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Pens sign Carcillo to pro tryout contract

Sep 4, 2014, 10:31 AM EDT

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The Pittsburgh Penguins have signed forward Daniel Carcillo to a professional tryout contract, the club announced today.

Carcillo is, of course, well-known to Pens fans. The 29-year-old tough guy was originally drafted by the Pens in 2003 and had his longest NHL stint with Pittsburgh’s biggest rivals, the Philadelphia Flyers. He’s also played for the Coyotes, Blackhawks, Kings, and, most recently, the Rangers.

From the Pens’ press release:

A native of King City, Ontario, Carcillo was a part of Chicago’s 2013 Stanley Cup championship squad. He has played in three of the last five Stanley Cup Finals – 2014 with the NY Rangers; 2013 with Chicago; and 2010 as a member of the Flyers.

Carcillo has played in 390 career NHL regular-season contests, producing 44 goals, 48 assists, 92 points and 1,179 penalty minutes. He has added 14 points (7G-7A), 97 penalty minutes and a plus-9 in 45 postseason games.

  1. runhigh24 - Sep 4, 2014 at 10:40 AM

    The Penguins remake of their bottom 6 forwards this offseason has been perfect. Now all they need to do is dump Craig Adams. Seeing how GM Jim Rutherford did that 7 years ago when Craig Adams was 30 I sense he’ll have no issues dumping him now at 37.

    • jpelle82 - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:03 AM

      except craig adams is one of the better penalty killers they have…and he’s cheap 700k. yeah he’s old but he’s a leader and he’s in great shape, pretty durable, level headed, can take faceoffs, can fight if absolutely necessary

      • claudegirwho - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:14 AM

        You mean Craig Adams can take punches to the face I wouldn’t really call it…fighting

      • steelpenbucs87 - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:15 AM

        He’s only really valuable on the PK, which means you are keeping him on the roster for 3 minutes of ice time per game. I’m not saying he’s not good on the PK, but you just cant pay PK specialists – they need to be able to contribute at Even Strength which Adams just can’t anymore.

      • jpelle82 - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:59 AM

        he plays 12 mins per game and yes he’s a 4th liner, he’s not out there to score goals (he did have 5 last year though which made it his 4th best season in that dept and above his career average). he’s out there to get it in deep and possess it for a few minutes a game and wear on guys. find me a better two time cup winning penalty killing specialist 4th liner with 1000 combined games experience for 700k available right now. he was a key part of the #1 pk in the league last year. he’s played every game the last 3 seasons and only missed 2 games the season before that. what more could you ask for for 700k? you want a guy like payerl with no experience instead for the just about the same price? serious question, do you get rid of a guy like adams to replace him with a younger guy with less experience because he may or may not score one or two more goals? its not the 4th liner’s job to score goals. those young 4th liners tend to spend their first few years in the penalty box trying to prove themselves fighting and retaliating anyway. i’d rather have a guy who’s responsible and durable and you know what you’re gonna get all 82 games for that price.

      • brycewest - Sep 4, 2014 at 12:07 PM

        Spot on, jpelle!

      • stixzidinia - Sep 4, 2014 at 3:33 PM

        No, he’s not a quality penalty killer anymore. And by all accounts he’s not much of a leader, and in fact is one of the negative guys in the room. He’s no longer an NHL level talent.

        That said, I hate Carcillo. I hope he doesn’t make the team.

      • steelpenbucs87 - Sep 4, 2014 at 5:13 PM

        The answer to your serious question is “yes” I would like to get rid of him. I admit that he is a solid PKer which is about 3 minutes a night on average. Yet he’s play 12 minutes as you note, which means 9 minutes of absolutely TERRIBLE even strength ice time for him. You talk about him being out there to get the puck deep and wearing guys out – well he didn’t do that last year. That’s obvious through his ABYSMAL possession numbers (Fenwick % 35.6), as well as just the eye test. Our fourth line was miserable at getting the puck deep and rarely put together any sort of a cycle – heck they were lucky to get it through the neutral zone.

