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PHT Morning Skate: Sharks rebuild talk makes no sense

Jun 19, 2014, 8:38 AM EDT

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PHT’s Morning Skate takes a look around the world of hockey to see what’s happening and what we’ll be talking about around the NHL world and beyond.

So… Just why are the San Jose Sharks seemingly ready to do a rebuild? Sure they can deal Joe Thornton or Patrick Marleau, but why bust up a Stanley Cup contender? James Mirtle asked that question and says it doesn’t make a lick of sense.  (Globe And Mail)

With Jordin Tootoo on waivers from the Detroit Red Wings and destined to be bought out, they’re wondering in Winnipeg if he’d be a good fit with the Jets. (Winnipeg Free Press)

Ron Wilson and Marc Crawford are both candidates to land the coaching job in Pittsburgh. What year is it again? (Toronto Sun)

With all the talk going on about the Washington NFL team’s nickname, some have asked what’s up with the Chicago Blackhawks. (Chicago Tribune, The Hockey News)

There are some in Edmonton who are expecting the Philadelphia Flyers to trade with the Florida Panthers to get the No. 1 overall pick and take Aaron Ekblad. That’d be a bold way for the host team to make a splash. (Broad Street Hockey)

The Team USA roster for the World Junior Evaluation Camp in August was released — Have a look at who USA Hockey is looking at for the next World Junior Championships. (USA Hockey)

New Jersey Devils prospect Steven Santini is one of those names and he spoke with Tom Gulitti about getting another shot to represent his country. (Fire & Ice)

Finally… The Arizona Sundogs of the CHL have been doing anything they can to drum up attention to sell tickets including burying their owner alive. (Canoe)

  1. tmoore4075 - Jun 19, 2014 at 8:55 AM

    Some changes, yes. But rebuild? No Try to re-tool maybe a little bit but if you trade two of your top players…that’s a big change even if you get a good return.

    • mshantz22 - Jun 19, 2014 at 9:04 AM

      I agree, but the problem is that in 3-4 years Thornton and Marleau are 37-38, and aren’t that useful. The fact of the matter is that they’ve fielded a very similar team for the past 7 or so years with not real playoff longevity. If they could get a good return for Marleau and / or Thornton, which wouldn’t surprise me if they did, it would be a great move.

      • dipthatchip - Jun 19, 2014 at 9:24 AM

        Thornton for Kesler? Marleau for a bottom six winger/depth d man and picks? Then go UFA shoppin’ with them picks?

        Just spitballin’ here, I have no idea what I’m doing

  2. sjsharksfan11 - Jun 19, 2014 at 9:03 AM

    Seemingly only the fan base knows why the rebuild is necessary. For those that don’t, it’s because the the re-tooling, re-fleshing, and tweaking has not worked. The same result comes and it’s because of soft heartless play. Young players hungry to win coming in wanting to play is definitely what is needed. I don’t think we can take another early exit or another Joe Thornton skipped shot attempt for a pass along the half boards that leads to an odd man rush.

  3. sjsblitz - Jun 19, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    We’ve been re-tooling for about the past 4 seasons since Chicago burned us in WCF in 2010. Why continue to re-tool with a possibility of getting the same result that you’ve been getting for the past 4 seasons.
    Something needs to change, like it or not. Thus a rebuild seems necessary

    • btlpper68 - Jun 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM

      I wouldn’t say rebuild is the right word. Pavelski burns couture vlasic are all enterin their prime. You have great rising players like hertl wingles nietto stalock. Demers had a big year. You have prospects like mueller and Chris Tierney just had a huge season in juniour. Maybe trade thronton Marleau niemi, get some picks/youth, step down a a top contender for a few years. Develop those picks from the trade and we should have a good team. This “rebuild” Dosent have to take 6-10 years, an injection of talented youth along with a change in leadership and I really believe we can contend in 3-5 years again.

  4. mcflower29 - Jun 19, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    San Jose Sharks: President’s Trophy Winner, 6 Division Champions since 2001, 100+ regular season points, consistent playoff attendees.

    “…that’s the mark of success.” – a sharks fan on PHT back in 2012

  5. onerivas - Jun 19, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    A rebuild just doesn’t make sense. Trade Thornton and Marleau and you still have pavs, couture, vlasic, burns, demers, hertl, wingles……..there’s too much talent there to consider it a traditional rebuild.

  6. btlpper68 - Jun 19, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    I don’t know if I agree with a full on rebuild but then I ask myself why will we be Better next year?

  7. skr213 - Jun 19, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Rebuild now is exactly the right move, and those who don’t see that don’t have much hockey IQ as far as I’m concerned. (1) Zen Joe will never win a Cup with a C on his sweater. That’s just the way it is. He might win one as a second or third line center on the tail end of his career, but never as the leader of a team. HE DOES NOT HATE TO LOSE. It’s that simple. (2) We will never get as much value for Zen Joe or Marleau as we will now. They are both signed to very favorable contracts that many teams would love to take on. Those are teams that are on the cusp of making the playoffs, but don’t necessarily care so much that they won’t get all the way to a Cup (lots of teams realistically consider making the playoffs to be “success”). (3) Waiting just so we can enjoy a few more seasons of “success” – i.e. making the playoffs, but not getting very far – has now become unacceptable to the fanbase, and more importantly, perhaps the new owner. If the Sharks want to keep the rabid fanbase that they’ve built up, it’s time to take some real action, not continue with the tinkering while leaving in place the real problem that’s keeping them from winning it all (i.e. the player leadership of Zen Joe and Marleau, neither of whom have the intensity to lead the team to the Cup).

  8. endusersolutions2013 - Jun 19, 2014 at 8:50 PM

    Everybody else has focused on the Sharks. What I’m wanting to point out is another example of the media’s “politically correctness obsession”. Redskins is a derogatory term. Blackhawks was the name of an indian tribe that inhabited Illinois in part.

    How about an appropriate name change, like calling it the “Chicago Clueless Tribune”?

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