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Report: ‘very slim to no chance’ Boyle signs with Isles

Jun 9, 2014, 1:49 PM EST

From Andy Strickland:

If accurate, the Islanders will likely try to flip Boyle’s rights after acquiring them last week from San Jose in exchange for a fifth-round draft pick. Perhaps Tampa Bay is still interested?

Of note, the Isles managed to flip Christian Ehrhoff’s rights to Buffalo (for a fourth-round pick) after acquiring them in 2011 from Vancouver (also for a fourth-round pick) and failing to sign the defenseman, who ended up inking a big deal with the Sabres.

Boyle, 37, is apparently looking for a two-year deal.

  1. j22j - Jun 9, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    I don’t blame him, at 37 he has earned the right to play wherever he wants

    • rrsm53 - Jun 10, 2014 at 8:20 AM

      that he does, as long as he can still play at a decent level which is the big question mark.

  2. weenerman - Jun 9, 2014 at 2:26 PM

    Snow just throws around these picks without thinking. Yeah, he may be able to offload Boyle, but happens if this ends up like Vanek where he can’t sell or sells at a worse price? Idiot.

  3. jason9696 - Jun 9, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    I don’t see why anyone would want to play for the Islanders. Their team has been a mess for years. I really feel sorry for John Tavares.

  4. kreidsandslim - Jun 9, 2014 at 2:44 PM

    How Snow still has a job is beyond me.

    • ewampus - Jun 9, 2014 at 4:08 PM

      You can’t make UFA’s want to play for the Islanders. Some time (always) you have to over pay.

  5. bwayblueshirt - Jun 9, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    How do you not check with the guy before you trade for his rights?

    • miketoasty - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:20 PM

      That’s the point, you can’t. That’s why you trade for the rights to see if you can make something happen before there are potentially 28 other people trying to do the same thing.

  6. esracerx46 - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    oops

  7. islesjb - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    I try not to be a Garth Snow apologist but everyone bashing him for this move seems to be doing so with little thought and even less rationale. Unfortunately, this is the kind of thing the Isles need to do to land talent and LOOK- it just paid off and they landed a #1 goalie (Halak) that they’ve needed forever.

    This one appears to not be working out- big deal. This will play out one of two ways:

    a) trade the rights and get a similar pick back, as they did with Ehrhoff
    or worse case scenario:
    b) they can’t trade the rights and they lose a 5th round draft pick- a very low % pick for drafting an NHL caliber player- not the end of the world gents.

    Garth Snow is far from perfect but the people who constantly see anything negative related to the Islanders immediately go for the UGHH GARF SNOW IS A IDIOT; few of these people understand the difficult conditions he’s forced to operate under and the savvy moves he’s pulled in the past (Vanek/Moulson was a gamble that played out in the worst way possible- not defending that).

    • lordfletcher - Jun 9, 2014 at 6:27 PM

      “#1 goalie (Halak)”

      oh boy. I forecast Halak struggling in NYI a lot but Snow had to do something… two years too late but it is what it is now.

      “few of these people understand the difficult conditions he’s forced to operate under”

      I think most understand the issues with ownership and other misc. out of his control issues but a lot of the blame can still be pointed at Snow. They have a top franchise center and can’t pay people to play near him, also Snow has been drafting top players for how long now? Not bashing the Isle fans but everyone else see’s this clear as day.

      Losing a 5th round pick is a bigger deal than most internet GM’s brush off. Losing any amount of picks for a team that could possibly be drafting top 5-10 for the next 5 years (POSSIBLY and with the exception of next year) is a huge gamble one should not take, IMO. Trading for Boyle’s rights was silly, as I think most would have been shocked to see a 37 ish y/o guy with one, maybe two years left want to play in NYI, rather than choose his destination. I don’t see Tampa giving up a 5th for Boyle or any other team, I could be wrong but I am guessing Boyle picks where he wants to play next without his rights being owned.

      I really feal bad for NYI fans. New ownership and GM is needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Best of luck guys :)

  8. smarshall3789 - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:19 PM

    Garth Snow is a idiot. Just passing out picks like candy. How about you trade for someone who wants to be there dummy!

    • islesjb - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:21 PM

      Ie) this guy ^

  9. canadiansportsfan77 - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM

    One reason could be the Isles are close to having a new owner. It was reported a few days ago the Isles had been sold, and then revealed that the quote was mistaken but negotiations were still happening.

