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Avs and O’Reilly agree on two-year deal, but questions remain

Jul 23, 2014, 10:23 AM EDT

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Another deal has been done without arbitration, and this is a big one. The Colorado Avalanche have come to terms with forward Ryan O’Reilly on a two-year contract reportedly worth $5.8 million in the first year and $6.2 million in the second.

That’s a cap hit of $6 million for O’Reilly, the same as Matt Duchene‘s. The difference is, O’Reilly is only signed for two more years and Duchene is locked up through 2018-19.

So there still be questions about the relationship between O’Reilly and the Avs. The 23-year-old can now become an unrestricted free agent in the summer of 2016, with the ability to walk away from Colorado for nothing in return, a la Paul Stastny.

While a long-term contract could still be worked out between now and then, don’t expect the trade speculation to go away if one isn’t.

Update:

  1. dipthatchip - Jul 23, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    ’bout damn time

  2. stepanup - Jul 23, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    I wonder if he has an inferiority complex as it relates to Duchene. Seemed like he had to be paid the same. Even though Duchene is a point/game gamebreaker, while O’Reilly had 64 points, and for all the talk of him winning a Selke in the future, was -1 on the season. Hard to say he’s of the same value.

  3. bcsteele - Jul 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Unless he tanks in the next two years, he’ll get paid 7 mil plus with longer term when this deal is up or he’ll walk, because someone will with the market the way he is. He’ll be 25 years old and either in his prime, or just entering his true prime. Hopefully the Avs get over the “we don’t want anyone making more than Duchene” mentality.

    Everyone needs to understand since the lockout and the new CBA the market has shifted. It’s not that I think O’Reilly is worth 7+ million, its that the market has demanded it. Bettman was smart to as for limits on contracts, but that means an increase in “pay per year.” It’s simple logic. So everyone referencing contracts from before the new CBA needs to stop and realize, the Duchene and Tavares contracts, and many others, are simply bargains from the previous era.

    And to hammer my point, wait till Stamkos gets paid 12+ mil year when his current deal expires. Because he will.

    • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM

      In 2 years, $7 will be a good number for ROR and I don’t think the Avs will have any trouble paying what he is worth. They have never had trouble signing anyone! Perhaps the old wounds are healing and ROR is buying into the team structure. Sakic is working his magic!

  4. jernster21 - Jul 23, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    I don’t think this changes anything to be honest. An arbitrator would have potentially given O’Reilly less than what he just accepted so he decided to take it. Getting him locked up for two years gives the Avs a better chance of getting a good return in a trade than if they went through arbitration. Time will tell.

    • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:02 AM

      This is a win win. ROR came to his senses and realized the $6.5 this year was a fluke. Avs realize they have to pay yet I believe they always have believed that. This is a case where Arb did what it is supposed to do, make each side realize that meeting in the middle could be better than the Arb’s decision.

  5. avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Solid and about exactly what I said they should do. Seems fair for both sides. Time for ROR to move into the next tier of players and the Avs to benefit from it. ROR is worth this number as a solid winger or 1C (if Duchene got hurt) or 2C if Mackinnon is winning draws. This is a great signing.

  6. avfanforlife - Jul 23, 2014 at 10:54 AM

    Fair deal in my opinion. Way too much has been put into this situation as far as his relationship w the team. Leading scorer last year, improving constantly, 110% ALL the time on both ends of the ice, last one off the ice nightly (well, Giggy too), constant PITA for opposing teams……
    ROR clearly knows that there is a playing side, and a business side, and he compartmentalizes the two. That concept seems too hard to understand for many players, media, and fans. Does he have a “hungry” agent and family? Yes. But this guy plays his *** off every game and I seriously doubt that he is unliked by anybody in the locker room. Personally, I hope his #’s continue to go up, and he proves his worth in 2 years for a couple mil more. GO AV’s and sign Barrie already!

    • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:05 AM

      Spot on! I also feel the Avs have been fair and hopefully time will heal the perceived wounds if any. ROR is a pro on the ice and liked by all his team mates and coaches. Time to move on get to winnin’ the Cup, AGAIN!

      Go Avalanche.

    • bricevjohnson - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:29 AM

      A sigh of relief, at least for 2 more seasons. Can’t wait for the season to start now.

