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Canucks’ scoring woes continue, now threat of injury emerges

Jan 17, 2014, 12:38 AM EDT

The Vancouver Canucks thought their three-game road trip through California and Arizona got off to such a positive start, despite opening it with a loss in L.A.

But whatever moral victory – the popular phrase in Vancouver this week – the Canucks believed they earned in that physical confrontation with the Kings four days ago took a drastic turn in a negative direction. The road trip ended with a 1-0 loss to the Phoenix Coyotes on Thursday night.

Hard to believe that a team lost twice by a score of 1-0 in a three-game span and still got outscored 11-1 overall. But it happened. Sandwiched in between was that embarrassing 9-1 loss to the red-hot Anaheim Ducks.

Over the last week, they’ve tried to be a more physical, aggressive team. A lot of fights and penalty minutes. But goals? Not so much, prompting the question: What’s going on with the Canucks?

Now, they face the threat of injuries to some key forwards. Mike Santorelli left the game after getting tangled up with Martin Hanzal on a faceoff in the third period. Brad Ziemer of the Vancouver Sun reported after the game that Santorelli was spotted with his right arm in a sling.

Henrik Sedin, Vancouver’s captain, and David Booth were also injured in the third period. Booth was on the receiving end of a high stick from Hanzal that landed the Coyotes forward a double-minor with less than five minutes remaining in the game.

But the Canucks couldn’t capitalize on the four-minute power play. In fact, they didn’t even really get set up. The Canucks finished the night a dreadful 0-for-7 with the man-advantage.

  1. canucks30 - Jan 17, 2014 at 3:00 AM

    The Canucks offense is the Sedins, Kesler, and a bunch of guys.

    And a bunch of guys doesn’t get you very far in the NHL.

    • davebabychreturns - Jan 17, 2014 at 10:34 AM

      So much this. With the cap falling and the Schneider deal it was pretty clearly going to be a transition year for this team but with some more flexibility in the offseason this franchise is going to have to make an aggressive move for another player who can create offense singlehandedly.

      If they don’t then I guess they might as well just start preparing for the Bo Horvat era because unless the NHL reverses course on the new Dead Puck era, this team is going to struggle to score enough goals to compete for a long time.

    • imleftcoast - Jan 17, 2014 at 2:59 PM

      Scoring woes, and a bunch of excuses emerges. If you watched the four-minute powerplay the Canucks had to end a 1-0 game on the road, you saw that no one but Kesler would skate with the puck. They were passing it back from center ice back into their own zone, and they didn’t even get a shot on net. The defense is terrible. They need to generate some offense from the blue line, and all they’re getting is 5 penalties a night for weak penalties resulting from not skating or being willing to fight for position in front. As far as I’m concerned, I’d rather see the bunch of guys that watch guys paid $4-5 million put out no effort.

  2. shortsxit34 - Jan 17, 2014 at 3:43 AM

    The only goal that they did get was when they steamrolled Andersen, taking him out of the crease. They should have been shutout all three games.

    Their tenders are the only two that deserve any sympathy. They both got left out to dry Wednesday and had zero help offensively Monday and Today. Let them have tomorrow off and let the rest of the team have a bag skate.

  3. joey4id - Jan 17, 2014 at 9:17 AM

    Canucks loss their way in LA. So much for moral victories. I’m sure right now there many who are standing and applauding Hanzal. ;-)

    • davebabychreturns - Jan 17, 2014 at 10:31 AM

      Are those the people who think it’s better to assault someone with a stick than with your fists?

      Let me tell you this joey4id, since the concussion thing and the spectre of a lawsuit against the NHL appears to be your hobby horse: assaulting someone with a weapon is more dangerous in general than assaulting someone without one.

      Hanzal’s stickwork might have come within the run of play but when he gets his stick up in the chops of a guy like he did with Booth it is vastly more dangerous than when a guy like Tom Sestito says “I’m going to punch you” and then takes a few shots at a guy who is covering up.

      If you really care about player safety then a guy like Hanzal running around getting his stick up in people’s faces is a serious issue. If you just care about complaining about fighting and stirring the pot, then, well, mission accomplished I guess.

      • joey4id - Jan 17, 2014 at 11:39 AM

        It was a sarcastic remark. My take on all of this should be obvious by now if you’ve been reading my comments with an intent to understand. I am unequivocally, and 100% against any head shots. Be they from an elbow, shoulder, knee, stick, or punch (glove on or glove off).

        LA vs Blues last night was fun to watch because of the way they played hockey, and not because of the attempt to punch out an opponent during a fight. I have not doubt that the Olympics will be very entertaining though fighting is disallowed. Lets face it. The NHL and the licensed broadcasting companies use violence to attract/maintain viewership.

