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Orpik: First days after Thornton attack were ‘miserable’

Dec 20, 2013, 1:14 PM EDT

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Brooks Orpik met with the media on Friday — following his first practice since the Shawn Thornton incident — and gave updates on his concussion recovery.

“First two, three days were miserable,” he said, as per the Pens’ Twitter feed. “Headaches. [But] since the incident, there has been no memory loss.”

Orpik, who suffered a concussion after Thornton slew-footed him to the ice before punching him in the head, said he has passed baseline tests and absorbed some contact in practice.

“Got through that and feel good today,” he said. “Going from there.”

The 33-year-old also told reporters that — while he hasn’t watched video of the incident and has no desire to — he did speak with Thornton following the attack:

There does not appear to be any timetable for Orpik’s return to action though, judging by the fact he’s taking some contact in practice, he shouldn’t be far away. Pittsburgh next players on Saturday against Calgary, then begins a four-game road swing on Monday in Ottawa, followed by games in Carolina (Friday, Dec. 27), Columbus (Sunday, Dec. 29) and New Jersey (Tuesday, Dec. 31).

As for Thornton, he is appealing his 15-game suspension, of which he’s already served six games.

  1. ffrda - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    If Orpik had have just been man enough to drop the gloves with Thornton after his borderline hit on a finesse-type player, ALL of this would have been avoided. Not saying Thornton was right to do whet he did, but Orpik holds some responsibility. Don’t really follow the Penguins closely, but from what I’ve read this is typical behavior for Orpik.

    • joey4id - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

      If fighting was banned then this would have never happened, and Parros wouldn’t be suffering from another concussion.

      • kastout11 - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

        Give me a break, if fighting was banned in hockey. Hockey is a necessary evil in hockey. A lot of people are against it, but there are a heck of a lot more that agree it is in intregal part of the game. Even though the Pens were a little thin with defensemen and he logs a lot of minutes. It is an unwritten rule that he was obligated to drop the gloves. Being a veteran, he should have known that. You cannot deliver a huge hit, and think that one of the other teams tough guys is going to send a message that you are not to take runs at one of their guys. I do not advicate what happened to him. Thornton’s actions were wrong.

      • gino97 - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM

        If fighting was banned Joe, we would have more guys like Orpik running around and targeting guys. He could have slowed up and still made a clean hit on Eriksson. Instead he labels him prompting a response from Thorton (who over-reacted) The outcome is two concussed players.

      • joey4id - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:24 PM

        I have a serious problem with the logic being presented to keep fighting in. When there is a hit like Wilson put on Schenn everyone is up in arms. When there’s a head shot which results in a concussion everyone is asking for the culprit to be suspended. When a player is concussed during a fight its ok. That I can’t reconcile with logic. Heck! Even a head shot with no penalty assessed or resulting in an injury led to a suspension. Ovi flattened Braydon Schenn in the game previous to the last one between the 2 teams. Schenn had his head down and was as defenseless as Eriksson was. He was cut over the left eye. Are you telling me that someone has to go after Ovi? I don’t buy the policing stiff one bit. We’ve seen enough bad hits in over 1100 hockey game already that tells me policing is not working. Ifs are easy to throw out. If fighting was out there would more this that and the other thing. Two fights in last years SCF. How many suspensions were handed out? Zero fighting in the Olympics. How many suspensions have been handed out?

      • jpelle82 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM

        joey…fighting involves 2 willing combatants, its really that simple. thats why no one feels sorry for parros right now.

      • joey4id - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM

        Yikes. I get the idea of two willing combatants. But! Dude! You’re cold! I feel bad for the guy. Concussions are serious injuries.

      • joey4id - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:31 PM

        Do you not feel sorry for every soldier having gone to war though they are willing? Some don’t come back, and many come back with long term effects including concussions and most with worse injuries.

      • jpelle82 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:41 PM

        actually no i dont feel sorry for them, i feel sorry for their kids but i dont feel sorry for them. and we shouldnt, it taints their legacy and diminishes the magnitude of their sacrifice.

