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Where are the doves? Miller wants moderate owners to speak up

Dec 3, 2012, 4:22 PM EDT

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Once optimistic that NHL labor peace could be achieved, Buffalo Sabres goalie Ryan Miller is just confused now.

“I can’t make sense of what the owners truly need because they want everything,” Miller texted the Buffalo News on Monday. “That is why it seems like the finish line is moving.”

Miller is a strong candidate to represent the NHLPA in tomorrow’s players-owners meeting in New York. And while he’s not particularly impressed that commissioner Gary Bettman and union chief Donald Fehr will be sitting this one out – “they are paid to make a deal” – he’s hopeful it gives less hawkish owners a chance to speak up.

Miller also criticized the NHL’s demands to restrict players’ contract rights (e.g. imposing a five-year maximum length on contracts), arguing it will handcuff the league’s elite general managers.

“I understand that position to the extent you don’t want contracts to cripple a team, but they are really taking away team building as a skill,” he wrote.

The same case was made recently by Dallas forward Ray Whitney.

  1. id4joey - Dec 3, 2012 at 4:55 PM

    “I can’t make sense of what the owners truly need because they want everything.” So, you do understand what they want? Wow! He’s going to be in the meeting…. Jacobs is going to have fun in this meeting.

    • millertime30 - Dec 3, 2012 at 10:36 PM

      don’t know the difference between to want and to need?

  2. purpleguy - Dec 3, 2012 at 5:02 PM

    Precisely what can they hope to accomplish sending in 6 players who retain business agents to negotiate their deals, to negotiate with 6 business owners that negotiate deals for a living? Lacking negotiating experience, players will tend to get emotional. When the NFL owners and players got together a year ago and the players became offended at the owners’ patronizing attitude, it was a disaster. This ain’t gonna be any better.

  3. ducksk - Dec 3, 2012 at 5:12 PM

    10 year contracts! Play like heck to earn 1, then coast. Plenty of those stories around.

  4. id4joey - Dec 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM

    shoobiedoobin, now now son. No need to get upset because we disagree. I know it’s difficult to accept you’re a child, but young man, you will one day understand.

    Now, both sides can do what they want. Players don’t have to accept. However, by not accepting they stand to lose more money than if they were to accept. Are you old enough to remember what happened in 2004-05? If so, then please explain how players, for example, Jerone Iginla, recovered the $7 million he lost that year. Here you go, young man, an opportunity to prove you have the intellect to rationalize. I impatiently await.

    • zetaone - Dec 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM

      How hard do you try to sound like a holier-than-thou d-bag? Or does it just come naturally to you?

      • tbbolts91 - Dec 3, 2012 at 8:27 PM

        if there is a god, id4joey will be struck by lightning

    • loinstache - Dec 3, 2012 at 8:27 PM

      I have nothing invested in this discussion but do you actually expect people to think an adult is sitting behind the computer with a response like that? you sound like everyone’s loner nephew who tries too hard to fit in at the adults table

  5. acieu - Dec 3, 2012 at 8:11 PM

    Feckin miller where at the dove players you shies bag

    • millertime30 - Dec 3, 2012 at 10:38 PM

      words are hard, huh?

  6. acieu - Dec 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM

    There is no god. He is a figment of Tim Tebows imagination so Joey is safe.

  7. id4joey - Dec 3, 2012 at 9:52 PM

    Ok. Let see if I get this right. I write opinions, and, when possible try to back it with facts and you guys piss on me with cuss words, and name calling. I’m being blatantly and purposely sarcastic, and people wish me death, and in the name of god. Wow! Never realized that god would actually use his higher powers to hit me with lightning. You guys are pathetic.

    • loinstache - Dec 3, 2012 at 10:24 PM

      Hey here’s a shocker, act like a dick and people treat you like one

      • noc4ovi - Dec 3, 2012 at 11:32 PM

        Dick loinstache, can you read a hole. Even when it’s an opinion with facts people piss and cuss. Idiots like you have no idea what s happening. So, since you acted like a dick, I’m telling you that you are a dick. Idiots like you make it so easy, son. lol

      • id4joey - Dec 3, 2012 at 11:37 PM

        Thanks, noc4ovi.

    • valoisvipers - Dec 4, 2012 at 12:09 AM

      Wow Joey Did you piss in these young punks cornflakes today? Yes friend it appears the natives are restless tonight.

    • zetaone - Dec 4, 2012 at 12:25 AM

      I don’t wish you death. I just think you act like a clown in 9/10 of your posts on PHT. Almost as if you are intentionally trying to annoy people.

    • millertime30 - Dec 4, 2012 at 12:07 PM

      you don’t have it straight at all.. when you call someone with whom you have no acquaintance, ‘son’ or ‘young man’, it is incredibly condescending, and will probably lead to reactions that you do not like.

  8. loinstache - Dec 3, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    That’s OK noc4ovi, I think you’re swell and have awesome reading comprehension, you also swear really impressively :)

  9. loinstache - Dec 3, 2012 at 11:49 PM

    I knew there was a reason I keep visiting this site

  10. finfan88shark - Dec 4, 2012 at 1:29 AM

    You can make fun of JoeyID but he is right . How do players recoup lost revenue and lost years? How do players like Selanne and Jagr feel about not being able to play what could be their last seasons?

  11. id4joey - Dec 4, 2012 at 7:21 AM

    valoisvipers, yeah! I’ve been a little sarcastic with the “kids” lately. Some are taking exception, and I suspect some here, like some players, lack the math skills to comprehend economics 101. Lol! The only one I don’t get is General Lee. Not sure what he’s doing here besides wasting time. He never has anything meaningful to write.

    • valoisvipers - Dec 4, 2012 at 9:31 AM

      Joey It’s a tough job but someone has to teach the young’ins “everything they need to know about life” (Movie Secondhand Lions) As for Gen Lee his just does this in between doing his cousin.

  12. id4joey - Dec 4, 2012 at 8:15 AM

    finfan88shark, it’s reassuring to see others looking at the impasse and solution from an objective and pragmatic perspective. There has to be more of us here.

  13. id4joey - Dec 4, 2012 at 7:47 PM

    Well, millertime, I agree with you. And I purposely used those condescending words to make a point. Meaning, if you resort to name calling and cussing, then you deserve the condescending remarks. You act like a kid, then you are treated like one.

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