        So yes – I would pitch him for someone like a Jayson Megna who has some talent and skill. Grit and toughness in the absence of any semblance of skill is meaningless. I appreciate what Adams brought to the team the past 7 years but it is well past the time to bid him adieu.

      • c9castine - Sep 4, 2014 at 6:53 PM

        best penalty killers we have? maybe shot blockers. hes as good as a brooks orpik cardboard cutout.

        i can still see images in my head of the 9 million failed clear attempts on the penalty kill the last two years by craig adams.

        he once served a purpose, and he not longer comes close.

    • 19to77 - Sep 4, 2014 at 3:11 PM

      jpelle’s got it. Show me a better player for just $700k. Adams is VERY cost-effective, not only because he’s a useful PK specialist, but because he’s on one of the cheapest one-way contracts in the NHL. There are very few, if any players making less than a million that do more than he does, so why mess with what works?

      • illashell - Sep 4, 2014 at 4:54 PM

        Megna, Sill, Uher, Payerl basically anyone. He’s no longer a good PK’er so he’s useless.

      • steelpenbucs87 - Sep 4, 2014 at 5:14 PM

        He doesn’t do anything. He plays 3 minutes of PK time where he is great, but 9 more minutes a game at Even Strength where he is abysmal. There are plenty of players who can give you a better all around game than Craig Adams at the cost. You don’t have the roster space or the cap space to pay specialists….

      • c9castine - Sep 4, 2014 at 6:56 PM

        zach sill.

        VERY cost effective (two words, and im no grammar popo), a two way contract we can toggle as needed, and showed himself useful in the same capacity as adams but with youthful legs and his face is not nearly as beaten in (lots of young female fans in pittsburgh)

        why mess with what works??? haha…because it hasnt you dummy

    • c9castine - Sep 4, 2014 at 7:12 PM

      cant just dump him. unless you find somebody who wants him for like, a 17th rounder….pretty hard to get him off the roster and remove his cap hit, which is the most important part these days.

  2. ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM

    Rinaldo vs Carcillo would be epic.

    • jpelle82 - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:03 AM

      would hope he makes it just for that reason…

    • blackandorangeforlife - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:28 AM

      Rinaldo would treat Carcillio like a Rag Doll!

      • c9castine - Sep 4, 2014 at 7:00 PM

        hahaha…sounds so incestuous coming from you

      • blackandorangeforlife - Sep 5, 2014 at 9:42 AM

        incestuous….outcestuous…Its all good!

    • elmerbrownelmerbrown - Sep 4, 2014 at 5:18 PM

      No it would not !

  3. pitpenguinsrulez - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Just please get rid off Craig Adams already. He sucks and is a favorite of Discoball.

    • ntvd7 - Sep 4, 2014 at 2:41 PM

      Great on faceoffs, defensive zone, penalty kill, and he’s a two time champ

      Not sure how he “sucks” here…..

      • jdlinder11 - Sep 4, 2014 at 3:03 PM

        He has no speed. He cannot control the puck in the offensive zone at all. His entire shift is spent in the defensive zone, trying desperately to clear the puck. That is not winning hockey.

      • pitpenguinsrulez - Sep 4, 2014 at 3:50 PM

        He’s a replaceable curtain jerker. You have Crosby, Sutter, and Goc who are good at faceoffs and can play just fine on the PK. At time we picked up Adams in 2009 it made sense but nowadays he’s terrible and needs to be cut. He was Discoballs teacher pet.

    • thesportsjudge - Sep 4, 2014 at 5:13 PM

      A favorite of a FORMER coach? Oh no!!!(I know a lot of y’all read that in Bruce, from Family Guy’s voice!)

  4. jacketsfan7 - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Why didn’t they show the fight vs max talbot?

  5. hockey412 - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    I hate that Craig Adams is still on the fourth line contributing nothing but PK minutes (and is a minus player 5 on 5)…but if they are going to have Carcillo AND Steve Downie on the team, they might need to play him.

