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AV: 2014 Rangers were closer than 2011 Canucks

Jun 16, 2014, 3:38 PM EDT

From The Record’s Andrew Gross, after Rangers coach Alain Vigneault spoke to reporters today:

On the one hand, it’s a bit odd to say the 2014 Rangers came closer than the 2011 Canucks, given Vancouver went into the Stanley Cup Final versus the Bruins as the heavy favorite and had two chances to clinch, losing both Game 6 in Boston and Game 7 at home. New York was also outshot by a combined margin of 194-146 in the five games against the Kings, so it’s not like the Rangers were done in by a hot goalie or anything.

On the other hand, the Rangers lost three games in overtime at Staples Center, and they had leads in all three, twice by a score of 2-0. The Canucks, in contrast, were outscored by a remarkable 18 goals (21-3) in their four losses to the Bruins. So we can see Vigneault’s point.

“I think we really put our best foot forward,” said Vigneault about this year’s Rangers squad, per Blueshirts United. “We left it all out on the ice, tried our best, lost in five. It’s a tough loss, one that will haunt me and my group for some time now, but I’m hoping we’re going to learn from this. Every year is different. Next year’s team is going to be different. We have a good young foundation, though. We have some real good people in that dressing room.”

  1. lowenni - Jun 16, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    If I had to choose between these 2014 Rangers versus the 2011 Canucks in a seven game matchup, I would choose the Rangers. That being said, I don’t think these Rags were closer than those Canucks, I would say it’s about the same. If you look at it just from what Lundqvist did, perhaps, but overall I think the Rangers were outplayed quite a bit in this series, from a 5 on 5 perspective.

    • canucks30 - Jun 16, 2014 at 3:49 PM

      If the Canucks had a healthy Manny Malhotra, Mikael Samuelsson, Dan Hamhuis, and Ryan Kesler (they were all out or playing with serious injuries during the SCF) the Canucks would handle the 2014 Rangers with relative ease.

      That Canucks team finished 1st in the NHL in goals scored, goals against, powerplay, and penalty killing something we may never see in the NHL ever again.

    • jessejames182 - Jun 16, 2014 at 4:36 PM

      Are you sure you don’t mean if you had to choose Luongo or Lundquist you’d take lundquist? I think 2011 Canucks were a better team, and Lungo just lost control. Where as Lunquist was the guy towing the line for the rangers.

      • canucks30 - Jun 16, 2014 at 4:43 PM

        I’d take Lundqvist over Luongo but the difference is the Rangers can’t score.

        The 2011 Canucks had several players who scored a similar point total to rangers leading scorer Mats Zuccarello (Kesler, Samuelsson, Erhoff, Burrows, and a prorated Edler). Not to mention 2 100pt+ players in the Sedins.

  2. canucks30 - Jun 16, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    This is Vigneault pandering to the New York media.

    The Canucks blew a 2-0 and 3-2 series lead over the Bruins in the 2011 SCF including, obviously, 2 chances to WIN (something the Rangers finished 2 wins away from) the Stanley Cup and got outscored 9-2 (4-0 in Game 7 in Vancouver) in the process.

    That loss will “haunt” Vigneault more than he cares to admit.

    • jessejames182 - Jun 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM

      It’s not too late to fire Vigneault and pick up Bylsma. And then after next years season then can go back to Torts.

      • canucks30 - Jun 16, 2014 at 4:45 PM

        It worked for the Devils.

        They won 3 Stanley Cups in 9 years with 3 different Head Coaches.

  3. notan9ner - Jun 16, 2014 at 4:34 PM

    What ever helps you sleep at night AV.

    All we know is your a better coach than torts.

  4. dolphincult - Jun 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    players coach to the point its a fault………. maybe his only fault

  5. 1cupin74years - Jun 16, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Sure, why not….

  6. djshnooks - Jun 16, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Lol, that’s funny…and delusional.

    He stole Greg Poppovich’s quote too! Lol. (About the loss “haunting” them now.)

  7. hosewater2 - Jun 16, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    The 2014 Rangers had the least talented roster in the SCF in a long time. They weren’t close. The best team by a long shot won by just enough.

  8. gbart22 - Jun 16, 2014 at 6:40 PM

    What do they expect him to say? He is still coaching the rags so obviously he’s going to continue to sing their praise I don’t think you can ask a coaches honest assessment until he has moved on from that organization.

  9. cybernetikghost - Jun 16, 2014 at 6:42 PM

    AV: when a reporter is trying to get a quote out of you (which is what I’m hoping the case was here) and asks you if your former or current team was closer to winning the cup, the correct answer is, “neither one was able to get it done and that’s all that matters.”

    • rje49 - Jun 17, 2014 at 6:22 PM

      Well, he sure as hell wouldn’t say “the ’11 Canucks were better than this Rangers team”, would he?

  10. skuba7 - Jun 16, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Misguided response to a man pandering to his current locale.

  11. papajack1259 - Jun 16, 2014 at 11:24 PM

    Hands down Henrik over Lord Luongo
    AV won nothing it’s like talking about who is the deafest deaf person. Sometimes the press embarrass themselves no wait pretty much all the time. They actually asked Henrik what it felt like when that final goal went in…what were your thoughts….geez just look at the poor guy there is your answer..he felt like crap…

  12. bigblueapple - Jun 17, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    Classless. No need to disrespect your previous team and fan base, blockhead. Even funnier cause it’s not even close to being true. More and more obvious this guy is a total trash bag.

  13. Hard to BeLeaf - Jun 17, 2014 at 9:15 AM

    Who cares who was closer? Losing is losing. Doesn’t matter if you loser in game 5 or game 7, you’re going home empty handed.

    People getting irate over AV’s comments need to chill too. Keep in mind the media is the one who asked him the question. It’s not like he just blurts these random soundbites out to get a rise out of people. Someone asked him which team he thought was closer and he did what any coach would do… He sided with the team he’s currently with. There isn’t a coach in the league that would throw his own team under the bus answering that question.

    To the Canuck fans assuming they would have won against NYR. Your speculations are as loaded useless imagination as AV’s comment. Doesn’t matter who would have won some non-existant series that will never happen.

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