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Thornton may waive NMC if ‘fans didn’t want him’ in San Jose

Jun 10, 2014, 2:51 PM EDT

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From the San Jose Mercury News:

Here’s the latest word from the Joe Thornton camp:

One thing might get the Sharks captain to reconsider his stated intent to remain in San Jose despite suggestions from management that it may be time to move on, according to his brother and agent, John Thornton.

“If he felt the fans didn’t want him in San Jose, he might re-think things,” John Thornton said when asked if his brother would want to play where it was apparent he was not wanted.

The Toronto Maple Leafs are one of the teams reportedly interested in acquiring Thornton, but clearly his first choice is to stay in San Jose, where the 34-year-old is signed through 2016-17 for a cap hit of $6.75 million — a contract (with a no-movement clause) that general manager Doug Wilson said at the time is was signed “fit with our team building philosophy.” Translation: Thornton took a hometown discount to get it done.

  1. tomas3345 - Jun 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM


    • ethanmacleod1685 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:59 PM

      Thronton is THE San Jose shark! He made the franchise what it is today. He was the first superstar to play in SJ, back to back 90+ assist seasons! people forget that. He is a HHOF will be hard for Sharks fans to let him go

      • dbreslow56 - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:43 PM

        Where, exactly have you gotten with this core of players? Exactly nowhere! That’s where. Not when it really counts anyway. The real blame for the fiasco that is the Sharks is the brain trust that shops for the groceries and buys the groceries. Blame them! Not some outside evil empire. Let’s not forget, Dean Lombardi and Darryl Sutter weren’t good enough for the Sharks. Why, I don’t know. Look at them now.Where are they today? I wowin away from their 2nd Stanley Cup Championship in 3 years, that’s where! Have you guys ever thought it could’ve been the Sharks if your grocery shoppers had a little more patience? Well, the Kings are awfully glad things turned out the way they have in SJ. Good luck. You’ll need it!

  2. 950003cups - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    They dont! Start waiving Big Joe! All my friends from the Bay area are all starting to say “enough”

    • 19to77 - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:08 PM

      I doubt you have friends in New Jersey, much less anywhere else.

      • 950003cups - Jun 10, 2014 at 5:19 PM

        a-dar-har-har! Did you make that one up? It’s true you douche-sack! Hence why the article is there. It’s a brewing story.

      • 950003cups - Jun 10, 2014 at 5:22 PM

        If Devils fans are willing to part ways with Brodeur, then I dont blame SJ fans for letting Joe go

  3. alicesrightfootesq - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:13 PM

    Lol, way to turn the responsibility over on the fans.

  4. blomfeld - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:13 PM


    why not, as this could be a ‘win/win’ for all … and besides, it sure as hell makes more sense than Schneider for a ‘child’ or Luongo for ‘nothing’ eh ?

    • zetaone - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:30 PM

      Did Blomfeld seriously make a post shorter than 9 paragraphs AND without an elvis video??!

  5. JoeAvg - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    This is an interesting card to play. Not sure I’ve seen this before.

  6. sjsharks66 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:20 PM

    Well looks like he is staying. Thornton is a fan favorite. You don’t think about the Sharks without first thinking of Jumbo Joe Thornton. If the Sharks want to shake things up, ditch Couture. He can draw some talent from teams as well. Maybe not as much as Jumbo but there is a reason why Thornton can draw so much. It just shows that he needs to stay in San Jose.

    • sens101 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:40 PM

      lol trade couture? are you crazy? he’s just getting started! Jumbo Joe will attract a decent return because he is locked up for the next few years at a reasonable cap hit and is still able to perform at a level expected of a first line centre. Neither should be traded.

      I think they need a number 1 d man personally, though they don’t grow on trees.

    • jernster21 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:49 PM

      The first thing I think about when thinking of the Sharks is playoff choke artists, but then I think about Joe Thornton. Getting rid of their future (Couture) and keeping Thornton would be an awful mistake. You likely aren’t going to get two NHL ready players to replace what Couture brings, but you might get one for one with Thornton. Look, I don’t think anyone can deny that Thornton is a great player, but he’s very clearly not the right leader. As far as I’m concerned, the team would be better off by moving on from Thornton, Marleau and Niemi. They need to decide if they just want a team that can make the playoffs every year, or a team that can actually do something in the playoffs, like win a Cup.

