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Agent expects ‘heavy interest’ in Orpik, prefers long-term deal

May 29, 2014, 12:31 PM EDT

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Brooks Orpik is the longest-tenured player on the Pittsburgh roster but, given the uncertainty with his situation and in the Pens’ front office, it’s unclear if that tenure will extend into next season.

On Wednesday, Orpik’s agent shed some light into what the 33-year-old UFA wants moving forward, insisting the fact that Pittsburgh is GM-less won’t muddle contract talks.

From the Tribune-Review:

“We still have time,” Orpik’s agent, Lewis Gross, told the Tribune-Review. “Brooks isn’t a free agent until July. We’re not worried about Pittsburgh not having a GM right now…

… “I would expect there to be heavy interest in him,” said Gross, who declined to say if returning to Pittsburgh was a high priority for Orpik.

Gross also said a long-term deal will be preferable for Orpik, but did not specify how many years are desired in a new deal.

Though Orpik was sidelined for a good chunk of the playoffs with a knee injury, he insists his “body isn’t breaking down” and that he’ll be fully healthy come training camp time. But whether he’ll be at Pittsburgh’s camp remains up in the air, especially with the wealth of young talent the Pens have on the blueline in Olli Maatta, Derrick Pouliot, Scott Harrington and Brian Dumoulin.

As for financials and term… Orpik made $3.75 million annually on his last deal, a six-year, $22.5 million pact. While it’d probably be difficult for him to land something similar in length this time around, he could be getting something close to a comparable annual salary, especially given some of the deals handed out a year ago (like the four-year, $13.5 million deal Pittsburgh gave Rob Scuderi, for example.)

  1. AppealToReason - May 29, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    I feel like he’s destined for one of the teams like Toronto or Calgary that value meatheads with “grit” over the ability to make good passes and skate and stuff like that.

    • thesportsjudge - May 29, 2014 at 3:38 PM

      Edmonton maybe?

    • c9castine - May 29, 2014 at 5:51 PM

      have you seriously ever watched him play

      hes basically good for 3 reasons other than the fundamentals: skating, first pass, and hitting.

      not a meathead. how are you going to call a guy who doesnt fist fight in the NHL a meathead?

  2. bruinpred - May 29, 2014 at 12:42 PM

    Glad Nashville doesn’t need defensemen. He doesn’t have “grit”; he’s a hit and run guy.

    • hockey412 - May 29, 2014 at 1:29 PM

      YOU are a hit and run guy. Brooks just hits you and then looks at you funny. (By the way – all that hitting stuff…it’s IN HIS JOB DESCRIPTION).

      • bruinpred - May 29, 2014 at 1:49 PM

        If you are smaller than him or Brian Boyle.

      • hockey412 - May 29, 2014 at 2:12 PM

        I’ve already had this argument. Orpick doesn’t discriminate. He’s had legal, hard hits on Gryba, Kreider, on and on. However, the purpose of the body check is to separate the man from the puck, right? If you know hitting someone who is bigger than you won’t work, why do it?

        I just don’t understand how people call him a wuss, etc., then whine because he hits too hard.

      • storminator16 - May 29, 2014 at 1:57 PM

        “Hitting is in his job description.”

        Well, he should learn how to show respect. If this was 20 years ago, Orpik would be lunch meat. If he is going to hit that way, he needs drop the gloves every now & again. That goes for Subban (who I love) as well. Respect the game.

      • hockey412 - May 29, 2014 at 2:14 PM

        I think you need to take a look around at the other players in the league as far as “respect”, because your statement is just ridiculou – most likely he injured someone you really like and I am not ever cheering on injuries. But that’s understandable. Orpik does not need CTE to prove his worth to the league. If you don’t believe that, let’s wait and see how many teams look at him.

      • njadvocate111 - May 29, 2014 at 2:20 PM

        I’m not sure if Erik Cole/Stepan or Franzen would agree with that statement. He is another guy who doesn’t like to be held accountable for his actions. Add to the fact that he can no longer, skate or pass effectively, the only interest he will get are from teams with young d core, that he might be able to mentor on how to successfully play the game without a spine. Not the easiest thing to do. Absolutely hilarious that he made Team USA instead of Jack Johnson. Too bad Brian Burke isn’t available as a GM, he would be the perfect fit in Pitt.

