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Poll: When do you think the lockout will end?

Oct 13, 2012, 11:00 PM EDT

Fehr and Bettman AP

It’s easy to get pessimistic about the CBA negotiations when the day-to-day news is less than encouraging, but ultimately we might just be one very good day away from a resolution. The question is when that day will be.

Wayne Gretzky has believed for quite some time that we’d get a 2012-13 season and the recent gridlock hasn’t altered his viewpoint.

At the same time, we’ve already lost meaningful games and TSN’s Darren Dreger said that the next wave of canceled games could come as early as next week and be “much bigger” than the last round of scrapped contests.

So what’s your take? Do you think the NHL season will start in the not too distant future? Will there even be a 2012-13 campaign?

  1. id4joey - Oct 13, 2012 at 11:04 PM

    No later than end of nov. Some owners are loosing big time, so they will want to salvage part of the season starting with the Winter Classic.

    • polegojim - Oct 14, 2012 at 1:22 AM

      Would be nice… but I’m actually starting not to care… see….

      Go TIGERS! Awesome game in New York – too bad Jeter went down hard.

      • jaybertx - Oct 14, 2012 at 9:43 AM

        No worries, A-Rod will pick up the slack…. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

        Go Giants Go!

  2. stakex - Oct 13, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    If the lockout is going to end, its going to be before mid-December. That will give the league some time to lead up to the Winter Classic, and still film the HBO 24/7 show.

    If no deal happens before then, the seasons over.

  3. pondhockeyallstar - Oct 13, 2012 at 11:31 PM

    Probably never. ever again. seriously

  4. websurferdude - Oct 13, 2012 at 11:46 PM

    I don’t think we are going to have a 2012-2013 season and for that matter it will be very hard for the fans to come back, And for the players to trust the owners. I mean come on 3 lockouts in 15 years no sport can survive than that, and no fan can trust the owners. This is greed at its worst. Once again the fans gets screwed. Hockey had such strong momentum going a strong fan base the sport was coming around and was even going to give baseball a run for the money, but the owners got greedy again and well this time I think it’s over for hockey.

    • manchestermiracle - Oct 14, 2012 at 1:36 AM

      Yeah, the killing of the momentum the NHL was seeing is the worst part. These doofusses (doofi?) remind me of a football player thinking he’s got a TD and slowing down before the goal line. Just before he gets there a defender catches him and pokes the ball out. Except these jackasses (jacki?) are fumbling an entire sport away.

      • jaybertx - Oct 14, 2012 at 9:56 AM

        Agree 100%. We are second year full season ticket holders for the Lightning. Last season, the tickets were for me. Birthday gift. I have a wife and two boys. I was excited to get them but no one else was really a hockey fan. As soon as I took each of them to a game, they were hooked as many people are. By the end of the season, everyone had a good grasp of the game but didn’t necessarily know players on teams other than our own.

        This year we upgraded the seats. My wife was very excited for the season to start. When she learned of the lockout, her comment was “That’s too bad. I was really going to try and become a better HOCKEY fan this year, pay attention to more than just the Lightning.” She was angry at the start but now she’s becoming more and more apathetic about the whole thing. If that’s not killing momentum, I don’t know what is.

  5. badgerbuck - Oct 14, 2012 at 12:01 AM

    End of November , first of December

  6. swedeg - Oct 14, 2012 at 12:15 AM

    I think within two weeks they’ll announce a settlement, but I also think the Wild will win the Cup soon.

  7. bleed4philly - Oct 14, 2012 at 12:23 AM

    More players need to go to the khl or threaten to in order for the owners to get serious. It will be a while before the NHL comes back.

  8. kcprof926 - Oct 14, 2012 at 12:28 AM

    I love hockey but I am sick of the NHL. As long as there is football I will survive. Both sides make me sick.

