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The Bruins have too many d-men — who will they trade?

Jul 2, 2014, 3:57 PM EST

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Good news, Red Wings fans. We came up with a right-shooting defenseman that Detroit general manager Ken Holland could target in a trade.

Johnny Boychuk of the Boston Bruins!

Boychuk, 30, has one year remaining on his contract (cap hit $3.37 million) and, according to CSN New England, could be a trade chip for Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli to play in order to 1) clear cap space and 2) pare down Boston’s glut of blue-liners.

“I think we have a good group right now, and I include [David] Warsofsky because I believe he’s as close to an NHL player as you’re going to get from Providence. There are nine defensemen we have — NHL defensemen — so we can’t go into the year with nine NHL defensemen,” said Chiarelli. “But [Dennis] Seidenberg will be back healthy. [Adam] McQuaid will be back healthy. At some point, I have to do something there, but I’m in no hurry. It may be that we see how the preseason goes, with who’s mixing, who’s matching with whom.”

What Boychuk wouldn’t give the Red Wings is a right-shooting d-man who’s scored a ton of power-play goals in the NHL. In fact, he’s scored just one in 321 games. But Holland wanted to get “a right-shot defenseman or two” yesterday in free agency, and he was shut out completely. At this point, he’s a beggar who can’t really be a chooser.

Of Boston’s young defensemen, Warsofsky and Matt Bartkowski are probably the two that Chiarelli would be most likely to move, with Torey Krug and Dougie Hamilton the least likely.

Related: Babcock has been ‘all over’ Holland to get more right-shooting d-men

  1. hockeydon10 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:00 PM

    That’s… actually not a bad idea. Got to like Boychuk’s physical style and he’s responsible defensively. And Detroit could definitely fit that cap hit even if they resign Alfie.

    Division rival though, may be a steep trade to make.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:04 PM

      not to mention that slapshot of his…he’s worth that cap hit for sure, as you said – just depends on the asking price

      • lordfletcher - Jul 2, 2014 at 5:16 PM

        MN needs a RHD and they are way out of their division, could be a great trading partner.

        Guessing Wild target in trades a RHD and 4th line grit unless they are comfortable with Bulmer in the coming days / weeks

    • kaptaanamerica - Jul 3, 2014 at 9:09 AM

      That’s why trader Jim is going to scoop up one of the Boston d men or other piece that chiarelli needs to move…

  2. hockey412 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:02 PM

    Right…just said he wanted a right SHOOTing defense. He was mum as to whether he could actually hit anything with said shot.

    • hockey412 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:05 PM

      *defenseman

  3. pjblake2redwings - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:03 PM

    Hell No we dont want Johnny Boychuk . Looking for a offensive D who can actually score.. I’m sure they would love hometown boy Krug since apparently to be on the wings these days you just have to play at MSU or UofM…

  4. upyourstodd - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:03 PM

    Johnny is a real solid veteran playoff defenseman. Really hope the Bruins dont trade him. Boychuk-4-Ever!

    • edzo82270 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:08 PM

      This whole non-sense about not being able to score on the PP is because he doesn’t PLAY on the PP. Chara, Siedenberg, and Krug are your D men with Krejci and Bergeron taking turns on the point as forwards. He has a rocket of a shot, can score his share, but is also very responsible in his own end, has better than average wheels, is quite physical, and I’d absolutely hate to see the B’s trade him. Detroit would be getting an upgrade to their D corps if they acquire JB. He’s very similar to Kronwall in all aspects except not as gifted offensively. By then again, he’s a Defense-man.

      • nunan - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:25 PM

        Didn’t he lead all defensemen in goals during the post season a couple years ago? His shot alone make him a threat offensively, he’s just never really utilized in that way. Either way, he perfectly fits the mold of what fans in Boston like to see. Don’t want to see him go either. PC did mention trying to resign him so hopefully that is in their future.