      • hockey412 - May 29, 2014 at 2:38 PM

        He fought Cole, and fought Bortuzzi, though. Isn’t that the accountability you are talking about? I don’t remember anyone from NYR trying to engage him – but I’m also not going to argue that he has to fight after every hit. Fighting is illegal/checking is legal.

      • pepper2011 - May 29, 2014 at 2:58 PM

        Orpik is POS scumbag.

        Being a dman they pretty much always have the advantage, and have the offensive player in a vulnerable position.

        He takes advantage of that and he runs guys. He is usually running more of the skilled type player than the physical guy. Then he cowers when the it’s a level playing field.

        You can try to defend it all you want, but it’s gutless. The only ones who think its not are Pens fans.

        You can say “he doesn’t have to fight!” and, you would be right if he didn’t run around trying to hurt guys. Nobody is trying to fight Cam Fowler, or Kevin Shattenkirk… Why? they aren’t trying to end guys careers. If you play THAT way; you have to accept the consequences and man up.

        he broke Cole’s neck on dirty hit and still wouldn’t man up.

        He has no nuts and glass jaw.

      • hockey412 - May 29, 2014 at 3:25 PM

        Sooo…your position is that Orpik, who is playing defense, has no right to step up on a forward who is rushing toward him. Ok….but the thing about that is that you are wrong. It’s actually written into the rulebook. I’ve already talked about WHO he hits. But for the most part, it’s the skilled forwards who are foolish enough to put themselves in that position (try to skill their way around him instead of stopping up and waiting for the other forwards). No one can prove he’s trying to hurt people any more than Kronwall/Chara/Stuart/Pronger/Weber (etc etc) but if he’s trying to, shame on him.

        And again, case in point – no…you do not HAVE to man up. Not for a legal hit (actually not for any hit). Just some fact-checking on your rant though, yes, Orpik DID “man up” to Cole. Look it up. So, pointed mooted.

      • hockey412 - May 29, 2014 at 3:28 PM

        Also – if this rant of yours is the true ‘code’ and anyone that doesn’t follow it is a POS, why, then, can Lucic run a goalie and not have to fight Scott? Why send Thornton in to take his concussion? I know there’s always a catch with you guys (I didn’t use the word hypocricy this time, but I meant it), so why was that ok?

        And please, please, please don’t give me the whole ‘that was unrelated to Miller being run’ BS.

      • pepper2011 - May 29, 2014 at 4:41 PM

        John Scott was not on the team when he hit Miller. There were five Sabres that stood around waiting for someone else to do something.

        I believe Gaustad was the only one who stood up for Miller – the next game, and Lucic did answer. How many times should he have to?

        I am not saying if Orpik fought Campbell (or anyone) and the next year if the B’s traded for Gadzic he would need to fight him every time he plays the B’s.

        I also had no problem with him not fighting Thornton. He was outmatched and his level of importance to the team is far higher – the same reason Lucic or Chara should never fight Scott. risk vs. reward – Scott is out there for no other purpose (Thornton can at least play)

        There were a handful of other guys that would have fought him; including Campbell – who never wins at fights; who tried to engage him before the Thornton punch, but Letang had to protect him. Hamilton and Chara also tried right after the hit. I can only assume Boychuk, Iginla, and Lucic also made the offer.

        Like I said, for a ‘clean’ hit like that; you do NEED to answer. This hit wasn’t meant to do anything else, but hurt a guy. A guy who had been back only a few games from a concussion; don’t be so naive to think that Orpik didn’t know that.

        It was also boarder line. Very boarder line. If Eriksson got a piece of the puck before contact, it was .5 seconds AND there was a very good chance that he could have never touched the puck… What I mean to say is if the puck came of the boards at a 47degree angle instead of 46 degrees; he never touches the puck. It’s the whole vulnerable/blind side thing. I know he was turning, but he BARELY got a piece of that puck, and I am not sure about the timing… If it doesn’t graze his stick when he whips it around; Orpik is committed to running him. It was a dangerous play, and he knew it.

        Yeah, Orpik manned up with Cole – but when? after he was suspended and Broke Cole’s neck? he turtled at the time. Like the little POS he is.

