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NHL cancels all November games

Oct 26, 2012, 11:44 AM EDT

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The NHL has canceled all games through November, the CBC’s Elliotte Friedman reports.

For now, the Winter Classic at Michigan Stadium remains scheduled for Jan. 1.

The move is not unexpected after the owners and players failed to reach a new CBA by Oct. 25 that would’ve allowed the season to start on Nov. 2. The only question was how many games would be canceled.

A total of 326 games — around a quarter of the season — have now been abandoned. Among those is the Nov. 23 Thanksgiving Classic between the Bruins and Rangers that would’ve been NBC’s first national TV broadcast of the season.

Update: The league has confirmed Friedman’s report.

Related: NHL to pull latest proposal off table

  1. theawesomersfranchise - Oct 26, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    There is plenty of hockey out there, Junior, AHL just don’t go back to the NHL in any way that provides money to either party and let the league twist in the wind please and thanks.

    Hockey is great but the NHL is a joke and needs to die
    Owners are a joke, Bettman is a joke, and the players should make sure to kill this league until there is nothing left.

    Start a new league

    • lostpuppysyndrome - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM

      The players ARE killing the league by not accepting the NHL’s offer. Egos are killing the game and their business. I realize Bettman and Fehr are both very smart men, yet they’re seemingly stupid enough to miss how much fan support and, by association, money they’re losing. I’ve been fairly patient and calm throughout this whole process, but I think I’m about done with their mind-numbing inanity.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM

        The PLAYERS bent over just a few years. They bent over and took it HARD, and not in a good way. And now the bunch of ultra rich old men are not satisfied because they see what the NBA and NFL have and want that too.

        A bunch of ULTRA RICH old men want to correct their mistakes. I repeat THEIR MISTAKES and punish the fans, employees and players AGAIN, to correct THEIR MISTAKE.

        So lemme be clear and be repetitive.

        Owners are happy and crush the NHLPA, get what they want.
        A few years later others get a new toy and the owners want some of what others have, decide that they not are NOT happy and have made mistakes.

        And the world that THEY live in, when they make mistakes they do not suffer, they figure their mistakes are going to be everyone else’s’ pain.

        Sure is EASY for the selfish observer to cry “just BEND OVER AND TAKE IT AGAIN PLAYERS, I wanna see hockey”

        Yes bend over once again players and fix the mistakes of the ultra rich. Buffoonery to be blaming the players for anything. You’re a sucker for that 50/50 “split” proposal obviously.

      • theawesomersfranchise - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:32 PM

        Oh and If I’m the NHLPA, I’d refuse to sign anything unless the league relocates the Yotes and the Panthers are relocated to more profitable cities. This is about hockey related revenue is it not? This is ALL about money is it not? Then why the hell are these two fail locations and money pits allowed to last this long?

      • rogersjd16 - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:13 PM

        You are laughably misinformed with this statement. As stated below in a few other posts, the players have made, quite literally, EVERY SINGLE CONCESSION and that smug, arrogant, lifeless, souless, troll Bettman and his merry band of richmen have done nothing but insult the players and thus fans with their CBA proposals. The latest from NHL:

        *Dropping 7% of their HRR (close to 20% when you consider inflation and rollbacks)
        *Losing a year of service and age on free agency (8/28)
        *Losing a year of arbitration eligibility (after the NHL’s initial offer which eradicated it completely)
        *Rookie contracts at 2 years – completely saturates and water downs the market after 2 years
        *And the kicker of them all, saying “Yes, we’ll “honor” your current contracts, but that counts against your % of HRR. Soooooo, the players are in essence, paying themselves.

        Utterly ridiculous. Impeach Bettman immediately to have any semblance of respect in the sporting landscape going forward.