  6. sjsharks66 - Sep 4, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Craig Adams is a perfect example of a solid fourth line player. Come on guys.. He leaves and the Pens PK is useless. They already let the best PK player in Glass go. Can’t let them both leave.

    • jpelle82 - Sep 4, 2014 at 12:02 PM

      i dont get the hate either

      • hockey412 - Sep 4, 2014 at 12:14 PM

        I completely understand what both of you guys are saying, and it’s valid. The difference of opinion is that while he’s good at the PK, he was a -16 last year. If he’s good defensively and can shut down the other teams 2nd or 3rd line, ok. I actually didn’t think the fourth line was great at possessing the puck last year, either.

        Also while I agreed in the past that it’s not his job to score, there’s also the opinion that the lack of scoring depth is what is hurting the Pens in the playoffs. I actually would rather have a guy like Sill or Payerl play the fourth for the same money – the young guys do add a spark that was completely absent the last couple years.

        This is all opinion, and I think Bylsma very much agreed with you guys. He’s a hell of a lot smarter than I am, but I just don’t agree.

    • stixzidinia - Sep 4, 2014 at 3:40 PM

      My god, are you actually trying to claim that Craig Adams is the key to the success of the Pens’ PK?! If we didn’t have the misfortune of having under contract for another year he would not have been re-signed……and for good reason. And he wouldn’t have been signed by anybody else for any other reason than AHL work.

      The idea that Adams is currently any kind of proficient penalty killer is a fallacy. He’s a glorified pylon. Half the guys in my beer league could out-skate him at this point.

    • steelpenbucs87 - Sep 4, 2014 at 5:18 PM

      sjsharks I usually agree with you but you’re dead wrong. He was an abysmal fourth line player on an abysmal fourth line. They didn’t possess the puck and the gave up tons of shots and goals relative to the amount of ice time they had. You can definitely let him go and roll with Sutter, Duper, Goc, and Comeau as your primary PK forwards, with Spalling and Downie jumping in in a pinch.

  7. ipaintrinks - Sep 4, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    ah, the versus network. takes me back.

  8. ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2014 at 12:51 PM

    how did he not mention the 8th seed 2012 Cup champion Kings?

    • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2014 at 12:53 PM

      dammit. went to the wrong post

    • bsaures - Sep 4, 2014 at 1:28 PM

      Blomfeld is that you?

      • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2014 at 1:30 PM

        lol nah. scroll up a few stories. my dumb a** put this comment on the wrong article. not sure how. that’s funny tho, i called out blomfeld this AM on the article about Hall. he hasn’t shown up yet.

  9. kastout11 - Sep 4, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Since he has been a Flyer, I have watched Carcillo play several games, and for a goon, he is not a bad player and has some talent. He will not be anywhere but the 4th line, but he will have a very defined role, and I also am looking forward to carcillo and Rinaldo hooking up a few times this year when they play Philly. He actually has some decent hands and can score a goal every now and then. I don’t see him on the same line as Crosby or Malkin.

  10. penguins87and71 - Sep 4, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    Well this is interesting….

  11. JoeAvg - Sep 4, 2014 at 3:39 PM

    So they show Neal the door only to bring in this suspension machine. Worst part is they are already at 50 contracts, if they want to bring him in for good, someones gotta go.

    Shame the game is still at the point where teams feel a need to employ guys like this.

  12. timmons94 - Sep 4, 2014 at 4:40 PM

    did anyone watch what Columbus and the Rangers did to Crosby in the playoffs with no bells to answer…

    as Newman said to the police in seinfeld about the kidnapped dog- what took u so long…

    about time, Boston has been playing on the edge for years..why not us for once

  13. laxman1944 - Sep 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM

    Well, they continue to add some sandpaper to the line up. Especially after the abuse Sid took in the tournament and NOBODY answered for him……for shame.

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