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Mike Babcock has some officiating complaints, too

May 29, 2013, 11:47 PM EDT

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The most controversial bit of officiating may have gone against the Chicago Blackhawks in Game 7, but that doesn’t mean that the Detroit Red Wings are too pleased about the way things went, either.

Head coach Mike Babcock noted a significant perceived difference in the way penalties are called in the playoffs vs. regular season, as the Chicago Sun-Times’ Adam Jahns reports.

“If this were the regular season, there’d be a parade to the penalty box for what goes on out there,” Babcock said.

Surely Red Wings fans can clarify this further, but the team was likely upset that Andrew Shaw didn’t receive a penalty for a hit that ended up injuring Valtteri Filppula, among other plays.

(It’s worth noting that Babcock didn’t blame the lack of calls for Detroit’s loss, by the way.)

  1. speedstickmusk - May 29, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    *cough*… non call on Bolland’s hit to head on Nyqvist just before series ending goal…

    • bhawksrule - May 30, 2013 at 12:04 AM

      *cough* … Hawks win series . Beat you twice in Game 7. Love the Detroit tears!

      • speedstickmusk - May 30, 2013 at 12:35 AM

        not a wings fan, just stating that it looked like a significant hit to the head… you know, the ones they claim they want to take out of the game…

      • jterihay65 - May 30, 2013 at 3:57 AM

        What a accomplishment the Hawks made beating a young defenseless bunch of rookies, with only one line, cheap shot by that pimply faced #65 real classy. Don’t cry when the Kings defeat your over hyped Hawks. Hawks win one Stanley Cup in what 50 yrs and your talking smack, when you have won 7 or more Cups then brag until then keep a lid on it JUNIOR>

    • jterihay65 - May 30, 2013 at 4:01 AM

      Wings take the mighty Hawks to 7 games overtime and you guys think you did something what a frigging joke, if the Wings who have only 1 good line can take the Hawks to 7 games what do you think the Kings are going to do, give me a break, plus you have to fly back and forth from LA to that dump you call Chicago. I love L>A> go KIngs go.

      • hockeytown96 - May 30, 2013 at 12:15 PM

        Wow! You said it yourself to make the hawks look really good! The hawks were taken to game 7 by a bunch of defenseless rooks. Way to go Chicago, we did what wasn’t supposed to happen. There was huge doubt of a game 5 in this series. Also, you got lucky with a very cheap penalty shot! Anyone who watches and knows hockey would realize that scoring opportunity was never interfered with. Lets go LA. Show em how good they really are.

      • yankeehawk - May 30, 2013 at 4:58 PM

        he may be pimply faced….but he’s no dirt bag cheap shot artist like Abdelkader….

      • jrhawk - May 31, 2013 at 6:28 AM

        Cheap shots…head shots…unbelievable!
        Bolland’s hit was clean…watch the video!
        Cheap shot by Shaw?…watch it again!
        Stop your damn whining! Your team was up 3-1. Why didn’t they finish it?
        “…a defenseless bunch of rookies…” Why do they let dumbass morons comment on here?

    • philhartmanonic - May 30, 2013 at 9:35 AM

      *cough* no penalty shot when Sharp was hooked while shooting right in front of the net
      *cough* no whistle when Patrick Kane took a high stick to the face while breaking away right in front of the ref

      • jeffchadwick - May 30, 2013 at 9:49 AM

        If you honestly think that should have been a penalty shot, I would strongly encourage you to actually watch more hockey to better familiarize yourself with the game.

      • philhartmanonic - May 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM

        He had broken away, he had a clear scoring opportunity, it was broken up by a penalty, so I’m guessing by “watch more hockey” you mean “learn to root for your team”.

    • imleftcoast - May 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM

      I’m not a fan of either team. The officiating was atrocious. With that said, Wings fans were given a gift with the disallowed goal and even getting to OT. There is no way play should have stopped, and that goal disallowed. Quincey is on his back on the ice. Coincidental minors with under 3 minutes in Game 7? That is maybe the worst calls of the post-season.

  2. mikemj - May 30, 2013 at 12:05 AM

    Babcock’s comments are HILARIOUS. If this series was called like the regular season the Hawks win in five games. That’s an observation, not a criticism of Detroit. They took advantage of the non calls with all their clutching and grabbing and almost won the series with their effort. But the style of officiating, especially early in the series, was in their favor.

    • hockeydon10 - May 30, 2013 at 7:29 AM

      Don’t kid yourself. Great coaches get their players to adjust to the officiating. Babcock got Detroit to go right up to the line. Q-stache did the same thing!

      He’s complaining, just like everyone else has been doing since January, about the inconsistency.

