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Big meeting tomorrow in Glendale

May 27, 2013, 1:31 PM EDT

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For those that missed the news over the weekend, there’s going to be a rather important meeting tomorrow in Glendale when the NHL, along with the latest prospective Phoenix Coyotes ownership group, gets together with city councilors to discuss what needs to be done to get the team sold and locked into a lease at Arena.

The key, as it has been in the past, will presumably be the arena-management agreement. How much will the cash-strapped city be willing to pay (some would say “subsidize”) the group led by Alberta investment banker George Gosbee?

Worth noting — when Glendale Mayor Jerry Weiers was elected in November, he had the following message for the Coyotes and the NHL: “Glendale is not your cash register.”

Whether the city is actually prepared to play hardball with the league isn’t clear. We suppose it depends how much financial damage the councilors believe the city would sustain should the Coyotes leave.

Related: Maloney signs long-term contract as Coyotes GM

  1. bigtganks - May 27, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    Stay tuned for more of the same run-around and deadlines with no teeth!

  2. valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 27, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    What is it that we’re not getting? Why is keeping this franchise in Phoenix such a priority for GB? It just doesn’t make financial sense, unless…. they don’t want the revenue share to increase should this team be in a real hockey market. Could it be that it’s more profitable for the NHL to leave the team there? Or, does GB owe someone in Phoenix who made him a favor allowing him to net mucho bucks? You know how politicians can be at times.

    • valoisvipers - May 27, 2013 at 2:40 PM

      I’m just guessing here but maybe it has something to do with geographical TV rights(deals) as they do indeed seem hell bent on keeping the team there in Glendale. I just hope that they resolve the ownership and arena issues quickly so that the Yotes can move forward with some stability in ownership and that will help the fan base grow as it is hard to cheer for a team that may or may not be around next season.

  3. lonespeed - May 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM

    If they are having this meeting then they should invite all 19 Phoenix Coyote fans. It is only fair they have a voice. By the way, RIP Pedro…you would have been 20.

  4. innout10 - May 27, 2013 at 2:55 PM

    Amidst all the “issues,” the coyotes averaged more PAID tickets than Dallas, Columbus, Islanders, and Panthers last year and the season ticket base is larger than it’s been since their inaugural season in Phoenix in 1996… The interest in the team has never been higher and I bet 10-12 of the teams in the league are envious of their on ice performance with 3 consecutive playoff appearances, a division title, and a west finals appearance in the last 4 years. Get used to it, the coyotes won’t be moving anywhere.

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 27, 2013 at 6:06 PM

      Not sure where your getting your numbers from.

      2000-01 27th 14,224 per game ahead of Anaheim, Carolina, and the Islanders

      2001-02 29th 13,165 per game ahead of Anaheim

      2002-03 29th 13,229 per game ahead of Islanders

      *2003-04 19th 15,467 per game ahead of Buffalo, Boston, Atlanta, New Jersey, Anaheim, Islanders, Washington, Chicago, Nashville, Carolina, and Pittsburgh

      2004-05 no season

      2005-06 22nd 15,582 per game ahead of Atlanta, Anaheim, Nashville, New Jersey, St. Louis, Washington, Chicago, and Islanders.

      2006-07 24th 14,988 per game ahead of Boston, Washington, New Jersey, Chicago, Islanders, and St. Louis. An average of 85.6 percent full (23rd in NHL) ahead Boston, Florida, Islanders, Washington, New Jersey, Chicago, and St. Louis

      2007-08 29th 14,829 per game ahead of the Islanders, and they ranked 24th in pecent full ahead of St. Louis, Anaheim, Washington, Chicago, Columbus, and Florida.

      2008-09 28th 14.875 per game ahead of Atlanta and Islanders. They ranked 27th in capacity ahead of Florida, Islanders, and Atlanta.

      2009-10 30th dead last 11,989 per game. 68.5% full dead last in the league

      2010-11 29th 12,188 per game. 71.2% full both categories ahead of only the Islanders

      2011-12 30th dead last 12,420 per game, 72.5% full dead last in the league.

      2013 29th 13,923 ahead of the Islanders, 81.3% full ahead of only Columbus.

      *congrats you guys showed up for 1 season, oh by the way the new Arena opened up.

      And you bragging about your on ice product congrats because nobody in Phoenix witnessed it. Which makes your fans even more pathetic.

      Think I’m making up your numbers here ya go

  5. gmsalpha - May 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    I’ll be watching the developments around this situation closely, but my guess is that this finally gets done. I don’t think the mayor is going to prevent a favorable lease for the Coyotes, and as much as I’d like to see them leave, they could very well just need more time to become a successful team both on the ice, and in attendance. Then again, if in 5 years, they’re still bleeding money, the fight to keep them in the desert will wane. GB had the good sense to move the Thrashers north of the border (a second time). It’s time for Phoenix to move to Hamilton. But again, I don’t think they will.

  6. frankiesweep - May 27, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    It will be the best when the Coyotes win a cup before any Canadian team does….

    I’ll take the Coyotes over the Canadian field… Easy bet to win.

