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Report: Lecavalier-to-Nashville deal falls through

Jun 30, 2014, 7:33 PM EDT

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Earlier today, Brough wrote about the pressure Nashville GM David Poile’s under to land a top center.

Today, Poile reportedly came close to pulling it off — in the form of Philadelphia’s Vincent Lecavalier.

From CSN Philly:

On Monday, the Flyers nearly had a deal with Nashville that would have seen the Predators take Lecavalier’s $4.5 million salary off the Flyers’ hands.

What — if anything — the Flyers would have got in returns remains muddled, but in the end the deal fell apart.

According to a league source, the Preds were willing to take the full cap hit for two of Lecavalier’s remaining four years but not the entire contract.

Another league source said Flyers general manager Ron Hextall spent most of Monday trying to find a deal for Lecavalier.

Lecavalier, 34, has been on the block for a while — TSN reported before to the draft that Philly granted permission for his agent, Kent Hughes, to find a trade partner prior to July 1. That date’s a key one as it’s when the Flyers owe Lecavalier a $2 million bonus, one they’d obviously prefer not to pay if they plan to part ways with the ex-Lightning captain this summer.

And parting ways seems like it’s going to happen.

Things have been slowly building up to this point — Lecavalier, signed under the pretense he’d be a good fit in Peter Laviolette’s offensively-inclined system, struggled under Craig Berube and was demoted to the fourth line late in the season, which prompted this:

Following the Flyers’ opening-round loss to the Rangers, Lecavalier admitted he had a tough first season in Philadelphia and the Flyers’ brass acknowledged they expected more from him next year.

Now, that script seems to be flipped. With Lecavalier set to earn $6 million in salary next season (and another $2M via bonus, as mentioned above), it sounds as though the organization simply wants to get out from under a deal that carries a $4.5 million annual cap hit until 2018.

It’s those numbers, though, that seem to have torpedoed a deal with the Preds. Though they’re borderline desperate to add an offensively-minded center — especially after Jason Spezza rebuffed their advances over the weekend — the Preds clearly had a tough time stomaching all of Lecavalier’s cap hit and salary…and it’s hard to blame them, especially following a year in which Vinny had just 37 points in 69 games with a minus-16 rating.

  1. deathbyspl - Jun 30, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    Philly probably asked for Weber at the last minute

  2. leepetertk - Jun 30, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    If you’re nashville, you are already paying front-loaded money to Shea Weber thanks to Philadelphia. Taking Lecavalier now, well you will be paying another years’ worth of front-loaded money thanks to Philadelphia. Funny how this is playing out again.

  3. WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Jun 30, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    Take on 2 full years of salary and it fell through? WOW, get rid of this guy asap

  4. alicesrightfootesq - Jun 30, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    He’ll be a Panther tomorrow.

  5. sjsharks66 - Jun 30, 2014 at 8:08 PM

    So Nashville’s answer to a top center was Vinny? Did they not pay attention to what happened this year to the exact player they tried to land in Philly?

    • endusersolutions2013 - Jun 30, 2014 at 10:04 PM

      But don’t the Preds now have th coach Vinny thought he’d play for?

  6. bencia823 - Jun 30, 2014 at 8:18 PM

    They should just sign James Neal’s old center, Brad Richards

  7. jpat2424 - Jun 30, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    Stupid by philly to not take the deal.

  8. killerpgh - Jun 30, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    “According to a league source, the Preds were willing to take the full cap hit for two of Lecavalier’s remaining four years but not the entire contract.”

    Is that even legal to take the cap hit for half the remaining years? The CBA states – “The retained percentage cannot be altered from year to year” but I guess there is 2 ways to interrupt that. 1) it must the cap hit must remain exactly the same though out. 2) retaining the exact same cap hit for part of the remaining years and none of the cap hit the rest of the years isn’t considered “altering from year to year”.

    • 19to77 - Jun 30, 2014 at 8:36 PM

      “According to a league source, the Preds were willing to take the full cap hit for two of Lecavalier’s remaining four years but not the entire contract.”

      Uh, Halford, what does that actually mean? I’m interpreting it as “Nashville was willing to take up to 50% of the contract value, but no more.” but the way it’s phrased implies that they’d take the full cap hit for two years and none for the other two. Which I’m sure they can’t actually do.

  9. icelovinbrotha215 - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:14 PM

    Ah. I thought Hexy would’ve been able to rid himself of yet another mistake contract-wise.

