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DeKeyser: ‘Won’t be any problems’ with new deal in Detroit

Jul 28, 2014, 10:56 AM EST

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Danny DeKeyser‘s been without a new deal for over a month now, but he isn’t stressed about the uncertainty of his situation.

“There won’t be any problems,” DeKeyser said of his contractual status with Detroit, per MLive.com. “It’ll be done before camp. So, no one needs to worry about that.”

Detroit has always been notoriously slow on re-inking its restricted free agents, often letting negotiations stretch deep into the summer (last year, Gustav Nyquist didn’t sign until Aug. 20). Of Detroit’s three RFAs this offseason, only one — Riley Sheahan — has inked a deal, agreeing to a two-year, $1.9 million extension on July 1; Tomas Tatar and DeKeyser still remain unsigned.

That said, it’s obvious that retaining DeKesyer is important. The 24-year-old rearguard that blossomed in his second professional season last year — despite missing significant time with a separated shoulder, he racked up 23 points in 65 games while averaging 21:38 TOI. Technically considered a rookie, DeKeyser finished second among all freshman D in minutes per game (only Winnipeg’s Jacob Trouba played more.)

As such, it’ll be curious to see what kind of money he gets. DeKeyser’s first NHL contract was a two-year, $2.7 million pact and he’s going to get a nice bump with his second one — but how big? Detroit has approximately $8 million in cap space for him, Tatar and veteran UFA Daniel Alfredsson, but must be mindful of next offseason when it’ll have four RFAs to negotiate with: Nyquist, Joakim Andersson, Tomas Jurco and Brendan Smith.

  1. pjblake2redwings - Jul 28, 2014 at 11:26 AM

    hopefully we can lock Danny D up to a long term contract, at least 5 years! He will he a top pair dman for the Wings soon

  2. redwings4013 - Jul 28, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Can’t wait for this guy to get in his prime. Already a great dman will be better to. Hope he gets long term. In a few years we will have great defence and will finally get right handed ones with marchenko and Sproul. Ouellette,dekeyser,Sproul,marchenko will soon be 4 of the best defenders can’t wait for about 3 years for that. Except the problem is datsuyk will be gone soon.

  3. redwings4013 - Jul 28, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Can’t wait for him to get in his prime. Already an amazing defender and will get better. Hopefully we can lock him up to long term. He will be our top defender soon. We will have amazing defence man and finally some right handed with Sproul and Marchenko then left handed with smith and dekeyser. Gonna have an awesome futre on Defence and O with mantha and larkin and Sheahan and jurco,nyquist,Tatar,pulkenin only thing I’m not looking forward to is our goaltending and Hank and Dats leaving

  4. rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    If I’m Sharks’ GM Wilson and I’ve got the signal that Alfredsson wants to return, then I’d be making a play for the kids. Multi-year offer sheet @ 3.3mil per to DeKeyser, who would probably sign it knowing full well that Holland will match it 7 days week. With that locked in, make the same offer to Tatar, which Holland would also probably have to match with some indigestion. That would leave only about 1.4mil for Alfredsson, who would either a) take a bonus-heavy one year deal with the Wings, b) look elsewhere (for more guaranteed money and better chance of winning), or c) retire reluctantly. Option a would put Holland in a tough position next off-season when he has to lock up the others, option b might be interesting for Sharks (failing all else…), option c probably wouldn’t help Holland’s ability to draw free agents in the future if nothing else

    • mshantz22 - Jul 28, 2014 at 12:03 PM

      Nice write-up on how Wilson could be a douche to Holland. The sharks already have 14 forwards for their roster, and if you are implying that Alfie would go to San Jose (which is ludicrous to begin with) because they have a better chance of winning, then you sir are either insane, or not conscious during the 2014 playoffs. If Wilson was smart he’d try to get himself a goalie upgrade of sorts.

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 12:10 PM

        Wilson is on thin ice. Holland might not be faring much better. To potentially save his job at the expense of a guy who inherited a dynasty…a no go apparently. Especially with John Scott, Mike Brown, and Desjardins being counted among those 14 forwards, I guess there’s really no room, eh?