      • lostpuppysyndrome - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:07 PM

        Maybe I should have clarified: Egos on both sides of the debate are killing the game and the business. Yes, the player gave up a lot last time, or that’s what everyone thought initially. Yes, the owners seem to be asking a lot again. However, the players have no leverage, other than to maaaaybe wait for some PR goof-up from the owners, but it would have to be something incredibly significant. The owners are in a much better position to wait it out, and the vast majority of players don’t want to spend the rest of their careers in European leagues, Ovechkin aside. The owners aren’t going to sweeten their deal much, if at all. I’m not a fan of the owners any more than anyone else, but at some point, if the game is going to be picked up again, you have to cut your losses and move on. Yes, Phoenix and Florida are millstones for the league, and if I had it my way, Dallas, Tampa, Carolina, and Anaheim would all be gone too. However, it is what it is.

        The owners have the upper hand by a lot, and it’s not like players are all of a sudden making pennies. The other fact that folks miss is that this proposal is only 6 years long. That’s nothing. We’ve learned from the last CBA that sometimes things that look bad aren’t actually as bad as it seems. If it works out, great. If not, move on and try something different. I’m not misinformed. I just happen to realize that it’s not worth losing a whole season to end up at the same conclusion you could have made much earlier. The posturing and the PR on both sides is utterly ridiculous, and no one’s buying it. They’re losing more with the lockout than they would if they’d just get a deal done and drop the puck.

  2. bcsteele - Oct 26, 2012 at 11:53 AM

    Sorry for those that just read this in the other story, due to the response I figured I’d repost it under the “more bad news section” just to see what everyone thinks:

    Want to share a brief story with everyone on PHT. Instead of just bashing and ranting, I’ll just give a specific example of how awesome BOTH sides should feel right now.

    I’m a Blues fan and probably attend (or try) about ten games a year. I live an hour and half from the team and work for a local dealership where I’m blessed to make a little more than a traditional middle class income. I own over ten jerseys, pay for an extended cable package ONLY to get the NHL game channels, and I’ve bought EVERY single copy of EA NHL for video games systems since they’ve been out. I consider myself an avid Blues fan, but bigger than that I’m a fan of the game and will watch the playoffs (as I’ve down up until last year for awhile) whether my team is in or not.

    But all that aside, let me tell you about someone else. Often times when I go to these games I meet my family that is part of the St. Louis area. A few years ago, my dad told me that my youngest brother (we’re fairly far apart in years) plays hockey with a child who’s dad is a regular factory worker and can’t afford to support his son’s sport (everyone who’s played knows what this can cost) on just his salary alone. He is one of the vendors at the games when he’s not working his regular job to pick up the extra leg. This allows him to support his son’s opportunity to play the sport we all love. Whenever I go to a game, all my drinks or otherwise have been bought from him and I tip VERY WELL…knowing where that money is going.

    So while the billionaires and millionaires continue to argue over millions of the pie…keep in mind that someone who can barely PAY TO PLAY HOCKEY…may be struggling because you guys are being absolutely ridiculous.

    Sorry this was long…but this is where my biggest frustrations stem…thanks for reading.

    • ron05342 - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:14 PM

      Great post.

      This is one of the things we are missing out on. As a lifelong Kings fan, my dream finally came true in June.

      How about the Blues fans, who are still also looking for their first Cup? As frustrated as I am that the Kings have been delayed their banner raising and defense of their Cup, I can only imagine how Blues fans feel that they have a true Cup contender this season and must wait to see if we are even going to have a season.

      So many opportunities are being lost now, and the owners and players really don’t seem to care about the fans nor the everyday workers in the hockey industry that are suffering simply because these guys refuse to negotiate at this point in time.

    • rogersjd16 - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:30 PM

      Beautifully said. Amen.

  3. rpiotr01 - Oct 26, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    A new deal starts and ends with owners guaranteeing current contracts. They need to take that step because that’s the hand up in the process. The PA will move on percentage numbers over the life of the deal and they’ll move on escrow amounts but they’re not going to agree to give back money that the league agreed to pay them just a few months ago.

    There are two choices – 1. Bettman can talk sense to the cabal of owners who want to wash the season at the expense of players and the majority of their fellow owners, insist that they move on this point in exchange for concessions elsewhere which would immediately re-ignite talks; or 2. double-down on this current insanity, lose the season and then completely lose face when owners eventually cave on the point next summer or fall.