      • joey4id - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:49 PM

        And what about the boxer who leaves the ring on a stretcher? Willing combatant. But you don’t feel sorry for the fallen combatant. Right?

      • jpelle82 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM

        no. theres no example you could give me really. they signed up for it.

      • joey4id - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM


      • theskinsman - Dec 20, 2013 at 6:38 PM

        If fighting was banned, there would be a big loss of fans and money for the NHL. If Orpik had a set, he wouldn’t have gotten hurt badly,even with that glass jaw he has.

      • theskinsman - Dec 20, 2013 at 7:04 PM

        In other news, Orpik knocked himself out when he patted aftershave on his face yesterday.

      • c9castine - Dec 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM

        wow gino97, you really made a case for fighting with that statement.

        my mind is changed.

    • burgh916 - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:01 PM

      Lol wow, “typical behavior for Orpik”… What’s that? Not being required to fight for a clean hit? Or any hit for that matter? Some people don’t want their brains scrambled and eating apple sauce for the rest of their lives.
      Stop trying to place blame on others, I’m sure if it were the other way around there’d be a manhunt for anyone else’s heads, I understand it’s in your blood to play the victim card.

      • cowboys282 - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:07 PM

        “Clean hits” don’t jeopardize peoples careers. Last I checked, as Oprik is ready to comeback, Loui Erickson is no where near ready. Some “Clean hit” that was. Hopefully Oprik remembers the Thornton incident the next time he lines up a skill player for a “Clean hit”

        Amazing how Homer’s see what they want to see.

        The facts are once Oprik returns to action 3 Bruins starters will all be missing long after from that game.

      • burgh916 - Dec 20, 2013 at 5:51 PM

        You’re an idiot. I’ll let the professionals who already decided it was clean keep it that way :) just because someone got hurt on a check doesn’t mean it wasn’t clean. Wow, if that’s the case every legal hit resulting in injury would be deemed dirty, you’re part of the problem.

    • nunan - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:12 PM

      I think we can move on from this argument of what each player should of or shouldnt have done. It’s a worn out topic. As for the other comments…fighting is NEVER going to be removed. something like 98 % of the players want it there. Nothing ever gets passed without their approval. Plus, as long as boxing and UFC are still around, something as minor as fighting in hockey isn’t going to be touched. It’s just a hot topic to discuss. Nothing will actually change. And for the comment on the Orpik hit being clean…the ruling the league makes doesn’t reflect whether it was really clean or not. It just determines whether they’re willing to suspend for it. I think anyone who knows hockey well understands that the hit was, at best, borderline. He clearly was looking to destroy somebody there and it’s obvious he made head contact (hence the concussion). Again, not saying he should be suspended but he shouldn’t be surprised that he becomes a marked man at that point. Whether you agree with it or not, that’s the way the NHL is. You hit a skilled player like that, any team is going to seek you out and ask you to personally answer for it.

      • hockey412 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM

        I think the fact that 1) it wasn’t penalized and 2) when brought to the league’s attention they said they weren’t reviewing it, pretty much answers the ‘clean or not’ debate. Fans of Boston will ALWAYS side with their guy, whether he acted as complete scum or not. I think there are some decent people in Boston, but there’s also a lot of fans that just want to see carnage like this also.

        If someone needs to make Orpik pay, hit him. Play on, feel bad for the injured, get vindication on the ice during play with clean hits…over and over throughout the game will wear a guy down. Don’t put a scumbag goon with about as high an IQ as the puck to follow him around, trip him, and attack him from behind. All these arguments about fighting are ridiculous – this wasn’t a fight, it was a blindside attack by someone with brain damage.

      • nunan - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:34 PM

        I think that’s an idealistic view of what should have happened. Plus, you’re going on hindsight. That sort of hit in that situation will ALWAYS be responded to by a specific type of role player on a team, like Thornton. Every time. It’s why every team has that sort of player. And Thornton is not a ‘goon’, as you put it. You really don’t know, and don’t care to know, anything about him and his style of play if you think he is a goon. He fights, yes. Doesn’t equate to being a useless goon, a la John Scott or Laraque.

