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Report: New round of CBA meetings planned next week

Nov 4, 2012, 7:14 PM EDT

Fehr and Bettman AP

The NHL and NHLPA are expected to meet up in New York next week, although they reportedly won’t do so any sooner than Tuesday, RDS’ Renaud P. Lavoie reports.

The NHLPA will also hold a conference call at four pm ET on Monday, according to TSN’s Aaron Ward.

The latest round of formal negotiations follow a tumultuous weekend where the 2013 Winter Classic was canceled and postponed to 2014 on Friday, but Steve Fehr and Bill Daly held lengthy, informal talks on Saturday.

While there have been repeated reports about the two sides staying in touch via phone calls and e-mails, larger-scale discussions have been halted since the two sides hit an impasse on Oct. 18.

Some believe the new deadline for a CBA would fall around Nov. 23,* so a perceived increase in urgency is a welcome sight for anxious fans. It’s anyone’s guess just how much progress might be made, though.

* – Just a few days after the NBA came to its own CBA agreement in 2011, if you find parallels between the two processes.

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Daly said Saturday meeting “covered a lot of ground.”

Fehr agreed

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  1. habsman - Nov 4, 2012 at 7:28 PM

    Losing a couple of $100,000 paycheques can be a real motivator to make an agreement.

  2. hockinj25 - Nov 4, 2012 at 7:38 PM

    Things are looking good right now. Hopefully the talks this week keep the momentum going and we can end this thing soon.

  3. buffalo65 - Nov 4, 2012 at 8:02 PM

    Buffalo needs the cup, this is the year…get it done.

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:14 PM

      Maybe not this year friend, but I can see easily you Sabres getting back to the SC Final again before long. You guys sure came close in ’99 before that weirdo Hull “kicked” in the winning goal, etc. But your “coolest” team ever was the ’75 squad who went six games against The Mob. You guys would have won that, had it not been for Bernie Parent’s heroics. Anyway, today you’ve got the “3rd best” goalie in the league and so it’s a given that you’ll be back there soon enough ! :)

      1) Jonathan Quick
      2) Cory Schneider
      3) Ryan Miller
      4) Henrik Lundquist
      5) Carey Price

      28) Mikka Kiprusoff
      29) Roberto Luongo
      30) Ilya Bryzgalov

      • rodeoclowndc - Nov 5, 2012 at 9:29 AM

        You forgot 31) Steve Mason. Is it coincidental that he’s just one letter away from “Sieve” Mason?

  4. flyerguy73 - Nov 4, 2012 at 8:18 PM

    Hey buffalo65, put your crack pipe down. Buffalo will never see a cup while we are alive.

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:45 PM

      That depends on if Philly, Detroit, and New York want to jack around the small market teams and make this the MLB or NBA.

      • valoisvipers - Nov 5, 2012 at 9:22 AM

        Don’t lump the Wings owners and management styles in with likes Philly or Rangers. Detroit is a family and don’t sign players to crazy contracts. They draft well dispite consistently having late round picks and always get the most out players by giving thems roles and not asking them to go out there to score or be the hero.Can you name any bad signings or crazy offer sheets that the Wings have ever made?

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - Nov 6, 2012 at 1:39 AM

        The only one I could think of off the top of my head was Mike Modano and his 4 goals for the Wings.

        However, it is every bit fair to put the Wings in that category because it is know they offered Suter 105 million. Just because they haven’t signed anybody to a ridiculous contract doesn’t mean they haven’t tried.

        But yes, credit where credit it due, Holland sure finds the right draft picks. Something we are hoping for here in Minnesota. They early returns on Fletcher has been good.

  5. sportsfan69 - Nov 4, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    As long as the Fehrer is charge, there will not be a deal. If I was a veteran player or a fringe player, I would be very involved and vocal, sitting back and allowing others to dictate your livelihood is not something I would do. As union member, there is a tendency for certain groups, that are only looking out for themselves, not for the whole. God forbid, actually look out the betterment of the game of hockey.

    WE DON’T NEED ANOTHER MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL CBA. THE FANS LOSE.

  6. ducksk - Nov 4, 2012 at 8:35 PM

    Ill be watching NHL thanksgiving. Hope u all will be too.

    • antkowiak666 - Nov 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

      the only NHL you will be watching this Thanksgiving,must be last years game from your DVR.
      correct me if i’m wrong,but Thanksgiving happens in Nov. and the NHL cancelled ALL Nov. games.
      i will be watching the NHL on Dec. 1st!!

      • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:10 PM

        I’ll also be watching “live” NHL hockey on Thanksgiving, just like Ducksk and millions of others … and so will you Antkowiak, I guarantee it ! :) Anyway, what’s going to be really funny are all these fake “Entertainment Tonight” quitters here, who’ve been vowing to never watch another game ! It’s too bad for them, as I bet we’re going to see some pretty good hockey this year right out of the gate !

  7. comeonnowguys - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    Gee whiz, guys, don’t knock yourselves out on our account.