    • theawesomersfranchise - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:24 PM

      He’s right

      Here is a fact

      There will be no season unless the owners honor the contracts they already offered and were already signed.

      I know it sounds CRAZY, but ya, the players have it in their heads that a contract is a contract and should be honored and will never agree to a deal that saves this year without the owners agreeing to that provision.

      So yes boys and girls keep blaming the players for standing firm that all negotiations begin and end with this reality. As they should. Let the league DIE before allowing owners to wiggle out of deals THEY OFFERED and signed.

      The NHL owners do not deserve fans, and that should be made clear when they decide they have hurt the league enough and get back to playing games.

      • rogersjd16 - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:16 PM

        And how do the owners claim they’ll honor those? By saying they will only if it counts against the players’ HRR. Despicable.

  4. Stiller43 - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:00 PM

    That was actually a good read, bcsteele.

    Unfortunately, neither side cares for the “help” on gamedays who rely on that as supplemental or even primary income.

    Everyones losing money…owners not getting ticket revenue, etc, players are missing game checks, but guys down the line who cant afford to miss those paychecks are the ones who are really hurting.

  5. redwingsfan999 - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM

    JUST MAKE A DEAL

  6. jimw81 - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:36 PM

    I Would advise every season ticket holder to demand immediate refund and not allow your money to be used to fund lockout.

  7. washburn1000 - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:38 PM

    Fans fighting over who is at fault is pointless because neither side cares what we think beyond the PR ramifications. It’s time we start blaming everyone and demanding that a deal gets done.

    Also- all you pro labor guys, the annual net value of contracts have always fluctuated via escrow so get over it.

  8. alexb64 - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:45 PM

    There was never any intention of playing a full 82 games. The owners pushing for this lockout had no interest in operating costs for a WHOLE season. They could get their 50/50 and save a few bucks on top of it & plan on the fans welcoming them back with open arms once they “softened up” and took a “shared sacrifice” to just get us good people our hockey back. What happened was that threw a wrench in their plans was when Deadspin did the story on their attempt at manipulating public opinion in a battle they quickly realized the fans weren’t on their side for. Then someone, maybe even the guy they hired for this, decided on a new strategy which was making a “desperate” offer to the players that COINCIDENTALLY was leaked in full detail to the public almost immediately and make sure that they just sell it on the 50/50 split. 50/50! Equal! Fair! That part where they said the existing contracts would be honored but only by the players themselves paying for the difference, that was swept under the rug & brushed off. The NHLPA was rather angry at that because they weren’t fighting a 50/50 split, they were against not honoring contracts (some offered just 2 months prior to the lockout) & the IMMEDIATE 50/50 split instead of something where it went down gradually.

    What the NHL wanted originally was probably 1-2 before the October 25th deadline was to make that very public offer, knowing full well the NHLPA wouldn’t take it and try to win support from the fans by playing the “We made them an offer out of desperation to save the full season and they rejected it! You don’t have hockey until December because of those greedy players!” which would ideally be the last offer possible prior to the deadline & down the road hoping public backlash would make the NHLPA cave. With the necessity for action after Deadspin embarrassed them though, the NHLPA had ample time to make counter offers which probably made the league very nervous. “Oh geez, what if it’s extremely fair & logical? We’ll be screwed!” then by amazing luck the NHLPA made 3 offers which were rather blatantly marred by not having done the math on how their proposed structures would actually work. NHL breathed a collective sigh of relief & felt confident in the shortened schedule. The last potential threat was NHLPA wanting to meet on the 24th which Bill Daly squashed right away & with almost no need for explanation because the loss of games was apparent & most fans had abandoned hope anyway.