        Clean or in many cases; not. If you are going to play that style of game and you don’t answer; you are a gutless, sackless coward.

        Boychuck hits like that, and EVERY Single time; clean or not he will step if someone wants to. The reason Mario and Gretzky had the guys they had on their team was to prevent guys like Orpik from taking runs at them. You can’t ignore that.

        Here are a couple names for you from Penguins history (1987): Rod Buskas (15 fights) , Wayne Van Dorp (9 in 25games), Dan Frawley (12 in 47g), Mark Kachowski (14 in 38g) and Jimmy Mann (3 in 9g).

        They were there to protect the skilled guys from players like Orpik.

        Also – you keep mentioning Gryba and Kreider as big mean guys. They have a career combined 4 NHL fights.

        It’s just gutless. If Luke Schenn ran around hitting Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz, Maatta, or even Beau Bennett like the WAY Orpik does and then Turtles… I bet you’d see it then.

      • hockey412 - May 30, 2014 at 8:32 AM

        You are ignoring the main fact…I’m all for retribution on a player. He steps on the ice and touches the puck, he’s fair game. AGREE?

        Hartnell started some crap with Letang right after a stroke. Bylsma called him out on it, and I believe Berube put it perfectly….”then don’t have him on the ice – that’s a stupid statement”. I’ll apply that to your comments about how Eriksson should have been off-limits b/c he just had an injury. If you think teams don’t go after Crosby still to this day, you’re wrong – we watch it ALL THE TIME. So here’s the answer. Instead of putting a half-crazed CTE-ridden POS 4th liner on the ice to fight one of 6 Dmen on the ice, hit him. Hit Orpik hard, and often. Every time he touches the puck. Even when the puck’s gone. All the time. The real POS wuss, in the Eriksson case, was the entire Boston team. Boychuk is a worthless, dirty, POS…he throws punches after every single whistle…it makes me SICK to watch…so hearing you talk about him like he’s some kind of honorable hero to you basically says all I need to know about you, and what you watch hockey for.

        Here’s a clue for all you traditionalists who are so far removed from the game that you simply think you’re watching super-hero’s and not people. At one point guys like you loved to rave about Pronger’s toughness too…..and how’s he doing now? You follow the sport so closely – why don’t you fill me in on how players have a responsibility to turn into what Pronger is now? There is no logic real enough for you to turn this putrid argument into something honorable. You won’t give two craps about Thornton when he’s not signed this year. You won’t give them either when he’s 45 and doesn’t know his own name. I applaud Orpik – not for his ‘borderline’ hits, if that what we have to agree that they are, but for playing within the rulebook and remembering it’s team first – he owes no one an explanation. You think we don’t watch people skating around hitting crosby/malkin…hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. More liberties are taken with those guys than most in the league, kid.

      • pepper2011 - May 30, 2014 at 11:12 AM


      • pepper2011 - May 30, 2014 at 11:44 AM

        I didn’t say he was off limits; read it again. It was a very dangerous play by Orpik. You will never change my mind. There was no way to be assured he would touch the puck, and as I said, The timing itself is questionable.

        The fact that he had to whip his stick backwards in HOPES of touching the puck and there was nothing Orpik could have done but blindside him leads me to believe it was dangerous. It’s taking advantage of a player in a vulnerable position. If you notice I don’t think the Kreider hit (for example) was a dirty play. Kreider was as much at fault. He was skating with the puck. Eriksson was turning to see if he could make a play. There was NO WAY Orpik could have known he was going to make contact with the puck.

        Pronger got hit in the eye with a shot.

        A better argument would be how Matt Cooke ( you know your former A Captain) blindsided Marc Savard and ended his career from hitting a guy in a vulnerable position. Guy still can’t go a day without headaches. I’m betting if Thornton did what he did to Cooke at the time; There would be a few less guys (Barrie, Nishkanen, Yandle, Karlsson, Kane, Montador, Ovechkin, Mcquaid, McDonough and Tyutin) That might not have lost time due to that piece of Scum that was employed by none other than the Pens.

        When there are consequences; people think about their actions.

        You obviously don’t watch hockey a lot. Boychuk, dirty? What are you talking about, seriously? You might be sick because you are drinking too much, or whatever your pregame meal is; the food is rancid.

