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Kane, Toews could’ve commanded $13.8M cap hits, says agent

Jul 16, 2014, 6:59 PM EST

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Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews became the NHL’s first $10-plus million cap hits last week and, according to their agent, those figures could’ve been even higher.

During Wednesday’s presser to announce the signings, Pat Brisson — who represented both Kane and Toews in negotiations — said the two each could’ve fairly asked for $13.8 million per season, the maximum allowable under the collective bargaining agreement.

Per the CBA, teams are allowed to offer players a maximum of 20 percent of the salary cap. With it being set at $69 million for next season, Kane and Toews could’ve combined for a staggering $27.6 million cap hit, which is a whole lotta cash.

(Worth noting that, in the first three years of their deals, both will earn $13.8M in salary, a figure that drops off in subsequent years…)

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It boggles the mind to think what $13.8M cap hits would’ve done to Chicago’s financial outlook, especially since things could get tight in the Windy City once Kane and Toews’ $10.5M per extensions kick in after next season. Per Capgeek, the club will have just 15 players under contract for $65 million in 2015-16, and there are some big negotiations on the horizon: Brandon Saad, a budding star in his own right, will need a new deal after next season; same goes for versatile center Marcus Kruger and offensive defenseman Nick Leddy.

(Blueliner Johnny Oduya is a UFA after next season too.)

All that said, both Kane and Toews made a point of saying their new extensions were designed to keep the team together, not blow it apart.

“With the cap rising, we feel pretty comfortable about where our deals were at to still have good players around us,” Kane said, per NBC Chicago.

Related: Could the Chicago-Florida pipeline open once again?

  1. pmonte3122 - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    You’re still not doing any good with 10.5…

    • 950003cups - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:11 PM

      That’s not a major issue. The cap will climb, and these guys are good and young enough to still win another cup. No reason to panic.

      • rmccleary97 - Jul 16, 2014 at 11:03 PM

        The cap isn’t going to climb high enough, fast enough, to help deal with the new contracts needed for Saad , Kruger and Leddy (and don’t forget about Andrew Shaw the year after) *and* fill out the final 5 spots with quality guys, without having to jettison away someone … unless Chicago can convince another Brad Richards-type player to come in and play for $2 million.

        The real fun starts in ’16-17, when they’ve got only 9 guys under contract already eating up $52.7 million – and that doesn’t include new contracts for Shaw, Saad, Kruger and Leddy (but does include Teravainen at “only” $894,167 … the last year of his ELC). Conservatively, those 4 could end up eating another $12.5 million between them – which then leaves $15 million for 8 spots. 3 of those are on defense, and one of those is Seabrook. They could easily end up top-heavy again, and we saw how that worked [didn’t work] out in the 2 years after the 2010 Cup run.

        If the cap doesn’t go up $6 million next year and $11 million in 2 years, …

      • lordfletcher - Jul 16, 2014 at 11:43 PM

        I don’t see Leddy in Chicago much longer… Just a hunch

      • blomfeld - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:15 AM

        KANE & TOEWS = GLUTTONY

        Gluttony, derived from the Latin gluttire meaning to gulp down or swallow, means over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink or ‘wealth’ to the point of extravagance or waste. In some denominations, it is considered to be one of the seven deadly sins.

      • comeonnowguys - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:26 AM

        Agreed, Lord, Oduya and Leddy probably will be gone within the next year. Too bad, I like Leddy.

      • robocop3999 - Jul 18, 2014 at 1:20 AM

        @mccleary97 you are exactly right in your assessment on the Hawks cap situation. But @lordfletcher is right too: Leddy is replaceable.

  2. billiam55 - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:11 PM

    good luck with keeping all those stars. they’re gonna want big money to.

  3. boyofzimmer - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    Hey Billiam… To do what? Or do you mean too as in also, but don’t have the intelligence to spell? Oh well, haters gonna hate. Go Hawks!