        “not conscious during the 2014 playoffs.” Ouch…maybe you’d like that one back? Lol

    • adamal17 - Jul 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM

      Danny D and Tatar cannot negotiate with any other team aside from the Red Wings. Both were extended qualifying offers before the June 30th deadline and accepted them. Accepting them doesn’t mean that you are taking the money offer, but it does mean that you agree to only negotiate with them. This is why the Wings rarely ever sign any RFA before August. Anyone that is giving Holland sh!t over not signing these guys needs to step back and realize that it’s the summer…they won’t get a paycheck until September regardless of when they sign and even though Holland had a crappy summer so far, he’s not an idiot. I told you before, rbbbaron, offer sheets are a thing of the past and they rarely happen. Especially when players like the team they play for and accept qualifying offers so they cannot negotiate on an offer sheet…

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:29 PM

        “Both were extended qualifying offers before the June 30th deadline and accepted them. Accepting them doesn’t mean that you are taking the money offer, but it does mean that you agree to only negotiate with them.”
        Could you point me to where you got that information? Both about DeKeyser/Tatar ACCEPTING those qualifying offers and that second sentence? I had a quick look in the CBA and couldn’t find that second bit…only the contrary. So maybe you can point me to it?

        A little less legalese on Wikipedia: “If a player accepts a qualifying offer, he then signs a one year contract with his current team under the terms of the offer. If the player rejects the qualifying offer, or has not yet accepted it he is able to negotiate offer sheets with other teams. “

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:35 PM

        “I told you before, rbbbaron, offer sheets are a thing of the past and they rarely happen.”

        So what’s happened over the last 17 months since the last one that has made these offer sheets obsolete? As if there hasn’t been an average of one per year since the cap era started (and as if there hasn’t been a period of two years without one before…)

      • adamal17 - Jul 28, 2014 at 2:06 PM

        rbbbaron- Replying to you is almost like replying to a toddler…but i’ll humor you. Winging it in Motown, Mlive, the Free Press, Detroitredwings.com and yes even NBC Sports all reported that every that the wings extended and each player accepted the initial offer…this was in June. The CBA (on the NHL website) explains these situations very thoroughly as well. If you want to use Wikipedia as a reference then you may want to read their disclaimer.
        I guess you can think what you want about offer sheets as well. Aside from the laughable Penner offer sheet (where Anaheim looked like geniuses by not matching) Not a single player has been given up by their team in the salary cap era. The last two offers were for two of the best free agents available in those years. In the case of both of them the player was trying to squeeze their current team for the money they deserved. Weber is one of the best players in the NHL and the preds were cash strapped…O’Reilly signed the offer sheet with Calgary following a statement by him saying that he knew the Avs would match, which they did within a day…so he used the Flames.
        For arguments sake though I will humor you again…from 1998 to 06 there were zero offer sheets. on July 9th 2010 there was an offer sheet to Hjalmarsson and the next one was to Weber on July 18th 2012. If my math is correct (and believe me…I double checked) that’s a bit more than two years.
        Players like Dekeyser and Tatar aren’t the typical targets of offer sheets. They NEVER complain about their team and have been progressed within the organization in a good manor. Teams are starting to realize that: #1. players are only using other teams with offer sheets to get a contract with their own team. #2 offer sheets just p!ss off other GM’s. #3 the new CBA is written to help teams retain their drafted players and detour offer sheets.
        It’s the end of July and zero offer sheets have been seriously even thought of. the “average” of one per year was in the old CBA that sort of encouraged them in a way…now the payment for taking a teams RFA have gone up and the CBA offers so many types of arbitration and qualifying offers that it’s not worth it…offer sheets are pointless and at least 95% of NHL employees would admit to that.

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 2:17 PM

        adamal17– talking to you is like talking to a wall. Work on your reading comprehension: I asked you for a specific reference in the CBA. Thanks for dodging that.

        “Winging it in Motown, Mlive, the Free Press, Detroitredwings.com and yes even NBC Sports all reported that every that the wings extended and each player accepted the initial offer…this was in June.”
        Link please. They were EXTENDED qualifying offers. EXTENDED & ACCEPTED are two different words.

        The wikipedia quote was to help you avoid the legalese of the CBA which I figured would be too much for you. You’re helping confirm my suspicion.

        The middle part of your post was bluster and is relevant to neither my argument nor your own.

        “If my math is correct (and believe me…I double checked) that’s a bit more than two years.”
        Your math is correct, very good. But your history is wrong. Ryan O’Reilly, end of Feb. 2013.

        And the rest of that post is a rabbit hole I’m not going to venture into for time’s sake.

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 2:32 PM

        Clarification, as the math part is ambiguous:
        “For arguments sake though I will humor you again…from 1998 to 06 there were zero offer sheets. on July 9th 2010 there was an offer sheet to Hjalmarsson and the next one was to Weber on July 18th 2012. If my math is correct (and believe me…I double checked) that’s a bit more than two years.”
        So your math is July 18th 2012 minus July 9th 2010 equals more than 2 years. Great. And that’s related to what I wrote…how?
        If your point was that 2006 minus 1998 equals more than 2 years. Very good again. But again, how is that related to what I wrote?

