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Spaling requests $2.85 million from Pens, who counter with $1.65 million

Jul 30, 2014, 12:17 PM EST

From Ken Campbell of The Hockey News:

Spaling’s arbitration hearing is scheduled for tomorrow. His case and PK Subban‘s (which we wrote about earlier today) are the only ones still to be resolved. (The only one to actually be heard by an arbitrator was Vladimir Sobotka’s, and that was a unique case.)

Spaling was part of the James Neal trade between Pittsburgh and Nashville in June. The 25-year-old forward had 13 goals and 19 assists in 71 games for the Predators last season, and Penguins general manager Jim Rutherford called him a “very versatile player” who was a “very important” part of the Neal deal.

  1. JoeAvg - Jul 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    “His case and PK Subban‘s are the only ones still to be resolved.

    Isn’t Brandon Sutter’s hearing scheduled for tomorrow also? Didn’t hear anything about that being resolved.

    • Jason Brough - Jul 30, 2014 at 12:26 PM

      Not sure where you heard that. He didn’t file for arb.

      • JoeAvg - Jul 30, 2014 at 12:34 PM

        Hmmm…. Now that you mention it, perhaps I do have my wires crossed. Sigh. Age creeping up on me. How do you stop that process – anyone?

      • thesportsjudge - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:41 PM

        @JoeAvg Ask any Montreal fan. They are still living in times like 50 years ago.

      • blomfeld - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:29 AM

        Rattus Pattus …

        One of the largest and most ‘vile’ muroids, it is a brown or grey rodent with a body up to 25 cm (10 in) long, and a similar tail length; the male weighs on average 350 g (12 oz) and the female 250 g (9 oz). Thought to have originated in northern China, this rodent has now spread to all continents except Antarctica, and is the dominant rat in Europe and much of North America, making it by at least this particular definition the most successful mammal on the planet after humans. With rare exceptions, the brown rat lives wherever humans live, particularly in urban areas and on sports internet sites.

    • patthehockeyfan - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:53 PM

      How does one stop the process of aging?

      There’s one alternative to aging, and it isn’t to get younger.

      • blomfeld - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:30 AM

        Rattus Pattus …

        One of the largest and most ‘vile’ muroids, it is a brown or grey rodent with a body up to 25 cm (10 in) long, and a similar tail length; the male weighs on average 350 g (12 oz) and the female 250 g (9 oz). Thought to have originated in northern China, this rodent has now spread to all continents except Antarctica, and is the dominant rat in Europe and much of North America, making it by at least this particular definition the most successful mammal on the planet after humans. With rare exceptions, the brown rat lives wherever humans live, particularly in urban areas and on sports internet sites.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:24 PM

      sutter has rejected 3 offers thus far. doesn’t seem like he wants to be a penguin. its the jordan staal complex all over again. I don’t blame him, would love for them to find a way to keep him but at the same time, you cant overpay him to make consolations for lack of minutes either. plus what 25 year old wants to sign a 3 or 4 year deal in his prime where he knows he will only be getting 15 minutes a game. he’s played himself into a corner though, he’s by definition the perfect 3C and those guys don’t make over 4 million which I think should be the absolute max offer from the pens.

      • cliffatola - Jul 30, 2014 at 4:46 PM

        I disagree on what they pay a 3rd line C, just ask Dave Bolland 5.5m for 5 years.

      • JoeAvg - Jul 30, 2014 at 5:03 PM

        Not sure I buy that he wants out. Looking at it from another angle he could just playing his hand the best he can (he doesn’t hold an overly strong one). He knows the GM likes him. Perhaps that’s why arbitration wasn’t elected for in the first place – to give the Pens more time to clear some cap space. Agents are no fools and they could just be playing the waiting game.

        All we can do is speculate.

      • c9castine - Jul 31, 2014 at 12:48 AM

        That doesnt make sense. If didnt want to be a penguin hew ould have filed for arbitration. He knows thats not a good idea because although he looks like hes going to havea breakout year he only scored 11 goals last year and was a minus player.

        Need to have a better understanding of howt his process works. Hes restricted, staal was unrestricted

      • blomfeld - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:30 AM

        Rattus Pattus …

        One of the largest and most ‘vile’ muroids, it is a brown or grey rodent with a body up to 25 cm (10 in) long, and a similar tail length; the male weighs on average 350 g (12 oz) and the female 250 g (9 oz). Thought to have originated in northern China, this rodent has now spread to all continents except Antarctica, and is the dominant rat in Europe and much of North America, making it by at least this particular definition the most successful mammal on the planet after humans. With rare exceptions, the brown rat lives wherever humans live, particularly in urban areas and on sports internet sites.

