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No hearing scheduled for Chara after Wingels hit

Oct 25, 2013, 11:04 AM EDT

Zdeno Chara is not scheduled to face a disciplinary hearing for his hit on San Jose forward Tommy Wingels during Thursday’s 2-1 win, a league spokesman has confirmed.

The incident occurred late in the first period. Chara caught Wingels with what appeared to be a high hit, one that forced Wingels from the contest entirely. Chara wasn’t penalized on the play:

Following the game, Sharks head coach Todd McLellan offered a measured response to the hit, noting that he didn’t have a good angle to see it, which made it difficult to judge.

“You know what, every time somebody is hit now we quickly run to the video and we analyze – was it legal, was it illegal? It’s a hard game, and it’s played by hard players that have to get involved physically night in and night out,” McLellan told CSN Bay Area. “They have to take some lumps, too. We have to give some lumps, we have to take some lumps.

“If it’s dirty, I think it should be severely dealt with. If it’s hard hockey, then so be it.”

According to David Pollak of the San Jose Mercury News, the Sharks didn’t provide an update on Wingels’ condition following the game and are unlikely to give one today, as the club is having an off-day in Montreal.

Wingels, 25, is in his fourth season with the Sharks and enjoying a stellar campaign. He had two goals and six points in nine games heading into Thursday’s action.

  1. sjtorpitt - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    I haven’t seen it, but this doesn’t surprise me. I don’t view big Z as a dirty player.

    • dchambers144 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:22 AM

      @sjtorpitt- Your comment is a little off point. Being a dirty player has nothing to do with a potentially dirty hit (I haven’t seen a real good replay to make a decision). That’s like saying Jonathan Toews shouldn’t be suspended if he flying elbows someone in the head just because “he’s not really a dirty player”.

      • kaptaanamerica - Oct 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

        Surprise surprise. Edler gets suspended along with a bunch of other guys in the league for similar accidental high hits, yet chara who happens to play for the Bruins goes without punishment. I guess it’s not like chara broke the back of a guy in a vulnerable position or anything, in which case you would expect punishment.

        oh but didn’t the Bruins player do that and not get suspended?? Boychuk on Raymond rings a bell, but I guess it’s one of the perks for being a bruin.

      • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM

        Youre right Kaptain, cus Matt Cooke got a huge suspension for ending Savards career, and Tom Sestito was punished for severely re-concussing Horton. Remember that time scott walker broke aaron wards face with a sucker punch, then got the series clinching goal the next night? Even bergerons concussion is comparable to this. youre soooo right, the Bruins get all the breaks

    • imleftcoast - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

      This double-standard is ridiculous. I hate those San Jose play-by-play guys, but that should be a game. Colin Campbell directing that a##-monkey Shanahan to keep Chara’s record clean.

    • nflfan4now - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:49 PM

      No matter wehat the posters say look at John Scott’s record- he is not a dirty player at all- but one mistake and he’s screwed. Why not Chara?

    • cfol44 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

      Why would there be a hearing? all the comments here are from weaker team fans that dont like the Bruins and want to cry about there teams misfortunes. STOP YOUR BELLY ACHING,

    • defenseman13 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

      If you haven’t seen it, STFU. You’re a moron.

      And as a Sharks fan, obviously I didn’t like the end result of this game. BUT… this should have been a penalty. Period. There was no call for this OR Chara’s high stick across Hertl’s teeth. Two non calls.

      That’s all I really look for, honestly. It’s anybody’s guess what that idiot Shanahan is going to call from one game to the next. I’ve seen him toss out 3 game suspensions this year like candy for identical hits that receive no suspensions, much less a penalty. This league is jacked right now.

  2. freneticgarfieldfan - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Wow, and I thought Jack Edwards is a “homer”. But he sounds like an “altar boy” compared to those commenters.

    • defenseman13 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:37 PM

      You are clearly a moron.

  3. faustandrew - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    I watched this game last night, he should have got a couple called against him, especially that cheap-shot against Hertl where he crosschecked him in the face. That was amazing that it wasn’t called.

    He is aging at a rapid pace and the only thing he has going for him is his size and shot.