      • adamal17 - Jul 28, 2014 at 4:40 PM

        I’m not going to go through the entire CBA to appease you…what i referenced was one of the outlined differences by the NHL and NHLPA when it was signed. Go do the work yourself. It was reported on the NHL website, TSN, ESPN, NBC and just about each media outlet. You can go and google the acceptance of the qualifying offers yourself if you want. I’m not here to hold anyone’s hand in finding things out. It was also reported on June 30th on NHL network for the pre free agent frenzy stuff…So it could be told to the public who could and could not be extended an offer sheet. The middle “bluster” you refer to on my time in between offer sheets is to you saying there hasn’t been two years without an offer sheet…or maybe you can’t remember that. I also didn’t reference O’Reilly in that time frame (and you did for some reason)…that was Weber and Hjalmarsson. O’Reilly was a year later in the lock out year and there hasn’t been one since…since the player exposed how much of a joke they are. If you want me to post a link to something I’d be glad to pull a blomfeld and give you an Elvis video. Would that cheer you up?

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 5:15 PM

        “I’m not going to go through the entire CBA to appease you…what i referenced was one of the outlined differences by the NHL and NHLPA when it was signed.”

        And BS. Thanks for trying.

        “It was reported on the NHL website, TSN, ESPN, NBC and just about each media outlet. You can go and google the acceptance of the qualifying offers yourself if you want.”

        Aside from being pretty damn sure that they didn’t accept I the qualifying offers (otherwise they’d already have deals in place), I did search for it. No luck, that’s why I’m calling your BS. Nice try again.

        “I’m not here to hold anyone’s hand in finding things out.”
        The search takes about 10 seconds…lol, good cop out. I think we’ve got a BSer on our hands.

        “It was also reported on June 30th on NHL network for the pre free agent frenzy stuff…”
        Lol, good cop out.
        “So it could be told to the public who could and could not be extended an offer sheet.”
        Might I suggest that you review the regulations yourself. Come back when you know something.

        “The middle “bluster” you refer to on my time in between offer sheets is to you saying there hasn’t been two years without an offer sheet…or maybe you can’t remember that.”
        Wrong again. Read what I wrote, and then read again, and again if you need to:
        “So what’s happened over the last 17 months since the last one that has made these offer sheets obsolete? As if there hasn’t been an average of one per year since the cap era started (and as if there hasn’t been a period of two years without one before…)”

        “I also didn’t reference O’Reilly in that time frame (and you did for some reason)…that was Weber and Hjalmarsson. O’Reilly was a year later in the lock out year and there hasn’t been one since…since the player exposed how much of a joke they are.”
        (very much beside the point)

        “If you want me to post a link to something I’d be glad to pull a blomfeld and give you an Elvis video. Would that cheer you up?”
        Is that the best you can do to save face here?

    • magicgary1960m - Jul 28, 2014 at 5:52 PM

      You’re not with it are you? First off offer sheet time has passed. And second since Dekeyser has less then 3 years in as RFA he can not be Offer Sheeted And third DeKeyser would’nt sign an offer sheet any ways and If you think that offering DeKeyser a $3,3 million offer sheet would keep Detroit from matching it then you’re delusional Detroit would easilly match that and still have around $2 million to resign Alfredsson plus the bonus could be added the following year and not hurt this years cap.

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 6:22 PM

        “You’re not with it are you? First off offer sheet time has passed.”
        Prove that.

        “And second since Dekeyser has less then 3 years in as RFA he can not be Offer Sheeted ”
        Wrong again. DeKeyser is listed as a Group 2 FA (http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=724639)

        “And third DeKeyser would’nt sign an offer sheet any ways”
        Right, that’s for you to determine…

        “and If you think that offering DeKeyser a $3,3 million offer sheet would keep Detroit from matching it then you’re delusional Detroit would easilly match that and still have around $2 million to resign Alfredsson plus the bonus could be added the following year and not hurt this years cap.”
        Jesus f$^%ing Christ, go back and read what I wrote.

      • bozgood - Jul 28, 2014 at 7:47 PM

        Call each other all the names you want but leave Jesus out of it rbbbaron. HE won’t win you any arguments. Especially with that kind of language.