    Boyle might not want to get involved with this mess when he doesn’t have to. Also being said, Snow may not be much longer in the role if the team does in fact sell.

    Who knows if the team even moves to Brooklyn when a new buyer does arrive.

    • islesjb - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:35 PM

      Regardless of who buys the team, they’re moving to Brooklyn. An iron-clad 25 year lease has already been signed.

      Think Boyle simply wants to go to a team that has a better shot of winning a cup within the next two years and that’s completely fair.

      • canadiansportsfan77 - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:42 PM

        If someone wants to pay that kind of money for a team and doesn’t want to move to Brooklyn, they will not go to Brooklyn. Contracts can be broken.

      • islesjb - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:49 PM

        1) The reason they would pay “that kind of money” for the team is BECAUSE they are moving to Brooklyn. The impending move raised the value of the franchise significantly

        2) No- This contract cannot be broken. If contracts could be broken so easily, the Islanders wouldn’t still be playing in the Nassau Colosseum next year and would have moved out a long time ago.

      • boonies2013 - Jun 10, 2014 at 7:42 AM

        iron clad….hmmm.

        The late industrialist / tycoon JP Morgan was once asked the secret of his success in acquiring businesses.
        He said I make an effort to buy everything that isnt nailed down…and if i can pry it loose, its NOT nailed down!
        Point being any lease can be broken or ended or etc. so i wouldnt use that term…. just saying.

  10. 19inarow - Jun 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM

    Good.

  11. djshnooks - Jun 9, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    And who is going to trade for his rights, when they know he won’t play there?

    Only teams who have trouble landing free agents make this move…something a contender doesn’t have to worry about.

    And not to mention, Garth Snow decides to give up his ticket to McDavid/Eichel…so they will be entering a new building, with no first round pick to sell to their fans? (Which will undoubtedly be a top-10 pick again.)

    I can’t believe anybody would back Garth Snow simply because he’s able to land an average goalie that nobody wants…including teams who need a goalie.

    The Islanders need to clean house in 2015.

    • islesjb - Jun 9, 2014 at 5:44 PM

      A contender who wants the edge over the rest of the contenders; these teams aren’t concerned over giving up a 5th round pick if it gets them a player they want.

      Regarding the draft pick, deferring was the obvious move- few teams will make a decision that says to their fans, “don’t buy tickets this season, we will be picking within the top 5 in next year’s draft.” They have the mentality that they can get back to the playoffs next year and despite what the majority of people think, they aren’t going to be very far off; with healthy JT/Okposo, young guys like Strome and Brock Nelson continuing to produce/improve and consistency in net, this team won’t be a lottery pick in 2015.

      Not sure where you got this notion that nobody wants Halak; hard to say since he never made it to free agency. Look at his career numbers, he’s a number one goalie.

  12. djshnooks - Jun 9, 2014 at 4:53 PM

    And as for that “worthless” 5th round pick?

    See what Ondrej Palat did? He was a 7th round draft pick just 3 years ago.

    That’s why you don’t throw away picks.

    • actuary17 - Jun 9, 2014 at 5:31 PM

      There’s another 7th round pick with a pretty important game tonight in goal. Still I give credit to Snow for trying to make his team better.

    • islesjb - Jun 9, 2014 at 5:47 PM

      I never said a 5th round was “worthless.” Her’s a tip for you guy: if you’re putting something in quotes you should be…ya know… quoting something.

      I did say that it is a low percentage pick because the vast majority of them don’t pan out. The fact that you can cite a couple anomalies is irrelevant.

  13. phillyphanatic77 - Jun 9, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    This is Ron Hextall’s first chance to prove he’s different than his predecessors… if Paul Holmgren was still in charge I’d be about 90% sure the Flyers would trade for his rights. I mean he does fill a hole as a right handed, puck moving defender, however the front office would go about it all wrong and give him a 5-year deal worth $6 mil/per or something. If the Flyers do do that there will be some disappointed Philadelphians.

  14. jaysjaysallday - Jun 9, 2014 at 11:56 PM

    Haha don’t blame him. Go to the rangers and be a underachiever.

  15. bcisleman - Jun 10, 2014 at 12:11 AM

    Who is Andy Strickland? His twitter handle indicates he is an analyst in St Louis. Why should anyone assume he has ANY insights into Boyle’s mindset?

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