  9. lostone49 - Oct 14, 2012 at 1:10 AM

    I have gotten to the point that I honestly don’t care. If it ever comes back, I will probably still follow my favorite team, but nowhere like I did before this happened. I certainly will not purchase Center Ice, or go out of my way to see a game live! I’ve been a die hard L.A. Kings fan since the mid ’80s, but this lockout has shown me that the people in charge do not care about the fans at all. This is one too many times of putting aside our “entertainment” for arguments over how little money there is to share, while spending it like there is no tomorrow. Why should I spend my time and money on a sport that may or may not play a season, depending on who feels they are treated fairly? It isn’t that I am “holding back” my money from the league to prove a point. I just don’t see the point in investing in it again, as I did before, when there are other things I can do instead.

  10. bruinsfan19 - Oct 14, 2012 at 1:29 AM

    I think by the Winter Classic because that is the biggest event of the Reg. season and they make a lot of money off that . But we’ll see you never know with Bettman

  11. paledevil - Oct 14, 2012 at 1:35 AM

    When Mr Bettman resigns……

    • bmoreredfury311 - Oct 14, 2012 at 1:08 PM

      deja vu…..

  12. finfan88shark - Oct 14, 2012 at 3:24 AM

    It will be over when greedy hard line owners (Read Ed Snider, Jeremy Jacobs and Craig Leopold) are overthrown and removed from power by 22 other owners who are not afraid to tell them and Bettman to go to hell.

  13. blomfeld - Oct 14, 2012 at 4:29 AM

    So what’s your take?

    My answer to that is BOO ! I believe that we’ll have an agreement by Halloween and that play on the ice will start by November 15th. We’re now only three days past the originally “slated” start date of the season, yet already so many of you have succumbed to fear and despair, which I honestly don’t understand ? Even several of my fellow LA Kings fans have apparently now joined this “exodus of lost hope” ? Come on you guys and give you heads a shake ! Do you really think that these idiots are going to blow their own brains out by writing off the entire year ? If we as “common” fans can see where this is dangerously headed, don’t you think that those with a vested interest can see the same thing ? Of course they can ! And so there’s no way in hell that this goes on for anymore than three weeks, tops.

    No offense friends, but the general mood here at PHT recently, seems to be lacking in terms of resolve or “sangfroid” if you will (ie: coolness and composure under trying circumstances). Sangfroid or “cold blood” was the credo of the British Army for centuries and it’s quite frankly the reason why we’re conversing here today in English. Is a forward line of British grenadiers supposed to buckle, merely because they’ve taken an initial volley of French fire ? Of course not ! If anything, the French fire will only stiffen their resolve, as they close ranks to press home the attack with even greater zeal ! And so should it be with us hockey fans and our faith in the game. Don’t let the “theatrics” of a few “wealthy” New York parasites send you running for cover in the hills ! There’s nothing to fear from these people and you’ll only feel foolish tomorrow, if you don’t “fall in” with the rest of us believers now !

    • manchestermiracle - Oct 14, 2012 at 12:59 PM

      I remind you of the Charge of the Light Brigade. Hubris brought down the British Empire. Hubris is destroying the NHL.

      • blomfeld - Oct 14, 2012 at 3:38 PM

        Hubris: excessive pride or presumption which can ultimately cause the transgressor’s ruin

        Manchestermiracle: that’s a great word and an excellent reference to what was perhaps the “quintessential” example of British military arrogance, even though every nation and army must surely have their own recorded moments of hubris ? … the example of Custer at the Little Bighorn immediately comes to mind … nonetheless, I still maintain that the NHL knows “exactly” what it’s doing here … when and “only” when this goes past the US Thanksgiving holiday weekend unresolved, will I then be prepared to “fall in” with the naysayers … in the meantime, I will continue to dismiss this so-called impasse as being nothing more than “contrived” theatrics …

  14. dhillca - Oct 14, 2012 at 6:01 AM

    The day after the Super Bowl since I don’t need them til then

  15. icrew29 - Oct 14, 2012 at 7:43 AM

    I guess I am not very good at math. 50% or 43% of nothing is nothing when I went to school. When they do come back and you go to a game, do not add to their HRR. Don’t spend $ on anything but the ticket. They can’t settle a lockout, you settle it by leaving their cut of the NRR at 0%.