    • auggie1955 - May 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM

      I agree. There is no way Zetterberg would have been allowed to hang all over Toews. They showed replays of Zetterberg holding, hooking. and cross-checking Toews with no penalties called. Babcock knew that was the best way he could slow down the Hawks. Since the officials weren’t calling those penalties, the Hawks had to call on their own enforcers – Bickell and Shaw. How about that hit Bickell put on Kronwall!!

  3. taintedlombardis - May 30, 2013 at 12:09 AM

    If the rules aren’t enforced, is it even Hockey? Games are defined by their rules.

    • bettmanistheworstever - May 30, 2013 at 12:19 AM

      No, it is not. And it’s just awful for kids growing up know playing and following the game. SHAME on the NHL, and their NBC lackeys.

      • natej725 - May 30, 2013 at 2:08 AM

        oh please that was an amazing hockey game to watch and that third period was incredible its playoff hockey with all its tention at its finest to say its sad for our kids to watch oh its setting such a bad example to oppress on todays youth watching this, its PLAYOFF HOCKEY they aren’t going to call every penalty which is basically what babcock was trying to say they let these guys fight for the cup on the ice laying everything on the line, so give me a break todays youth is fine the hockey was fantastic. oh and go wings the future looks bright with all our young talent emerging this playoff season excited for the future ken Holland u r the man continuing to keep this team a cup contender pretty much every year we lose lidstrom and the future doesn’t look as bleak as some may have thought for the red wings

  4. beelza - May 30, 2013 at 12:12 AM

    To the extent which officials impact the outcomes of games is unknown. It is an exercise in frivolity. All teams have complaints against the referee’s, but I try to determine if these team complaints are reasons or excuses.

  5. johnwwt1976 - May 30, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    Where do we see the word CHOKE in the headline here, up 3 games to 1, where is the might Red Wing leadership?

    • hockeydon10 - May 30, 2013 at 7:31 AM

      A 7th seed that was in 10th with a handful of games to go in the regular season pushes the most dominant regular season team since 1996 to game 7 overtime is not the definition of a choke job.

    • comeonnowguys - May 30, 2013 at 9:12 AM

      It was a tie game in overtime (“The Call” notwithstanding). If Detroit scores, on which team do you think the term “choker” would fall? Perspective, please.

  6. johnwwt1976 - May 30, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Where is the headline “Red Wings Wings CHOKE”, bad leadership, don’t be biased James!!!!! Up 3 games to 1, Detroit must blow this team up, living on what they did 6 years ago

    • gospitfires - May 30, 2013 at 11:05 AM

      must be nice to live in your little naive world of ignorance and cluelessness. in some ways i bet it must be liberating to have no idea what reality is and isnt.

  7. kcprof926 - May 30, 2013 at 12:41 AM

    Babcock should watch the slashes and bumps after the whistle Cleary was delivering. It’s over but the refs do stink.

    • themediaisdumberthandirt - May 30, 2013 at 12:43 PM

      was that before or after the hawks kept taking cheap cross checks on his back?

      • jrhawk - May 31, 2013 at 6:34 AM

        You forgot about all the holding and grabbing Zetterberg and Abdelkater got away with.
        Gotta pay attention to the game, fanboy!

  8. bettmanistheworstever - May 30, 2013 at 1:19 AM

    I think a lot of Hawks followers, new or old, might mistake a lot of Wings fans comments as anti-Hawks, when really most Wings fans don;t care much what happens good or bad for the Hawks in this playoff season, and are proud that the young and rebuilt Wings team competed so well and overachieved. The real irritation of Wings fans spills over from years past, when the Hawks almost didn’t exist, and is really with the NHL. And it starts most recently with the Ducks series. Perhaps, in time, you will empathize more. Suerte.

  9. auggie1955 - May 30, 2013 at 2:42 AM

    Babcock has some nerve complaining about a call not being made a Shaw when Filppula was injured. Watch the replay again and you’ll see Zetterberg slashed Shaw right in the groin. It’s too bad Filppula came over and got injured, but did Babcock complain about a call not being made on Zetterberg? Or how about Cleary getting involved from the bench?

    In fact Zetterberg spent so much time holding, hooking, and cross-checking Toews during the series he got distracted and forgot about scoring. Did Babcock have anything to say about that?

    • natej725 - May 30, 2013 at 2:55 AM

      dude besides the goaltenders zetterburg was the best player on the ice all series long hes doing what It takes to win and yes they came up a little short against the heavily favored blackhawks it took an incredible effort from Crawford to win this series for Chicago, zetterburg and datsuyk almost completely shut down kane and toews because they are such complete players and have the hearts of champions

    • comeonnowguys - May 30, 2013 at 9:17 AM

      I agree the amount of obstruction they got away with on Toews was staggering.

      However, you did see what started that whole Fippula incident, right? Shaw camped out in front of their bench and gave Zetterberg a two-handed love tap. No moral high ground to be had by either side in that whole exchange.