    Hockey media across the spectrum have repeated that there is very clearly a deal to be made, and it obviously will. NHL hockey will be played, but just as the owners pushing for this wanted it’s going to be at least 20 games less. Most of us will run back with open arms, especially because I do believe the new CBA will be longer if for no other reason than to build trust with fans. However I hope fans in at least some significant number do our own fan strike. Maybe first 10 games don’t watch or attend. An easy & very effective one that everyone could do which ultimately may send a stronger message is to stop buying NHL merchandise. You don’t have to give up the games, but you can send a message by taking away a big source of profit to the owners. They couldn’t be any more clear about how losing ANY money no matter how insignificant it is tantamount to murder in their eyes.

  9. thecheeman - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    The Devils lost their game featuring the return of Parise.

  10. jimw81 - Oct 26, 2012 at 12:55 PM

    it’s amazing how Bettman and 8 owners can hold the season and league hostage.

  11. phlmt69 - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:11 PM

    While I tend to stand with the players in this debacle, if honoring existing contracts is a major hang up then let’s see them add language to a proposal guaranteeing no more player hold outs and no requests for renegotiating contracts they signed while those contracts are still in effect. Seems fair to me.

    • jimw81 - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:31 PM

      owners don’t want to honor the contracts because contracts that were signed over the last 2 years was there own fault. they are trying to run away from the problem.

      • valoisvipers - Oct 27, 2012 at 11:45 PM

        Have you heard of Fehr and his 57% solution? That friend is the problem and is the why of ridiculous contract offers.

  12. habsman - Oct 26, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    The players just lost their first paycheque of the season. The lockout will be over soon.

  13. bleed4philly - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    F

  14. homerx - Oct 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM

    I’m tired of following these antics at this point. I’ll check back in January; if they start up before that the NHL will not get my viewing dollars. Way to alienate your fans NHL. Especially coming off a record revenue year. And where does that revenue come from…I thought so.

  15. id4joey - Oct 26, 2012 at 4:52 PM

    People write all kinds of crazy sh*t here. Everyone is so irrational here. Mind blowing. Relax! It’s only October! What are you getting so antsy about? We should do something else with our time. I don’t know, read a book, workout, go to bars, movies, anything that will relax you until either the season starts or gets cancelled. You can rant, curse, name call all you want when we know the season is cancelled. Right now let the business men solve their problems. Hey. Read a book about labor negotiations. That would help you fall a sleep or educate yourself in the process.
    Negotiating a Labor Contract: A Management Handbook (Hardcover)
    Charles S. Loughran

  16. blackhawkslove - Oct 26, 2012 at 8:22 PM

    Take me back to the day when the NHL was beautiful. When we had players who were classy, graceful and cared about a city more than themselves.

    You disappoint me NHL and players. These are the moments I live for, and you are taken them away from me. You should be disgusted with yourself.

  17. 8man - Oct 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM

    The beginning of game over..

  18. omniusprime - Oct 27, 2012 at 9:01 AM

    Who Cares? I mean it’s not like professional hockey is worth watching in the first place, just a bunch of overgrown boys trying to see who gets in the best cheap shot with the stick to the face. It’s not like pro hockey is a real sport liked by real people. I say let the whole season burn and hopefully every other future season to not come!

  19. b1unt3d - Oct 27, 2012 at 1:57 PM

    Good riddance.

  20. richc111 - Oct 27, 2012 at 2:41 PM

    You know what a problem, and this is with every major sport now is it is “revenue sharing” It is not based on profit because the player unions don’t trust the owner. ok good whatever.. Because it is revenue sharing the as the league grow revenue the players get raises… ok good, whatever.. I think the problem (it is is with every sport because of this model) as the owners cost go up, they make less. Pretty simple. How many disputes have have there been in the last year over cable rates. As healthcare, employment, broadcasting cost all go up, as I sure they are because what has gone down recently. they make less. So putting aside whatever side you want to be on. I propose the simple model that is used to calculate salary cost is what ends up causing the issue. Let’s face it both sides are loaded and they are fighting over our money. You want to make things better, change the model. You can change the people all you want, but if the model remains the same, you will always have this problem.

  21. valoisvipers - Oct 27, 2012 at 11:50 PM

    Good post Richc111 Hope others will now understand what owners are dealing with here. They did not get rich by losing money.

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