      • jpelle82 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM

        he didnt obviously hit him in the head…if he had there wouldnt be a debate and he wouldve certainly been suspended or penalized. the video shows he hit him in the chest and the whiplash gave him the concussion. besides… i will take the video evidence, officials on the ice, and the board of discipline’s opinion over a fan of the team who’s guy got hurt’s opinion any day.

      • titansbro - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

        Maybe I don’t understand what is or isn’t “clean.” But I have seen the video several times & it’s pretty clear that Orpik’s shoulder hit Erikson directly in the face. If that’s “clean” in your book then I’m not sure what else to tell you.

    • greenmtnboy31 - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:08 PM

      Orpik’s primary responsibility is to his team, and therefore he has zero obligation to have “been man enough”. The hit wasn’t borderline, it was clean all day long and Orpik holds no responsibility for this. That’s just knuckledragger logic.

      You make a good point about the typical “behavior” of Orpik laying out guys with good, hard, clean hits; that’s hockey. Given that, you would think Loui would have been a little smarter and kept his head up.

      Thornton was dead wrong to do what he did and I believe he knows it. He was lucky he only got 15 games because the league is weak.

  2. Shanahammer - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:22 PM

    Weird that Pittsburgh releases quotes from Orpik the days that Thornton has hearings with the NHL.
    Just saying

    • elvispocomo - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      What, you mean the media will want to talk to injured players during their recovery, and that it might coincide with any discussion about a suspension for the player that injured them?! Amaze-balls!

    • hockey412 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM

      Pittsburgh didn’t release anything, but I love a good freakshow conspiracy theory. He practiced today. First time. After practice, the media got to him, which is customary.

      Just sayin’.

      • Shanahammer - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:33 PM

        Oh so the Penguins marketing department doesn’t have control over the Official Pittsburgh Penguins Twitter account????

        Yes he met the media and yes the team released his quotes on their twitter page.
        Publicizing them.

      • burgh916 - Dec 20, 2013 at 5:58 PM

        Love it, gotta grasp at straws merely because it includes the Penguins.

    • sclairebear - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:44 PM

      I hate to bring logic into the conversation, but doesn’t the fact that Orpik is feeling better and skating and saying that he considers Thorton a friend, actually help him with the hearing?

      • greenmtnboy31 - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM

        you consider that logic?

  3. joey4id - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    Take your time, dude! And I hope Eriksson is doing well. Anyone hear how Loui is doing?

    • joey4id - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:39 PM

      Dec 18 – “Bruins forward Loui Eriksson is still experiencing concussion symptoms, according to general manager Peter Chiarelli. Eriksson was at TD Garden Tuesday morning but doesn’t seem close to a return.”

  4. lowenni - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Obviously a terrible incident, but it’s good to see how much Thornton regrets what he did and how apologetic he is. Thornton has always been tough as nails, but he’s also always been clean. Hopefully this incident won’t end up defining what was a respectable career for him. He was basically in tears when talking to the media on the night of the incident. I didn’t really respect the fact that Dan Boyle wouldn’t take Maxim Lappiere’s calls after that hit, so I’m glad to see Orpik has listened to Thornton and accepted his apology.

    • Tyler - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      I have to question how sincere his regret is. Given his decision (and his right) to appeal the suspension, it comes off as saying “I’m sorry, but I’m not 15 games sorry.”

      • nunan - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM

        Why are you basing your feelings on that 15 games number? I have a feeling you would have accepted a 10 game suspension or a 25 game suspension and been happy with it. And then you would have reached the same conclusion if Thornton appealed. So 15 is really an arbitrary number to you and you’re just annoyed he’s appealing, in general. Any player would appeal a suspension that length, especially one who doesn’t make THAT much money, relative to other players. I don’t think it has anything to do with how sorry he does or doesnt feel.

