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MacArthur: Not many have a relationship with Leafs coach Carlyle

Oct 5, 2013, 5:02 PM EDT

Randy Carlyle AP

Clarke MacArthur is getting ready for his first regular season game against the Toronto Maple Leafs squad he left over the summer. The 28-year-old forward had 62 points in 2011-12, but he fell in the Leafs’ depth charts while working under coach Randy Carlyle.

Now that he’s a member of the Ottawa Senators, he doesn’t plan to talk with his former bench boss.

“I didn’t have a relationship (with him) and not many guys do,” MacArthur told Sportsnet. “It’s one of those things where he runs the show there and everyone knows that and that’s the way it is.

“It’s worked for him in the past, he’s got a (Stanley) Cup from that, but at the same time there’s other ways to do things, too.”

MacArthur explained that he felt Carlyle only talked to him when the coach had criticisms to offer and that got grating.

“You’re old enough to know (you) made a mistake,” MacArthur said. “You don’t need to hear it every five seconds.”

He’s not the only one that’s publicly vented about Carlyle. Mikhail Grabovski was far harsher in his assessment after the Maple Leafs bought him out.

Grabovski also saw his playing time drop under Carlyle and signed with the Washington Capitals over the summer. He’s gotten off to a hot start with them with three goals and five points in two games.

At the same time, not all of Carlyle’s former players feel as negatively towards him. MacArthur’s teammate Bobby Ryan felt like his was a scapegoat at times for Carlyle when he was coaching the Anaheim Ducks, but in retrospect Ryan has softened his view.

“He’s a tough coach,” Ryan said last month. “I do still really owe him quite a bit for becoming the player I am. That isn’t lost on me one bit.”

  1. dirtyback - Oct 5, 2013 at 5:23 PM

    Just play better Clarke and maybe you wont hear it.

  2. chef24g - Oct 5, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    Love the big babies in the NHL that need a coach to baby them… You make a lot of money and all you do is complain because he is not your friend…. Coach is there to bring discipline not to breast feed you…

  3. letsgopens8771 - Oct 5, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    I am so tired of hearing players bad mouth their former coaches. At the end of the day, that doesn’t matter. It matters what kind of a difference you make on the ice and how much you produce. Just shut up and play, instead of being a me monster.

  4. canucks30 - Oct 5, 2013 at 7:37 PM

    Scotty Bowman was the same way and he has 13 Stanley Cups.

    • Lupy Nazty Philthy - Oct 5, 2013 at 7:55 PM

      Scotty Bowman, Pat Burns, Mike Keenan, but what do they know?

  5. 19to77 - Oct 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    I’m not impressed by players publically whining about former coaches. People have to deal with sh*tty bosses in real jobs too. I’m sure these pampered millionaires can take a word of criticism here and there in exchange for vast piles of money. Seems like a pretty fair trade.

    That said, that makes at least four former players who have slammed him as soon as one or the other leaves the organization – Lupul (when he went to Philly), Ryan (when Carlyle was replaced), MacArthur and Grabbo. That’s a pretty clear sign. One guy slamming a coach is dismissable. Four? Not so much.

  6. Lupy Nazty Philthy - Oct 5, 2013 at 8:01 PM

    Starting to make sense why the Leafs were so complaisant on the ice for so many years. I always liked MacArthur and Grabovski, but now that they’re gone and they’ve opened then mouths, exposing their true character, you can see who was too busy complaining to listen and learn.

  7. sunderlanding - Oct 6, 2013 at 4:46 PM

    MacArthur is a bum! I’m glad he’s gone. Not enough grit for the bottom six, not enough talent for the top six.

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