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 11:18 PM

        OMFG

      • adamal17 - Jul 29, 2014 at 12:05 AM

        Rbbbaron reminds me of Cartman from South Park. Wants you to prove EVERYTHING that anyone with NHL Network or that can read threads on NBC sports NHL. It’s getting to be a bit hilarious when I go back and red comments of his with all thumbs downs and every one else’s in the thread (not just mine) having thumbs up. I guess if this were a game of pick up hockey when you toss sticks in the middle the person tossing each one aside might take a quick peek to make sure his is tossed away from his team…or they’d make him be the goalie.
        As promised from before, Here’s my best Blomfeld impression…

      • rbbbaron - Jul 29, 2014 at 3:20 AM

        Heaven forbid adamal17 has to provide a link that takes 10 seconds to find (or not;-)

        Sorry about your having to look stupid here. But you’ll have to understand that that comes with the territory of being a BSer.

        And about those thumbs– I can’t see them because of my scriptblocker, but I suspect that at least 1 of each of those on my post and yours belongs to none other than yourself… I didn’t catch you giving yourself a pat on the back did I? Lol and you were saying something about a toddler earlier?
        Again, whatever you think will help you save face.

  5. mshantz22 - Jul 28, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Brown and Desjardins are good 4th liners. Point is that Holland won’t let DeKeyser and Tatar go, and Alfie’s family is committed to living in Detroit. Although I am thoroughly disappointed in Holland’s trades and signing decisions, his system has managed to consistently draft a lot of talent over the last 20 years.

  6. g0nephishin - Jul 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM

    Holland “inherited” a dynasty????? Interesting…..

    • tmoore4075 - Jul 28, 2014 at 12:59 PM

      He inherited…one Cup…and built them into a dynasty. Helped them get a 2nd Cup in a row, tried very hard (trading for Cheli, Clark, Samuelsson, Ranford) to try to get the 3-peat. Did a crazy job getting all the stars to the team from 01-04 and then ya know…took a President’s Trophy winning $70mil payroll to $39mil because of the cap and…that’s right…won the President’s Trophy again. Not that that trophy means a whole lot but when you cut your payroll in nearly half, and have a MUCH better record…that’s impressive. Then when everything thought they were done coming out of the lockout, the win two President’s Trophies in 3 years, go to the WCF or beyond 3 straight years, Cup Finals twice and one Cup. Not quite inheriting that.

      • g0nephishin - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:06 PM

        Oh I know, and he actually didn’t even really “inherit” that one cup, he was the assistant GM at that time, it’s not like he was new to the team after that win. My post was in response to rbbbaron stating “Wilson is on thin ice. Holland might not be faring much better. To potentially save his job at the expense of a guy who inherited a dynasty…a no go apparently.” I wish he would bless us with more of his vast Wings knowledge…laughing is helping me through my Monday.

      • tmoore4075 - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:15 PM

        Oh I know it wasn’t your comment. Just replying to you…and indirectly to the moron who said he did inherit a dynasty
        .

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:21 PM

        Your right. Holland built those teams. Where would they have been had Holland not drafted those Hall-o-Famers? …

    • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:18 PM

      If a monkey would take over a club with #5, #19, #14, #91, #55,…(#s of the other hall of famers), the Grind line, and then some, that monkey would be hard-pressed not to win a couple cups.

      • shaundre93 - Jul 28, 2014 at 2:25 PM

        I bet you’d find a way to muck it up

      • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 6:38 PM

        Good one man

  7. g0nephishin - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:43 PM

    So wait…Holland “inherited” a dynasty, but you admit that he was involved with the drafting of those “Hall-o-Famers”? Look bud, I understand that the Wings have/had an incredible scouting staff, and that before the salary cap era, the Wing’s were icing hall of fame lines night in and night out. However, to say that he “inherited” a team that he had already been involved with since the 80’s is silly. The jealousy is strong in your posts though, it’ll be ok, you have John Scott to fight people and warm the bench!! Maybe he’ll get another point this year!!! Things are looking up!!

    • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:45 PM

      “So wait…Holland “inherited” a dynasty, but you admit that he was involved with the drafting of those “Hall-o-Famers”?”

      Lol, you missed it “bud”.

      “The jealousy is strong in your posts though, it’ll be ok, you have John Scott to fight people and warm the bench!! Maybe he’ll get another point this year!!! Things are looking up!!”
      I’m not really sure who you’re talking to here, lol

  8. tmoore4075 - Jul 28, 2014 at 1:52 PM

    And Tatar has been signed to a new three-year deal. Come on Wilson, where were you? ;)

    • rbbbaron - Jul 28, 2014 at 2:06 PM

      Good thing ;-)

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