      • ethanmacleod1685 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:55 PM

        Don’t even mention Neimi and Thornton , Marleau in the same sentence. Niemi will be forgotton among the SJ fan base very easily, the JT, PT duo….not so much. They ARE the San Jose Sharks!!!!!!!

    • flyerspsu - Jun 10, 2014 at 5:29 PM

      Couture would get a greater return than Thornton

    • skr213 - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:06 PM

      sjsharks66: maybe I just didn’t pay attention to your posts before, but this is at least the second or third flat-out asinine thing you’ve posted in the last few days. Couture is the future of the team. Zen Joe is the past. Zen Joe is the reason we don’t get farther into the playoffs. Zen Joe doesn’t get bothered by losing, and therefore we will never win a Cup as long as Zen Joe is wearing the C.

  7. Slapshot - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:24 PM

    He just doesn’t have the grit when it comes to getting his hands dirty in the playoffs. When you’re that physically imposing, fans and coaches expect more out of you. Notice after his first contract in Boston, who drafted him, the Bruins decided to let him walk. That says a lot.

  8. sjtorpitt - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:42 PM

    ^ they didn’t let him walk, they traded him.

  9. muckleflugga - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:44 PM


    let me guess … all your friends in bay area … sausalito …?

    accessible via golden gate ferry

    • 950003cups - Jun 10, 2014 at 5:20 PM

      what the hell is a “sausalito”

      • clarke16 - Jun 11, 2014 at 11:59 PM

        :::sigh::: It bad deal. Dumb dumb make us all dumb a$$ when he post. Egg roll no work. Rice no work. Brain food not problem. Just big dumb dumb I guess.

  10. sjsharks66 - Jun 10, 2014 at 3:46 PM

    It may sound crazy but Couture was to busy diving in the playoffs than scoring goals. Yes, he fought Richards and I would love to see Thornton pull something like that. I just don’t see Couture getting any better. Trade him while they still can.

    As for the number one D man? That would be Vlasic. They need another top D man to replace Boyle. Maybe go after Matt N. this off season. I think he would help the Sharks.

    • hookersdontsnuggle - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:29 PM

      ‘Too busy diving?’

    • sjsharks86 - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:30 PM

      Byfuglien or Ehroff to SJ & Couture isn’t going anywhere. It’d be sad to see Thornton go but getting Kadri & Gardiner would soften the blow.

      • skr213 - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:08 PM


      • dueman - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:10 PM

        Kadri & Gardiner is not going to happen. If Joe were to waive his no move clause, (and that’s a big if!) it would not be to go to Toronto. Joe will only be entertaining the thought of leaving SJ, if he would be going to a Cup contender, and Toronto is no Cup contender. (and I’m a Toronto fan)

      • beergold - Jun 11, 2014 at 6:40 AM

        Dueman is bang on …no established NHL player that has a say or a desire to win, will EVER agree to a trade to the Laffs.

  11. bucfanforlife - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:38 PM

    come to st.louis just what we need a first line center, plus I love that he kod perron

  12. ronniethec - Jun 10, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    It really does not make much of a difference what they do with Joe. The Sharks are the Sharks.

  13. ronniethec - Jun 10, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    As a Kings fan for 44 years and a season ticket holder for 37, one of the fun things about being a fan is the rivalries that develop and the emotions that exude from those rivalries. As much as I dislike the Ducks, I dislike the Canucks more. And as far as that goes, I think I despise the Sharks the most. Therefor, it does my heart good to truly see the Sharks in the tank. So as far as big Joe is concerned, I think whatever move the Sharks make will turn out to be the wrong one.

    • skr213 - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:09 PM

      The exact amount of class I would expect from a Kings fan. Well played.