    • billiam55 - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:47 PM

      alright calm down, u dont need to be a douche about it. not a hater of the blackhawks in any way. i was just saying that its going to be tough keeping everyone together when theyre gonna want the big bucks to.

      • bolthead2589 - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:51 PM

        TOO!!!!!!!!!

      • kaptaanamerica - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:12 PM

        language/ grammar police out in full force today…., expeshamee with the exclamation marks…

      • hockeydon10 - Jul 17, 2014 at 9:12 AM

        Grammar: The difference between knowing your s*** and knowing you’re s***!

        Grammar saves lives:
        “Let’s eat grandma!”
        vs.
        “Let’s eat, grandma!”

  4. sjsharks66 - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    They could have asked for that much… But they were so kind to take the biggest cap hits in the league. Such great teammates. Seriously though… If they win like 2 more cups in 5 years. It will have been worth it.

    • comeonnowguys - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:17 PM

      Jonathan Toews: Bad teammate personified, am I right?

      In case you weren’t picking up on it… /SARC!

      • desertfan - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:57 AM

        Young guys but really- not big time performers- look at last years stats??

        Double their relative value.

        What does this mean for SUPERSTARS???

        Crosby, Malkin, etc, etc, etc,

      • comeonnowguys - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:02 AM

        “not big time performers”

        This has to be a bit like Blomfield. You’re doing a bit, right? You can’t seriously think these two are worth $5.25 million/year.

        Otherwise, you need to put down that industrial-strength haterade. It’s bad for your blood pressure.

  5. Stiller43 - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    Anyone else think when those salaries start to dip down (especially with how the cap will rise by then), theyll ask for new deals paying them more in real $ per year?

    • killerpgh - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:46 PM

      In the NHL you can not restructure/renegotiate a contract. NHL contracts are guaranteed once signed. Players can’t demand more money while under contract and team can’t cut players without still paying them while under contract (except for buyouts).

    • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:54 AM

      No.

  6. nicofthenorthstar - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:43 PM

    The difference between NBA and NHL. There are a few exceptions (see spurs roster), but we all know how Lebron, the golden child of the NBA, feels about importance of self vs the team.

    • 950003cups - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:18 PM

      How about Carmelo Anthony. He was offered 4 years at $96,000,000 and turned it down for a 5 year 129,000,000 and had the balls to make it $124,000,000 and call it a “home team discount” so the team can use the other $1,000,000 per year to build a championship team. Complete arrogant fool. That’s what a Dolan owned team gives you. Nothing but arrogance and insults.

      • billiam55 - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:15 PM

        knicks and rangers two completely different things.

      • jhnyr45 - Jul 17, 2014 at 9:15 AM

        you have a hard on for new york sports…. Don’t you?

    • chanceoffleury - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:45 PM

      Just a question that is only half-related to the article, but is there an advantage to them having “signing bonuses” as opposed to just straight NHL salary? I ask only because I noticed Malkin doesn’t have any but Toews/Kane have huge ones every year. I already know how it affects the cap and everything, I just was curious as to what the purpose of structuring the contract that way as opposed to just putting it all as the player’s straight salary like Malkin’s is structured?

      • rmccleary97 - Jul 16, 2014 at 11:09 PM

        The only “advantage” to splitting it into signing bonus vs. regular salary is that the player gets a huge check on July 1 (or whatever date the bonus is specified to be paid) instead of having to earn the full amount of salary over the course of the season. Additionally, if the player is bought out the full signing bonus still gets paid – so if one of the two got bought out with 3 years remaining, instead of getting 2/3rds of $20.8 million (the total salary remaining) they’d get the full $13 million in signing bonus + 2/3rds of $7.8 million (the base salary in those final 3 years).

  7. pitpenguinsrulez - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    I’ve been meaning to say this but all of these players that have cap hits over $8 million are just like NFL QuarterBacks that have a $102+ million contracts in that those players have yet to win another championship. Aside from like Giroux most of these players each won a Cup before they signed these deals. That’s where the NFL comparisons come in. Those QBs with those contracts have yet to win another title as I’ve said.

