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Report: Talks between Rangers, Stralman ‘not going as expected’

Jun 26, 2014, 9:44 AM EDT

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If there was one player whose stock rose the most during the Stanley Cup Playoffs it may have been that of New York Rangers defenseman Anton Stralman.

Stralman became a key shutdown guy alongside Marc Staal for the Rangers and his steady play throughout the playoffs wasn’t missed by teams in need of defensive help this summer.

While the Rangers would like to keep Stralman around, talks with the potential July 1 free agent are getting tricky as Renaud Lavoie of TVA Sports shared:

You have to assume that talks “not going as expected” means Stralman is looking to land more money and term than the Rangers were hoping.

After struggling to find his way in the NHL for so long (being dumped by the Blue Jackets and Maple Leafs along the way) you have to assume he’s looking to cash in on his new desired status.

  1. scout202sport - Jun 26, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    Stralman had a good playoffs but I wouldn’t use the words “key shutdown guy” to describe his play. That’s just my opinion

  2. nebbah306 - Jun 26, 2014 at 9:58 AM

    He’s a very capable defenseman, but please don’t overpay the guy. Sather, keep to your guns. I think 4 years and $12-14 million overall should be the limit.

  3. nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    I like him, but thanks for coming out if looking for more than 2 years at 2.5 tops.

    • nebbah306 - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:21 AM

      He just came off a 2 year, $3.4 mill deal. He’s going to want more of a raise than 2 years $5 mill and I think he’s worth more than that too. Kevin Kline makes $2.9 mill per year and Stralman is better than Kline.

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:36 AM

        I’m hoping that Klein is off the team ASAP as well, say what you want about MDZ, but at least he was only 23. Klein is slow with zero offense in his game. That trade was horrible.

      • nebbah306 - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:40 AM

        I have to disagree with you there. They traded for Klein because he was a good defender. They weren’t expecting offense from him. He’s a decent passer and doesnt get caught out of position much. I think the Rangers got the better end of the deal. MDZ was a healthy scratch for many games towards the end of the season. I watched every single Rangers game this year and was pleasantly surprised by Klein.

      • nebbah306 - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:44 AM

        Oh and MDZ had 5 points and was a -4 in 26 games.

        Klein had 6 points and was a +4 in 30 games.

        Don’t know how you can say it was a horrible trade.

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:46 AM

        I’d rather have Conor Allen 925K cap hit and Dylan Mcilrath 703k cap hit lol in the lineup. Talk about a terrible pick by Sather? I remember the announcers were like woooooooooow the Rangers went totally off the grid by skipping Fowler for Mcilrath haha.

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:49 AM

        Don’t hit me with the +/- crap though, it’s one of the most over rated stats in the game.

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:51 AM

        Klein has like 7 years on MDZ that’s why.

      • nebbah306 - Jun 26, 2014 at 11:05 AM

        First off, Klein is only 29, so only a 5 year difference. Also, the point of the trade was to shore up the defense. MDZ was much more of a defensive liability than he was producing offensively, and they wanted to get better defensively. If you were expecting that Klein was going to light up scoring, well your expectations were wrong. There were times in the playoffs where Klein was playing better than Girardi and times where Stralman was playing better than Staal. Don’t forget that Staal is an UFA next season. If he goes, Klein needs to stay. $2.9 mill a year for his defensive abilities is a good deal and he’s signed for 4 more years.

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 12:46 PM

        Maybe Klein was better than Girardi in the playoffs, but Girardi was horrible looked like a mens league player, Klein is a bum, so is Stralman, maybe if we drafted better, we wouldn’t have to pick up other teams garbage. MDZ just turned 24 2 days ago. Klein has a contract for four more years, I wouldn’t even entertain Stralman. Who we drafting this year lol? You’ll be liking these types of bums in the lineup for years to come, they’re spare pieces at best. They’re lucky to be in the NHL.

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 1:28 PM

        I’ve played hockey year round since I was turning 6 and still play, but I probably don’ t know anything. So you’re counting a players career stats from 18-23 years old? You know most players don’t even get to play in the NHL at that age range especially playing D? It takes a defenseman a lot longer to come into his prime on average than a forward, you’re going to make alot of mistakes at that age, he was obviously good enough to be in the league and being traded to Nashville wasn’t really going to help his game out considering the low amount of overall talent that team has on O. If he ends up on a team like Tampa and get’s to QB the pp with his best buddy Stamkos, he’s going to kill it.

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM

        Keith will be money for that term, he’s worth it. The Rangers can afford to let Stralman walk for anything near 4 and the years he’s looking for. He’s ok/decent that’s it.

        They’re all overpaid mistakes, Markov wouldn’t be if he could stay healthy. Doesn’t mean the Rangers should just throw out money to hurt their own cap just because a player like Stralman had a few decent months. Peace!

    • DED - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:25 AM

      That would put him below Klein ($2.9 milllion). Do you really think Klein played better than Stralman?

      Word is that he’s been offered $4 million, which is fair. Maybe the two sides can’t agree over the length of the contract.

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 1:15 PM

        4 million is a little high though, Duncan Keith gets 5.5! Stralman should get 1.5 less than Keith?

        I think they both played ok, Stralman played better, but at the end of the day they’re both just spare parts, other teams garbage.