    Canucks are falling.
    Flames are bad
    Oilers have talent but can’t win.
    Players don’t want to play in Montreal b/c of taxes and language barriers.
    Leafs… Well they are the Leafs.
    Winnipeg…. No players worth their salt w/ any choices are going to play in that dump of a town.

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 27, 2013 at 6:08 PM

      And yet 4 of those 6 cities have already won a Cup

      • frankiesweep - May 27, 2013 at 7:01 PM

        Not since the team moved to Phx they haven’t….

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 27, 2013 at 8:15 PM

        Oh I’m sorry since they moved to Phoenix, Vancouver in 7, Ottawa in 5, Edmonton in 7, Calgary in 7 have all lost in the Finals since Winnipeg moved to Phoenix. Which is further than Phoenix ever has gone.

    • maxmasou - May 27, 2013 at 8:59 PM

      Quebec won the cup in 1912, 101 years before phoenix. Move it to quebec! Just imagine a whiter classic with Montreal vs Quebec on the Plaine d’abraham. It’s an outdoor place where we do music concert with sometimes 200 000 peoples. It’s also where anglophone kicked our ass in 1759….lollll And after that, France decided to sell what is the quebec province actually to keep an island known to produce lot of sugar. A choice as poor as to keep phoenix and let quebec without a team.

  7. gfallar - May 27, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    Weiers can’t “play hardball” with anybody. His position is one vote of seven, nothing more. So, the entire council, many of whom are already tired of Weiers’ posturing, will discuss and vote on any deal.

    If you think this is not true, the Glendale city charter is available online to anyone that cares to actually determine what the FACTS of the matter are rather than engaging in idle, and incorrect, speculation.

  8. jkulha86 - May 27, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Maybe it’s just me, but seems like the city of Glendale just doesn’t want to keep the Coyotes

  9. gatorjr - May 27, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    Hockey in the desert has never made any sense to me even before the Coyotes were created. Gary Bettman is a high paid IDIOT as far as I’m concerned and the NHL would be better off without him.

  10. ynothockey - May 27, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Still don’t get why people are so against growing the game of hockey. Does anyone even know how much money the NHL makes per year based on Phoenix’s tv market share? Are they really as you say “loosing” money?? Some say Phoenix doesn’t deserve hockey but I would say 80 percent of people who live here are from so called hockey markets. Go to any sports bar in or around Phoenix and ask anyone where they are from. You will hear Chicago New York Boston Detroit and all over Canada. Having said that I guess I’m one of the 20 that will continue supporting the Coyotes and continue watching hockey if they leave. Cause I think we all will agree hockey is the greatest game on earth hands down.

    • frankiesweep - May 27, 2013 at 7:12 PM

      Canadians are a simple people…. Just remember that and have pitty on them.

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 27, 2013 at 8:07 PM

      Exactly how is that different than the hockey markets in Tampa Bay and Fort Lauderdale? Their attendance isn’t great, but it isn’t down right embarrassing like Phoenix.

  11. frankiesweep - May 27, 2013 at 7:04 PM

    It’s fantastic watching the Canadians whine on all the boards… You gotta love it!

    Go Coyotes!!!!!!

    Team w/ no budget has won as many cups over the last 15 years as Kanadian teams that are able to print money… Yet no players really want to go to those cities.

    They like playing in the US where people’s lives aren’t focused 24x7x365 around the local hockey team….

    • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 27, 2013 at 8:09 PM

      Team with no budget? I believe since the last lockout all 30 teams have the same salary cap restrictions for both the floor and ceiling

      • frankiesweep - May 27, 2013 at 9:17 PM

        So you think the Coyotes have been given permission to spend to the cap? Fool.

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 27, 2013 at 10:42 PM

        Dude, I know for a fact, that the Coyotes can spend if they so choose to. Since the NHL bought the team in 2009, they went from the lowest payroll when they bought them and were 22nd, in the league the following 2 seasons. If the NHL didn’t want to spend the money, they would be barely above the floor those 2 season as well.

        Not to mention, the teams in the central and northwest division would have problems with that, being it would give the other 4 teams in the pacific division a huge edge since they all compete for the same 8 playoff spots. No way would an owner not want to have his team miss the playoffs because a team in the pacific beat up on Phoenix all season.

        Phoenix is 32nd this season in payroll, but id like to see where were ranked before the season started.

        Just like most sports, if fans in a city don’t show, the team won’t spend money. There is countless number of teams who do that. If you “fans” would show, they’d probably spend. The NHL has every good reason to spend money and make the playoffs. Extra playoff revenue that all 29 owners split.

      • rogueaustralian - May 28, 2013 at 3:03 AM

        Um, the yotes have been ‘owned’ by the league for the last three years and near the salary floor every one of those years. Every deal must be approved by Bill Daly and the league, including every contract extension or signing. Dont you think that’s different than having a billionaire owner? When he says no budget this is what he means. If you dont understand this then maybe you should change your screen name??!!

      • greatminnesotasportsmind - May 28, 2013 at 2:13 PM

        Then explain to me how the Coyotes were ranked 30th in payroll when the league took the team over. The following 2 seasons they were ranked 22nd in payroll. So clearly the team does spend. Do you think if they had a billionaire, all of the sudden they’d be spending to the cap when nobody goes to their games?

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