    I know a bunch of Bruins fans are going to lose it after reading this, I am not biased against Boston I like Lucic, Marchand and Berg, but I don’t respect Chara.

    • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM

      No, that’s fair. You don’t have to like him, hes no angel. Its just frustrating that people are just gonna say chara = scott. Its just not true

      • tdsnbeers - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

        It doesnt matter how true or not that you think it is. They are both similar in size and it’s ridiculous that the league treats one more biasly than the other will be treated, they are picking and chosing who they want to enforce suspensions on. I don’t care the skill or relative importance to their respective teams, I believe regardless what their contract size is or how much, they should all be treated similar because they are all players in the same league. How does the league expect to get rid of this stuff when they completely look the other way for certain players’ hits meanwhile enforcing the one’s they feel like. I am a sabres fan and feel that Kaleta & John Scott are easy pickings/targets for Shanahan and it isn’t going to effect anyone if they get suspended. Scott is not a dirty player at all, he is a fighter but that is well known, he is not a Kaleta or Avery going out there to cheap shot someone. Before you make fun of me for being a Sabres fan – I haven’t been really watching the sabres this year because they and myself intend on them ending up near or on the bottom to finally land a top 3 pick, plus our GM (Regeir) has to go…

      • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

        I get what youre saying beers, but the league isn’t blind. While I agree this hit warrants punishment, the fact of the matter is Chara is not out there to target people. He just tried to finish his check and made head contact.

        Meanwhile in Buffalo… They cant win, cant score. They have already had multiple disciplinary issues. Scott himself has had issues prior to this. Scotts hit on Eriksson is the reason he was employed by the sabres. Not that hit specifically obviously, but for that style of play. Down by two in the third and Scotts on the ice? I have no doubt Scott was put on the ice to cause trouble. Did he want to severely hurt Eriksson? I doubt it, but I bet Rolston was happy with the result. (non-objective side note, Rolston looks like a total weasel) On two occasions now this season Scott has targeted a star player. There is just no need for that in the game. There are plenty of tough customers out there who actually can play and play the right way. I honestly believe Scott does not have the skill needed to play safely at his size. Scott hit Eriksson the way he did cus that’s the only way he can hit. He cant catch anyone. He’s not agile enough, its easy to duck around him. So he sees a defenseless player and hes thinking, “Ill get a big hit to get the team going!” and BOOM there goes Eriksson. Not cause scott wanted to kill him, because that’s the only way he can “help” his team. IMO that is just as dangerous as a player with malicious intent

    • pepper2011 - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM

      I have to disagree with you. Chara is not aging rapidly. I thought he did tire a little in the playoffs last year, but he was still very much elite. Toronto, NYR, PITT and CHI have some mighty formidable offenses.

      What they did to Pitt last year does not happen with a rapidly aging defenseman. In fact no I don’t think Pitt was shut out all year heading into the playoffs and they certainly didn’t lose 4 in a row.

      It is very very dangerous to say all he has is his shot and size. There are a dozen or so D men who come pretty close that you wouldn’t mention in the same category. I also think his shot hurts him more than it helps. Sure, it great in the all-star competition, but you usually don’t get that kind of time to unload a shot; he also isn’t all that accurate with it. Most Boston fans would rather see Hamilton, Krug or Boychuck unloading from the point. He isn’t even playing point the PP- they have him at the top of the crease.

      I don’t think the hit on Wingles was dirty or high. He kept his elbows down and didn’t target the head. He is bigger so he sort of didn’t give his head room to move about freely. WIngles was hurt by the Hamilton hit earlier in the game. I still haven’t seen a good angle, but from what I can see; he kept his elbow down and any contact was made with his chest to head, but I still think it was more of a bounce off the boards into his chest. Like I said; the angle in the video is terrible, but I see arms down and he squished him. I think wingles reacted that way because Hamilton already hurt him and he was trying to gut it out.

      I do think he should have got 2 for the Hertl cross check, but I bet you could have made a call when Iginla got mugged while battling for the puck. Not making excuses; it was a penalty, but that’s hockey. The sharks were buzzing the crease all night and kennedy hit Rask on the first play of the game, and only the B’s were penalized.