      • matt14gg - Jul 2, 2014 at 5:11 PM

        “edzo” I should have read your post before I posted, because you are spot on.

      • jaywp388 - Jul 6, 2014 at 9:41 AM

        Yes he did 7 or 8 goals the year they won the cup, ill hate to see him go butt at this point it seems inevitable, the Bruins cant afford to resign him after this year so hes leaving anyway might as well get something on return

  5. djshnooks - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    What do they want…veteran or youngster?

    Buffalo has quite a few defensemen, too.

    Chad Ruhwedel and Mike Weber are probably the only ones available, who won’t cost a lot…for Tyler Myers, the only conversation starter is probably Tomas Jurco, Anthony Manta, Riley Sheahan or Zach Nastasiuk…but idk who they would want, it would have to either be one of these guys and a draft pick…a package of picks, including at least one 1st rounder (2015 preferred)…or a package of players.

    I’m pretty sure Tim Murray’s uncle gave up on a giant blue-liner once, and that turned out to be a huge mistake (Chara)…I don’t want Tim to make the same mistake.

    Not to mention, like Ennis, Myers shares the same first name with me…and they were drafted the day we laid my father to rest in June 2008, in his Sabres getup… Needless to say, they’re 2 of my favorites.

  6. nunan - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:18 PM

    I’d move McQuaid and/or Bartkowski before moving anyone else. Miller, IMO, is a poor man’s Boychuk. Doesn’t have the insane shot but is just as physical. More of a stay at home guy and is an animal when he fights. Miller could replace a lot of what would be lost if McQuaid left and he is more affordable right now. I’d like to see more of Warskofsky before dealing him but that might be impossible. I hope they can resign Boychuk, making their top 4 very strong for a few more years. Veteran D, especially ones who are role players, are incredibly valuable.

    Chara-Seidenberg-Hamilton-Boychuk

  7. puckyou14 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    The only reason to trade Boychuk would be because the Bruins won’t be able to re-sign him. They won’t have the cap space especially if they want to extend Krejci and a few other guys after this season. instead of letting him walk after next season, you can move him now and get a good return. Boychuk is a great Dman but sadly, this is just the business side of hockey. He’s been nothing but solid in Boston. I doubt they would move him to Detroit though.

  8. pj608 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    There are a ton of teams in need of defense and have cap…. You could unload half of your team to the Islanders if Snow wasnt so cheap…. Edmonton also needs a d man or 2

    • pj608 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:41 PM

      Trade dougie Hamilton and Boychuk to edmonton for Eberle….? add a pick and i am sure they would bite

      • pj608 - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:43 PM

        Yakupov would probably be more reasonable cap wise… Boston can make a good player out of a bucket.

      • sixchr - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:44 PM

        You’re smoking dope to even mention Hamilton in trade talks.

      • pj608 - Jul 2, 2014 at 7:28 PM

        yeah i guess… But you cant win cups just sitting in the defensive zone all game. They should try and find a way to get a speedy guy that doesnt turn over the puck or miss wide open nets 90% of the time like Merchand and then Piss and moan all the way to the bench and break his stick. They were realllllly dumb to get rid of seguin and now let go of iginla. i dont know quite what the bruins are thinking the past few seasons…

      • pj608 - Jul 2, 2014 at 7:38 PM

        Dislike the idea all you want but werent the bumble Bs top seed for the entire season and Favorited to win the cup for THE ENTIRE SEASON and then what happened? BAMMM!!!! You lost to who???? You got lit up by PK Nobody and couldn’t answer back. Keep sitting in the Defensive zone. Let me know how that works out for you guys in winning a cup now that a crap team like VANCOUVER will not make it to the Stanley cup Finals representing the west again for a Charity shot. All teams that win now including the one that beat you guys last year All Have OFFENSE AND DEFENSE AND A GOALIE….. Cant win on just Defense anymore bud. Live with it.