      • joey4id - Jan 17, 2014 at 11:48 AM

        A sarcastic remark based on Torts’ quote following the game against LA and the Sestito attack on Nolan.

        ““If Tommy Sestito did that again, I would applaud him.”

      • davebabychreturns - Jan 17, 2014 at 11:50 AM

        Joey I gotta be honest, that all makes sense but your “benching a guy for 2 shifts is fine but benching a guy for 4 shifts is a travesty” bit the other day had me wondering if I should give your posts the benefit of the doubt or not.

        The NHL no doubt markets the game violence and all, and the Olympics will be better for a number of reasons; it’s once every four years, it’s best on best, it’s worth far more to most players than a road trip through Alberta in February, and yeah it’s not full of shoving matches and fights and stickwork.

      • joey4id - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:14 PM

        Hmmm! About the benching, if I recall, I wrote that if you want to send a message you don’t bench a guy for 4 shifts. Make him skip one, or two at the most. I also said that you don’t bench your best player. I wouldn’t… It doesn’t mean you don’t reprimand him. Unless my math is completely out of whack, 4 shifts for a d is approximately 9 minutes (conservative 45 secs/p shift) off the game clock, then add stoppages and TV time outs we’re easily over the 10 minute mark on the daily clock.

      • davebabychreturns - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM

        Don’t really want to get into nitpicking Joey, but you said you think the difference between what you thought was appropriate (1-2 shifts) and what actually happened (3-4 shifts? hard to say exactly) merited the kind of response (the team captain taking issue with the coaching staff’s lineup decisions) that I – and I’d guess most others – think is entirely excessive.

        BUT, you obviously are sticking to your guns on that so why should either of us waste further keystrokes. I’m just saying I think it’s totally out of hand and had that in mind when I misread your above sarcasm.

      • joey4id - Jan 17, 2014 at 12:45 PM

        What can I say? There are opportunities to learn, and you must choose when and what you want to learn. Excessive because we are usually only comfortable to admit what we know as opposed to what we don’t know. There is only one who knows it all….. Don Cherry! :-) (that was a sarcastic remark BTW)

      • joey4id - Jan 17, 2014 at 2:54 PM

        davebabychreturns, Below is an except from the book “Wearing the “C”: Leadership Secrets from Hockey’s Greatest Captains by Ross Bernstein

        Let me ask you something. If for example the players in general would not have approved sitting Subban or anything else the coached did, and they would have compalined because they felt it hurt the team as much as it hurt Subban, who do you think is responsible for bringing that to the attention of the coach? Believe me when I saw players complain about coaches, and when it gets out hand, the saying is “the coach has lost the locker room”, which some say happened in Wpg.

        “That dynamic, of being the conduit between coaches and players, is a very slippery slope. The captain will be held to a higher standard, and quite frankly most players can’t deal with that kind of stress. That’s why there is only one captain. And that’s why picking him is such an ordeal for teams to go through. He has to convey their message on a delay on basis, while
        playing spy, constantly reporting back to the enemy camp. Leaders ship is a bizarre intangible; there’s no set guidelines to follow when selecting a captain. Each team has its own rationale for picking their guy to lead the rank and file. And if there is drama brewing within the rank and file, it’s up to the captain to convey that intelligence back to the coaches. They
        need to know about it so that they can address it. Little things lead to big things in locker rooms, and they need a mole on the inside who can keep them up to speed on everything go on. Sound crazy? Welcome to the world of an NHL captain.”

      • davebabychreturns - Jan 17, 2014 at 4:35 PM

        Yeah but you’re just assuming that Subban missing (an additional) 2 shifts is going to cause a situation where “drama is brewing within the rank and file.”

        Really? Subban being held to the same standards as his teammates is going to cause “drama” on a team that will lead to “big things”?

        I just don’t see it. And despite your admirable legwork in posting excerpts from books that I agree with (but don’t see as applicable) on the subject, I’m done discussing it further.

        I don’t think 2 missed shifts is going to cause revolt in the Canadiens locker room, I don’t think a team’s captain should be micromanaging the coach, I don’t think it’s a problem for a team’s best player to be held to a similar standard to his teammates (in fact I think it’s a good thing and that the teams where certain players get away with anything are the ones that end up with a “country club” atmosphere).

      • joey4id - Jan 17, 2014 at 5:37 PM

        You don’t know that it won’t or I don’t know that it will. It might, or it might not. Still! The C is responsible for bringing this stuff up to the coaches. Tough to admit it to yourself that the C has much greater responsibilities than you or the average joe is aware of. ;-)

  4. canada2014gold - Jan 17, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Rebuild? No no no let’s wait till our vets are worthless. There we go, gillis is worse than feaster

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