      • steelpenbucs87 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM

        Disagree completely – he can still be sorry for the incident (which it seems he is) without wanting to give up 10% of his annual salary… that is a huge chunk of change.

      • hockey412 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:30 PM

        Completely agree…I truly feel Thornton feels he did what he had to do. And he shows it with his appeal.

        He needs to be taken to pasture along with any fan who feels that way.

    • burgh916 - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:06 PM

      I don’t buy the sorry stuff, sure he may actually be sorry, but in an act of rage he lashed out and seriously injured somebody, a little sorry after the fact shouldn’t cut it. If this was the real world they’d be sent to anger management classes and therapy to know why he lost it, and what made him lose it. He had plenty of time to not do what he did.
      I generally like Thornton, but losing your cool like that deserves more than a sorry, and people expecting everyone to just be “Oh he said sorry, it’s cool now guys!”

      • jpelle82 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:56 PM

        the two of them skate in the offseason, thornton plays in boston, orpik lives in boston, they said they are friends. i totally belive he is sorry. i got in a fight with my best friend in a pickup game because he tripped me twice in a row and laughed about it. i wanted to rip his head off. then i gave him a ride home and we got drunk that night when it was over. granted i didnt knock him out but i’m pretty sure if i did he would still be my friend (we’ve been through worse) and thats what happens in the real world. this happens between dudes, it just so happened to be at the highest level and on national tv. they can see red in the heat of battle just like you or i, and they can make up and forget about it just like we can…nothing wrong with that.

      • burgh916 - Dec 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM

        No I completely understand that valid statement. I’m just more worried about the bigger picture, where sleezeballs that think they can pull something like this and act remorseful can get away with it. While I believe Thornton is really truly sorry because he does hold his character to a high standard, it still doesn’t take away what he did to his “friend.”

  5. storminator16 - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Eric Cole simply doesn’t give a damn I’m sure.

  6. Stiller43 - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

    Once again idiots blame the guy who was slew footed and beaten while on the ice. Brilliant.

    Why should someone have to fight for a clean it? Wasnt borderline. It was CLEAN.

    • pete387 - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

      Yeah, but as we all know, big hits are challenged whether clean or not. Might as well drop the gloves and get it over with instead of wearing a bullseye for the rest of the season.

      • hockey412 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:31 PM

        The fact that that comment got 13 thumbs up means there’s way too many Boston fans in this comment section to attempt reason.

    • burgh916 - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM

      Because, Boston that’s why

    • nunan - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM

      Clean, how? Just because he wasn’t suspended? I guarantee you’ve been upset when a player on your team was the victim of a borderline hit like that. And then you were upset when the league decided not to do anything. So, make sure you’re not being selective just because you support the Pens. The league’s reaction shouldn’t determine your reaction to a hit. Let’s not be ignorant here, either. The puck WAS in Eriksson’s vicinity. It was NOT on his stick and Orpik made head contact (concussion). If nothing else, he lined up and smoked a skilled player. That will be responded to every single time. The league doesn’t want to suspend hits like that. Fine but it is still going to cause reactions that are retaliatory.

      • titansbro - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:47 PM

        There’s basically 3-4 objective, rational people commenting here.

  7. muckleflugga - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    and what of brooks orpik’s effort to contact loui eriksson by way of apology…?

    what i would like to see is orpik and the penguins organization acknowledge the extent to which orpik’s gooning of eriksson, contributed to orpik’s concussion

    i’d like to see penguins rationalize need to continue playing orpik after he was involved in a collision that was of sufficient magnitude so as to remove his opponent from the game…logic dictates forces in collisions are distributed in relative proportion to the colliding bodies…

    how could orpik not be concussed while eriksson was…thornton’s clearly guilty as charged, but orpik’s efforts at evasion after drilling eriksson indicate to me he was already hurt…

    i can’t imagine a man orpik’s size would be afraid of a little hurly burly, playing on a team that invariably resorts to brawling when frustrated by faster skill teams…he willingly engaged eriksson –a faster skill player– while holding a clear advantage in size…

    eriksson gave away twenty three pounds to orpik…thornton two


    • steelpenbucs87 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:21 PM

      Let’s go through these one by one shall we?