      • lowenni - Jul 2, 2014 at 8:40 PM

        You’re an idiot pj608. You’re probably just a troll, but that trade idea is one of the worst I’ve ever seen on here. Trade a potential future Norris candidate in Hamilton along with a Stanley Cup winning, top-4, good skating, physical, hard-shooting defenseman (I hear those are in demand) for a guy who’s failed to get it done for Edmonton for years. You can s*it talk the Bruins–who I hate–all you want, but they’ve accomplished a lot and they have a lot of offense too. Maybe they’ll look to bring in a superstar forward but certainly not through the trade you proposed. They should get Hall and Eberle for that.

      • raleighcaniac - Jul 2, 2014 at 9:35 PM

        B’s have no one to replace Iginla’s 31 goals and mega leadership. Marchands act is old and teams have figured him out. Still some solid players in Boston but Chara is on the downside of his career. As long as Colton Orr isn’t in the opposition line up then Lucic will play oaky. If he’s playing against Orr he’ll look to the refs to protect him from being beat like a stepchild.

      • nunan - Jul 2, 2014 at 9:39 PM

        I was going to jump all over this thought but everyone else already has. Fantasy hockey talk right there. Hamilton is not a stay at home D’man either…doesn’t just stay in defensive mode all game. He has legit ability to rush the puck, he tries to push the puck up the ice quickly with his passes, and he has a feel for what to do in the offensive zone when the puck isn’t on his stick. Trading him is not only a terrible idea but short-sighted. He was a top draft pick and has only been on their team two year. His development is clearly progressing. Getting rid of him would make the defense LESS mobile, and the team worse in transition, which is exactly what you’ve stated you don’t want.

  9. sixchr - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM

    The Bruins will move Warsofsky, McQuaid, and/or Bartkowski to acquire a 3rd line winger. They have no desires to touch their bigger players because for some reason they refuse to even consider it. If Boychuk moves I would be shocked, the way Chiarelli is going. I mean seriously, look at this quote from Chiarelli yesterday and tell me they have any desires to change much of anything.

    “I’m very comfortable. We lost in the second round, but we won the Presidents’ Trophy.”

  10. matt14gg - Jul 2, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    Any person here who say they wouldn’t want Boychuk because he doesn’t score is out of his/her mind. He is an absolute heart and soul guy and maybe the toughest player I’ve ever seen. He doesn’t score because he’s not on the PP. And I don’t know if anyone’s noticed but guys don’t score from the point anymore unless it’s on the PP (the goalies are too good). He has an absolute cannon, he’s not afraid to shoot it, he’s very responsible defensively, while he hits HARD he plays the game clean and he is also willing to drop the mitts occasionally. If you claim you wouldn’t want Boychuk you either haven’t watched him very much or simply don’t understand the game. Not saying he’s a top two, but he’s definitely a top four.

    • obamareallysucks - Jul 3, 2014 at 7:39 AM

      Nice try fan-boy.

    • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2014 at 8:38 AM

      He’s got a 3.5% shot percentage. I understand the whole Boston fanbase thinks their guys are the best ever, and hell that’s fine with me, but he’s 165th in the league as far as that goes, and that goes against what Detroit is looking for in this case. It’d be like bringing Orpik in to be your puck-mover. Nobody is criticizing Boychuk’s ‘heart and soul’, though personally I think he’s a cheapshot artist as far as punches thrown after the whistle for no freaking reason whatsoever and I secretly hope that he’ll get hit in the face with the puck every time it’s shot.

  11. Moop - Jul 2, 2014 at 5:24 PM

    I don’t consider the Bruins defense to be Cup winning caliber without Boychuk, even if there is the risk of losing him to free agency next year. I would like to see Bartkwowski and/or McQuaid traded if there are moves to be made.