  2. lowenni - Jul 30, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    No way he gets 2.85 mil, and yes I know asking for that much is how negotiations work. Id say something like 1.9 is fair for a guy who hasn’t really proven himself yet but definitely has potential. He can sorta do it all and has underrated offensive skills–he can probably put up 35-40 points for the Pens if he and the team is healthy. What I’m really excited to see is how Hornqvist turns out for them, simply put, the guy just scores–but he works his ass off and takes as much abuse in front of the net as anyone. Hes a bit like a mini Tomas Holstrom. Definitely has the ability to pot 30+ goals playing next to Sid or Geno.

    • c9castine - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:28 AM

      spot on post there.

      except i dunno, negotiation or not, hes nutso if he thinks hes getting 2.85 anywhere

    • blomfeld - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:31 AM

      Rattus Lowennus …

      One of the largest and most ‘vile’ muroids, it is a brown or grey rodent with a body up to 25 cm (10 in) long, and a similar tail length; the male weighs on average 350 g (12 oz) and the female 250 g (9 oz). Thought to have originated in northern China, this rodent has now spread to all continents except Antarctica, and is the dominant rat in Europe and much of North America, making it by at least this particular definition the most successful mammal on the planet after humans. With rare exceptions, the brown rat lives wherever humans live, particularly in urban areas and on sports internet sites.

  3. tarotsujimoto74 - Jul 30, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    How many times have their been arbitration cases when it’s for a player that hasn’t played for the team involved?

    • jpelle82 - Jul 30, 2014 at 1:35 PM

      good question. not exactly the best way to start a relationship….

    • c9castine - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:29 AM

      bad stigma on arbitration i see…

      i think a lot of people are confused as to what this process is really and why people use it.

      • tarotsujimoto74 - Jul 31, 2014 at 11:28 AM

        You don’t hear about arbitration in hockey improving relations.

  4. hockey412 - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:05 PM

    Will love to see how they work this out with what they have left, without a trade.

  5. rushledger - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:32 PM

    Rutherford will look pretty bad if spalling doesn’t play for Pittsburgh this season.

    • thesportsjudge - Jul 30, 2014 at 2:41 PM

      Not if it was an intended salary dump all along.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 30, 2014 at 3:05 PM

      are you suggesting he goes to arbitration, gets a contract awarded to him and then commits career suicide by refusing to lace them up? not following….unless you mean he’s traded but I don’t see how that would be a terrible thing either….

      • cliffatola - Jul 30, 2014 at 4:48 PM

        It depends on who filed for arbitration, if the team files they are bound to it if the player files and the arbiter awards a deal the team doesn’t want to pay they can just walk away and he becomes a UFA free to do what he wants.

      • blomfeld - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:33 AM

        Rattus Cliffus …

        One of the largest and most ‘vile’ muroids, it is a brown or grey rodent with a body up to 25 cm (10 in) long, and a similar tail length; the male weighs on average 350 g (12 oz) and the female 250 g (9 oz). Thought to have originated in northern China, this rodent has now spread to all continents except Antarctica, and is the dominant rat in Europe and much of North America, making it by at least this particular definition the most successful mammal on the planet after humans. With rare exceptions, the brown rat lives wherever humans live, particularly in urban areas and on sports internet sites.

      • c9castine - Jul 31, 2014 at 1:33 AM

        to expand on what cliffatola said, i wonder if that RFA turned UFA can go back and sign with the team he was released from.

        say arbiter awards 2.2 million (reasonably possible) and Pens walk away and Spaling goes UFA. then, turns out all anybody is willing to pay him is like 1.7 over 3 years. turns out 1.9 was as good as it gets.

  6. plazzman - Jul 31, 2014 at 10:28 AM

    2.85 million? Seriously??? 13 goals and 32 points in 71 games last year and a total of 2 goals in 28 Playoff games and he wants almost 3 million a year? After making 1.5 million last year, I’d say the Pens offer is a reasonable starting point and wouldn’t go any higher than 2 million, if that. Spalling needs to earn that significant of a pay raise!

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