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Subban not eager to discuss contract talks

Jul 26, 2014, 6:50 PM EDT

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If you’re wondering how contract negotiations are going between the Montreal Canadiens and P.K. Subban, you’re not going to find out from the 2013 Norris Trophy winner.

Subban was in attendance at the RBC Canadian Open golf tournament in Montreal on Saturday and spoke with reporters briefly, but wasn’t eager to discuss how talks were going in getting a new deal done as Bill Beacon of The Canadian Press (via TSN) shared.

“I’ll answer one question about the negotiation: It’s been kept pretty quiet the whole time and it’s going to remain that way until a deal’s done,” Subban said. “As of right now, I’m just trying to enjoy the day and not think of anything.”

Subban is scheduled to go to arbitration with the Canadiens on Friday, August 1 if the two sides can’t get a deal done by then. With a week to go, that’s plenty of time for both sides to come to an agreement.

Subban is coming off a two-year, $5.75 million deal signed out of the lockout. Chances are very likely that Subban, now with a NHL award under his belt, will command more than that per year in his next contract.

If a deal isn’t done before Wednesday, we’ll find out where both sides stand in negotiations in arbitration as they have to submit what they believe should be paid out as a reward. The smart move for Montreal is to get a long-term deal done before anyone has to go to court.

  1. lowenni - Jul 26, 2014 at 6:57 PM

    He’s gonna be asking for a monster deal. I don’t know if he’ll get it but he can reasonably ask for 8.5 million. Although it sucks, that’s why they had to move Josh Gorges. Feel bad for that guy, class act. I’m expecting him to sign something similar to Letang’s deal–but with that Norris he has, he can probably get 8. I can never really decide if I’m a fan of his or not, he’s so exciting and electric to watch, and I don’t think he’s quite as much of a flopper as he’s made out to be, but he definitely does have some traits not generally characteristic to the game of hockey. Is a little bit of personality so bad though? That’s the way sports stars are nowadays. And that’s what Subban is and will be–a star. And he’s about to get paid like one.

    • theskinsman - Jul 26, 2014 at 7:19 PM

      Words to describe what a flopper he is are what’s difficult. What you call personality, fans of other teams recognize as the activities of someone who will never have the word ‘classy’ used to describe his cheap, revolting antics. All that talent, and the maturity of a 5 year old.

      • lowenni - Jul 26, 2014 at 7:51 PM

        I wasn’t describing the flopping and embellishment as personality–that’s a part of the game I have no respect for and hope can be removed. By personality I meant the celebrations, the hits, the moves he pulls, etc. that people criticize him for. Same thing happened to Ovi when he was younger. THAT is personality, and I don’t think that’s bad for the game (as long as everything is clean). There’s no denying he’s got passion for the sport. He’ll mature.

      • bsaures - Jul 27, 2014 at 1:44 AM

        WhAt has he done that is so terrible? Thats right nothing its just people being judgemental because he plays for the habs and because hes black. The proof look at all the guys that came before him the roenicks rechi, hextall and many who were all ten times more chirpy dirty, and wilder than subban has ever been and he still takes more garbage from people. He gives way more back to the community than 99 percent of the rest of the players yet ignorant people like yourself who put blinders on about their own players and judge him unfairly. The league would be much better if every team had a guy like him.

    • drewsylvania - Jul 27, 2014 at 2:09 PM

      Ah, the race card. Is there anything it can’t sanctimonize?

      • alliceishome - Jul 27, 2014 at 3:31 PM

        Yup, there’s never been any issue of race.

  2. 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 26, 2014 at 7:05 PM

    No talk of his negotiations. He’d rather interpretively div….dance them for the TSN guys.

  3. blynasty - Jul 26, 2014 at 7:30 PM

    He looks crazy realistic in the NHL 15 trailer #IdontworkforEA

  4. billiam55 - Jul 26, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    hes not worth the big bucks yet. has a lot of growing up to do when it comes to all the BS on the ice. when he is focused he is good. but when hes frustrated hes a baby. he embellishes and dives.

    • bsaures - Jul 27, 2014 at 1:28 AM

      Still more grown up than the bruins with their ball spearig and dquirting people from the bench

      • tdrusher225 - Jul 27, 2014 at 5:47 PM

        Funny how the Bruins weren’t even mentioned in the article or in that comment, yet you feel the need to get defensive. Even if you like Subban you can’t argue with what he said, but no let’s make this about the Bruins that seems logical.