  14. govtminion - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:01 PM


    I’m not a Sharks fan, but… we’ve been watching Thornton, Marleau, etc. in San Jose for over a decade now, and it hasn’t panned out yet- not the way it should have, at least. Popular player or not, at some point they need to figure out if he’s really the thing to put this team in a position to win a Cup, and the results speak for themselves. They just don’t win the big games- time to see what you can get out of a trade and see if another makeup will work better for this team.

    (And I speak from experience- I wasn’t happy with the Bruins trading Thornton years ago, but it ended up being the right move, eventually, for the team. Hopefully it’s the right move for the Sharks too.)

  15. lordfletcher - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    both GM’s for MN and San Jose have been friends of late…

    Koivu for big Joe sounds nice for both if a change is needed.

    San Jose gets a younger C while MN gets a guy who can really rack up the points for another couple of seasons.

    • ethanmacleod1685 - Jun 10, 2014 at 11:10 PM

      Thornton for Koivu? Are you serious? No, just nooooooo

    • lordfletcher - Jun 11, 2014 at 11:08 PM

      don’t take that as the literal trade, of course there could be more added… but do realize Joe is 4 years older. After 30, that’s a huge determining factor in trades.

      So nooooo. just noooo… dippy do


  16. ronniethec - Jun 10, 2014 at 6:21 PM

    What was well played was the last 4 games between the Kings and Sharks.

  17. sidneydeane35 - Jun 11, 2014 at 12:38 AM

    Are they starting to realize why Boston got rid of him.
    This guys got talent that we may never see. If he only hated losing more than he liked winning. Might give him that drive that would lead a team. Coasting to the bench, watching the play head into your own end when your down two goals, during the playoffs. Wouldn’t bother me if I didn’t think he was better than that.

  18. chunkyschoice - Jun 11, 2014 at 3:04 AM

    So should the sharks fans have a vote?

  19. spitfisher - Jun 11, 2014 at 6:35 AM

    I have said this for the last few years , SJ should have traded JT and got some real value out of him, rather than continue to resign him at a premium goal scoring salary for assists only.

    According to an interview with Mike O’Connell , they traded Joe from the Bruins for a number of reasons, the strongest reason is they saw a lack of leadership and complacency. instead in the very same lockeroom they saw a young man that had the work ethic, respect and leadership skills. it was at this moment that discussions came to the front of who to build the team around, they had signed Thorton to the max salary at the time and what they soon realised was inconsistent level of play, non inspiring, leaning on his stick, gliding into the offensive zone and not the playing with an edge play that got him to his first 100 point season. he stopped going into the dirty areas, avoiding contact despite his size. they decided to cut bait and assemble a nucleus around the other young player Patrice Bergeron.

    Things have not changed in SJ for JT. keep paying him and keep getting the results of under performing play during playoffs, lack of leadership and total lack of inspiring rookies and younger players, its just not there, it’s not in his DNA. Instead you get a hockey player with lots of assists and few goals during the regular season. Adam Oates was also talented in the assists in his era, but he was never paid 1/2 of what a decent goal scorer was paid.

    He’s a very good player but trade him now, because his stock is trending down, maybe you can get a couple of players or a decent pick that wants to take a team to the cup finals and win. seems like Joe would be complacent enough just to dust those individual trophies and keep them shiney.

  20. mattyjp84 - Jun 11, 2014 at 4:36 PM

    The sharks have a lot more problems than just Thorton and Marleau. They need help on 3rd and 4th lines and a new goalie whether its Stalock or somebody else but Niemi has to go. They also need a much faster D. Stuart and Hannan are too old and too slow. As a sharks fan I can say its gonna be awhile before they become a real cup contender. At the same time I dont understand why everyone puts so much pressure on them and not on other teams. So many other talented teams have not won the cup or come close either. The canucks a few years ago, the blues, the ducks this year, the penguins(since they won the cup in 09). The Sharks are hardly the only team that is close but struggling to find that missing ingredient whatever it may be.

  21. pantherpro - Jun 11, 2014 at 7:23 PM

    Jumbo we love u. Don’t go

    • rauhj - Jun 12, 2014 at 12:05 PM

      Come on Panther, it’s not about love it’s about winning in the playoffs. Focus you animal….

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