  8. tpa43 - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    I was a lifetime hockey fan, but I actually don’t even miss it anymore. I’m glad greed got in the way of any success the league could have had.

    • homelanddefense - Nov 5, 2012 at 11:37 AM

      I get a kick out of all these life long hockey fans that dont miss the game and wont be coming back….all while commenting on a HOCKEY website that they have to search out to see.

  9. njdevil30 - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:21 PM

    I love my hockey and i am a season ticket holder but lets be honest who cares anymore. How many times have we heard this already. My state just got destroyed by hurricane sandy and I have been busting my ass volunterring to help people who lost everything for no money and these children are arguing about whos gonna get richer… Theres something wrong with this world

  10. sjsharks66 - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:32 PM

    Here’s my question.
    If they reach a new CBA in the next few days, is it enough time to bring the winter classic back? I am only concerned because like everyone else, I don’t want wings and leafs next year. Nothing against the teams but I would like a different winter classic, instead of waiting 2 years.

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 9:44 PM

      That’s what I’ve also been wondering about ? However Id4joey said the other day that apparently a “recovery window” is still open, though not for more than a week or so ?

      Id4joey, are you able to elucidate on this ? …

      • id4joey - Nov 5, 2012 at 5:16 PM

        blom, hey! Unlike you I wasn’t able to predict a timeframe for the conclusion of this impasse. However, I analyze the interactions and reactions of both parties, plus use a bit of business sense from the player’s and owner’s perspective, and some insight based on my experience in the world of hockey to come up with my own conclusions.

        I believe the actions of the ownership are part of a well defined and orchestrated psychlogical plan to force the player’s hand. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Is the NHL ownership willing to loose a full season? Why not? They’ve done it before. Do players want to loose one year’s salary? Why would they? Never have in my lifetime. And those who were affected by 04/05 said it wasn’t worth it and 240 players never played another game in the NHL post 04/05 lockout. So, no.

        Canceling the 82 game season was the first power move demonstrated by the ownership. If that didn’t get the PA’s attention, then cancel the WC. How is that for a power move? Oh! But wait said the owners to GB. That’s a lot of money we could use if you can salvage the WC and get the deal that we want Ok said GB. Can we cancel the WC early enough to reinstate it if we have an agreement? Mr Ilitch, how would you like that? What is the latest drop dead date GB asked. Hmmm! Can you work with mid Nov?

        So, they use canceling the WC as leverage to put pressure on the PA, and give themselves and option to bring back the WC.

        Note: the names have been changed to protect the guilty.

      • blomfeld - Nov 5, 2012 at 9:29 PM

        Joey – this is freaky man because you do seriously think like me ! Anyway, that’s “exactly” what I’ve been wondering the past few days too ? Was last Friday November 2nd just an artificial date in terms of cancelling the WC, all in an effort to force the NHLPA’s hand ? As you know, I’ve had this case cracked from day one … :) And yet for the life of me, I still can’t get my head around Bettman & company losing the WC on their own volition ? … it simply doesn’t make sense ? But if there is indeed a “recovery window” still open as you’re suggesting, then I could see the brilliance behind such a move. Guess we’ll see soon enough here, one way or the other, eh ?

    • comeonnowguys - Nov 5, 2012 at 8:39 AM

      Hell, they could even have it the traditional week of the All-Star game. I’m not sure what logistics could be blocking it, but I’d much rather see the WC than the ASG.

  11. RubeGoldenrod - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    @sportsfan69 We DON’T need an MLB CBA? I’ll take record revenue and no lockouts/strikes for 18+ years, as well as CBA negotiations while games are being played, thanks. I want hockey!!!!!

  12. thedavesiknowiknow - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:08 PM

  13. thedavesiknowiknow - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:15 PM

  14. capsrockva - Nov 5, 2012 at 12:38 AM

    Just get the dam deal done please for the fans sake. on tuesday they are scheduled to meet. Lock them in the gd room till they get the deal done so the season is saved

    • id4joey - Nov 5, 2012 at 8:15 AM

      Don’t be surprised if a deal is announced as soon as Wednesday. If not by the end of this week. Things appear to be playing out as a fellow blogger (my other me, blomfeld) has been predicting. This me, id4joey has always believed there would be a season this year, and that the players were likely to take a small hit now as opposed to loosing a year’s salary.

  15. LoyalFan34yrsGoKings - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:30 AM

    Like I said… PLAY PUCK,

  16. id4joey - Nov 5, 2012 at 8:04 AM

    Ok. So, here is how i see this playing out. During the PA conference call Fehr will present the details of what he and Daly discussed. Tomorrow Fehr will present some refined points discussed during the con call with players, and from there the negotiations are on again.

  17. augsburg12 - Nov 5, 2012 at 1:41 PM

    Watching it I have been watching hockey AHL, OHL, there’s plenty of hockey to watch. I’ll not go an see one game live this year only on TV and so should everyone else. Send a message Don’t mess with hockey fans Even if we are the best in sports Stay away.

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