      • gallyhatch - Jul 27, 2014 at 6:02 PM

        Ball-spearing. . . . like Markov did to Chara? Ok, got it. Good to know the Habs are above that kind of thing.

      • theskinsman - Jul 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM

        bsaures, don’t hand Subban’s poster too close to your bed. hate for it to get soiled.

  5. canada2014gold - Jul 26, 2014 at 8:41 PM

    Lol not worth the big bucks yet?? Buddy keep dreaming 9-10 mil per year 6-8 deal. Btw “still has room to grow” doesn’t apply to Norris trophy winning players lol. Your gm gambled and he lost when he had the chance to sign him long term a few years ago. Nucks would take him off your hands if u wanted??? Not sure what we have that would meet his value…yeah nothing

    • stakex - Jul 26, 2014 at 10:25 PM

      Lets be honest…. Subban won the Norris last year because he was lighting it up big time on the power play for most of the shot 2013 season and racked up 38 points in 42 games. Now I’m not saying that he shouldn’t have won it, or trying to take anything away from him…. but there were certainly aspects of his game that year that weren’t spectacular. Thus, despite winning the Norris, he still has room to grow.

      Its very unlikely you will see Montreal give him $9-10 million per year for 6-8 years. For starters that would give him a cap hit that’s at least 10% higher than any other defensemen in the NHL (Weber is the highest at $7.85, and only six guys are over $7 million). Subban is a great player and definitely a top 10… but worth more than any other defensemen in the NHL? Probably not. I think $7.5 million is a pretty safe bet.

      Also don’t forget that Subban is a RFA, and Montreal isn’t going to pay retail price at this point. On the open market? Sure…. it wouldn’t be shocking to see him get some crazy offers, but that’s less likely in his current situation.

      • phtjoey - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:23 AM

        Teams cannot make offers to players after the player or his team files for arbitration. He’s staying in Montreal. Will it be a short term contract at a little less money and be a UFA afterwards or will it be a long term monster contract?

  6. desertfan - Jul 26, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    7 x $7m

  7. kingsfan93 - Jul 26, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    PK Subban want a 7yr deal.

    I say he will get about $7.6M a season.

    Not that this would happen……but I would not only be shocked, but I would laugh if Montreal let him walk away.

  8. justanotherphillyfan - Jul 26, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    At least 7 or 7.5M a year, but I think it’s gonna be close to 9M a year if they gonna do it very long term, like forever.
    It’s not about what this guy is worth, next year or the year after it’s what he should get in the open market and what kinda player he will be in 6 years when he’s still playing for that contract he is to sign right now.
    Giroux wasn’t worth 8M a year when he signed that contract, he probably isn’t next year either but sometimes you have to pay a little bit over the edge in the first few years to keep those kinda franchise players. Yes with some risks but that’s business and that’s why you have scouts and stuff like that.

    Montreal never should’ve signed him to that very cheap 2 years bridge contract in he first place. It was almost insulting to a guy that caliber/potential. Everybody can still remember that day a few years back, everybody was thinking about 4 or 5M a year but out of the blue came that bridge contract that was way below Subban’s value. It almost looked like Subban signed a part-time contract or something.

    They gonna pay him big to make up for those two ‘below average’ years he just played for them. He signed that bridge contract to show the people in Montreal he wasn’t only after big money but really doing something to stay in Montreal – look at him, he says all the right words in the media. Wants to be a Canadian for life, loves Montreal, never talks about options or other teams. He’s a good guy, he could flirt with other teams if he wanted it. He could have a long term near 100M on the table by now that Montreal had to match if he really wanted it to be he stays classy and respectful towards Montreal.

    I hope Montreal has the money for this guy, because if for some reason this guy is gonna walk I think some heads will roll in Montreal. This guy has peeked some times but still can grow if you like him or not he’s gonna be a top defensemen in the NHL for many years to come.

    • elrock7 - Jul 27, 2014 at 7:56 PM

      Haha the guy will never be a leader, and is pretty much a one dimensionable player. easy to see if you take off your hab-coloured glasses.

  9. argofckyourself - Jul 26, 2014 at 10:47 PM

    Why are people so in love with this guy like he’s the premiere defenseman in the league or something? He got exposed as the cheap-shotting crybaby he is in the playoffs and several Rangers made him look terrible because when he’s forced to drop back on defense for a rush going the other way, he’s totally lost. Ryan McDonagh is the best defenseman in the world. Subban wouldn’t be getting any attention of he wasn’t playing in Canada.

