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Fehr thinks Hamrlik’s ability to criticize separates players from owners

Nov 24, 2012, 9:50 PM EDT

Donald Fehr: AP

Roman Hamrlik hasn’t been particularly kind to NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr lately. Among other things, he argued that Fehr should be ousted if the 2012-13 campaign is lost.

Hamrlik’s comments sparked a firestorm and have been countered by several players.

Still, Fehr isn’t swinging back or suggesting that Hamrlik should back down. Instead, he’s using Hamrlik’s comments as an example of one of the ways he thinks the union is different from the NHL.

“We don’t believe in censoring anybody,” Fehr said, according to Newsday’s Steve Zipay.

Comments like Hamrlik’s don’t just contrast the chorus of players vocalizing their support of Fehr, in a way, they validate that praise. After all, if Hamrlik — and Michal Neuvirth for that matter — feel comfortable deviating harshly from the union’s position in a very public way, then it suggests that those that voice their support for the union are being equally genuine.

Of course, we can’t truly know exactly how much support the union leadership has or if Hamrlik and Neuvirth are vocalizing feelings that other, still silent players share. At the end of the day, the hope is that the lockout will end soon and render questions like that moot.

  1. ron05342 - Nov 24, 2012 at 10:05 PM

    So what?

    As Bettman said, “PR is pointless.” This guy is just a media whore.

    Instead of playing to the media, why don’t you stay at the negotiating table for something more than, say, 5 minute, Fehr?

    • ib4joey - Nov 25, 2012 at 12:22 AM

      agree ron and thnks you smart like joey on nhl labors. glad we thinks same things & have same brains & can be friends.

      • blomfeld - Nov 25, 2012 at 2:26 AM

        *** SPAM ALERT ! ***

    • blomfeld - Nov 25, 2012 at 12:34 AM

      Why Ron ? … because he’s doing this for his love of money, not his love for hockey … it’s as simple as that and there-in lies the problem … anyway, CBC is replaying the Red Army vs Flyers game right now (Jan 11th, 1976) and the infamous brawl is about to happen ! … gotta go man ! :)

      GO LOCKOUT !!!!

      • woodstakes - Nov 25, 2012 at 12:56 AM

        Yup.. and Bettman’s doing this for free right?? The only differences are, Bettmans been getting a check every single month… Fehr, hasn’t gotten one since July… Bettmans checks at the end of the year will equal $8 Million (would rank him in the top 5 of players) and Fehr’s will be no where near that. What they both have I will agree with you guys on is… Neither of them do it for “Hockey” they BOTH do it for money. The only difference from this lockout and the last is Fehr’s as big an ass as Bettman!

      • windmiller4 - Nov 25, 2012 at 12:59 AM

        Anybody who says go lockout (even if it is in jest) isn’t a true hockey fan. Come on Blomfeld, for how great of a hockey fan you supposedly are you should be chomping at the bit for the season to start

      • blomfeld - Nov 25, 2012 at 2:17 AM

        Woodstakes – everyone here knows that they’re both money-grubbing jackasses !

        Windmill – that’s exactly what I hate about this fake “e” communication crap ! … it’s completely void of all “non-verbal” communication, which I’ll have you know constitutes about 90% of human communication … if we were talking in person, then I “guarantee” that you’d be laughing your head off with most of my crap ! :) … anyway, “of course” I want hockey back, perhaps more than most here at this website ? … I hate what’s happening right now and I’m hurting in no uncertain terms … nonetheless, there’s no way that I’m ever going to turn into one of these “Joe Serious” guys … not here at something like PHT man …

        ps: come to think of it, I don’t believe I’ve ever offered you an Elvis video ? …

      • valoisvipers - Nov 25, 2012 at 9:56 AM

        Dam I have been waiting for this game since the start of the rerun games and wouldn`t you know it I missed the first period.Suck Bang Blow to that.I remember it was like they were poking Hound Dog Kelly with sticks to rile him up and then let him loose on the ice. He was a relentless beast. One of my best hockey memories.
        Windmiller4 Don`t go there, just don`t! There are no better fans of the game we love than Blomfeld. He sir, is a REAL fan of the game and right now his Kings rule.