    • 950003cups - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:13 PM

      Eli won 2

      • chanceoffleury - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:47 PM

        And he ruins every single Manning family Christmas dinner by reminding Peyton of that.

  8. milkmemalkin - Jul 16, 2014 at 7:56 PM

    The only duo in the NHL worthy of cap hits that big are Crosby and Malkin. Kane and Toews don’t even come close…

    • 950003cups - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:05 PM

      Dude, that name needs to be changed. Milk Me Malkin?

      • lakeshoreleafsfan - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:34 PM

        I don’t know what’s more offensive : the username or the comment

      • rmccleary97 - Jul 16, 2014 at 11:11 PM

        Maybe Evgeni buys him milk at the store when they run into each other.

      • jcmeyer10 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:16 AM

        In the kindest of lights, his user name could be read like a spin on the phrase “Beer Me”, so he is asking for Malkin to grab him a bottle of milk.

    • comeonnowguys - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:21 PM

      You’re so cute when you’re being a homer.

      And by so, I mean not really.

    • mackattack29 - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:00 AM

      No duo is worthy of that cap hit…

    • blackhawkdave - Jul 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM

      hahahahahahahahahhahahhahhaha

      what an idiot, crybaby Crosby is the most overpaid player in NHL history. Just a diving schmuck who has yet to do anything but whine …waaa…waaa…waaa

      • jpelle82 - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:02 AM

        poor dave, just woke up from a coma did you?

    • spynnal - Jul 17, 2014 at 2:08 PM

      Malkin and Crosby make under 9 million I think. Both signed undervalued contracts to leave room.

  9. Wineshard - Jul 16, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    If a player signs a contract that means the team offered it to him. Don’t just blame the players – there are two parties signing.

  10. comeonnowguys - Jul 16, 2014 at 9:23 PM

    If you would have told me ten years ago that the Blackhawks would be facing controversy because they’re paying their superstars too much money… well, funny how times have changed.

    Even if the cap didn’t rise, even if they didn’t have the talent in the pipeline, as someone who watched his favorite players as a kid driven out of town–it’s a nice change of pace.

  11. thesportsjudge - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:02 PM

    What a brilliant agent this guy is! They COULD have commanded the max? No way!

    • endusersolutions2013 - Jul 16, 2014 at 10:59 PM

      Hmmm, so you detect a bit of self serving spoin doctoring?

    • jpelle82 - Jul 17, 2014 at 10:57 AM

      same agent who got crosby 8.7 per. tell us now pat brisson….how much could crosby command now? 20 million? oh but he would only take 8.7 again to help the team….right. I guess making these lofty claims help bring business in to the agent, all the while making said agent look like he’s the good guy, that he’s looking out for everyone’s interest therefore making him the best guy to work with from a player and team’s perspective. pretty slick business man he is….

  12. canada2014gold - Jul 16, 2014 at 11:39 PM

    Should have tried a little harder to keep the puzzle together.

  13. mackattack29 - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:59 AM

    Haha oh what saints they are for not demanding 13 million. Cuz 10.5 million isn’t ridiculous at all…. When Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin combined is 2+million less than Toews and Kane combined cap hit of 21 million dollars. They screwed Chicago so hard with this. Love how Hawks fans deny it like it’s no big deal haha.

    • robocop3999 - Jul 18, 2014 at 1:36 AM

      Toews and Kane are better in the playoffs than Malkin/Crosby. Chicago would blow Pittsburgh outta the water, if they ever played in the final. And this is from a Oilers fan.

  14. blackhawks2010 - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:04 AM

    Kane and Toews best years are ahead of them. They are entering their prime, plus the salary cap will continue to increase with the interest in the game in the main markets growing. It would be nice to see a real TV deal be inked to promote NHL. It’s a joke with MSNBC televising games. Fix that Bettman!

