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Columnist doesn’t think decertification would be worth “all-around chaos”

Nov 25, 2012, 10:00 PM EDT

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A lot has been made about the NHLPA following the NBA and NFL lockout patterns by decertifying the union, but CSNPhilly.com’s Tim Panaccio believes it wouldn’t be worth the considerable risk.

The advantages of going this route is … well, all-around chaos, that could seemingly result in every player becoming immediate unrestricted free agents; players could sue the league for collusion, damages and back wages to honor existing contracts, etc.
 
All of this is a minefield where some things could occur and others not yet imagined might appear, as well, as the process goes from the state to the federal levels.
 
It’s absurd. It’s unrealistic. And it would be wasting valuable time heading on a detour in the talks rather than sticking with the process and getting a deal done.

Of course, one could counter that the two sides aren’t really making the most of the time at hand, anyway; Sunday’s update is the usual “they spoke but didn’t set up an official meeting” spiel.

Perhaps that’s why the NHLPA side is pondering the radical move of decertification while onlookers wonder if the owners need “a hero” to emerge and prompt some compromises.

Related:

Bill Daly says decertification “would likely lead to the end of the season”

Ryan Miller thinks NHLPA should decertify

Specter of decertification looms over lockout

Steve Nash’s agent thinks the union should have started the process months ago

  1. valoisvipers - Nov 25, 2012 at 11:21 PM

    They say…The advantages of going this route is … well, all-around chaos, that could seemingly result in every player becoming immediate unrestricted free agents; players could sue the league for collusion, damages and back wages to honor existing contracts, etc.
    Now if they have to honor contracts then how would they be immediate free agents if they are under the contract that are enforcing the owners to honor. Two way street those contracts, both parties signed, both are on the same hook.

  2. pondhockeyallstar - Nov 26, 2012 at 12:04 AM

    it was just stating that there are a multitude of routes that the players could take. not that everything that they listed would happen all in the same time. basically saying that decertifing would most likely be a total gong show and a sh$t show of chaos. i hope they get something figured out soon, but i really don’t have any faith that it will. before thanksgiving i was mad but still thought they’d save something of a season, but i dont think so now. gary and the owners have showed nary a hint of forward thinking, so there’s no reason to believe they’ll do anything other than can the season. i truly believe its up to the players, if they want to play they’ll bend even more and we’ll have a season. it would totally not surprise me to see the players go “okay gary we’ll bend and sign your deal” only to have him go “AH HA!!!! now that you agreed to that i’m gonna want even more!!!!!” this is his league now. jacobs carries alot of weight, but if gary thought this was bad for hockey he wouldn’t do it. thats why he thinks this is the only way that they nhl can go and he’ll ride this sinking ship all the way downnnnnn….

  3. manchestermiracle - Nov 26, 2012 at 12:49 AM

    “It’s absurd. It’s unrealistic. And it would be wasting valuable time heading on a detour in the talks rather than sticking with the process and getting a deal done.”

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing the same way and expecting different results. Once you’re on the back side of the season with no deal in sight, at what point do you decided on a different strategy? De-certification, or at least the legitimate threat, may be exactly what is needed to get certain people off their asses.

    Even if Daly decides to stand pat, and the players go ahead and vote to de-certify, losing the season would allow a complete reworking of a dysfunctional system. Whatever it is they’re doing right now sure as hell isn’t working and the end result, a lost season, will be the same.

  4. ron05342 - Nov 26, 2012 at 1:44 AM

    It’s a good thing Mr. Pannaccio isn’t an attorney.

    A contract is still a contract, union or no union. Unless you got a senile old judge on a federal bench (USA or Canada), every player is not going to be declared as a UFO.

    • ron05342 - Nov 26, 2012 at 1:44 AM

      Ha ha, very late at night. UFA.

  5. blomfelb - Nov 26, 2012 at 1:54 AM

    CHAOS! And not “just” the bumbling, plucky bad “guys” from Get Smart! You will “all” “soon” “be” “witness” to the reality I have long predicted from the very “beginning” of this “circus” through my many varying opinions on what will happen that are “dictated” by the “news” of “the” “day”. The glory “of” “being” “me” is that “you” can “never” be “wrong” when you “constantly” “change” your “opinions” “and” “predictions” and “hope” that “no” “one” besides “my” “comrade” “joey” pay “attention”. I exist in the “real” “world” and assure you “I” am not the “passive” type. “I” am a “fighter” that “never” backs “down” from a challenge. Unless “of” course this “challenge” is “coming” from an “actual” “human” “being” then of course “I” piss “my” pants and spend “hours” crying in “my” bathroom eating “peanut” butter by the “handful” while “admiring” how “I” look in my deceased “mother”‘s lipstick. What’s that mother? Should I freeze dry the coffee? Molest the chipmunks? Mother! That’s insane! You know very well I already did that Friday!

    Now if you’ll “excuse” me, I need to get “back” to some certain videos I am “watching”. They involve “underage” people doing certain “acts” that would be considered “disturbing” and “inappropriate” for their “age”.
    :-)

    • blomfelb - Nov 26, 2012 at 2:13 AM

      SWEARING you silly billies! The kids are swearing.

    • blomfelb - Nov 26, 2012 at 2:15 AM

      Irrelevant? Inane? BUGGERS!

    • blomfelb - Nov 26, 2012 at 2:18 AM

      I AM NOT A SAD CRAZY OLD MAN! I WAS DOING THINGS WHILE YOU “CHILDREN” WERE TWINKLES IN YOUR FATHER’S EYE!

      %)

  6. blomfelb - Nov 26, 2012 at 2:21 AM

    I do NOT like being reminded of the fact that I’m sad & lonely! My multiple comment accounts are more friends than you losers “ever” had!
    :-(

    • valoisvipers - Nov 26, 2012 at 1:45 PM

      SPAM JUNKIE ALERT

  7. id4joey - Nov 26, 2012 at 8:01 AM

    blomfeld, you’re f en hilarious and crack me up. Too bad most here are too full of themselves to enjoy your sense of humor. Most commenters here are offended by this lockout because they are taking it personally. They suffer from NPD.

  8. trick9 - Nov 26, 2012 at 8:37 AM

    ”Waste of valuable time”

    Time is clearly way too valuable when the two sides aren’t even currently negotiating.

  9. sportsfan69 - Nov 26, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Blomfeld,

    Thanks for the entertainment The decertification talk that the players are expressing right now is just another example of the ignorance of the players.

    Yeah, you can do anything you want. Once they decertify the union, you can kiss the season goodbye and next year the league will field only 24 teams. Thus, eliminating about 6 teams and appropriately 160 player jobs.

    Is that a victory?

    Stupidity

  10. comeonnowguys - Nov 26, 2012 at 10:21 AM

    It’s barely worth the effort anymore to even express what’s turning from anger to ambivalence.

    Thanks, Gary, for being the worst commissioner in sports.

    Thanks, Donnie, for being the guy that worked non-stop in an effort to ruin two sports.

    Thanks, players, for hiring that jag in the first place. Enjoy your future stardom on “The Ocho.” That is, when equestrian sports aren’t in season.

  11. eyeh8goodell - Nov 26, 2012 at 10:58 AM

    The NFLPA had a CBA signed 22 days after they decertified. It can be worth it.

    I hope they decertify just to cause more headaches for Bettman and the owners. I’m already pulling for the season to be cancelled. It’s tainted at this point anyway with all the ugliness. But might as well make the most of it by humiliating Bettman and destroying his reputation even more.

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