      • blomfeld - Nov 25, 2012 at 2:35 PM

        Valoisvipers – thanks man ! :) … yeah, it was fun watching that “Flyers vs Red Army” game yesterday, however I also missed the famous “they’re going home” moment which happened in the first period … I always thought it was in the third ? … funny how the old memory can play tricks at time eh ? .. anyway, the absolute best game of that series was by far the New Years Eve game, eleven nights prior at the Montreal Forum … it was only because of Tretiak’s heroics that those Flying Frenchmen didn’t get into double digits ! :)

      • valoisvipers - Nov 25, 2012 at 3:54 PM

        Blomfeld I was at that New Years eve game and yes Tretiak was a stud in net for sure and at the other end of the ice Dryden looked like a frozen stick man. The only time in my life I ever wanted the Habs to win a game and it was not to be. The Flying Frenchmen were flying and the Old Forum was buzzing with intense energy, The Legal Eagle was booed loudly before the game. Goodtimes for everyone that night. Yes you are totally correct it could have and should have been a double digit rout by the Habs and I tip my hat to Tretiak.

  2. thedavesiknowiknow - Nov 24, 2012 at 10:29 PM

  3. daburghdabest - Nov 24, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Of course that ability will never be given to the owners, because Bettman, Daly & Jacobs don’t want to have it public how a minority of owners are pushing for this lockout while the majority were perfectly fine the way things were. I don’t know why they even bother trying to pretend everyone doesn’t know that Gary had it set up so he only needed 8 votes to pull this garbage, & he controls one of them since the league still owns The Coyotes.

    • blomfeld - Nov 25, 2012 at 2:24 AM

      “to pull this garbage” …

      interesting friend ? … aren’t you one of the guys who’s tried to nail me to the cross for suggesting that Bettman wanted this BS from day one ? … :|

      • daburghdabest - Nov 25, 2012 at 10:56 AM

        Your biggest delusion is the one where you think anyone gives a flying f*** what you think or say.

  4. travishenryskid - Nov 25, 2012 at 1:43 AM

    Best sport in the world. Worst league in the world.

    • ratflop - Nov 25, 2012 at 8:37 AM

      That sums it up nicely. I don’t know enough about decertification, but there are some that think that it would blowup the NHL as we know it and force a massive reconstruction of the league – something that is long overdue. Kills the season and maybe two, but could be well worth it if we get competent leadership out of it.

      Conversely, we could use a WHA start-up right about now.

  5. id4joey - Nov 25, 2012 at 3:19 AM

    daburghdabest, it has been publicly known for long time that Bettman only needs 8 votes.

    So who is negotiating? A collection of losers who need a new deal because, during a period of unprecedented growth in the NHL, they can’t figure out a way to run a business.

    Boston’s Jeremy Jacobs, Calgary’s Murray Edwards, Washington’s Ted Leonsis and Minnesota’s Craig Leipold were in the room this month when the NHL took all of 10 minutes to reject a proposal from the NHL Players’ Association.

    Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Hickey+proves+rich+people+different/7602720/story.html#ixzz2DDivj3G8

    woodstakes, it has been reported that Daly, Bettman, and Fehr are not being paid during the lockout.

    • daburghdabest - Nov 25, 2012 at 11:01 AM

      It’s public knowledge, that doesn’t mean it’s publicly known as clearly evidenced by the gallery of peons that gather here to loudly display how little they know about the situation.

      • blomfeld - Nov 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM

        Your biggest delusion is the one where you think anyone gives a flying f*** what you think or say.

      • id4joey - Nov 25, 2012 at 1:10 PM

        daburghdabest, Yeah! People on PHT don’t get it, but you wrote the following; “Bettman, Daly & Jacobs don’t want to have it public how a minority of owners are pushing for this lockout while the majority were perfectly fine the way things were”. I mean this has been reported by many, which is why I indicated that it was publicly known.

      • daburghdabest - Nov 25, 2012 at 1:32 PM

        daburghdabest – Nov 25, 2012 at 10:56 AM
        Your biggest delusion is the one where you think anyone gives a flying f*** what you think or say.

        blomfeld – Nov 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM
        Your biggest delusion is the one where you think anyone gives a flying f*** what you think or say.

        Well you copy & pasted what I said, so clearly YOU do.

      • daburghdabest - Nov 25, 2012 at 1:40 PM

        id4joey – Nov 25, 2012 at 1:10 PM
        daburghdabest, Yeah! People on PHT don’t get it, but you wrote the following; “Bettman, Daly & Jacobs don’t want to have it public how a minority of owners are pushing for this lockout while the majority were perfectly fine the way things were”. I mean this has been reported by many, which is why I indicated that it was publicly known.