    ESPN is still unaware that the NHL exists….

    • theageofquarrel - Jul 17, 2014 at 7:34 AM

      That’s because ESPN sucks

  15. blomfeld - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:04 AM

    GIVE ‘EM A BILLION … IT STILL WON’T MAKE A DIFFERENCE !!!

    the bottom line is that we Stanley Cup Champion Los Angeles Kings couldn’t give a rat’s ass about how much money the ‘punk’ and ‘Tinsel Toews’ are making. And do you know why that is ? Well it’s for no other reason than the fact that we ‘crushed’ these clowns when it counted and we’re going to do that again .. and again .. and again .. and again … etc :)

    GO KINGS GO !!! … TODAY, TOMORROW AND FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)

    • lakeshoreleafsfan - Jul 17, 2014 at 4:04 PM

      blomfield : in case you’re not aware, but arrogance usually ends badly for the one(s) who are arrogant in the first place

      Have you ever heard of teams going from first to worst in the span of a year? It does happen. Not saying it will happen to the LA Kings, but it is possible. If the team becomes just as arrogant as you are (as your comment implies) then the LA Kings will be in for a hard reality

      • puckoff70 - Jul 18, 2014 at 12:21 PM

        I would say that applies more to the hawks. The nucleus of their team is now overpaid Toews Kane Crawford and Bickell. This agent is running damage control knowing this supposed act of ‘generosity’ is going to harm their team more than it leads to their success.

      • comeonnowguys - Jul 19, 2014 at 10:31 AM

        Bickell is their core? What about Sharp, Hossa, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson–all of whom I would name before Bickell.

      • puckoff70 - Jul 19, 2014 at 2:58 PM

        I brought up Bickel and Crawford because of their bloating contracts. I think all of who you mentioned are worth the bigger dollars they’re earning.

  16. blackhawks2010 - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:12 AM

    Blomfeld…..I love your enthusiasm. Unfortunately, you are one of 12 in your hometown. Its surprising that the demand for tickets and the NHL is so low in Los Angeles. I typically fly in to watch games, no need to buy tickets in advance, plenty of lower bowl seats to buy walk up. Why is that? Just curious….

    • blomfeld - Jul 17, 2014 at 2:36 AM

      “Unfortunately, you are one of 12 in your hometown” …

      Friend, when I was domiciled in LA back in 2001, I rented an ‘executive’ suite at Staples for a Kings vs Hawks game one night and I invited our 25 ‘top’ corporate customers to attend … and what a complete joke that was ! Though their ethnicities varied, all were ‘long time’ LA residents who didn’t know ‘boo’ about hockey ! I remember these clowns actually ‘cheering’ after an icing call, or going ‘crazy’ when one of the Kings hopped over the boards for a change on the fly. The entire evening degraded into nothing more than ‘corporate’ prostitution, for such was their ‘unabashed’ ignorance and inability to appreciate the ‘wonderful’ game of hockey. But I digress, as today I live back home here in Vancouver where I continue to dwell as a so-called ‘freak’ who’s Canadian but loves the LA Kings ? … and I’ve been doing that since ’73 ! The bottom line in the end I guess, is that no matter ‘who or what’ you love in life, such love must continue until your very last dying breath … and for me, that will always be my LA Kings ! :)

      GO KINGS GO !!! …. TODAY, TOMORROW AND FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      executive summary: Blomfeld meeting the LA Kings back in ’73 = good times !!! :)

      • purpleguy - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:21 AM

        Can’t be easy rooting for the Kings in Vancouver. For some reason I picture you at a Kings/Cannucks game in Vancouver standing up frequently with an ipad mocking all of the Cannuck fans with different assorted video clips. And then starting a riot. . . .