    • themediaisdumberthandirt - May 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM

      Refresh my memory, how many goals did the sniveling child Toews score in the playoffs so far?

      • dt58 - May 30, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        More than you…

  10. K-Mac - May 30, 2013 at 3:26 AM

    Coaching 101 in any professional sport anymore includes working the refs before, during and after games. I’m not saying Babcock is right or wrong, but the reality is it doesn’t much matter. Detroit couldn’t score on the power play anyway in this series. Bad calls come and go. It is what it is.

    Chicago was the much more talented team that got a serious wake-up call from Detroit. The Red Wings rode a hot goalie into the playoffs and went further than I expected. They just need to learn how to finish. Watching that OT tonight, they looked out of gas and out of sorts; just didn’t seem to have much of a plan on the ice.

  11. pwt3 - May 30, 2013 at 3:51 AM

    Winners win, losers whine. And doesn’t just go for the coach, but also for the Detroit fans.

  12. FireBettman - May 30, 2013 at 4:55 AM

    Fire Bettman

  13. costmiller - May 30, 2013 at 5:18 AM

    Will ALL of you listen to the press conference and hear the quote in context? He, just like any coach will think about noncalls, but I didn’t think he was complaining when giving the above answer.
    He was being asked about the non-goal maybe being a signal of Detroit good fortune for the night, and first did bring up Zetterberg being tripped before the non-goal as a possible call (in other words, call penalties when it gives the other team a great scoring chance), but only said that for a second, then says he couldn’t see the pileup of the 2 players, saw the replay later, but THEN says it’s hard to officiate in the playoffs, THEN the quote above comes in about how games are called differently in the playoffs, and THEN says the way playoff games are called is a GOOD thing. Even at the end, when he’s asked about the slew foot that took out Filppula, he said to the media, you guys watch the tape and decide.
    If there’s anything that Babcock didn’t do is rant about the refs, nor did he blame the loss on the refs. He’s been levelheaded throughout. If you hate Detroit, I understand, but at least have your facts straight. The penalties were about equal, I could bring up I think a reasonable case for both teams were in the end treated about the same, and that didn’t decide the series. Chicago have better talent decided the series, but barely due to Jimmy Howard.

    • costmiller - May 30, 2013 at 5:19 AM

      Sorry, Chicago “having” better talent

  14. aldub2010 - May 30, 2013 at 5:45 AM

    hey jterihay65 you want to talk about dumps you been to Detroit lately. only city I know with abandoned buildings in their downtown. only one good line well I think every line scored on you in the last 3 games which were all hawks wins.

    • michiganhockey11 - May 30, 2013 at 9:19 AM

      Oh wow, taking a shot at empty buildings of Detroit. How about you come up with something original or relevant? Downtown Fallujah is safer than your southside. I’d be safer on a camel in the desert than in that part of your town. Enjoy the spotlight while you can. 1 cup in 50 years doesn’t make you any more relevant.

      Lot of cheapshots in that exchange between Shaw and Z, but he completely slew-footed Filppula. That move has no place in the game as it’s intent is to put players out, as compared to a shove or groin shot.

    • jeffchadwick - May 30, 2013 at 9:51 AM

      You’ve not been to Baltimore lately, have you?

  15. Chip Caray's Eyebrows - May 30, 2013 at 6:43 AM

    I’d like to thank all participants in this comments section for setting back the written English language by a century or two. Your third grade teachers must be very proud.

    • auggie1955 - May 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM

      Hey Chip, if you want to read something that’s grammatically correct, why don’t you pick up a good book? Or follow the story in the newspaper? Don’t your waste time in sports blogs.

      Nothing gets to me more than someone complaining about grammar in blogs. Chip, I’m sorry if I made any errors, but my editor had the day off.

      • Chip Caray's Eyebrows - May 30, 2013 at 11:45 AM

        If you don’t like my remarks on the inarticulate nature of the site’s commentariat, perhaps you shouldn’t waste your time reading them. Skip past it and read the mouth-breathing drivel of people who would write at something closer to a junior high level if they wanted people to take their opinions a little more seriously.

        See? I can play that game too. GFY.

  16. zeeman911 - May 30, 2013 at 6:44 AM

    Looks good on all you idiot wings fans!!!

    • niobiumh2 - May 30, 2013 at 7:04 AM


      nice to see a team who barely made it the playoffs, knockout the number two seed and take the number one seed to OT in game seven. proud of my young group.

