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Orlov, Skinner escape further punishment

Mar 7, 2012, 12:18 PM EDT

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CSNWashington.com is reporting that Capitals defenseman Dmitry Orlov will not face supplemental discipline for shoving linesman Jean Morin during last night’s game against the Hurricanes.

Also escaping punishment was Carolina forward Jeff Skinner, who the Caps accused of slew-footing.

“Skinner’s infraction was more of a trip than a slew-foot (at least as Hockey Ops/Player Safety traditionally has defined it).,” an NHL spokesperson told CSNWashington.com in an email. “The difference comes when there’s an upper-body action (a yanking back with the arm or shoulder) to create a violent crash to the ice rather than just a trip.

“As for Orlov, the rule of thumb that has been used is that when on-ice officials assess a Game Misconduct for Abuse of Officials, Hockey Ops/ Player Safety follows their lead and imposes Supplementary Discipline. When the on-ice officials don’t (Orlov got a 10-minute misconduct), SD (supplementary discipline) rarely follows.”

If you’re wondering, here’s how the NHL defines slew-footing:

52.1 Slew-footing – Slew-footing is the act of a player or goalkeeper using his leg or foot to knock or kick an opponent’s feet from under him, or pushes an opponent’s upper body backward with an arm or elbow, and at the same time with a forward motion of his leg, knocks or kicks the opponent’s feet from under him, causing him to fall violently to the ice.

Seems to me the “or” after “under him” means an upper-body action isn’t necessary to call slew-footing. Granted, an upper-body action would make the play more dangerous, so maybe that’s why no supplementary discipline was given.

Orlov, meanwhile, can consider himself lucky he only got a 10-minute misconduct for that shove. It’s not like the linesman was hurt or anything, but come on man, you can’t be pushing the refs.

  1. mehetmet - Mar 7, 2012 at 12:27 PM

    both should have been fined.

  2. bcjim - Mar 7, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Caps need more emotional play but lets go easy on the refs.

    I am calling on the Caps to activate “The Wrecker” for the next meeting with Carolina, Skinners act is wearing pretty thin.

  3. govtminion - Mar 7, 2012 at 1:14 PM

    Shoving a ref produces no disciplinary action in the NHL.

    I repeat.

    Shoving a ref produces no disciplinary action in the NHL.

    …incredible.

    • mehetmet - Mar 7, 2012 at 2:54 PM

      there wasn’t “no disciplianry action”, he got a 10 minute misconduct. There wasn’t additional discipline given out.

      • govtminion - Mar 7, 2012 at 2:59 PM

        And you think that’s all a player should get for SHOVING A REFEREE?

      • mehetmet - Mar 7, 2012 at 3:27 PM

        no if you check the first comment on this thread…

  4. lilgurgi - Mar 7, 2012 at 1:26 PM

    Rinaldo just got fined for a slew foot a few weeks ago…wonder how they differentiated between the 2 incidents.

    • gianthatr - Mar 7, 2012 at 2:48 PM

      Because Rinaldo admitted to it, said he needed to “Stir things up” and if you bothered to read the above article it clearly states:

      The difference comes when there’s an upper-body action (a yanking back with the arm or shoulder) to create a violent crash to the ice rather than just a trip.

      Rinaldo clearly pushes him down while tripping him to cause the fall to be more violent. Skinner just kicked Orlov’s foot out and skated away.

      Orlov shoulda been suspended. This isn’t the KHL.

      • pens919209 - Mar 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM

        Well, this is in the NHL’s rulebook concerning slew-footing: “52.1 Slew-footing – Slew-footing is the act of a player or goalkeeper using his leg or foot to knock or kick an opponent’s feet from under him” – so according to their own rules, there does not need to be any pulling or yanking of the upper body to qualify a play as a slew-foot. Kicking out a player’s feet from under him, according to the NHL’s definition, could be interpreted as slew-footing.

        But then, the NHL’s rules leave lots of those pesky gray areas and too much room for interpretation… which is probably one of the reasons why discipline (and penalty calling) is so aggravatingly inconsistent.

  5. rsl22 - Mar 7, 2012 at 3:51 PM

    I didn’t expect Skinner to get any supplemental discipline, but come on dude, you definitely slew-footed Orlov. Own up to it. OV has played like garbage lately, but it was nice to see him stick up for the rook.

    I like Orlov, and am a Caps fan, but I can admit he probably should have at least been fined or something. As a rule I generally hate refs, and I can understand he was pissed off and shyte happens in the heat of the moment that a player will probably regret when he considers it after-the-fact, but it isn’t cool to be shoving a ref.

    In my men’s league, we usually just shoot pucks at the ref when we’re pissed off.

  6. upyoursnfu - Mar 7, 2012 at 5:58 PM

    Put a nail in it Caps. Season over.

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