  10. officialgame - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:37 PM

    It means the Preds take the hit on the cap but want the Flyers to pay half his salary(the real money). Is that hard to understand.

    • blackandorangeforlife - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:51 PM

      “According to a league source, the Preds were willing to take the full cap hit for two of Lecavalier’s remaining four years but not the entire contract.”

    • rmccleary97 - Jun 30, 2014 at 11:55 PM

      If the Flyers are paying half his salary, they automatically retain half the cap hit. You can’t say “if you’ll pay part of the salary, we’ll take the full cap hit.”

    • WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:35 AM

      It’s “hard to understand” by at least one person on this blog……

  11. blackandorangeforlife - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    As a Flyers fan i would rather keep Vinny…For now……wait it out until someone gets hurt and needs him more than they do now (of course Vinny could get hurt)……And if it’s the Preds make them take the full hit plus a draft pick….As of right now the Flyers have a better 4th line center (Vinny) then the Preds have a top line center!

    • WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Jul 1, 2014 at 6:36 AM

      You don’t quite grasp the salary cap concept do you?

      • ibieiniid - Jul 1, 2014 at 8:43 AM

        This comment reminded me of the Federal Reserve bit.

  12. phillyphanatic77 - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:45 PM

    I truly believe that once that $2million dollar bonus is paid out by the Flyers (by July 2nd) then Lecavalier will be on the move. A team may be willing to accept that contract but not by starting out with a bonus for a declining player. I personally believe that’s the biggest holdup here.

    If a team, such as Nashville, misses out on Spezza, Thornton, and Stastny, then Lecavalier could be a consolation prize (with certain stipulations). The Flyers are most likely going to need to eat about 500K-1mil per year for atleast two seasons for any franchise to accept, but I believe Snider and Hextall would be willing to do that. And it’s not as if Vinny’s decline has been as bad as Briere’s… if this guy gets to play center (above the 4th line) he still has 25-goal+50-60pt potential, especially next to someone like Neal.

    And if the Flyers can move out Vinny (coupled with Pronger’s LTIR exception) they should be able to fill out the roster with some quality. The one rumor I loved was the Lecavalier for Upshall one… not only does Philly save money but they gain a grittier, more mobile forward who can still notch 20 goals AND (most importantly) his deal is up after next season. If that’s on the table after July 2nd idk how Hextall says no.

  13. broadstreetbeatdown - Jun 30, 2014 at 9:50 PM

    Yeah sounds like this is about cap hit and not salary. Im sure the Flyers would have no problem eating part of Vinny’s salary. its the cap hit they didn’t want. The whole point of trading Vinny is to recapture his cap hit.

  14. rsmaggiemae - Jun 30, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    There is no way Stasny would go to Nashville
    heard a rumor out of Dallas that they are really, really really going after him and they have the cap space to pay him and they want him on the line with Seguin and McGinn
    so we will have to wait to see if this rumor comes true tomorrow

    Nashville really lacks offensive and cant score goals… thats thier main issuue…
    I dont know if Neal will be a huge factor for them, as I really didnt understand that trade at all.

  15. letsgolightning - Jun 30, 2014 at 10:26 PM

    It’s nice to hear about a different team trying to get rid of Vinny’s overvalued contract.

  16. desertfan - Jun 30, 2014 at 11:38 PM

    Nucks agree to take on two years!!

  17. pone27 - Jul 1, 2014 at 1:55 AM

    This whole thread has been a laugh…

    Pretty simple common knowledge here, not tough to work out Flyers fans:

    Flyers overpaid for Vinny (everyone knew that from the get go.)

    Halford is not a lawyer, he is a columnist. Stop being grammar police/make excuses for the Vinny deal. If you can go “outside the box” for a sec, you would realize Nashville wanted Philly to retain half his salary. Philly is trying to rip teams off with his bloated contract, and teams are not budging.

    Like usual, the Flyers over pay for a mid 30s guy who is a monstrous gamble, and they fail.

    They must bank on the bottom feeder teams (NYI, FLA, etc.) who have the cap room to be willing to move nothing and take on his contract.

    IMO, Philly is screwed.

  18. kastout11 - Jul 1, 2014 at 10:33 AM

    Unfortunately, Philly will have the 4.5M cap hit annually for probably the life of the contract. Vinny is a guy who, when healthy, can score and is really gifted offensively. I think he was banged up the entire 2013-14 season and hopefully he is healthier in 14-15. If he is healthy, even though 4.5M is a ton for a fourth line center, I think we will see a much more effective Vinny. He knows he stunk up the place this past season.

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