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Daly: Saturday’s marathon meeting “covered a lot of ground”

Nov 4, 2012, 10:00 AM EDT

Bill Daly AP

Yesterday’s meeting between Bill Daly and Steve Fehr in a secret location managed to stretch far into the night.

Chris Johnston of The Canadian Press heard from Daly about how things went down and found out things seemed to go well.

“We met on and off for most of the day and covered a lot of ground. We plan to meet again early in the week.”

Time to be cautiously optimistic here. If they’re discussing the most important issues, it’s clear they’re getting serious about how to divvy up revenue and figuring out a way to appease both sides.

Without getting any leaks (to this point) about what exactly they’re going over, you have to believe they’re buckling down and cutting out distractions (read: the inquisitive eyes of the media) to get this mess sorted out.

  1. mgp1219 - Nov 4, 2012 at 10:17 AM

    Sounds promising, but we’ve been down this road before. I’ve said it before, IF there is going to be any NHL hockey played this season, it won’t start befor mid-December.

    • antkowiak666 - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:59 PM

      why would they start mid-Dec!?!?i see them starting Dec. 1st!!

      • mgp1219 - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:46 PM

        Trust me on this one. Let’ just say I’ve heard from a reliable source.

      • antkowiak666 - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

        let me guess…your”reliable source”is blomfeld?!?

      • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 5:25 PM

        antkowiak666 – No, this man’s source is not me, as I am a source to no one ! And I’ll also have you know that I do not use sources myself ! Rather, my views are all “self-made” postulations using nothing more than “common sense” with perhaps a dash of God given “intuition” … nothing more friend and nothing less. As you know, I’ve maintained from the start that a “magical” agreement would be announced during the week of Nov 5 -10 and that the season would then commence by the US Thanksgiving holiday weekend … and we will now see about that in fairly short order.

      • antkowiak666 - Nov 4, 2012 at 5:53 PM

        your to much blomfeld….you crack me up.

      • mgp1219 - Nov 4, 2012 at 7:19 PM

        I said a reliable source.

  2. manchestermiracle - Nov 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    1) The two sides met (again) after a break;
    2) They talked (about the issues or maybe the college football games they watched);
    3) Maybe they made some progress, maybe not;
    4) They’ll meet again “soon;”
    5) Repeat 1 through 4 ad nauseum while clinging to the hope that the NHL actually plays some games this year.

    This story line is worse than having to sit through an endless loop of Gilligan’s Island reruns. At least we have Ginger and Mary Ann to ogle, unlike these two trolls.

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 5:29 PM

      “Stand down” from your despair friend ! …

  3. 13datsyuk13 - Nov 4, 2012 at 10:48 AM

    Do your jobs

    • manchestermiracle - Nov 5, 2012 at 9:15 AM

      That’s the problem, they are. The only way they managed to “cover a lot of ground” is if they took a walk together.

  4. murraychadwick - Nov 4, 2012 at 10:49 AM

    So, the question of the day……why the heck are they meeting now but not three weeks ago. Blows my mind that the day after the WC cancelation they decide to meet at length. Pisses me off even more.

    • stakex - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:26 PM

      Well the reality is that the Winter Classic wasn’t ever a big event both sides looked to save. Sure its the league big PR event every year and is a ratings bananza, but in terms of hard dollars… neither side really lost anything as a whole (Detroit and Toronto did, but thats it) with it being cancelled. Thus is was never really a tipping point.

      We are however getting to the point where the season could be canceled, and that would in fact hit both sides hard. Even a short 60 game season would be better for both sides then no season at all… which is why we are seeing both sides coming together now. Will a deal get done? Who knows…

      • ccous - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:38 PM

        This is true, and it shows how little they actually care about real fans.

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 5:32 PM

      “why the heck are they meeting now but not three weeks ago ?” …

      uhhh … because like maybe that’s the plan ?

  5. capesouth - Nov 4, 2012 at 10:52 AM

    The whole time, they should have been locking themselves in a room and figuring it out…not wasting months and months on these stalemates…a selfish approach.

  6. eyeh8goodell - Nov 4, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    You wanna know why things weren’t getting done weeks ago? Gary Bettman is the reason. Notice how he hasn’t been involved of late. It’s been all Fehr speaking with Daly, and lo and behold things are moving along. Maybe Gary finally realized his bully tactics only work when he’s dealing with an amateur on the other side of the table. And unfortunately, that’s the only way Bettman knows how to negotiate. Fehr kicked his ass 6 ways to Sunday and now Gary had to tap out.