        Gotcha, fair enough. I meant “known to the public” more in that the NHL won’t acknowledge the idea that the owners aren’t fully united in this. It’s definitely a crappily kept secret on their part.

      • id4joey - Nov 25, 2012 at 1:54 PM

        Yes! Got it! You are absolutely correct about that.

  6. onbucky96 - Nov 25, 2012 at 5:48 AM

    Fehr is doing what he’s always done, keeping a professionsl sports league shut down. Its his M.O., not going 2 change. Why the players didn’t see this when they hired the d.b., I have no idea. Still, its not too late to save some of the season, FIRE FEHR, FIRE FEHR, FIRE FEHR…

    • daburghdabest - Nov 25, 2012 at 11:04 AM

      Yeah you’re right. The multiple times Fehr worked to prevent sports leagues from shutting down should be disqualified because of the TWO times it has happened during his career as opposed to Gary Bettman who now has THREE that cost the NHL games with one full season and as well a FOURTH that didn’t end up missing any games thankfully.

      • blomfeld - Nov 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

        Your biggest delusion is the one where you think anyone gives a flying f*** what you think or say.

  7. acieu - Nov 25, 2012 at 6:13 AM

    Mass Suicide planned in Canada
    GOOSE BAY-The prospect of no NHL hockey season has 60 percent of Canadians planning self immolation as the awareness of what the filthy Americans have done to our game rises in the general consciousness of the True North’s citizens. O’ Canada you say? How could our home and native land have reached this state? Well it’s because of the fact that our only other sporting event the Grey Cup will be played today and all we will have left is pissing and moaning about how a Canadian based pro hockey league would make us hosers happy. True patriots believe that given the strength of the loony we can pay our boys to stay north of the boarder eschewing the Yankee dollar. Meanwhile current NHLPA leader Mr. Fehr and owners of the NHL franchises are trying to divvy up the possible revenue from selling the North American broadcasting rights to mass suicides. The immolations are scheduled for the day the season is officially cancelled. Meanwhile in the evil empire to our south Americans are asking what the initials nhl stand for. One wag on he street opined it must mean Not Here (much) Longer. All we need said one of the frustrated Montreal Francophones is a Canadian born Commissioner. You see Pierre Garage said ” only Canadian farm boys from Alberta could possibly understand the game. However he must speak French and support a separate sovereign Quebec. The only real problem I see is there are no Canadian born hockey players left in the Country as they are apparently all in Europe pretending to love the wider ice surfaces.

    • id4joey - Nov 25, 2012 at 6:38 AM

      Nice one!

      • valoisvipers - Nov 25, 2012 at 9:44 AM

        Joey nice to see at your age you can still do an all nighter. Well done indeed friend.

      • id4joey - Nov 25, 2012 at 12:23 PM

        valoisvipers, only when I don’t drink…. LOL!

    • valoisvipers - Nov 25, 2012 at 9:41 AM

      acieu Why would you refer to our good neighbors to the south as filthy

  8. Jeff - Nov 25, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    I really think that if a majority of owners didn’t want a lockout there wouldn’t be one. I really think that if a majority of owners didn’t want Bettman in charge he wouldn’t be commissioner. The owners would have spoken up by now, or within the last 20 years. Instead, Bettman is still commissioner. Actions speak louder than words, and the actions of the owners is that Bettman is still in charge.
    Additionally this whole minority, eight owners thing is the minimum, MINIMUM, number of voting owners Bettman need to act on a labor issue.

    • daburghdabest - Nov 25, 2012 at 11:08 AM

      The majority of owners don’t want a lockout but Bettman only needs 8 votes to institute & maintain a lockout. The owners are under a gag order not to discuss their stance publicly. Even if you don’t believe the stories about the disagreement going on amongst the owners, the owners are obligated to be united in cases like this because if it some point THEY need something going against fellow owners on a key issue could come back to hurt them.

      • blomfeld - Nov 25, 2012 at 2:37 PM

        Your biggest delusion is the one where you think anyone gives a flying f*** what you think or say.

  9. Jeff - Nov 25, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    Most teams are losing less money now that the lockout is on. I’m willing to bet a majority of team owners want the lockout.

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