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Video: NHL fines Murphy for clipping Dorsett, who calls hit ‘dirty’

Nov 4, 2013, 2:32 PM EST

The NHL has fined Carolina defenseman Ryan Murphy for a clip on Rangers forward Derek Dorsett during the Hurricanes’ 5-1 loss on Saturday.

Here’s video of the play:

Following the game, Rangers head coach Alain Vingeault voiced his displeasure with the hit.

“I mean, in my opinion, that’s real dangerous,” Vigneault said. “Any time you’re going for knees, you’re looking at career-ending injuries here.”

“That was borderline very, very dangerous.”

On Monday, Dorsett spoke about the incident for the first time, as per the Bergen Record

Murphy, who received a minor penalty on the play, will forfeit $2,213.68 in salary, the maximum permitted under the CBA. The money will go to the Players’ Emergency Assistance Fund.

  1. 1337ryan - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    I thought hip checks were still legal when I saw this hit. As a Ranger fan I was happy to get a PP, but I didn’t initially think it was dirty.

    • stakex - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM

      You can throw a hip check, but it has to hit above the knees. Anything lower then that is clipping, a rule that’s been on the books for a long time now.

      From the NHL Rule Book:

      —————–

      44.1 Clipping – Clipping is the act of throwing the body, from any direction, across or below the knees of an opponent.

      A player may not deliver a check in a “clipping” manner, nor lower his own body position to deliver a check on or below an opponent’s knees.

      An illegal “low hit” is a check that is delivered by a player or goalkeeper who may or may not have both skates on the ice, with his sole intent to check the opponent in the area of his knees. A player may not lower his body position to deliver a check to an opponent’s knees.

      ——————————

      If the hit was on the thigh, it would be a perfectly legal hit check. This one was on the knee’s though, so its clipping.

      • 1337ryan - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:15 PM

        Chalk it up to me just not knowing until then.

  2. stcrowe - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    I don’t find it dirty. Also, Murphy is a 20 year old rookie with finesse skills that a lot of players would kill for. It isn’t like he is a no talent thug.

    • elvispocomo - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM

      Doesn’t stop him from going way to low on this attempted hip check.

      If you check the different frames at around the 35 second mark of the video, you can see Murphy is very low before the hit and actually crouches more going into it. You can even see in one of the frames as the initial contact happens that most of Dorsett’s hockey pants are visible and Murphy’s upper doby is bent over to around the knees of Dorsett.

      Sure, Dorsett jumps up to try and avoid it making the outcome a bit more spectacular, but not locking his skates into the ice probably helps prevent any injury. Murphy needs to straighten his legs to raise his hips and torso to a similar level to Dorsett’s hips to make this even close to legal.

  3. storminator16 - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM

    Rangers still crying about this? Geez, who knew Ryan Murphy would get into the Rangers heads over a hit in a game they won 5 to 1. Who knew? Geez.

    Kid got 2 minutes for it. Why the NHL decides to fine him 2 days after the fact is beyond me. Oh, I know why: Rangers continued to complain about it. Really?

    This game is slowly starting to turn into “vagina”.

    • magicrat13 - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM

      rangers are crying?…..coach and player were asked their opinion after the game…coach didn’t say it was dirty just dangerous….dorsett said it was dirty but that is debateable….it only became an issue again because of the ruling….don’t like it being brought up again blame the reporting…

    • hockey412 - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:27 PM

      Any game of “vagina” that involves two minutes, $2,213.68, and the risk of bodily injury is not something that I want to play.

      Might make for good television, though.

      • xdj511 - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:34 PM

        If there’s a risk of bodily injury, you’re probably doing it wrong.

    • Anoesis - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:56 PM

      So you think the game is tougher than ever? ‘Cause a vagina can take a pounding.

      • storminator16 - Nov 4, 2013 at 10:07 PM

        That is true.

  4. billyhauntswizards - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM

    Totally dangerous hit by Murphy that could’ve really hurt Dorsett. However I didn’t think this was suspension worthy, I’m glad it’s just a fine.

  5. upper90cheese - Nov 4, 2013 at 2:57 PM

    Good call by the on ice officials and the Shannabanner. He went down on his knees to make the hit, thats when it ceased to be a hip-check. The point of impact was below Dorsetts knees, making it a clip.