  4. sjsharks66 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Awkward situation. Wingles tries to skate by Chara and Chara comes up a little high. Hope Wingles does not miss much time.

    • pepper2011 - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

      Thank you. It is refreshing to hear an actual unbiased opinion that isn’t claiming dirty just cause a Bruin is involved. I thought he actually got hurt when Hamilton hurt him and the Chara play just made it impossible to ignore.

      See you in the Cup finals

      That’s one good team you got; Stole 2 points. Sharks deserved better, can’t imagine if Boyle and Burns were in the lineup.

  5. spitfisher - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    I agree he’s not a dirty player, he’s big, he’s tall and he’s fit.There should not be a hearing, there were two referees facing the hit. looks as though he either slipped or tried to go under to avoid the hit. Its unfortunate

    • timmons94 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM

      are u kidding me ??? Chara is one of dirtiest players in NHL. He slashes at least 10 times a game…Great player, but very dirty. That was a typical Chara shot, dude is 10 feet tall, I saw no elbows, seems clean to me. He is dirty, but that wasn’t IMO. What is wrong with Marchand…. off to bad start

      • rrsm53 - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:12 PM

        your a tool Chara is a dirty player. yeah ok dont know what hockey games you watch time to go get your eye exam cause your blind. Watch the replay Wingels can see chara coming at him and he leans forward 6’9 against what maybe 5’11 player where would your elbows and arms be. You must be a montreal fan and poor Maxy Pad who get hit into the support pole. Get over it.

    • imleftcoast - Oct 25, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      That puck is long gone. It’s a dirty hit, and Shanahan playing favorites again loses all credibility.

      • jkibler1 - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM

        Rrsm53, are you THAT much of an idiot? So then the Scott hit must be ok for you as well since Scott is probably the same siZe as chara? And even though I am no fan fan of Montreal, your shot at the Montreal player who suffered a severe injury just shows that you have absolutely no class my guess is, that player is a million times tougher than you could ever dream to be. Wouldn’t it be interesting to see how ” poor maxi rrsm53 ” would do with a fractured spine!! My guess is you would be crying like a girl for the rest of your life. Of course if it were from a hit delivered by a 6’9″ guy, it would be just fine!!
        Get over it

  6. dasportsninja - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Chara is not afraid to concuss a defenseless player. The difference between Chara and John Scott is skill. Chara is an Elite Level potential Hall of Fame Defense-man. If that hit comes from Colton Orr, Pat Kaleta or any 3rd/4th line player, they would get 2 games or more depending on how bad they suck and how “skilled” the player they hit was.

    • greenmtnboy31 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:30 AM

      Agree with most everything except the comment about Chara being elite level. He’s slow and works like a pylon out there. He’s one of the primary reasons Chicago won the Cup with him on the ice for their last 12 goals.

      Chicago said they would go after him, Boston knew it, but couldn’t do anything about it.

      Game, set, match, Chicago.

      • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM

        You’re just obnoxious. Cant you grow up and just have a normal conversation instead of screaming to the world that you’ve been a blackhawks fan for 6 months

      • greenmtnboy31 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:55 AM

        Not a Blackhawks fan, but loved watching them expose this pylon.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

        exposing a pylon will get you arrested in most places.

      • pepper2011 - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:06 PM

        can you explain what he did to the penguins then? Chicago is a real good team, and I wouldn’t say they exposed him. He didn’t have his best series, but the he and the Bruins were real beat up.

        He still had 15pts in 22g and +20 for the the playoffs. That’s against PITT, TOR, NYR and CHI. 3 of the top 5 offenses in the league.

        That Pylon has got us to a Cup two of three years and they are certainly poised to make another run at it.


        I guess our Pylon is better than yours.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:53 PM

        pepper pwn.

      • theskinsman - Oct 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

        Actually the pylon was Jagr. Chara was either gassed or hurt in the finals, Chicago did out hit and out hustle him, and he never resorted to cheap hits as a defense.I think that clarifies he isn’t remotely dirty.