    • shoobiedoobin - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:11 PM

      Hey buddy, remember when the Blackhawks drew in less than half the arena per game? They spent a decade in the bottom 10, almost hitting dead last a few times. You jumped from bottom 10 to 1st because all the dudebros who only support winners were too weak to stick by a loser.

      Chicago came down with the biggest case of B-A-N-D-W-A-G-O-N-I-N-G in hockey history.

  17. c9castine - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:14 AM

    its not a big issue and im not saying anything bad about these guys

    but 8.7 is a discount. 10.5 AAV…gonna have a hard time selling the “i took one for the team” line

    • broadstreetsbaddest88 - Jul 17, 2014 at 6:15 AM

      As you already know my hatred for the penguins an especially Crosby but I gotta give it to Crosby for takin a huge discount to put his team first. That was a classy move by him to save them some cap space to sign other players even though shero messed it up by rewarding other players with bloated salaries. Crosby deserves alot more credit for that deal now. That was a selfish move on Kane an toews part no matter how much the hawks fans an other people try to spin it. The fact that they tried for even more is just ludacris an has to leave some sort of a bad taste in hawks fans mouths. Brisson is ruining teams with gettin these star players insane contracts all over the league, he could careless who he pisses off, their biggest fans included, as long as he gets his fat check at the end

      • c9castine - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:48 PM

        i dunno, i dont think it was selfish or anything…but like i said dont try to tell us you guys took one for the team. you just got signed to some of the biggest contracts in league history and while i do agree that the ultimate success is winning the cup – thats something done as a team. as individuals we are talking about 75 pt 30 goal players who have never won any scoring titles or MVPs or anything like that. so, by my rough tabulation, these guys are getting paid about 3-4 million a year for “leadership and intangibles”. whos to say if thats worth it or not.

      • c9castine - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:51 PM

        i mean, giroux is locked up at a great price too. he signed his contract at a time where maybe it limited him just a bit but he is going to be hanging around for scoring titles and hart trophies for years to come. hes easy to make fun of but at the end of the day hes probably a top 5 player in this league year in and year out….its not far fetched to put him in a group with sid, malkin, stamkos, ovie…

        he signed at 8.2mil pretty quick probably knowing if he did it differently and waited a couple years he could have gotten 9-10.

  18. 19inarow - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:44 AM

    Imagine what the salaries would be if there weren’t a cap.

    1996–97 season
    Mario Lemieux (Pittsburgh Penguins) $11.35 million

    1997–98 season
    Joe Sakic (Colorado Avalanche) $16.45 million
    Chris Gratton (Philadelphia Flyers) $10.15 million

    1998–99 season
    Sergei Fedorov (Detroit Red Wings) $14.5 million

    1999–00 season
    Jaromir Jagr (Pittsburgh Penguins) $11.7 million
    Paul Kariya (Anaheim Ducks) $11 million

    2000–01 season
    Peter Forsberg (Colorado Avalanche) $10 million
    Paul Kariya (Anaheim Ducks) $10 million

    2001–02 season
    Jaromir Jagr (Washington Capitals) $11 million
    Pavel Bure (Florida Panthers/New York Rangers) $10 million
    Paul Kariya (Anaheim Ducks) $10 million

    2002–03 season
    Jaromir Jagr (Washington Capitals) $11.483333 million
    Keith Tkachuk (St. Louis Blues) $11 million
    Nicklas Lidstrom (Detroit Red Wings) $10.5 million
    Pavel Bure (New York Rangers) $10 million
    Paul Kariya (Mighty Ducks of Anaheim) $10 million

    2003–04 season
    Peter Forsberg (Colorado Avalanche) $11 million
    Jaromir Jagr (Washington Capitals) $11 million
    Sergei Fedorov (Mighty Ducks of Anaheim) $10 million
    Nicklas Lidstrom (Detroit Red Wings) $10 million
    Keith Tkachuk (St. Louis Blues) $10 million

    And if Wayne Gretzky played, today…egads

    • hockeydon10 - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:01 PM

      At least most of those guys scored 50 or more goals.