  16. antkowiak666 - Oct 14, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    i don’t see them missing out on the Winter Classic.that is HUGE for the NHL right now.they would be really stupid to lock out the players beyond’s a cash cow for them!

  17. xaf605 - Oct 14, 2012 at 10:09 AM

    At this point it doesnt matter if the nhl ever starts there are other things i can waste my hard earned money on

  18. valoisvipers - Oct 14, 2012 at 10:54 AM

    If this crap goes on till Dec 10th, the season will then be cancelled, as that is roughly the half way through the regular season, who wants a half of a Stanley Cup?

  19. girth2k1 - Oct 14, 2012 at 11:05 AM

    It’s almost to the point where I don’t care, I have lived without baseball since 95 because of their strike, since the last lock out I haven’t followed hockey as I once did, and if this season is lost, I will be done with the NHL.

  20. joeyashwi - Oct 14, 2012 at 11:20 AM

    I was an avid fan. I watched every Wild game that I could and any other NHL game that was on. I didn’t miss a playoff game and was excited to see the momentum building for the NHL.
    I won’t watch a watered down season so as far as I’m concerned cancel the whole thing. This lockout will drive the casual and new fans away but it has also made many avid fans like me so angry that we won’t be there when/if it returns either.
    At the rate of one meeting a week, the season is lost. Just the logistics of getting all the players back here from all over Europe will take a week or so. Then add minimal practice time and scheduling, that’s another two weeks. If they signed a deal tomorrow we still wouldn’t have hockey until November. No way they get it done in 2012 and nobody wants a fifty game season if they start in January. Bye NHL. You had a great thing going but it’s done. Look forward to less HRR than you could have imagined.

  21. icrew29 - Oct 14, 2012 at 12:32 PM

    You want to understand the lockout, read Game Misconduct.

  22. ducksk - Oct 14, 2012 at 12:53 PM

    Winter classic will start season. By then the owners saved millions, taught the nhlpa a lesson and kiss and makeup. And like we always will us fans will be there. Pissed but be there sorry to say.

    • manchestermiracle - Oct 14, 2012 at 1:02 PM

      Yes, falling into their trap of greed every five years or so is a truly sorry situation. If fans flock back to games the moment they resume then the real moron will be the schmuck in the mirror.

      • blomfeld - Oct 14, 2012 at 3:44 PM

        true enough … yet remember that “true” hockey fans love the game … and “true” love is without condition …

      • manchestermiracle - Oct 16, 2012 at 10:43 AM

        I love ya, blom, your unwavering optimism is inspiring, but an abusive relationship is a lousy excuse for love. I’m sorry, but I’m really thinking about taking my “true” love somewhere else when the other side punches me in the face every five years.

  23. thedavesiknowiknow - Oct 14, 2012 at 2:32 PM

    Sometime in June.

  24. websurferdude - Oct 14, 2012 at 11:23 PM

    To all those hockey players that went over seas stay there, at least they care about their sport and their fans better then the NHL. I always joked that Canada gave us hockey but America made it better, boy was I wrong. Greed made it worst and took it away from all of us. RIP hockey you died in 2012. You will be missed, but like everything else that dies in a few months you will be a mere memory of what could have been.

  25. fortwaynekomets - Oct 15, 2012 at 9:38 PM

    If it doesn’t start before December, then it won’t start at all. I for one, have already canceled my season tickets when it resumes. No joke I used to spend money just to feel good and help the economy while supporting hockey. I will from now on ne a cheapass, unfortunately.

    If the NHL cancels this season, it will be the biggest blackeye hockey will ever take. mark my words.

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