      • Moop - Oct 26, 2013 at 4:00 PM

        Chara was dealing with a hip pointer, among other minor injuries, during the Cup Finals. He and Seidenberg were beat up and therefore slower, not able to handle Chicago’s fast paced offense.

    • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM

      The difference is intent. Chara has played a LOT more hockey than those two combined. He is bigger and stronger than both of them. It’s not just 3rd/4th liners, it’s players with a reputation. If Scott doesn’t attack Kessel in the preseason, I guarantee that play the other night is viewed differently. Scotts reputation is what got him in trouble. Then you have Chara, who like I said is bigger, stronger, plays more and has little to no reputation of cheap shots. Pacioretty is known to be an accident, unless you just have blind hatred for the Bruins. The Hertl high stick wasn’t even bad. Yeah, he shoulda got two, but that stuff happens all the time, not just with chara.

      • hockey412 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:47 AM

        The Pacioretty incident is NOT viewed to be an accident, and by many people who do not live in Montreal. The only people that really felt that was accidental, especially after watching slow-motion of him ramming his head into the stanchion, live in Boston. So you can drop that BS.

        Intent may go into the length of suspension, but should not go into whether the league decides to look at it. And you can also make an argument about intent. There are a lot of choir boys on that Boston team, if you ask the residents of Boston….

      • johnscottforpresident - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM

        hey shaundre the moron, Scott didn’t attack Kessel….and the only rep he has is being one of the biggest hitters and top fighters in the league. He’s never been suspended before for any dirty hits or cheap shots. This is his first incident. He is not a past offender.

        Watch the video….Kessel raised his hands first when they lined up. Scott said to him, “well, looks like we’re gonna have to go”, and Kessel, scared out of his mind, then lifted his arms up to the side of Scott’s head. Scott, like any player does, raised his hands, and then all of a sudden had two guys trying to take him down while Kessel was two hand swinging his stick not once, not twice, but three times at Scott’s ankles/legs. So…again, you’re a moron for making that comment as it would have no bearing on this. Scott beat him with words in that instance, not fighting or a dirty hit, etc.

        ps – Kessel is an embarassment as an American born hockey player for the incident above.

      • pepper2011 - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:18 PM

        Actually Scott dropped the gloves and attacked Kessel. Absolutely no doubt about it. Gloves off trying to grab him. It’s a joke. Scott is a joke. good for Kessel. I know your team sucks and all you have is a pro wrestler on skates, but as a season ticket holder; I am dropping money to see guys like Kessel and Eriksson play, not John Scott. I can go watch guys like that for free at the local rink. I want to see talent; if I wanted to someone like scott play I would buy wrestlemania tickets… (does that still exist?)

      • pepper2011 - Oct 25, 2013 at 3:20 PM

        He also does not have a rep of being a big hitter.
        a great fighter, yes.

        he can’t skate well enough to hit well.

        great hitters; Scott Stevens, Kronwall, Lucic, Martin.

    • rabidbillsfan - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

      Skilled or not, it was deserves a suspension if Scott can’t play until they decide his fate. Scott’s never been suspeneded and, sure, he’s a goon who fights, but thats no history of Dirty hits. Chara on the other hand, do we really need to bring up the Montreal incident? Now, I know from the last comments I made on scott from the other thread, everybody jumped all over me for the video, so let’s see if I got this right. Pucks behind the net, about the same distance the puck was when Scott hit Lou. Chara Stopped his feet, no follow through. Wingles head was up, saw the hit coming. Chara extends his stick in both hands to the head or neck area. Unnecesary, reckless, and shows how bush leauge the NHL is. Scott caugh Lou with the upper part of his arm, no elbow. (It could be considered close, but if we are basing suspensions off of “Close”, then it’s fixed) I don’t see a diffrence, both players left the ice except Wingels was able to go on his own power after stumbling. Talent has nothing to do with it, it is clearly about the size of ones brain, apparently. And Chara just put himself into the same category that everybody thnks Scott is.

  7. buddysguys - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:22 AM


    • greenmtnboy31 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:31 AM

      Chara isn’t tough enough to be a goon. A goon will fight anyone, anytime. Chara doesn’t like fighting unless it’s someone smaller than him. He avoided Laracque, Brashear and avoids Scott like the plague.