      The only forwards in that list not to have done so are Forsberg and Gratton.

    • c9castine - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:56 PM

      i would really like to know who Chris Gratton’s agent was.

      holy moly.

      • puckoff70 - Jul 18, 2014 at 12:24 PM

        Probably the same guy representing Kane and Toews.

  19. canada2014gold - Jul 17, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    What’s that I smell???? Damage control

  20. illogic87 - Jul 17, 2014 at 9:18 AM

    That Bickell contract looking pretty stupid right now lol

  21. mb30forlife - Jul 17, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    Who ever thinks that the 10 million signing was too much is a fool. Salary will go up again. Yes, they could of went for 13+ but they arent greedy and want to win more cups. Thats an extra 6-7 millions in the hands of Chicago to keep putting players around these guys.

    • shoobiedoobin - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:32 PM

      You know why agents make up this crap? Because people like you believe it.

      The cap will rise but it will NOT rise in perpetuity. 21 million a season for two players is a TON of cash and will be until the cap rises higher than it is likely to. Saying they could’ve asked for 13 is like saying I could’ve kicked you in the groin but instead I punched you in the jaw.

      Not to mention that neither of them are worth that much considering they’re both massively overrated because of the team they play on. Kane is skilled but doesn’t even score THAT much and floats everywhere but the offensive zone and Toews is good but hugely overrated defensively and cheats on draws. Sorry but that’s a look at them without hype-infused glasses.

      • mb30forlife - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:56 PM

        YEAH? Well i think anyone with half of a brain would much rather have Kane and Toews over Malkin and Crosby any day. Maybe not during the regular season but once playoff time comes around you bet your bottom dollar Toews will out play crosby day. Showed it in the outdoor game alone. but iam sure you didn’t watch that one now did ya?

      • mb30forlife - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:58 PM

        You are obviously are sour over something about the blackhawks in general (possibly they with drew your team from the playoffs?) with a statement like that. I however am completely bias.

      • shoobiedoobin - Jul 17, 2014 at 12:59 PM

        ^I hate Crosby and think Malkin’s a bit of a punk too. But those two are worth WAY more than Kane and Toews.

        Anyone with half a brain doesn’t judge a contract based on one outdoor game kid.

      • shoobiedoobin - Jul 17, 2014 at 1:01 PM

        Oh, and Crosby/Malkin outperform Kane/Toews in the playoffs too.

        Like I said, overhype because of the team they’re on. That’s just reality. You’re biased, I’m not. I can look at it for what it is.

        The two of them are hugely overrated. Fact.

    • mb30forlife - Jul 17, 2014 at 2:21 PM

      Pittsburgh was a much more stacked team than CHI…. and they also play in a much tougher Division and Conference. I didn’t solely base my opinion on just the outdoor game… KID. Its a proven fact. Look who stays more composed vs throwing hissy fits when he gets hit or starts pulling peoples hair, Now which guy would you want as your captain? Someone that will take a hit from a guy like Chara and keep on playing or someone that lets little ‘ol Scott Hartnell get under his skin? Even when the Pens won the Cup against Detroit Crosby had one of the fewest amount of points on his team in that series. CHI has 2 cups…. Pens have 1. Also, When they won that cup. They had 3 Potential first line centers on that team. You can blame the Penguins goaltending or what ever argument you want up after the fact but Crawford is just as good a goalie as Fluery. If anything…. Fluery is the better goal tender. Its the pens softness on the puck that creates turn overs and their overly fancy style of play. CHI just gets the puck and puts it on net. Sure they get garbage goals. BUT THAT IS WHAT WINS YOU GAMES IN HIGH PRESSURE PLAYOFF RUNS!