  7. valoisvipers - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:06 AM

    The Aves can’t lose this guy in 2 years as a UFA as they just did with Stastny. Both are great young players with high value to the team and if you can’t sign them you must trade them and get picks or prospects in return.

  8. purpleguy - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:13 AM

    Seems fair — too bad they had to do the pre-arbitration stare-down to get there though.

    • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:21 AM

      Indeed but they got there this time. Instead of of a holdout, offer sheet, etc. Arbitration works. Both sides can lose.

  9. phillyphanatic77 - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    Thank god the Avs finally came to their senses. It’s not that O’Reilly is as good as Duchene it’s just that his market value was on par with Duchene’s cap hit (which should be a bargain going forward). I’m glad Sakic and the front office realized their “salary structure” wasn’t worth an unhappy star player just bc they didn’t want to dish out an extra half million. I still think O’Reilly walks in two years (when a team is gonna offer him huge money) bc there’s clearly a reluctance by the Colorado organization to pay him what the market demands. And with Mackinnon coming up for a new deal at the same time I expect Sakic to focus his resources on the kid with the higher ceiling. Even if they can afford both; it just seems like neither side has truly been happy with one another.

    If that ends up happening you’d have to question the Avs reluctance to accept Calgary’s compensation. If they don’t want to pay him what he deserves and don’t trade him people will look back on that decision as a huge mistake. Of course they could resign him and it would be no issue but based on past tenuous situations it looks like it may be difficult to stop ROR from testing free agency, but things can change in two years.

    • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:32 AM

      Thank god ROR finally came to his senses. It’s not that the Avs were not willing to pay, they just have a great sense of what a player is worth, to them. You keep missing the fact they have not had trouble signing anyone besides ROR!

      ROR won’t be allowed to walk. He’ll be locked up long term or traded.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jul 23, 2014 at 12:18 PM

        You can’t say O’Reilly came to his senses when the team settled on a deal they were clearly trying to avoid. It seems clear to me that the Avs were concerned about the potential deal awarded ROR by the arbitrator; otherwise they would’ve stuck to their guns.

        And I’m not missing that point… there’s a clear disagreement between the two sides on what ROR is worth, so who’s to say it won’t happen again? If the Avs are in the midst of a playoff run in two years, with a chance at the Cup, are they really gonna deal a young top-6 fixture? And is a team going to give up acceptable value for a player who might walk after his “rental”? That’s the conundrum the Avs are in. And it’s not as if they haven’t let a key forward walk before (after refusing to meet his financial demands)… Stastny anyone? That’s why it may seem like a gigantic mistake to have not taken all those high picks from the Flames. To say O’Reilly wont be “allowed” to walk is crazy. The Avs have worked themselves into a corner where they either trade him now, trade him in two years as a deadline rental (at reduced value, see Vanek to the Habs), meet his ever-growing financial demands, or let him walk for nothing.

      • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 12:47 PM

        Clearly you don’t understand. How do you know what the Avs were trying to avoid? Were you part of the negotiations? O’Reilly asked for $6.75 based on an inflated number that was a fluke. The Avs asked for the CBA mandated minimum but that never meant they were not willing to go up. Clearly they were willing to go up and pay a fair value or they absolutely would have gone to arb. Why not? The worst that could happen is an arb gives an out of whack decision based on a silly number. Perhaps ROR realized the odds were not in his favor based on ALL the comp data out there. The reality is more likely both sides want to keep working towards a fair deal and patch up their differences. There are way too many little tidbits of info you are not privy to. I do have some inside info, BTW.

        You have to look at the Stastny situation in full and you are not. Again, not privy to all the info. I live here, I have that inside info. Stastny is a center and not a 3rd or 4th line center. Duchene is the 1C, the Avs want Mackinnon to be the 2C. How do you pay Stastny $6.5-$7 million to be the 3C? They let him walk for lots of reasons, some of which were Stastny’s choosing to go home to St. Louis.

        O’reilly will get traded or signed to a long term deal long before is gets close. There is no longer a disagreement about what ROR is worth. they both just agreed to a contract for two years. That means they agreed!

        You should stick to speculating about your troubled team.