      • abe01225 - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:16 PM

        Everyone is smaller than him. And perhaps you should ask David Koci (6’6″ 238#) how tough Chara is. That dude still isn’t breathing right.

  8. shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    I don’t think this means he wont be suspended, itll just be less than 5. Full disclosure, I am a Bruins fan. My honest opinion is that this was a bad hit by a good player. It happens. I think a couple games would be fair.

    I do not like that this is so closely compared to the Scott hit, its a totally different situation.

    Chara is not a dirty player. If he was truly as dirty as some of you think, with his size, strength and athleticism, he would have injured a lot more people.

    I also don’t like the scrutiny PHT has put on this. That original report felt like an attack on Chara to create controversy. Im surprised they didn’t have a direct link to the scott hit on the page. Very biased video

    It was a bad hit, it should be reviewed, but to compare this to the garbage that is Kaleta and Scott is just asinine.

  9. sjsblitz - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:29 AM

  10. greenmtnboy31 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:52 AM

      • matt14gg - Oct 25, 2013 at 4:21 PM

        Wow that’s weird, I watched the video assuming players were going to criticize Chara. Most of the players (Lupul, Komisarek, Enggland) actually defend Chara. In fact Lupul pretty much says he didn’t think it was bad hit and it was ridiculous that the police were getting involved.

        By the way the Pachioretty hit is one of the most overblown plays in the history of professional sports. It was an unfortunate incident with zero intent, and the province of Quebec embarrassed itself by threatening legal action. The fact is the people of Montreal couldn’t have cared less about player safety, they just wanted a guy they didn’t like punished. If they did truly care about player safety they would have criticized Montreal players (including Pachioretty and Hal Gill) for running guys into the turnbuckle as they had done in the past. It’s funny that it never became an issue until a Canadiens player got hurt.

        History has shown that Montreal Canadiens fans and commentators only worry about player safety when a Hab is lying on the ice.

    • dasportsninja - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:08 PM

      Wow-Chaqra is nastier than I thought. He likes punching dudes on the ground.

  11. soro17 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Looks like Wingels tried to duck at the last minute, which is no surprise since is he a cowardly, diving, whinger. Get up against the boards and take the hit.

    • hockey412 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM

      That might be the dumbest interpretion of the video I’ve heard yet. Congrats!

  12. greenmtnboy31 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:34 AM

  13. nhstateline - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    Where’s the intent to injury ? I don’t think there is any. Was Wingles’ back turned and could Chara see the numbers ? Nope. Was Chara’s hit high ? Looks it was. Did Wingles duck and cause that ? Maybe. I don’t think this is clear but I would also be fine if the league had a hearing with Chara and if he ended up getting suspended for a couple of games. As long as this is then done for every similar hit in the NHL moving forward. Sending messages to the players from the league about headshots means sending messages to all players about all headshots. Think about it like a high sticking penalty. Many times players get penalized even when something accidentally happened. They have to control the stick. The same thing should be true with head shots. The rule should be one word: never. And there should be consequences for any player who does it just like there are for players who high stick regardless of the circumstances.

  14. newjerseydevilsfanpuckcollection - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    Unfortunately this comes to no surprise that Chara will not be disciplined.

    Yes his size does cause him to hit a little higher than say a player who is around the 6′-0″ mark.

    However at the same time, should he not be in control of himself?

    If a player does not control his stick and high sticks say a player that is Gerbe’s size, would it not hit most other players in the chest? But it still a high stick…right.

    Why should Chara get away with a high hit because of his size?

    I have seen this occur on multiple occasions where Chara’s sheer size and strenght has caused injury…Wingles is just another victim. Pacioretty was another victim. Miroslav Satan was another victim etc…. The list goes on and on.

    But I guess the leauge sees Chara as an asset, where players other players are disposable and can be suspended for their actions.

    • mpops86 - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      He controls himself by not viciously ripping guys’ heads off. If he really wanted to hurt guys, he’d leave a double-digit body count every season. The amount of restraint he shows is actually astounding.