    You can defend against a headshot by keeping your head up. There is no way to defend against a guy diving at your knees at the last second.

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  7. lordfletcher - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    3,6,9 damn your fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time

    Get low, Get low
    Get low, Get low
    Get low, Get low
    Get low, Get low

    To the window………

    That was a low hit!!!

  8. flash8910 - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM

    I knew the hip-check was a lost art in the NHL, but all you commenters sound like you have never seen one before.

    Murphy did the right thing. He put himself in the right position. He didn’t attempt a shoulder check, which seems like 99% of the NHL players does today. He put himself in the proper position for a hip-check. I am not sure what Dorsett was doing because any skilled NHL player could see that the defender had the proper angle, and made some kind of move. Dorsett attempted no moves, but tried to skate thru Murphy. He got what he deserved.

    • lordfletcher - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM

      his a$$ nearly set flames to the ice as it was dragging so low.

      yes, the hip check is fading away which is obvious because you clearly can’t tell yourself on what is a hip check and what is clipping.

  9. stakex - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:24 PM

    It was a dangerous, low hit that didn’t result in an injury…. so a fine seems reasonable.

    However, I still can’t get over the fact that the most a player can be fined is $2,213.68, when the minimum NHL salary is north of $525,000 and most players make far more then that. That makes the fine almost irrelevant aside from consideration in future punishment, and causes a huge gap in the severity between fines and suspensions.

    • elvispocomo - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:29 PM

      Absolutely, the fines system needs to be looked at and restructured. Not sure if they can go with ranges at least partially based on salary but increases are overdue.

  10. nj666 - Nov 4, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    so he should have targeted the head instead?

    • elvispocomo - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:34 PM

      I think we can all agree somewhere in the middle is acceptable…

  11. spitfisher - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:11 PM

    I watched a few times,Yes, it was low, but the ranger player looked like he left his feet, adding to flip that occurred.

    • elvispocomo - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:36 PM

      Dorsett does jump, but Murphy is so low that it wouldn’t have mattered if he didn’t. If you try and go frame by frame as the hit develops around the 35 sec mark, you can see before Dorsett’s skates leave the ice that Murphy is coming at his knees.

  12. the1849ers - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:17 PM

    Hit looked fine to me. Dorsett came right at him with the puck and got drilled. What was he supposed to do, let him by?

    • elvispocomo - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:38 PM

      A proper hip check is a hit of timing, perhaps more so than any other hit. You can get low to generate power but you have to extend your legs so your hips come up to the thigh and hip level of the person you’re hitting. Murphy doesn’t do that, actually going lower as the hit occurs when he was already very low.

  13. barkar942 - Nov 4, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=218121

  14. nikolainyr - Nov 4, 2013 at 5:33 PM

    I like hip checks but that was too low.
    Despite Dorsett beginning to jump over, contact was still at the knees. That was Kasparitis level.
    Fine is the right call, borderline dirty, no injury, puts Murphy on the radar if he keeps it up.
    Murphy’s a skill guy who does more damage with his skating so I don’t see him having another conversation with Shanahan anytime soon.
    Also it was only Dorsett on the rush, there was nothing for the Canes to worry about there.

  15. hennessey1200hp - Nov 4, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    Hockey needs more consistent calls on “ALL” hitting at all these days. Murphy had a right to that lane which Dorsett wanted and he paid the price for, what about going after a player every time someone gets checked…it is getting old. Curt Giles made a living with hits like this.

    • storminator16 - Nov 5, 2013 at 9:18 PM

      Right on.

  16. 7mantel - Nov 4, 2013 at 7:49 PM

    Low hit ! No way a hip check !

  17. scottybcboy - Nov 4, 2013 at 7:54 PM

    Why did Marchand get 5 games for a clip and Murphy gets a fine? Both hits were at (or just above) the knees and neither resulted in a knee injury. Neither player had a ‘history’ at the time.

  18. storminator16 - Nov 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Murphy just said “screw you all” and just did another hip check in tonight’s game versus Philly. Kid has balls and personality.

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