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Red Wings GM: Weiss should be ‘healed and ready’ for training camp

Jul 11, 2014, 8:04 PM EST

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Injuries derailed Stephen Weiss‘ debut season with Detroit, but the Red Wings seem (maybe curiously) optimistic that he’ll be good to go next season. In fact, he might even be healthy by training camp.

That’s the word that Red Wings GM Ken Holland passed along – albeit through a trainer – to MLive.com on Friday:

“(Trainer) Piet Van Zant texted him two days ago,” Holland said. “He said he’s feeling great, he’s training hard; he’s played some shinny (pick-up hockey). So far all reports are he’s healed and ready to roll in September.”

These bits from MLive.com do cast some doubt upon how authoritative that thumbs-up might be, though:

Holland told Weiss he only wants to hear from him if there is a setback. So no news is good news.

“If I don’t hear from him I’ll assume he’s getting better and better,” Holland said.

Such optimism didn’t sit well with everyone who follows the team:

No doubt about it, the Red Wings faced some serious injury issues in 2013-14 and still made the playoffs. Imagining a healthier Weiss, Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg (among others) can evoke thoughts of a nice improvement, especially if Gustav Nyquist and Tomas Jurco continue to improve.

Still, it’s anyone’s guess if Weiss, 31, will really be much healthier in 2014-15. The Red Wings signed him to a five-year, $24.5 million deal in the summer of 2013 only to see his injury concerns carry over after a miserable final season with the Florida Panthers in 2012-13.

His latest setback involved a follow-up surgical procedure in April and he’s only been able to ramp up his training since June, with this indirect update being the only sign that progress is taking place.

Still, Holland expressed some big-picture optimism to MLive.com:

“The biggest thing is health,” Holland said. “If we can get to training camp (Sept. 19) and get Pav, Z, (Darren) Helm, Weiss on the ice we’re optimistic we got the potential to be a decent hockey club.”

When it comes to Weiss, that’s a pretty big “If.”

  1. jmcurran28 - Jul 11, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Given how disappointing the Red Wings free agency was, a healthy and productive Weiss would be a nice surprise.

    • dueman - Jul 11, 2014 at 10:00 PM

      One goal in 2012….two goals in 2013….keep your fingers crossed, and maybe he’ll get three this year!

    • blomfeld - Jul 12, 2014 at 2:06 AM

      God speed to Bettman’s ‘life-supporting’ efforts in this essentially ‘irrelevant’ city !

      signed, SC Champion LA Kings !!! :) :) :)

      • polegojim - Jul 12, 2014 at 6:00 PM

        Here you go Blom – enjoy the history, realizing such lengthy hockey reading is unusual in LA.

        http://redwings.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=44079

        Still relevant after all these years… while LA is just cutting their teeth!

        Signed – 100 years of Red Wings hockey fans, looking at rafters draped with 11 Stanley Cup Banners

      • eduncan8888 - Jul 13, 2014 at 12:45 AM

        I remember the first time I watched hockey blom, don’t worry. While I don’t necessarily mind you insulting my city it’s when you come after my team that we have problems.

        You know how you guys got Doughty?

        You had a really bad season and got a top draft pick. I really can’t even imagine what that would feel like at this point and I’m 26.

        Also I’m not a basketball fan but didn’t a bunch of Detroit over-performing, career roll players beat a bunch of over-paid, over inflated egos when said Lakers were supposedly in their prime? Does that make us relevant?

        Here’s a little free Detroit widsom: When you win the cup, act like you’ve been their before.
        Dustin Brown learned that, he managed to not drop any F bombs on live T.V. this time during the cup ceremony.

        Have some class.

  2. hieronymous27 - Jul 11, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    More of a shock than a surprise.

    • polegojim - Jul 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM

      With a year off, we’re still talking about surgery and it’s still ‘SHOULD’ be ready.

      If he plays 1/2 a season, it will be a miracle…. But best wishes and hope he’s able to go!

  3. 101starmymedic - Jul 11, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Dan Cleary.

  4. 101starmymedic - Jul 11, 2014 at 8:39 PM

    Kyle Quincy.

  5. 3rdshifthockey - Jul 11, 2014 at 9:40 PM

    Interestingly enough what got them in trouble with Weiss, was Weiss. He didn’t disclouse or he at least played down an injury during the interview process. Then he didn’t tell anyone during training camp, during preseason, or untill about game 19 or 20. Can’t blame Holland for that. Van Zant, maybe, but this was all on Weiss and his failed surgery that ended his season. He could honestly come back close to 100% and put up 50-60 points, and i would be happy. If he doesn’t then that is just another contract like last season thats going to have to be put in the pyre as the kids pass him by.

    • rbbbaron - Jul 11, 2014 at 10:22 PM

      I’lll be happy when he outperforms Val during these last four years of their respective contracts

      • 3rdshifthockey - Jul 12, 2014 at 5:36 AM

        I would be happy if they preformed equally at this point. Val is a decent hockey player, he wasn’t worth the money he wanted to the Wings, because he never proved it, one 50+ points season in 5 years does not 5 million dollars make.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Jul 12, 2014 at 12:28 PM

      Shouldn’t the Red Wings doctors have some culpability in this situation? You don’t offer a contract like that to an over 30 player, coming off his worst season, without a serious and thorough medical (several from several doctors if you must). The guy played all of 17 games the year before and the Red Wings offer him 5 million? If Weiss lied and legitimately tried to cover up an injury that’s one thing, but if Detroit and Holland just took him at his word then that’s a whole other issue.

      • 3rdshifthockey - Jul 12, 2014 at 9:54 PM

        He has to pass a Physical during or before training camp.Doctors could of caught or seen something, but without knowing how his injury went from ” i’ll play through” to “you need surgery” i cant say for sure. It sounds like it started as a simple groin pull,or a small hernia and developed into something much worse. he was tracking right to come back before seasons end, but then he had complications from scar tissue that had to basiacly redo everything. Should Ken Holland have known, i don’t think so, he isnt a doctor he is a GM and relies on people and players to tell him whats up. Should Peit Van Zaant of known, probably. But Weiss admitted it was bothering him for awhile and he never spoke up or just brushed it aside. So its on them. Holland did what he could, called up Sheahan and Emmereton, and then waited for Weiss to get healthy.

  6. elrock7 - Jul 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM

    Its funny that OBrien thought it was necessary to explain what shinny is.

  7. gerwinke1985 - Jul 12, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    BREAKING NEWS: Franzen sneezes while Weiss is walking by. Franzen out indefinitely with 3 broken ribs. Weiss Out indefinitely after breaking his wrist from Franzen’s sneeze. In other news Holland is still happy with his roster and insists no move is imminent.

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