      • jernster21 - Jul 23, 2014 at 12:33 PM

        They weren’t trying to avoid paying him 6 million, they were trying to avoid paying him 6.5 million.

      • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 12:53 PM

        Indeed! See all my posts about it being fair and a win win. I think the deal is about where the Arb would have arrived only it is for 2 years. So a plus for the deal.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jul 23, 2014 at 2:49 PM

        Oh so because you live near Denver you have access to some kind of untapped information fountain? You know the internet makes location essentially a non-factor when it comes to info? I have access to all the same things as you.

        It’s true that the matter is settled at this point, but the fact that it’s only ANOTHER bridge deal points to the fact that the two sides disagree on long-term value. And if O’Reilly keeps improving, while the cap keeps rising, his value will only go up. The Avs and ROR are 2/2 when it comes to contentious negotiations and it will only get worse when they’re trying to keep him from unrestricted free agency. You can keep telling yourself that a long-term deal or trade will happen long before this two-year deal is up but I’d imagine most folks would use logic when examining those possibilities… like I said either the Avs trade him now (or during the 1st year) when his value is highest or they face diminishing returns. No team will give up what you perceive as fair value for a player who’s going to walk at the end of the season. The Isles made a huge mistake when they traded a boatload for Vanek without the chance of him resigning. And then they got far worse back from the Habs bc they were up against a wall and didn’t want to lose all that for essentially nothing. It’s not an exact comparison but it’s a good example of the value O’Reilly will have early on versus as the trade deadline approaches that 2nd year. And if the Avs think O’Reilly’s asking price on a long-term deal will go down they’re gonna be in for a rude awakening. It’s rumored that ROR wanted a long-term (7 or 8 years) deal for around 6.5-7 per… the Avs didn’t want to do that (which I get), but if they do wish to resign him they’re gonna have to go at, or most likely above, that 7 million. So Colorado might have pushed off a long-term deal now in favor of a more expensive one down the road. Look at what’s happening with Subban… the Habs could’ve had him long-term for 5 or 6 per, now they’re looking at 7.5-10.

        As for my “troubled team”, the Flyers (for better or worse) rarely have contentious negotiations. Players want to stay and the Flyers pay… sometimes overpay, but still, see how easy the Giroux extension was? They’re a mid-level eastern playoff team now but as they start shedding contracts, their young blueliners develop, and their forwards continue their upward trajectory they’ll be dangerous.

      • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 3:04 PM

        You ever sit in the Avs Alumni box? You ever even been to an Avs game? You have any former teammates in the NHL? Any of them, play for the Avs? One of mine also played for Philly.

        You make a lot of unfounded assumptions. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts!

        See ya dude. Enjoy the Avs-Philly game November 8th. I’ll probably be at the game on NY Eve.

      • mb30forlife - Jul 23, 2014 at 5:13 PM

        They didn’t have a probably resigning anyone? Then why did Stastny…. one of their better players hit the free agency market?

      • avscup - Jul 23, 2014 at 5:18 PM

        Hey stupid, glad you came around. What happened with ROR? Want me to re-post all your non-sense?

        They let Stastny walk because they couldn’t afford him, ROR and Mackinnon in a couple years. Duchene is the 1C, Mackinnon is the 2C, and ROR could be either C if needed. Can you justify a $7 3C?

        You need to pay closer attention jabroni!

      • tved12 - Jul 24, 2014 at 1:43 PM

        Dude, you never quit throwing around your “credentials.” Inferiority complex?

        Philly laid it out perfectly for you. There is no evidence that O’Reilly wanted a short term deal. I’m sure he took it because the arbitrator can go either way and he didn’t want to risk making less. That said, he knows he would have made more on the open market. So if/when his contract is coming up, the Avs will have to pony up the number he wants or he’ll leave somehow. This is pretty basic stuff man. You sound insecure and stupid saying, “I’ve got friends in the NHL.” That’s awesome, good for you. Kevin Garnett used to live a few blocks from me, so I’m clearly an NBA insider, right?

      • avscup - Jul 24, 2014 at 2:20 PM

        Dude…you sound, well like a dude. Get off the bong.