      • newjerseydevilsfanpuckcollection - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM


        Take a look at some of the videos supplied in this comments section.

        I take it you are a Bruins fan?

        Yes if Chara was “allowed” to run like an animal in every single game he would hurt a lot more. Hence the reason there a rules in the game of hockey. However his size should not be the factor which diferenctiates the outcome of suspension or not. Its the manner in which you act.

        Take a player such as Hal Gill, close to the same size and strenght as Chara, yet does he pull bad checks that injur players?

        He may not eb the same callibre of player as Chara, but should be looked as an example, that you can control yourself if you are that size.

        If Gill were to have been the one delivering a hit like that….I would bet that a hearing would be scheduled, or the least a 2 game suspension.

        The league needs to put its foot down on ANY head shot. Be it from a smaller player or larger player, or 4th lines to elite defenceman.

        Maybe the league should implement a rule, where any injury is a match suspension for any head shot.

  15. stakex - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    I can’t stand Chara, but there should be nothing from this.

    This is another one of those situations when a guy who’s much taller (9 inch difference between the two) is hitting a guy who attempts to duck under it. I’m not saying taller players are free to target the head of shorter players, but they should be given some leeway. So long as there isn’t any lunge at the head, the elbow is kept down, and they don’t leave their feet the hit should be considered clean…. and I don’t see any of that in this hit.

    Attempts to duck under hits should also be taken more into account then they currently are. Coming in at someone full speed its almost impossible to adjust if they try to duck past the hit. Currently its only taken into account if the action happens a split second before the hit, but I think the league needs a physics lesson about momentum.

    • thesportsjudge - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM

      I don’t always agree with your posts/point of view, but this seems to be the most calm reaction so far. You state you can’t stand Chara and then explain why you think nothing should come from the Wingels incident. I applaud your post, and think more people are down-voting it out of spite for sounding intelligent.

      • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        You are spot on. Everyone on these threads likes to say the bruins get preferential treatment and the fans are whiners. It sounds to me like they’re the whiners. This was a boderline hit that has been blown WAY out of proportion because of the Scott incident.

        I thank both of you for your objectiveness on the topic

      • thesportsjudge - Oct 25, 2013 at 4:43 PM


        All the credit goes to stakex. I didn’t add any opinion about the play(I haven’t seen it. Don’t have cable, and my pc is like a throwback to the 14.4k days….video is unwatchable). So as much as I would like to take even a little bit of credit, I can’t. I wanted to let stakex know I thought their post was great.

      • jkibler1 - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:22 PM

        Sounds like the 3 of you ought get a hotel room. Again

      • thesportsjudge - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:47 PM

        Clearly you are used to this site being 100% troll based(yes, I definitely include myself in there) and are uncomfortable with honesty and compliments.

      • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 9:13 PM

        @Jk, sounds like youre the reason I feel the need to compliment people on reasonable, unbiased posts. It’s refreshing to hear actual opinions as opposed to the off topic slander that usually occurs

  16. sharksfan97 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Love Wingels. Hope he’s ok. Developing into a Pavelski like find.

  17. bleedingteal4life - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Sharks players are dropping like flies. I wonder if the team will ever be whole again. Such a hard fought loss for the sharks last night. It was pretty devastating to see that last goal. Boston’s players seem to be a foot taller than the sharks. They looked tiny in comparison. I’m not a chara fan after last night.

  18. voltron217 - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    This is why the NHL is a joke of a league. Whether you like Scott or not his he isn’t a dirty player hes a fighter. His hit maybe was late but not cheap. It shouldn’t matter the quality of the player making the hit or recovering the hit. Until its called gairly across the boards these plays will still happen frequently.

    • storminator16 - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:37 PM

      Exactly, there is a clear double standard here. Guys need to start playing the puck, period. If not, slow the game down. The league is just asking for the same kind of lawsuit retired NFL players tried against the NFL. Wow, “hockey people” really need to examine and asses how they want to play all of this.

      If a Cody Mcleod, a Pat Dwyer, or a Colton Orr made this hit they would get 5 games. I’m not happy about this.