    • habsman - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM

      Daly has been meeting with Steve Fehr, not Donald. And the only reason they are meeting is because the PA is folding like a deck of cards. The PA is coming to the table is because of pressure from the membership who just cashed their esgro cheques and realise there won’t be anything else until they get this settled. No tap out here, just a clear knock out for the owners.

      • eyeh8goodell - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:27 PM

        I’m sure you’d love to believe that. Players have already won. Bettman has been met with universal scorn and had to remove himself from the process, Winter classic gone (an owners event), the brand has lost 25% of its value to advertisers, and they’ve lost hundreds of millions while all the stars that choose to do so are still banking checks playing hockey elsewhere for other owners (free market baby!).

        Remember your scorn for the players, you don’t get to celebrate and be part of it when the PLAYERS on your team do well, but then you’re a Habs fan so not much chance of that anyway.

      • habsman - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:45 PM

        You are wrong. I hold the owners and players with equal contempt. The difference is that the players stupidly refused to negotiate a deal last summer. Instead, they tried to use the league schedule as leverage. And if your stance that the “brand” has lost 25% of its marketing value, then quess what, both sides have lost.

        But you opinion just mirrors that of the players. They called the leagues bluff and lost big time. They will never recoup lost salary in a limited career. The owners on the other hand will continue to own the franchises and pass them down from generation to generation long after this group of players have retired. So you can continue to support those wonderful unionized players who went over to Europe and took jobs away from other players. For me, I believe the owners were the lesser of two evils this time.

        (24)

      • eyeh8goodell - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:17 PM

        Well you’re certainly good at regurgitating the league’s talking points. The players will get the full value of thier contracts, regardless if the league’s advertising dollars. Funny, not even 2 weeks ago Bettman says it was thier best offer, and now here they are caving on the make whole. Lol, yeah they really “scored a knockout”. And you bet I’m on the players side. It was the owners running a THIRD lockout in a row. It was the owners throwing out huge deals they never had any intention of honoring. It was the owners gloating about having won the last lockout after getting nothing but concessions from the players and now here they are crying poor with exactly the system they wanted and gloated about.

        And please stop acting like you care about somebody’s job overseas. I doubt anybody is buying it. I think you’re just mad that players have options and aren’t at the mercy of thier “corporate masters”.

      • habsman - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:42 PM

        Wrong again. You’re the one who pointed out the players going overseas. I’m pointing out the hypocracy of unionized players taking other players jobs. Good union guys eh?

        And how are the players going to get full value regardless of league advertising money? You do realize that the owners and players will end up spliting revenues (HRR) 50-50 don’t you? If revenues are down, both sides lose.

        And yes it is a lockout. But that’s because the union forced the league to lock them out by refusing to negotiate before the season started. I think the owners are dicks. But I put most of the blame on the PA and the players. It appears to be a moot point anyway, the membership seems to have put pressure on your pals Steve and Donald to get back to the table. Should be over soon. Players don’t want to lose any more paycheques.

      • mgp1219 - Nov 4, 2012 at 2:55 PM

        habswoman ©, I guess it’s ok when all the Europen players come here and take jobs from Canadians and Americans, eh?

      • habsman - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:12 PM

        @mpg,

        Every player joins the NHLPA regardless of where they come from. Or do you believe that a European is less of a union guy when he joins the NHL? I don’t have a problem with Eurpoeans joining the NHL and joining the PA. But you cannot have it both ways.

  7. csilojohnson - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    Must be nice to be able to choose when you want to go to work, yet still be over paid idiots.

  8. greatminnesotasportsmind - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:02 AM

    If you start in Minnesota and head towards Chicago, go down to St. Louis over to Denver and back to Minnesota; you covered a lot of ground, but your back to where you started.

  9. rainyday56 - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:03 AM

    Bettman is brushing up his resume and pursuing other options one would hope.

    Tap out, that’s a good one. Maybe Dana White could use him.

  10. oldcat157 - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:18 AM

    Please don’t start until end of the Superbowl! Please! Gotta make sure you get the right deal.

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 5:01 PM

      Oldcat = Palin ?

      Give your head a shake man ! … you want us to wait 3 more months ?

  11. joeyashwi - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:44 AM

    So after the owners win this CBA by knockout (extortion), what is going to be Bettman’s excuse for his next lockout?

  12. banger78 - Nov 4, 2012 at 11:54 AM

    A secret location? Who were they expecting the Taliban!!!!!!!!

    • braddavery - Nov 4, 2012 at 6:07 PM

      No. Worse. The media.

    • valoisvipers - Nov 4, 2012 at 7:20 PM

      The secret location is Blomfeld’s basement.

  13. sportsfan69 - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    Where is Blomfeld comments or should we call him by his real name, Ernst Stavro Blofeld?