      and what of brooks orpik’s effort to contact loui eriksson by way of apology…?
      — it was ruled by the NHL and everyone else a clean hit. I’m sure he didn’t mean to hurt Loui, but if hockey players began to call one another to apologize for every hit that had an injury it would bring down the phone grid.

      what i would like to see is orpik and the penguins organization acknowledge the extent to which orpik’s gooning of eriksson, contributed to orpik’s concussion
      — only in that it was clearly the reason Thornton attacked him. You’re trying to blame the victim here.

      i’d like to see penguins rationalize need to continue playing orpik after he was involved in a collision that was of sufficient magnitude so as to remove his opponent from the game…logic dictates forces in collisions are distributed in relative proportion to the colliding bodies…

      how could orpik not be concussed while eriksson was…thornton’s clearly guilty as charged, but orpik’s efforts at evasion after drilling eriksson indicate to me he was already hurt…
      — simple – Orpik’s head did not hit the ice violently like Loui;s did. That;s why he wasn’t concussed. Orpik’s avoidance of Thornton is his MO – he never fights… EVER. he has one fight to his credit in a very long career.

      i can’t imagine a man orpik’s size would be afraid of a little hurly burly, playing on a team that invariably resorts to brawling when frustrated by faster skill teams…he willingly engaged eriksson –a faster skill player– while holding a clear advantage in size…
      — He hit a player playing (or at least who almost played the puck), this literally happens every shift regardless of size and speed of players.

      eriksson gave away twenty three pounds to orpik…thornton tw
      — so what? he shouldn’t hit him because hes smaller? If that’s the case Chara would never hit anyone hahaha.

      You. are. delusional.

  8. goalieguy37 - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM

    Glad Orpik is doing well, and glad he was a big enough man to talk to Thorton. with all the ugliness getting the headlines it’s good to see him describe thorton as a friend. Gives hope to me, as these are my favorite teams.

    • nunan - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:44 PM

      I think most players are able to keep a level head about it all. Obviously, there is some bad luck here. Orpik wasn’t trying to concuss Eriksson and Thornton was looking for retribution but he clearly wasn’t trying to put a guy in the hospital.

      • hockey412 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:34 PM

        Only one guy was doing what the league wants to see with a solid, clean body check and one guy attacked another from behind. Quit downplaying it or making the two comparable, you are sounding worse and worse as a person.

      • nunan - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        Never compared the two. And from all your posts, you’re clearly biased…you’re not hiding it one bit so don’t be a hypocrite.

      • titansbro - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM

        Some fans can’t separate their fanhood from the actual events on the ice. Everything about that game was dirty, or at least borderline. Orpik’s hit was borderline at best, although I am 100% sure there was major head contact as I actually watched the video. The Neal knee to Marchand’s head was dirty as hell. And Thornton’s attack on Orpik was pretty damn dirty as well. I also seem to remember a slash that broke Chris Kelly’s ankle. I think the 15 games for Thornton was acceptable, although I understand why he’d want to appeal it. I think Neal should’ve gotten more than 5 but whatever, at least the league recognized it with a suspension. If you can’t separate the actual events from the team you root for then you’re just a yahoo.

        nunan may be one of the few commentors on this site that I’ve seen who seems to be pretty objective, even if he is a Bruins fan.

  9. restohpens - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    Has anyone stopped to think that the reason Orpik doesn’t fight and DIDN’t fight is because he has a glass jaw and KNOWS that he will be seriously injured?

    It’s not that hard to comprehend really.

  10. montrealbbr - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    I think it’s time to consider taking fighting out of the game. People say that you have fights so that the players police themselves and prevent dirty hits. Take a look around and you see lots of dirty plays and concussions from them. The fact that you can fight isnt stopping anything.