  12. hieronymous27 - Jul 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    Dustin Byfuglien, not Boychuk, is the guy the Red Wings should set their sights on. He is 6′ 5″, 265 lbs. has good offensive numbers and is a right hand shot. No, he’s not perfect and has had some “issues” in the past but if Detroit is serious about upgrading the defense he would be one to target in a trade. The price would not be cheap but you have to be willing to give up something in order to get something.

    • drewsylvania - Jul 2, 2014 at 7:55 PM

      Compared to Boychuk, Byfuglien is a defensive disaster.

  13. shaundre93 - Jul 2, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    I don’t mind warsofsky, but he is basically Krug 2.0. Can’t have two of em in the lineup. I guess its possible the team thinks Krug can handle top 4 duties… But I doubt it. Bartkowski, Mcquaid and Warsofsky are the odd men out Imo.

    Chara-Hamilton
    Seids – Boychuk
    Krug – Miller

    In reality all the Bruins need to do is find a way to get rid of Kellys contract and maybe Mcquaid and they’ll be fine. I think they have enough NHL ready youngsters to replace Iginlas production without too much trouble, and if they do succeed in losing Kelly they should have enough space to make a deadline pickup if needed. This Bruins fan is not as concerned as the media seems to think I should be. In Chia pet I trust!!!

    • nunan - Jul 2, 2014 at 9:45 PM

      I’ve been thinking it is worth it to pair Seidenberg and Chara together from now on. Every year, they try to “save” Chara by sitting him a few games, if that, at the end of the season. Not effective. At this point, I think it is more about saving him throughout the entire year. Pairing him with Seidenberg would help do that. The stronger the pairing, the less running around and making up for mistakes. Just a thought. This hinges on Hamilton’s continued improvement. He and Boychuk are a solid pairing. Plus, I would limit his PP time. Use it a little more sparingly bc those are hard minutes in front of the net. It obviously works but if the trade off is fresher legs in the playoffs, I’ll take the latter.

      • shaundre93 - Jul 3, 2014 at 2:18 AM

        I agree about reducing his role and PP time throughout the season, but I disagree with those pairings. Hamilton is exactly what Chara needs on his pair. Hamilton can skate the puck and push the play and chara can sit back and just defend. He doesn’t need to worry about trying to rush up the ice to create offense or anything. And I’m sure he’ll still have his ups and downs, but Hamilton proved he’s at least a good top 4 defender already, if not legit #2. He’s no schmuck and I’m sure playing him with Z will only help him get even better. Also, play Seidenberg and Boychuk together and you could give them the shutdown #1 D pair assignment against 80% of the league without issue, saving chara even more.

  14. 101starmymedic - Jul 2, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    I honestly don’t give a damn anymore, I don’t care if Kenny needs to pull a Jackie Moon and trade the washer and dryer, just get a fcking defenseman already.

  15. hockeydon10 - Jul 2, 2014 at 6:19 PM

    It’s not really a matter of Chiarelli wanting to move Boychuk, it’s a matter of whether he’ll be forced to do so due to cap constraints.

    Boston has 18 players under contract and needs to get up to 23.
    Boston has 1.6M in cap space plus Savard’s 4M to sign those five players.
    They need to address their RFAs Krug at the least and probably Bartkowski and Smith as well.

    They may be able to swing it, but it’s going to be extremely tight. Krug is the biggest problem. He’s turned into an extremely valuable member of the team. 40 points in 79 games says he deserves a big bump over his EL contract. He’s better than McQuaid certainly. He puts up more points than Boychuk, has a lower +/- and their possession stats are pretty close.

  16. drewsylvania - Jul 2, 2014 at 7:40 PM

    Trade McQuaid for nothing (cap space), trade Bartkowski.

    Find some sucker to take Chris Kelly?

  17. hieronymous27 - Jul 2, 2014 at 8:59 PM

    Byfuglien would be be playing with more skilled players in Detroit than in Winnipeg. His defensive stats would improve and he would provide more of a physical presence for a team that got pushed around like rag dolls against the Bruins.