      • nebbah306 - Jun 26, 2014 at 1:33 PM

        Dude, Duncan Keith signed a 13 year deal. That’s why his cap hit is only $5.5 mill. Dan Girardi makes $5.5 mill a year too. And I think we can all agree that Keith quite a bit better than G. Tobias Enstrom, Andrei Markov, Brent Burns, and Mike Green all make more money than Keith.

        Bryce Salvador and Andy Greene of the Devils both make more than Klein and ask any Devils fan how they feel about those two guys.

    • jkay1818 - Jun 26, 2014 at 12:36 PM

      I can’t believe I just read that whole Klein and MDz exchange. Del zotto is a train wreck. Let’s put aside his overrated offensive capabilities for a second. He was a turnover machine, he got bumped off the puck a ton, for a guy with his skating ability lost most 50/50 battles, stunk defensively, was out of position a ton. Klein was a steady player with Nashville, trotz liked him. Trotz hated del Zotto, the guy was a healthy scratch just as much as he played. Klein is a solid player who isn’t as bad of a skater as you say. Just because he isn’t a stud offensively doesn’t mean he isn’t a good skater. He is smart, plays the position well and that’s what you ask out of a good stay at home dman. The fact you don’t hear his name much is a good indicator of how sound he is.
      MDz wore out his welcome. He sulked, he cost the team more w his turnovers than his O and was way too erratic with his play. One season good, next season a mutt. Eg: the yr the rangers went to the ECf in 12′ he was a nightmare that postseason

      • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 12:49 PM

        MDZ had like 41 points in 2012 at 22 yrs old.

      • nebbah306 - Jun 26, 2014 at 1:08 PM

        I really shouldn’t feed into you nyrnashty, especially since we’re both Rangers fans, but you are so unbelievably in the wrong in this MDZ/Klein debate its not even funny. Klein was better than either of the King’s 3rd defensemen.

        Del Zotto had 121 points in 292 games played with the Rangers. Not earth shattering stats. Averaging less than a point every 2 games does not warrant the amount of careless turnovers and overall sloppy play that MDZ brought every single game. The fact that you call Klein and Stralman bums and other team’s garbage reflects your knowledge of hockey.

  4. storminator16 - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    Stralman is about to get paid. Bye, Rangers.

    • idonthavethebloodyoucrave - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:37 AM

      Don’t blame him. The guy was written off by multiple teams and proved he could be a top 4 defenseman.

      He’s gonna rightfully be seeking 4+ a year. Good for him.

      • storminator16 - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:53 AM

        Exactly. I was surprised on how many teams past on him before the Rangers gave him a chance. He’s not anything great, but he is exponentially more useful than many defenders just hanging on to stay in the league. I love it when free agents go get the money. I might be in the minority on that, but when a guy has already “paid his dues”, its time for the cash.

      • storminator16 - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:54 AM

        Oops, “passed” I meant.

  5. bmoreredfury311 - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    GMBM Should take a shot if the money is right. I still think Mitchell would be fit a good fit as well. Caps could really use a “shutdown” Dmen.

  6. roblo76 - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:50 AM

    BREAKING: Oilers willing to pay Stralman 8 million per season.

    • nyrnashty - Jun 26, 2014 at 10:53 AM

      Bahahahahhaha and take Klein as well.

    • barkar942 - Jun 26, 2014 at 12:41 PM

      You know- I would not be surprised to see a team trade for his rights and give up a first round pick for it, something the Rangers could use if they know they will not be signing him. Florida has already said they might part with one of their picks.

    • kingadrock99 - Jun 27, 2014 at 5:38 PM

      The Oilers don’t care about defense!

  7. hockeydon10 - Jun 26, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    He’s a righty and a Swede.

    Detroit will contact his agent, though I’m not sure they should.

  8. bcisleman - Jun 26, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    Be a good fit for Isles to play alongside Reinhart and boost Hammer to play alongside Lubo or whoever Isles trade for.

  9. stakex - Jun 26, 2014 at 12:01 PM

    I’d love to see the Rangers keep Stralman, but they can’t pay his currently over inflated market value. If he won’t take $4-4.5 million to remain in NY, than they are better off letting him walk.

    Its not like Stralman is the cornerstone of the Rangers defense. With McD, Staal, and I guess Girardi they would still have a solid defensive group to start with…. making the loss of Stralman much easier to deal with.

    • nebbah306 - Jun 26, 2014 at 1:09 PM

      If Stralman walks, they absolutely need to bring back J. Moore as well

    • dolphanphan - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:24 PM

      Girardi was by far the worst defensemen (either team) in the Finals. And Staal was close behind. Absolutley no playmaking from either of them, except when Girardi was making plays for the Kings.

  10. dolphanphan - Jun 26, 2014 at 2:22 PM

    Whenever an athlete mentions “have to do what’s right for my family,” that means they are leaving. Every single time, it’s all about money, money, and only money. Stralman’s little kids don’t know the difference if daddy is making $6 million a year or “only” $5.5 million, so why bring the kids into it?

    • gimmethecreeps - Jun 28, 2014 at 4:47 PM

      There’s more factors than that. New York cost of living is also much higher than most of the country with the exception of California and maybe parts of Canada. Look at ryan callahan, he took a little less than what nyr offered him but Florida has no state income tax and property tax in Florida is substantially lower than in NY. I’m talking like 4 times lower. If stralman can make more money and reduce his cost of living it’s a huge win for him.

  11. kingadrock99 - Jun 27, 2014 at 5:28 PM

    Considering they were expecting it to be difficult to resign him, does this mean it’s almost done?

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