        Of course ROR wanted a long term deal for HIS terms. Every player wants that! Of course the arb could have given him less. That’s why the Avs chose arbitration! You are wrong that he could have got more on the open market though. He was an RFA. In two years if he is a UFA, he’ll get more.

        Why are you pointing out the obvious?

        Bottom line is both sides signed a deal they are happy with or they would not have signed. ROR has been paid as well as ANYONE from his draft class even though he wasn’t a first rounder. He is a great player and valuable asset to the AVS and they will work towards a long term deal and he will get paid his worth. He did this time around didn’t he?

        And no, I don’t have an inferiority complex. You?

      • tved12 - Jul 24, 2014 at 2:45 PM

        I get he’s a RFA, I’m saying if he was an UFA he would have gotten more.

        That said, I just don’t see how you’re so confident that ROR is happy now. He didn’t get what he wanted, settled on something so he wouldn’t get low balled in arbitration, and he did it short term to keep his options open. If he was “happy” with the offer, why didn’t he sign for 5+ years? That’s all I’m saying.

        In your back and forth with Philly you make it sound like it would be insane for ROR to be traded or walk. He lays out some very good points that are very possible. You just sound very confident that there’s no way that can happen, then you throw in the fact that you are “friends” with players in the league and you have some inside info that the rest of us don’t. And of course you insult him as if he has no idea but state your opinion as if it’s fact.

        Both scenarios could play out rather easily. Neither would surprise me. But I really want to know how you are so confident. Are you friends with ROR? Do you talk often?

      • avscup - Jul 24, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        Colorado has paid ROR $18,440,000 MILLION over his career. $10M in the past two seasons where one of those was a lockout. $12M over the next two. How unhappy do you believe ROR is?

        To put this in perspective, John Tavares has been paid $17,700,000 and Matt Duchene has been paid $15,200,000. They were 1st round picks in that draft that have significantly outperformed ROR. He should be nothing but ecstatic with the AVS! He has been way more than fairly compensated. More than anyone from his draft and he was a 2nd rounder!

        I am happy it is done. He is a good player and teammate and valuable part of the team. He comes to play every day and the Avs realize that so they have made him rich. End of story for me. All the rest is speculation. I believe the Avs and ROR will work out a deal. I am pretty sure ROR has a lot of respect for the organization and how rich they have made him. He likes his teammates, is a great role model and has a great relationship with Roy.

        As for Philly, he made the comment that the Avs came to their senses. Really? See the $18,440,000 million reasons they were negotiating tough. He really doesn’t get it and I don’t have time to explain to him why.

        As for my connections, those stay private because they are friends. I have many that have played and a few still are in the game and business of it. We talk. I have met ROR but no, we don’t talk often.

        Anyhow, this deal is done and all have said they are happy. They should be.

      • tved12 - Jul 24, 2014 at 4:40 PM

        I don’t disagree that he “should” be happy, as anybody who’s made $18,000,000 should be. But his history shows that what he’s been paid in the past makes no difference. It seems to me that ROR sees his annual salary as a sign of “respect”, and he feels he should be more “respected.”

        Again, I’m not saying that he should feel this way, but if we look at his past I would wager that he’s still not totally satisfied.

        At any rate, the deal is done. If I was an Avs fan, I’d be rooting for a long term deal as well. I just think in two years he’ll be wearing a different uniform. And to be perfectly honest, I think that will be good for the Avs because somebody will overpay.

      • avscup - Jul 24, 2014 at 4:51 PM

        What information do you have to lead you to believe that? All the info is conjecture from the media. ROR has never said anything but, I like the Avs, I want to be an Av, I like Colorado, I like the fans, I like Denver.

        Don’t confuse shrewd negotiations with happiness or unhappiness. They are not connected unless you believe the media. He has never said anything negative whatsoever. And his actions speak for themselves. He plays and works hard, he is a true pro. Never been in trouble. Not stupid about his money. Not a showboat. Performs. Does that seem like an unhappy 23 year old to you? Not me. 23 year olds that are unhappy do dumb things no matter how much money they have or not.

        As Sakic and Roy have publicly stated, the negotiations have been fair and respectful. I’m sure there is a plan in place and I have watched Sakic since 1994. I won’t bet against him. In fact I will bet by this time next summer, ROR will have a long term deal.