  17. takingbovadasmoney - May 30, 2013 at 7:44 AM

    NBC trolling again…”Surely Red Wings fans can clarify…” You work for the network covering the game, why didn’t an NBC employee ask Babcock for clarification of his comments? If you watched the playoffs and the regular season it was obvious the refs have been inconsistent and allowed more stick work, interference, and physical play. Especially later in games and in series. But, oh yeah, you did hide in the bottom that Babcock didn’t say it cost his team. Might want to chill with the Skip and Stephen A. trolling act.

  18. theageofquarrel - May 30, 2013 at 8:33 AM

    Where was the greatest player in the world Pavel Datsyuk? We keep getting told he is the greatest player ever and he couldn’t rise above everything else and carry this team to the Cup?

    • gospitfires - May 30, 2013 at 11:08 AM

      please leave 1 source who has ever refered to him as the greatest player ever. i got all week to wait. i suspect you wont reply because this statement has never been said.

      • jrhawk - May 31, 2013 at 6:42 AM

        That ridiculous claim belongs to the NHL’s (and the media’s ) pet, Crosby. But, hands down? I’d take one Datsyuk over 10 Crosby’s anytime. That guy’s a wizard!! And I’m a Hawks fan.

  19. blackhawks2010 - May 30, 2013 at 8:48 AM

    Didnt recall Babcock complaining about the officiating for games 3 & 4…..enjoy your golf.

    • michiganhockey11 - May 30, 2013 at 9:23 AM

      Right, and Toews publicly complaining after game 2 of the series is “captain like” behavior right?

      • comeonnowguys - May 30, 2013 at 9:31 AM

        That’s the thing… Toews got blasted for it.

      • michiganhockey11 - May 30, 2013 at 11:14 AM

        Rightfully so, as it was only two games into the series. You want to complain about the refs, that’s fine. Wait to see the body of work over the entire series. I said nothing during the series about the officicating. The series is done and know I will say that it was horrible for both teams. Very inconsistent.

  20. comeonnowguys - May 30, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    I’m not sure Babcock is implying that “parade” to the penalty box would just be Blackhawks. It seemed pretty neutrally-worded.

    • michiganhockey11 - May 30, 2013 at 9:28 AM

      Calls/non-calls for both sides were attrocious the whole series.

  21. malvaren18 - May 30, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    Excellent game Detroit, the better team lost the game.

    • greenmtnboy31 - May 30, 2013 at 10:23 AM

      actually the better team scored two game winning goals.

    • jrhawk - May 31, 2013 at 6:45 AM

      Better team? Why then didn’t they finish it in 6? Get off the bandwagon.

  22. mhaubach - May 30, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Lol, seriously Babcock? While I respect you as a coach, do not act like you are not aware of the “let the boys play” style of hockey predominant in the playoffs. Let the fans complain and coach. Well, I imagine that will have to wait until next year, point still stands. Let’s Go Pens!

    • tescosuicide - May 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM

      If Boston plays “Boston Hockey”, Bettman’s daughter Cindy will be back on injured reserve.

      • independentsparty - May 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

        It’s amusing how many folks think the Cindy meme has any resonance in Pittsburgh. Keep talking. Boston ain’t playing the rags anymore. You’re about to be embarrassed.

      • tescosuicide - May 31, 2013 at 9:55 AM

        Dive and cry? I won’t be embarrassed. 😉

  23. garagehero1 - May 30, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    Ha ha, the Bleakhawks and Reedwings, the two dirtiest teams in the west complaining about officiating. LOL

  24. garagehero1 - May 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM

    Hey, did you like how scumbag abdelkader rubbed his skate against the prone Saad’s head during the scuffle that wiped out Hjalmarron’s goal.

  25. papajack1259 - May 30, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    I believe there should of been a boarding call. Just prior to the winning goal If you call the farce along the benches to remove a winning goal how can you not call the Boarding?
    This group should not ref again……High School maybe but a real shame….

  26. harpdog - May 30, 2013 at 4:22 PM

    from reading all the whining going on between Detroit and Chicago about who got what called and who didn’t get what was not called show just how bad the refereeing is getting. I saw 2 handers to the back of players legs on both teams not called with the ref watching 10ft in front of the play.. I think the refs should only get half pay for the whole playoffs because they only called less than half of the really obvious penalties.
    These 2 dirty team seserve more penalties than were called. In fact, the whole playoofs are about how bad the refs are getting by not calling penalties the same during regular season and the play offs. Hopefully there will be a change this summer when viewing numbers go down for the last 2 series as they are going down now. No one wants to see bad officiated games.

  27. tescosuicide - May 31, 2013 at 10:01 AM

    Yo, I hate refs.. fully. I’m a Flyers fan, comes with the city… but the way it’s been going the past few years with all the fear of lawsuits, I’m surprised we can get through three 20’s with only a handful of calls. My boys play little league hockey and the calls are absolutely insane.. not to mention the world games- Eventually the NHL will be calling penalties like them. That’s when when it’ll be unwatchable.

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