      • mb30forlife - Jul 17, 2014 at 2:23 PM

        KID

      • shoobiedoobin - Jul 17, 2014 at 2:39 PM

        “Pittsburgh was a much more stacked team than CHI”

        ….They’re really not. Not even close. Chicago has a stacked D. Pittsburgh had to go hunting for guys who can play defense. Pitt has no depth while Chicago is loaded with it. But just wait-they’re going down the same road. These contracts ensure you’re losing players, and soon.

        Have you forgotten Toews hissy fit against Detroit? Multiple times over the course of the series? Not to mention his constant diving.

        Chicago won the championships, not Kane and Toews. It’s not like Chicago would’ve lost if you replaced Kane and Toews with Crosby and Malkin. And don’t talk about easy competition when Chicago’s first title was basically by default.

        Crosby/Malkin had nothing to do with this anyway, simpleton. Point still stands-this is too much money.

        I hope Oduya, Sharp, Bickell or any combination of players who inevitably lose their place on the team because of these contracts waves a nice long one-fingered goodbye to Kane/Toews on their way out. And things won’t get easier for these two schmucks either when all the help disappears.

      • mb30forlife - Jul 17, 2014 at 3:41 PM

        Chicago has stacked D??? How? Because they have a highly over rated Duncan Keith? or How about Seabrook and all his turn overs? Yeah… They are stacked alright. It may seem that way when a team actually knows how to play hockey and the WHOLE TEAM plays defensively. The coaching and up bringing of the players is what makes that team the way it is. yes they have great players but even Hossa has his flaws. He is very streaky and so is Sharp. Keith is light on the puck hes only really good for point shots. Brent Seabrook is no where near what he was 5 years ago. Odyua is their best defensive defenseman and hes a 2nd or 3rd line pairing. Leddy is good but he is still young and makes mistakes. Paul Martin. Brooks Orpik are two of the nastiest defensemen in the league to this day, Letang is light on the puck yes. Olli Maata is a sick offensive D man. Niskanen was good for Pit. The D is pretty much very similar but when you have the likes of Crosby, Malkin, Neal and even Kunitz you should be making the eastern conference finals EVERY YEAR. How did LA win 2 cups already? Their team on paper isnt all that good….. its bc everyone takes care of the puck. Not because they have STAR players. Their team has a system that ACTUALLY PLAYS DEFENSE. and their Centers are the story of that. So how did Pit not win 4-5 cups with Crosby, Malkin and Staal down center ice? BECAUSE THEIR TEAM CANT TAKE CARE OF THE PUCK! Just the same and Toronto. They are great on paper but terrible on the ice. Go learn something of actual hockey and stop reading all your stats and what ever else you read into. WATCH A HOCKEY GAME FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

      • shoobiedoobin - Jul 17, 2014 at 4:05 PM

        “Chicago has stacked D??? How? Because they have a highly over rated Duncan Keith? ”

        You’ve officially hit the point where you’ll say anything to oppose me. So let’s sum it up-everyone is overrated or shaky on your team other than the two guys who you’re scrambling to defend because they’re overpaid. You went on a lunatic tangent about teams taking care of the puck (which didn’t make much sense compared to your scathing reviews of individual players) but let’s say it did for arguments sake-that precise point is why I’m saying life is easier for everyone on the team, dumb and dumber included.

        You sound like you’re mad and blindly opposing everything I say. You need a rubber room.

    • c9castine - Jul 18, 2014 at 11:47 PM

      you said it yourself….

      you would have to have half a brain to think this was a good idea.

  22. nyrnashty - Jul 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    That’s really nice of them to take the hometown discount and settle for 10.5 :)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

    • comeonnowguys - Jul 18, 2014 at 9:31 AM

      On an unrelated note, how about that ‘Melo hometown discount?

      • puckoff70 - Jul 19, 2014 at 3:15 PM

        In perspective though NY Knicks revenue is twice that of the rangers for example and the nba’s TV revenue share is 4x that of the NHL. I don’t agree with crazy high salaries but fact is there’s a lot more $$ in the NBA than the NHL.

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