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Flyers brass wants more from Lecavalier next season

May 3, 2014, 2:04 PM EDT

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It was a trying first season in Philadelphia for Vincent Lecavalier.

He missed 13 games with injury and went through the motions of adapting to a new team. While he finished the season with 20 goals, Flyers GM Paul Holmgren and owner Ed Snider both expressed hope he’ll pick things up next season as Tim Panaccio of shares.

He’s a good hockey player,” Snider said. “He got 20 goals with all the problems … he had a problem this year, but it’s got to be solved by next year.”

Holmgren said he was “disappointed”  for, not in, Lecavalier for how things went this season and said, “a lot of things went against him.”

The Flyers signed Lecavalier to a five-year, $22.5 million deal last summer after the former Tampa Bay Lightning captain was bought out by the team.

At 34 years old, Lecavalier’s best seasons are likely behind him and if there’s something for the Flyers to be nervous about, it’s his health. The last time he played a full season was 2009-10. If his health can get settled down, perhaps he can have a stronger season in 2014-15.

  1. gbart22 - May 3, 2014 at 2:16 PM

    Another useless story. If they signed him thinking they were getting a 60-80 pt player he isn’t that anymore and anyone looking in could have called and said that. He might throw up a good season and get 60 pts again but at this point I think you’re just hoping for 20 goals and somewhere in the range of 40-50 pts which is still really good especially if he’s a depth player. this is more people looking at his name and making judgements off that like with heatley. He’s not a 40 goal guy anymore but because of his name he gets put under more scrutiny and higher expectations. He’s a third liner now who if he’s having a good year can maybe put up 10-25 goals. A depth forward but someone will sign him because of his name and expect more.

    • flyerspsu - May 3, 2014 at 4:58 PM

      the problem with him being a depth player is that he cant skate or play defense, he cant play on the teams 3rd line b/c thats the shutdown line, he doesnt seem to add enough offensively to be on the top 2 scoring lines, its not necessarily that he isnt scoring as much as they would like, i think its more he doesnt fit anywhere and seems to bring down every line except the 4th

    • biasedhomer - May 3, 2014 at 5:32 PM

      I don’t think the problem is points its finding out where he belongs on this team. They have a log jam at center, they tried him everywhere and still couldn’t get him going.

  2. flyboystransport - May 3, 2014 at 2:20 PM

    Not sure berube is a fan of his. I would say if schenn is moved it’s not a definite that lecavlier becomes the 2nd line center….i think raffl gets the shot 1st

    • flyerspsu - May 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM

      the problem is i dont think Lecavalier, raffl, couturier or laughton are 2nd line centers, Lecavalier is way past his prime and skates like hes 45 years old and the other 3 are good skilled 2 way players but dont seem to add enough offensively to be a 2nd line center

      schenn in 2-3 years seems like the best option for 2nd line center with his offense and upside, id be willing to move schenn but it would have be for a bona fide dman like Shattenkirk but that would take more than schenn

      • flyboystransport - May 3, 2014 at 8:22 PM

        Schenns right now the best option and had a good season but I think he’s peaked which means he has to be moved now. Couture would fit if given more responsibility but that’s hoping laughton can be a viable 3rd line replacement

  3. flyerspsu - May 3, 2014 at 2:23 PM

    for every great move Holmgren makes he makes one just as bad, Lecavalier signed for another 4 years … id move him for a bag of pucks if I could but he has a no trade clause so that isnt even a possibility, the team would be far better off w/ Hartnell and Lecavalier moved, but both are signed long term w/ NTCs, not sure how the Flyers management is going to get around that to be able to build a viable forward core that has enough speed, skill and hockey IQ to contend

  4. Wineshard - May 3, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    Maybe they were expecting hockey’s version of Michael Jordan?

  5. dubblelznhell - May 3, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    Lecavalier is showing age. But if you look at his career as a whole, season by season, he’s always been an inconsistent player in terms of point production.

  6. alicesrightfootesq - May 3, 2014 at 3:09 PM

    20 goals is good for an aging center who isn’t half the player he was.

    • flyerspsu - May 3, 2014 at 3:59 PM

      it seems good but if you watched him the whole season it really didnt look good, the problem is with some of these aging offensive threats is that some are poor defensively but were always able to make up for that w/ their offensive play but now that their offensive production has gone down so much while their defensive play is still lacking you have ask yourself the question; are they really doing more good than harm? I got to say no for Lecavalier, he had the worse +/- of the team and is a career -133, the Flyers had the same problem w/ Briere and were able to buy him out last year, im not sure how they can get rid of Lecavalier with his no trade clause

  7. fortarnold - May 3, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    I think Holmgren is often unfairly criticized. His good moves by far outweigh the bad ones. I just think he has made three moves that will haunt him- trading JVR for L. Schenn, and signing Hartnell and Lecavalier for as long as he did with no trade clauses. I really hope Vinny’s down year was due to the back injury and shift away from center. When he moved back to center on the fourth line, he was definitely more productive. At times he showed some glimpses do the skill that made him a superstar. It will be sad day in a couple of years when Hartnell and Vinny are earning 10M+ combined as permanent fourth liners.

  8. smarshall3789 - May 3, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    Bottom line you don’t pay someone 4 million dollars a year to be a role player! Stupid signing that’s the thing with the flyers always gotta get the top “name” instead of re building the right way! How about this you wanna trade for stars and sign stars make sure they are under 27! Flyers will never win a cup till their gm stop throwing money around to older washed up players like it’s candy!

  9. billyblackout - May 3, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    Then they need a time machine.

  10. phillyphannnn83 - May 4, 2014 at 2:01 AM

    I don’t understand why people continuously talk negatively about the offense, it wasn’t the problem! The Flyers were 8th in the league in scoring. They were 20th in goals allowed! Homer needs to stop worrying about scoring and start focusing on the damn defense! It’s been abysmal for as long as I can remember!

  11. wingz101 - May 4, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    Funny to complain about a guy getting 20 goals especially since that could be the highwater mark for him. He just looks so slow now. It was a nutty deal when they offered it to him but it may look disastrous by the end of next year if he continues his steady decline.

  12. whammy71 - May 4, 2014 at 10:34 AM

    I see yinz are enjoying your offseason. How’s the golf game?

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