        If not, the payoff will be large as you say.

      • tved12 - Jul 24, 2014 at 4:59 PM

        That’s a fair point, it could just be the media planting those ideas. The other thing I consider is that he signed the offer sheet from Calgary. If he loves the Avs so much, why did he sign that sheet with a very bad team? It seems like he’s tenacious on the ice and a consummate professional but he doesn’t strike me as a guy who’s going to give a home town discount.

        I’m sure they have a plan. If the reports are true that he’s not happy about what he’s being paid, I believe he will be traded. But I believe the payoff will be large either way. Either the Avs will have to pay what he demands or move him to someone who will. It seems that he’s very interested in making the most money.

      • avscup - Jul 24, 2014 at 5:32 PM

        He signed the offer sheet because the Avs blew it and were being cheap back then. That was Gregg Sherman though, not Joe. ROR didn’t have a choice and he knew the Avs would match which they immediately did. There are very few hometown discounts in sports anymore. No more Kirby Puckett’s.

        What reports? I have not seen one word from ROR that he is unhappy with what he has been or will be paid, ever! Please send me a link if there is one but again, this is all speculation by people stirring the pot. He just got a $1M raise of AAV! The Avs have never had trouble paying anyone they WANT. Ever. People bring up Stastny but they made him a fair offer and were fine with him leaving. He would be the 3C. You cannot pay a 3c $7M!

      • tved12 - Jul 25, 2014 at 10:57 AM

        Excuse me, I’m thinking of the tweets his dad sent out. There have been reports that his dad and his agent aren’t happy, so never specifically ROR.

        Again, as I said, it may just be media speculation. But in this case I believe where there’s smoke there’s fire.

      • avscup - Jul 25, 2014 at 11:04 AM

        Yeah well daddy has proven to be kinda a dick. You can’t pick your parents…Just have to put up with them.

        Way more positive comments and actions from ROR than negative! And winning during the season kinda has a way of erasing the off season minutiae for all…

      • tved12 - Jul 25, 2014 at 11:48 AM

        I agree with you, I think ROR is a true professional. He can separate the business side from the playing side. I don’t care if you agree or disagree with how he does his negotiating/business, he certainly gives his all on the ice.

      • avscup - Jul 24, 2014 at 4:59 PM

        He’s been disrespected right into the top 75 salaries in the NHL. Ahead of Jerome Iginla whom ROR should be honored to play with this season.

        In all seriousness, I think you have the facts confused with the media conjecture.

      • tved12 - Jul 24, 2014 at 3:49 PM

        BTW, it’s good to have you back talking hockey. I haven’t been on PHT too much lately, but I look forward to a long season of back and forth with you Avscup.

    • valoisvipers - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:35 AM

      Well said PP77

  10. antkowiak666 - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    This next season is HUGE for O’Reilly.If he puts up even better numbers this season this will definately make the Avs decision on a long term deal that much easier.Then for sure he’ll get the money that he wants.

  11. 19to77 - Jul 23, 2014 at 12:27 PM

    Welp. Now O’Reilly’s next contract value is entirely on his shoulders. If he cracks 60 points two more times, the market will say $7m per season and the Avs will either have to suck it up and pay then or watch him become the next Statsny. If this season was a flash in the pan and he can’t live up to his own hype, he’ll play himself out of millions on what should be the most lucrative contract of his career. So the pressure’s on to play like a beast the next two years and earn a huge payout later.

  12. tjvalley - Jul 23, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    I don’t like kids that are demanding at young ages. I respect his talent but I don’t think it’s good for the team when players get more money hungry and are willing to jump ship it can’t make for good team comradary

  13. desertfan - Jul 23, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    30 G and 70 pts = 5 x $7M

  14. mb30forlife - Jul 23, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    They signed him Short term because they will and HAVE to lock up N-Mac. That is their biggest asset so they will look to see what they have in the cap space to keep both.