    • shaundre93 - Jul 27, 2014 at 12:05 AM

      Lets not get ahead of ourselves. McD is great but not the best. Top 3 imo since Lidstrom retired has been Weber, Chara, Suter. Only D in the game capable of single handedly shutting down a team while still providing offense. I know charas a bit over the hill but until he stops putting up 40-50 pt +25 seasons while leading his team in min played by a mile, I’ll consider him the best. McD will be up there soon though

      • jefsuz - Jul 27, 2014 at 12:56 AM

        Really? Ur top 3 d Chara, Weber and Sutter? One name for u. Doughty! No one will ever take u seriously if u leave Doughty out of the top three. Not just my opinion but most all prominent hockey analysts feel the same way. Doughty, Keith, Weber. Top 3. Period!

  10. canada2014gold - Jul 26, 2014 at 10:50 PM

    I don’t think he’s worth 9-10 mil, that was not my point. My point is he gets 9 mil because if the bridge contract and his points per game Norris trophy and his ability to raise his play come playoffs.

    • argofckyourself - Jul 26, 2014 at 10:56 PM

      How did he raise his play in the playoffs? He looked awful in the Conference Finals. He had a good series against Boston, but defensively I don’t see what the big deal is about him. I saw several plays where he flat out just got beat and looked lost. He should not be paid like the top defenseman in the league.

      Also, my original comments weren’t directed at you. Honestly, I didn’t even read your post until just now.

  11. ribs108 - Jul 26, 2014 at 11:54 PM

    2 wishes:
    1. offer sheet or
    2. ask for 12 million from Montreal, but 8 million from any other team (for the HIGH tax rate in Quebec and for mistreatment by management).
    Face it – he really doesn’t belong on the Canadiens.
    Go for it PK!!

    • phtjoey - Jul 27, 2014 at 12:25 AM

      A player is no longer eligible to receive an offer sheet after he or the team files for arbitration.

  12. canada2014gold - Jul 27, 2014 at 12:32 AM

    Lol wow Montreal wants a guy to steal
    3 rounds now! Haha exactly why your going to run this guy out of town. Your expectations are not realistic, fact is kane and toews set the bar for elite players. Minus a million because of the no cups but if you want your boy your gonna pay 9 million. Thinking ur gonna get him cheaper because he had one bad playoff round is a joke, arbitration will get you a one or two year deal. After that he walks for sure. Montreal is faaked

  13. canada2014gold - Jul 27, 2014 at 12:37 AM

    Not trying to bash u though, I get your point. What he deserves and what he gets is 2 different things lol. To me he’s worth 5 years 7.8 miliion. It’s a joke what these guys are asking for right now

  14. endusersolutions2013 - Jul 27, 2014 at 2:39 AM

    I flat out don’t get the lofty #s he and his appearant fans on this thread are posting.

    I actually took the time to look at PK’s #s along sevral key categories, compared to some more establisted offensive d-men. And the #s did not stack wekk. Too late now tonight to post dertail, but he was clearly 7 of 7 – talent, but not there yet.

    Yet some posted a higher contract rate over the next two years.

    Not happpening, of a dumb happening. One thing he needs to work on is reducing the penalties.

    PK, want to make some bigger $$$s? – put yourself on a n accountible improvement path.

    • endusersolutions2013 - Jul 27, 2014 at 3:35 PM

      gotta stop posting when I’m fighting sleep – that was embarasing!

  15. pone27 - Jul 27, 2014 at 2:44 AM

    This convo/thread is gross.

    First off, your top 3 D in the NHL: Keith, Doughty, Weber.

    Next, and while I hate to say it, Subban has a Norris under his belt. This gives him a ton of leniency/over-value for what his demands are. We all know he is not a PPG Dman, and that his Norris year will go down as his career year. But needless to say, he is a top Dman in the NHL, and deserves a solid contract. Guys like Weber and Letang only help his demands. As much as we hate what he thinks he is valued at, he will command, and earn, top D money. He is, IMO and at this point in time, worth 6.5 mil over 4 years. He will earn more, but I do not think that he deserves anything higher.

  16. patshal - Jul 27, 2014 at 6:23 AM

    He’s not going anywhere

  17. phtjoey - Jul 27, 2014 at 8:13 AM

    If Subban takes a 2 year deal worth about 14 million he’ll become a UFA at the end of the contract, and the cap,is expected to go up during that time. The Habs on the other hand should pony up now because it’s going to be more expensive in 2 years from now.

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