  18. icedvike5000 - Jul 2, 2014 at 9:32 PM

    The Wild need a right hand shooting D to pair with Suter and take some pressure off of him. The Wild have a couple of assets in Zucker, Bullmer, and a ton of young defense to spare in a trade, or could move Zucker and a draft pick for Boychuk, They need a veteran presence and some more toughness on the blue line, and someone to replace Stoner.

  19. titansbro - Jul 2, 2014 at 9:56 PM

    They aren’t trading Hamilton so just forget it. He’s Chara’s future replacement. I’d hate to trade Boychuk. Dude is simply solid. To create some cap space, I don’t care how you do it. BUT GET RID OF CHRIS KELLY! Trade Marchand, mcquaid, & bartkowski. That should get them some cap relief & some nice pieces in return. I know PC said he isn’t trading M Subban, but he should explore it. I know he’s still developing but the Bs are in their window now. Load up & go for the cup now.

    • nunan - Jul 3, 2014 at 12:27 AM

      There doesn’t have to be a “window”. Success doesn’t have to be this fleeting thing. If they manage the cap so they can occasionally add to the core pieces they have now and, most importantly, develop the prospects, they can be in it every year. Detroit is looked at as the model franchise because they know how to stay competitive. Every year. It doesn’t have to be this thing that HAS to end so they go “all in” only to suck for 5-6 years after that. After year two of sucking, I guarantee people would be all over management, saying how terrible they’ve been asking for everyone to be fired…even though people wanted them to go all in and take advantage of the window. The window doesn’t exist in hockey. It’s about sustained success…it’s better for the fans, the players, and for ownership bc they make the money when this happens. Why would they accept sucking if it’s bad for business? So Subban then is key to their future. He’s not even going to be ready for 2-3 years. Hasn’t been an everyday starter in Providence yet. Rask’s deal may be 6 more years but who knows where things will be 2-3 years from now? To be able to replace rask with subban is a huge luxury and that goes for every position. Develop the prospects and use them to supplement the line-up, eventually taking the place of veterans who are on the decline. I think you’re more likely to see them trade rask later on which is a lot more valuable than a prospect with little experience. But again, that’s way down the road. GM’s want to sustain success…not go for broke.

  20. bluesdroogie - Jul 3, 2014 at 12:24 AM

    Send Boychuck to the Blues. Not sure who would fit for the Bruins, but we need a righty d man that can clear the crease.

  21. canada2014gold - Jul 3, 2014 at 2:09 AM

    I would love to have this guy on the Canucks. Just a solid defenceman all around. This is the bad side of the cap and it is what sets the men apart from the boys in the GM world. I think the Bruins will make the right choice. Bruin fans are not used to not making bold moves at this time, get used to it Boston fans. When your team is good for awhile ur players start getting paid what there worth. It sux but they didn’t miss a great FA. My team is ecstatic about Vbrata……..yeah.

  22. kastout11 - Jul 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM

    Good news for the Bruins, they could get Lecavlier from Philly for Boychuk. The Bruins will not be able to sign Boychuk and Vinny is a much smaller hit on the cap than Ignila would have been, and Vinny would surely waive his NTC to go to Boston. Just wishful thinking from a Flyers fan. I would actually take any of the defensemen that Boston would be willing to unload. It seems like Boychuk is the one that is leaving Boston.

  23. joeman26 - Jul 3, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    the B’s were built to win the SC this past season and in part the D-men getting hurt derailed that from happening ….losing ST & JI will hurt the team this year and the cap is keeping them from replacing parts needed for the team….still saying a package of a forward & a D-Man to bring back a forward and clear some much needed cap space

  24. shutton83 - Jul 4, 2014 at 6:46 PM

    If there is anyone the B’s need to trade now it’s Kelly, bartkowski, or McQuaid, each are irrelevant at this point and if we trade Kelly or McQuaid it gives us cap room, Bartkowski is just not a great player and even his depth isn’t as needed at this point

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