      • storminator16 - Oct 25, 2013 at 12:38 PM


  19. thesportsjudge - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    There really is a double standard with the commenters. Most seem to want Chara suspended, but not Scott.

  20. nhstateline - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    As for Gerbe, I like him. He’s got the guts to fight anyone and he can play a little. He’s fought, Mr. Chara for example something that the supposed tough guy on the Sabres, John Scott has no interest in. He’d rather take on real heavyweights like Phil Kessel and Loui Erikkson. Trouble with fighting Mr. Chara is there’s some shot John Scott might get hit very hard back. He doesn’t seem too interested in that. Gerbe, on the other hand, dude has heart and drive. Buffalo could use more guys like him.

    My point with this particular play is this: I’m fine with the league reviewing this as long as they review every subsequent play on every other player in the league that’s like this. All of them.

    Plus, I have ulterior motives, Chara played lots of hockey last year and will play as much or more this year. A few days off won’t hurt him and having him suspended is a way to make Claude give him time off, something Claude doesn’t want to do much of.

    • jkibler1 - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM

      Yeah, chara is real brave. He could have gone with Scott any game last year after Scott destroyed Thornton. And from what posters are saying, hasn’t chara backed out of several fights against some big boys? Oh that’s right, you will hide behind the ” why take him off the ice” excuse. As you claim, grebe doesn’t back down and according to you he has the guts to fight anyone, but your definition of guts must be the same for chara eh?

  21. skr213 - Oct 25, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    This is stupid. Wingels took two dirty hits in this game. Chara cross-checked Hertl to the face. Then he threw an elbow on Wingel’s head. I watched the game – not sure why this video only has the bad angles, they showed it pretty clear during the game and it was very clearly an elbow to the head and NO Wingels didn’t duck, his head went down exactly when Chara elbowed him. Don’t want to get into a whining mentality, but teams have really been taking liberties with the Sharks so far this season and someone needs to do something to stop that.

    • thesportsjudge - Oct 25, 2013 at 4:47 PM

      That’s why they got Brown, no?

      • skr213 - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:32 PM

        I’m guessing he was on a leash last night as it was his first game with the team and it was a tight 1-1 game?

      • thesportsjudge - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM

        Oh, I don’t know. I just assumed they acquired him for general protection, not to goon it up(since goon seems to be the topic of the day.)

  22. hairpie2 - Oct 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    You people are insane. I had to watch that 3 times to see what you might be talking about. there was absolutely nothing wrong with that hit. whats he supposed to do, use bad form and injure himself? get on his knees? and as far as the “crosscheck to the face” you might want to look at that one again too. Hertl was turning toward the net and Chara pushed him away.

  23. travishenryskid - Oct 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    The league is in bed with Boston.

  24. shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 2:29 PM

    I get that people don’t like the chara hit, but it just absolutely boggles my mind why anyone is defending Scott. When good players play hard, bad plays happen. When you put a goon on the ice, who can’t keep up with the game mentally or physically, pointless injuries happen! For me there has to be a double standard here simply because one player does not belong. Chara is basically the new pronger I guess, and that’s ok. But why on earth does John Scott need to be in the NHL? There is no way that guy helps his team, he’s just a side show to distract the fans from how bad they are.

    Everyone wants pointless violence out of the game, and that is all John Scott brings. Like I’ve said, charas not gonna be in the running for the lady byng, but at least he can actually play! I don’t care if chara is suspended, he may deserve it. What’s gonna happen if Scott gets a hold of Crosby or Ovechkin? God knows rolston wont stop him.

    • jkibler1 - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:08 PM

      Sabres fan here. I am perfectly ok with getting rid of Scott IF and that’s a big IF, every goon is booted and that includes the goon who may be on whatever team YOU root for, or for that matter any future goons. And chara does hit to the head from time to time. So who are YOU to decide where the goon line is? Is that line colored in the colors of your team? Are you honest even to call Thornton a useless thug? Like I mentioned, I am a sabres fan and I am ok with Scott going away, can you say the same for yourself with your team? If not, you post hold no water

      • drewsylvania - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:20 PM

        Thornton is twice the player Scott is.