    • hockey412 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:35 PM

      Either way, fighting had nothing to do with this. This was an attack from behind. No matter where you stand on fighting, THIS has to be removed. Hopefully for good.

      • montrealbbr - Dec 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM

        If fighting was taken out of the game you wouldnt have goons like Thornton sucker punching guys from behind. Imagine if this happened in another sport, the guy doing it would probably be fined and suspended for a very long time. If you allow fighting you are basically saying it is ok to punch guys no matter what.

  11. sjsharks66 - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM

    There is nothing wrong with hitting a guy like Loui. He did it at the start of the game to set a tone and pump his team up for what was going to ( and became ) a physical game. I respect Thornton and still like him as a player and a person. I just feel like he should take the entire suspension.

    As for Orpik not contacting Loui? It may be because he was taken to a hospital and was dealing with being concussed. You have to think of yourself first in those situations. Im sure he will get to Loui eventually. Orpik and Thornton are both stand up guys on and off the ice.

    • theskinsman - Dec 20, 2013 at 7:00 PM

      There is nothing wrong with hitting a guy like Loui.

      So go ahead, take head shots…and cry like the little girls most pens fans on here are when you get even a little payback. Orpik hit Loui with a nasty shot to the head, then lacked the balls to engage a guy his own size, because he’s a gutless, glass jawed coward.

      Orpik gets the loui head shot, who knows if he ever comes back, Neal, dirtbag that he is knees marchand in the head totally on purpose. Forget the slash that broke an ankle, that’s just pens hockey in a nutshell.
      Play dirty, injure as many as possible, run from anyone who actually challenges you, then cry when someone snaps and give one of your goons a couple half hearted punches with the gloves still on.
      From where I viewed this, the pens are way ahead in getting away easy with cheap shots injuring players.They have for years. Why did Tortorella get fined 25 thousand? For telling the truth about the pens organization.
      It’s been clear for a long time the NHL gives them preferential treatment. It’s also becoming clear that other teams are more than willing to respond with the same type of play. So get a couch ready for Sid, I fully expect someone to line him up for a blind head shot,a 2 handed slash, or a beat down.
      I never root for any player to get injured, but to expect teams to sit back and endure cheap shots and dirty hits is just stupid. Even if the league and refs don’t like it, they’ll eventually have to at least pretend to be fair with calls and discipline or the injuries will just continue.

      • upyoursnfu - Dec 20, 2013 at 9:50 PM

        You really got a hard on for the Pens. I kinda skimmed thru most of your posts on this page… about whiners. All you do is whine about the Pens and try to play off some bias opinions as facts. Get a tampon for Christ sake.

      • theskinsman - Dec 21, 2013 at 5:18 AM

        I call it the way I see it.They play a cheap shot game and for the most part,get away with it. Try explaining why other organizations in the league say the same thing. It’s a fact, one you aren’t mature enough to handle.

  12. hosewater2 - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Bertuzzi was apologetic too.

  13. muckleflugga - Dec 20, 2013 at 2:58 PM


    i’d like to see you…

    counter with logic and supportable fact…avoid airy-fairy speculation…present opinion based on practical experience

    bring something of substance to an argument, i’ve seen it in the past

    post less, be heard more

    • hockey412 - Dec 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

      I’ve heard the argument over and over from Boston fans that Loui had been hurt and so Orpik shouldn’t have hit him – cleanly or otherwise. But why was he in the game if he wasn’t 100% healed? Why put a player in the game if a solid hit will reinjure?

      We saw Boston do it last year in the playoffs as well, to the point that Bergeron required a lengthy hospital stay because he NEVER should have been in those games. I don’t think Loui should have been playing either. At some point, it’s negligence. Don’t blame Orpik for it, or the Pens organization.

      I’ve always heard Boston fans talk about how ‘tough’ they are, when big hits are delivered. Orpik’s hit is exactly what Boston fans crave…just not against Boston players. The rest is a moot point, Bruins fans credibility was destroyed years ago on these matters.