    Where are you hiding out? Have you placed the evil Spectre eye on the Fehr brothers? Then, maybe we”ll have a CBA completed.

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:04 PM

      “………………………………..”

  14. ermur22 - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:30 PM

    Who cares about the NHL anymore?????

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 6:28 PM

      “Who” Cares ?

      We the “real” fans care pal ! … and we don’t have any need for you fake “Entertainment Tonight” fans either ! … sometimes “less “is” more” and that applies to our NHL today in no uncertain way ! … by the way, if you don’t care then why are you even posting here ? … gotcha ! :)

  15. LoyalFan34yrsGoKings - Nov 4, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Let us pray. Come on PLAY PUCK,
    We had a miracle on Manchester indeed. Now how bout one that’s gonna save the season. for us real hockey fans really do care

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 1:06 PM

      “Let us Pray” indeed friend …

  16. thedavesiknowiknow - Nov 4, 2012 at 3:01 PM

  17. proudliberal85392 - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:30 PM

    Amen, brother blomfeld! Let’s get this done!

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:54 PM

      Proudliberal … “stand by” friend, as things are now a happening ! :)

  18. id4joey - Nov 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    blomfeld: who am I?

    id4joey: you are blomfeld.

    blomfeld: who are you?

    id4joey. I’m blomfeld.

    blomfeld: what? Are we the same person?

    id4joey: Yep! I’m actually the much wiser and older you. I’m from the future.

    blomfeld: why are you here?

    Id4joey: to watch over you while others on PHT blast you about your crazy conspiracy theory. You’re not listening to me. Yes! There will be hockey this season, but, no. It wasn’t a conspiracy. I found out from a friend on PHT.

    blomfeld: who is this friend you speak of?

    id4joey: Joey. Good guy. Bloody intelligent person. I use this alias as a tribute to him. Well! Got to go now.

    blomfeld: why?

    id4joey: Our beloved Kings won their 4 Stanley Cup, and Joey and me are going to the rally. BTW, Elvis is alive and they found Jimmy Hoffa buried in cement. Oh! Crosby is now NHL commissioner and the NHLPA union director is Ed Snider III.

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 6:01 PM

      Our Beloved Kings Win Their 4th Stanley Cup !
      —————————————————————

      Holy crap friends ! What an absolutely “fantastic” future we have laying ahead, eh ? :)

      Joey – While I’m laughing my head off here, it’s nonetheless occurring to me that our “identity fraud” accusers may now go on the warpath ? Pretty soon no one is going to know who anyone “really” is here at PHT ? Id4joey could be Blomfeld ? .. who could be Hockyflow33 ? .. who could be Ducksk ? .. who could be Sportsfan ? .. who could be Manchestermiracle ? .. etc ? In fact, I’ve really wondered about this new guy “Oldcat” and who he might really be ? I do fear that we could all end up in the nut house at some point, if people don’t start to come clean here …

      ps seriously: my conspiracy theory is actually nothing more than the assertion that Bettman has an agenda in his head which he’s determined to act out “come hell or high water” … and I believe that he’s doing this with the backing of several “key” power owners … the elimination of the first part of the season is no doubt one of the goals, as is the creation of a new CBA which will essentially equate to a “diktat” as far as the players are concerned … what I still don’t get however, is the accepted loss of the Winter Classic ? … unless of course, it’s still salvageable as you mentioned the other day ? … guess we’ll see eh ? :)

  19. id4joey - Nov 4, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Ok. I’m not posting as id4joey because blomfeld is on a role, and we’re fighting for the keyboard. I just had time for this one post because he went for a quick snack. Here he comes. Gotta go.

  20. sportsfan69 - Nov 4, 2012 at 7:10 PM

    Ernst Stavro Blofeld,

    Or should I call you Blomfeld…..Get Bond and Kill him.

    You got any Romney quotes, he’s as bad as Bush.

    • blomfeld - Nov 4, 2012 at 8:55 PM

      Sportsfan69 – I’ll have you know friend, that I neither resemble Donald Pleasance or own any Safari suits ! … though I did have a cat a few years back … :)

      With your election coming in < 48 hours now, it's sure going to be interesting to see what happens, eh ? … maybe even more interesting than the NHL lockout talks this week ? Just last month I wouldn't have given Romney the slightest of chances, yet today he's apparently in a dead heat with Obama ? Personally I hope you guys re-elect Obama, even though I know that both men love their country and that they only want what's best for it … the same goes for most voters too, regardless of their party affiliation. Anyway, your elections are the biggest of them all, as everyone around the world is affected one way or the other, directly or indirectly …

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