  15. dunc89 - Jul 23, 2014 at 8:11 PM

    Boys, boys, boys. Let’s take a step back for a second here. First of all, welcome back Ryan! I definitely thought this was going to arbitration so the two sides coming to terms on a deal is good news. They finally agreed on what his services are worth. 2 years for $12 mil is a good deal. The Avs upped their offer and Ryan’s side came down, it’s called a compromise. Neither side really won, neither side really lost. We’re going to be right back here next year with trade rumours and maybe even extension talk, and the year after. Does he stay long term? Seems more likely to me today than it has for a while now, but if he were to be traded at some point would I really be surprised? No. I’m a big fan of this bridge deal though. Let’s give him these two years to see what guy Ryan really is. Is he a perennial top line point producer, or is he a really good two way player more suited for a second line role? All I know is if in two years time he has produced similar 30 goal, 70 point seasons (I know it was 28 goals and 64 points last year but just rounding up a bit because he’s going to get better as he gets older, he’s not even in his prime yet) the Avs will have no problem paying this guy at least $7 mil/year for the duration of a long term contract because he has proven that he’s worth it. I’m a huge fan of O’Reilly but I wouldn’t be comfortable paying him that much after just one year of really solid production. He seems to have all the intangibles to be a great player, but to get paid $7+ mil you have to be more than just a really good two way player. He’s got to continue putting that puck in the net and racking up those points. Let’s let this play out guys.

    Second, can we stop making Paul Stastny out to be a loss this team can’t overcome? He’s a really nice player but if you’ve watched Colorado over the last couple years you know that he wasn’t worth that $6.6 cap hit he had, let alone $7. Are we going to miss his two way game, his prowess in the face off circle, and his great vision? Absolutely we will but he’s a good player, not a great player. Just like I said Duchene inflated O’Reilly’s numbers last year, I think playing with MacKinnon and Landeskog really helped Stastny. It is the likes of Duchene, O’Reilly, Landeskog, Johnson, MacKinnon and Varlamov that has this team on an upward trajectory. I really like Paul as a player, but losing him isn’t the end of the world.

    Just my two cents guys.

    Cheers!

  16. mrhyperpants - Jul 23, 2014 at 11:32 PM

    Time for O’Money to step up to the plate now. Prove he’s worth this big contract and not be a big headed prick when it comes to money.

  17. xx1111 - Jul 24, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Still hope they trade this greedy prick.. Its always been bout the money with him.. It will be bout the money in 2 years.. Winning is 2nd after money. If that wasnt the case he would have never signed the offer sheet from Calgary for 2 million more than what the Avs were offering. Not like Calgary is or has been winning. $$$$$$$$

    If he really wanted to be here long term he would have signed a 5 year deal. He seems like the type that will just sign 3 year deals so he can keep maximizing his paycheck. Nothing wrong with that but kind of sucks for the team if they have a salary structure and have to keep renegotiating with player X every 3 years.

    Still think a trade to Winnipeg is the best move. E Kane is locked up for 4 years at a respectable 5.25 cap hit. Is only 22 years old. Is a true winger who can also provide that PF role. He is a guy that knocked out Cooke as an 18 year old rookie. Already has a 30 goal season under his belt as well. He just needs a change of scenery as he has been unfairly blamed since arriving in Winnipeg as a 19/20 year old.

    Winnipeg is looking for a center. Hmmm. O’Reilly feels he should be wearing an A or C (so glad he isnt as he isnt leading by example in his negotiations). He could have his chance to be the MAN in Winnipeg, something that wont happen in Colorado with the likes of Duchene, Landeskog and Super Mac here. Centers are worth more than winger. More so a 2 way defensive center like O’Reilly.

    We could make it a simple trade of O’REilly for Kane + Pick or make it a bigger one like

    O’Reilly, wilson, 2015 1st rd pick for Kane & Trouba

    Avalanche get a winger to replace O’Reilly and a young dman that just finished his 1st season. You never know how they will continue to develop as Del Zotto and Myers who had terrific rookies than kind of fell off. Of if he will continue upward.

    Winnipeg gets their center they have been looking for all offseason. He can be the man and im sure Winnipeg would have no problem paying him the 7 million / year he is looking for. They get wilson who is in the last year of his deal and another pick in the first round. Something they could use to package with theirs to move up in the draft.

    Dont think Winnipeg would want to move Trouba but anything could happen.

    I most def want Kane in a Colorado uniform as him on a line with Duchene and Iginla would be explosive as well as add protection for Duchene.

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