      • bmurph - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

        Hockey412…you are so insufferable. You try to present yourself as a knowledgeable hockey fan but really you no better than most of the trolls on this site. I would really love to know which team you root for. But you probably won’t reveal that because I can then point out numerous times someone from that team did something dumb, and get to call you out for being the hypocrite you really are. The way you paint Boston and it’s fan’s with a broad brush is no better than most of the yahoo’s on here, you just act like its better because you have the ability to put together a few sentences.

        Calling Thorton “scumbag goon with about as high an IQ” shows exactly what type of yahoo you really are. Even if the hit on Eriksson wasn’t a legal hit, I still would not condone what Thorton did. But to sit there and act like Thorton, after roughly 9 years and almost 1000 penalty minutes, without ever being suspended, should be thrown out of the league is as big of a trolling yahoo statement as I have ever heard.

        Again, just to repeat, I DO NO CONDONE WHAT THORTON DID, but just because he is appealing the suspension, does not mean that he is any less sorry for his actions. That is his simple right, according to the NHL’s CBA. He is not trying to defend what he did and say that he was in the right to do that, but again, simple union regulations afford him that right. At the end of the day, all he is trying to do is to be able to recoup some of the lost money that he lost. I would assume if you were in his position, you would also take every available step possible to try and limit what you would lose. If you say anything otherwise, you are flat-out a liar.

      • titansbro - Dec 20, 2013 at 5:02 PM

        Don’t blame Orpik for hitting him in the head? OK. I actually halfway agree with you. If Eriksson isn’t fully healed, he shouldn’t be out there. We said the same thing about Crosby when he took the puck in the face. It seemed as though Pitt rushed him back out there & then was critical of players for brushing his cheek. So in that regard I agree with you. But that doesn’t mean you shoulder check him in the face to test it. We in Boston, as in most hockey cities, do want hard hits. We just want clean hits.

      • montrealbbr - Dec 20, 2013 at 6:13 PM

        If you arent fully healed from a concussion you cant get involved in a game with Pitt. Boston and Pitt are two of the dirtiest teams going and you cant expect the game to end without some big issue.

        I cant believe that boston would let a guy back on the ice who still had concussion problems. Boston is just bad news all around and I bet Seguin is glad to be out of that hell hole!

  14. dboldave - Dec 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    Where has it been said that Eriksson was still hurt when he was playing in that game? I haven’t read that anywhere.

  15. bmac17 - Dec 20, 2013 at 9:07 PM

    The hit from Orpik was not clean and anyone trying to argue it as so is clearly a Pens fans. It was borderline at best as many have said but it sure as heck was not clean. And just because the NHL didn’t give a suspension for the hit doesn’t mean that it was clean either, as Pittsburgh and Boston fans will recall Matt Cooke did not get suspended for his head shot on Savard (a hit that ended a career ). And the ‘that was a clean hit too’ will start coming in 3, 2, 1….

  16. shaundre93 - Dec 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    If we’re gonna call that hit clean, then whatever. BUT, when Sid or one of the other untouchables in Pitt get lit up like this, I expect to have pens fans lining up on this site to tell us all how clean of a hit it was. Does Orpik have an obligation to fight? 99% of the time, no. But clearly there was intent to injure on that hit. Don’t care if you think its clean or not, you can not argue that Orpik didn’t want to hurt Eriksson. He got the desired result with that hit. If youre going to hit players in that fashion then yes, I believe there is an obligation to drop the gloves after. If he doesn’t want to fight, try just separating the guy from the puck, not obliterating him when he never even had a chance to play it. The two go hand in hand. BTW people, Orpik is in MUCH better shape than Eriksson right now. He’s taking contact at practice while Eriksson has only just begun leaving his house. Clearly no one here actually cares about player safety, or you’d see the merit in Orpik having to be held accountable for that hit.

    Headhunting is the problem with the NHL, not fighting

  17. gmailfan57 - Dec 23, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    Just another day in the WWE. Oh sorry, NHL.

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