      • shaundre93 - Oct 26, 2013 at 12:00 PM

        But see, thornton is not a useless thug. He is a key member of the most effective 4th line in the NHL. He is adored by the team, and the entire city for his work ethic and willingness to drop the gloves with anyone, including Scott. You know thornton had a 10g season for the bruins a few years back? As in, in around 70 games thornton scored 10x as many G’s as Scott has scored in 180 or whatever. Thornton has 34 for his career. Did you see that goal against Tampa this year? And what star players has thornton gone after? The two are just not comparable

        Can you say any of those things about Scott? Do you think the sabres young guys truly appreciate him as a player or are just embarrassed when he touches the ice? I honestly can not think of another player in the league that even compares to Scott. He is the last of a dying breed, and hockey will be better when he is gone

        At this point, its pointless to argue a sabres vs bruins argument. For me, its about the integrity of the league. John Scott has gotten more publicity on ESPN programming than Sidney Crosby this year. That is a problem. It’s just embarrassing. I had all of these same opinions when I first saw Scott play. His attack on Kessel reinforced how I felt. Now, he has taken one of my teams best players out of the line up for the foreseeable future on a terrible hit. Ive just had enough of it, he needs to go

      • shaundre93 - Oct 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM

        Case and point

      • shaundre93 - Oct 26, 2013 at 12:17 PM

        Im sure ill get a million thumbs down for saying anything good about the bruins, but Shawn Thornton is the model of what todays “tough guys” should be.

  25. bufffalojoe - Oct 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    NHL needs to be consistent, Kaleta does that same hit and would be 2 games min. Look at the boarding from Pouliot no hearing in that either, Kaleta would have been 10games min for that hit.

    • matt14gg - Oct 25, 2013 at 4:28 PM

      Your comment regarding the Pouliot play is ridiculous. Talbot already said he tripped and Pouliot didn’t push him (and the replay clearly supports this). Not only should Pouliot not have been suspended, but he shouldn’t even have gotten a penalty. It was an over reaction by a referee who was reacting to a guy getting hurt and the noise of the crowd.

    • shaundre93 - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      Because of reputation! Kaleta has the worst rep in the league right now, of course he would be punished more severely for the same play

  26. gsprulz - Oct 25, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Unreal for Chara to get off like that. Sickening.

  27. sharksman - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    As a sharks fan I dont think the hit was “dirty” but he does not start to skate towards wingles until the puck is gone, yes part of the reason the hit was high was due to the size but he shouldnt have hit him in the first place. The hit was late end of story. Yes i think it is a double standard for stars than for other players but it reminds me of the thorton suspension from a few years ago, thorton was skating accross the ice and hit the av’s player (well the av’s player ran into his shoulder) and knocked him cold, he didnt raise a elbow but still was suspended 3 gams. The avs player had a responsibility to watch where he is going but so did thorton, thats why he was suspended (in my humble opinion) it is not always about the hit but weather or not he should make the hit. I feel that chara should not have made the hit period. As far as the high stick to hertle , that happens all the time by almost all players, yeah he hit him in the face but it wasnt intentional (he was just giving him a little tap at the end of the play lol) the hit should have got him 2 min but it wasnt called so lets move on.
    Could chara been suspended 3 games on the hit to wingles, sure
    should he have been called a charging or boarding penalty, sure
    but no one should be surprised by shanny not suspending him
    the fact is it will never be a simple call
    so lets move on
    I personaly am more upset about them blowing it with .8 seconds left

  28. jkibler1 - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:00 PM

    Hey shanny, fix your lipstick, it is smeared

  29. endusersolutions2013 - Oct 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM

    Last year in the finals, Chara hits Toews in the corner, and as Toews is going down, Chara adds a forearm to Toews head. Clearly intentional.

    The refs and the league did and said nothing.

  30. drewsylvania - Oct 25, 2013 at 10:15 PM

    Everyone’s trying to pin Chara. It’ll never happen because he hasn’t done anything to earn the label of “dirty”.

    • shaundre93 - Oct 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM

      Anyone who tries to bring up Pacioretty should refer to the video I posted. Butthurt fans are the only people who think that was an intentional, dirty play

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