        I love when you disprove yourself by making stuff up. it’s funny. You’d think a guy who plays 22+ minutes a night and was dirty might rack up more than 45 PIMS.

        You are wrong about Thornton too. He has his name on more Cups than Sid and Malkin. He is a good player; who thought of his team first. He did a stupid thing, but to think that he wasn’t aware that his actions could get him fined/suspended would be stupid. He was protecting the skilled guys and letting them know; if people are taking liberties with you; there is a price to pay. If Orpik doesn’t have a glass jaw and isn’t a major Vag – it’s 3 games at most.. maybe just a 10 min.

        I’m not pro fighting. I am pro consequences. Like I said, Nobody is doing that stuff to Shattenkirk, Fowler, etc…

        It’s the guys that turtle like babies. Orpik, Subban, Phaneuf, etc…

        ever notice how it’s always those guys?

      • hockey412 - May 30, 2014 at 12:02 PM

        Honestly Pepper, if nothing else, I can complement your persistence – even if I disagree with every damn word.

        Pronger did NOT simply take a shot to the eye. You discredit so much medical advancement and how things are treated in sports by taking this ‘superman exists’ approach. It’s a dangerous attitude.

        “It’s the guys that turtle like babies. Orpik, Subban, Phaneuf, etc…” Actually – I disagree again. It’s NOT always those guys. It’s also a lot of other guys…those are just guys that have happened to hit and/or start crap with members of the Bruins. The B’s fans don’t want anyone else in the league pretending to be tougher than the B’s pretend to be. If they do, holy crap it’s a war of wills, and spearing, and threats in the damn handshake line, and heads bashing into stanchions, and punches after the whistle, and coaches crying CONSTANTLY about actions being taken by other teams when his OWN team is also doing it…puke. He’s a pest that plays defense. and ALWAYS against someone smaller.

        And please…keep naming the two defenseman that YOU feel other teams defenseman should behave like hahahahhaha makes perfect sense that the B’s defenseman like Boychuk are NOT on that list.

        Boychuk is not clean. No. He is also not tough. He’s an honorless cheapshot artist that throws punches at every whistle. Every. Whistle. How is that clean?

        “He was protecting the skilled guys and letting them know; if people are taking liberties with you; there is a price to pay.”….no, he’s a goon who is one of 12 forwards letting the other team know that his team can act like goons (lucic) and he will step in and take the beating for them (scott). and it won’t hurt the team, because he’s of limited importance anyway. I’m sure you’ll be the first to visit his hospital room to remind him of his name in 5 years. OR, you’ll forget all about ol’ whatsmynameagain as soon as he isn’t re-signed this year.

      • pepper2011 - May 30, 2014 at 11:55 AM

        0 games.

        Both – far worse.

        Everyone acts like this is the first time a guy has been punched unexpectedly.

        I think it was lame. I don’t like it, but Seriously a 16 year old could have taken that hit and got up. Cooke and Walker were clearly trying to knock someone out with their punches, Thornton really wasn’t. it was a jab. If he can knock out a 230lb professional athlete with THAT punch; he should have been a boxer cause he’d be the greatest fighter of all time.

      • hockey412 - May 30, 2014 at 12:03 PM

        can’t watch the video, but I’m sure it was a thriller.

      • pepper2011 - May 30, 2014 at 12:48 PM

        Hey – here are some facts.
        Suspensions by season:
        Last 5 seasons: B’s – 7 Pens -12

        Bruins: 1
        Pens: 2

        Bruins: 1
        Pens: 1

        Bruins: 3
        Pen: 5 (led league)

        Bruins: 2
        Pens: 3

        Bruins :0
        Pens: 1

      • hockey412 - May 30, 2014 at 1:42 PM

        Completely irrelevant – but as long as you bring it up, we can examine. No one here is a stranger to hockey, these players, or the situations which arose to result in these suspensions.

        1) (just an side point, really) You double counted Asham’s suspension for cross-checking Schenn. Not a big deal.

        2) and MORE IMPORTANTLY. Take out the suspensions that were taken because players tried to ‘police the game’ themselves like Thornton. See what numbers you get. Then you’ll understand my original point. Are you saying that Godard had no right to leave the bench to stick up for Max and demand a fight? Are you saying that Asham had no right to police the game after a hard hit by Schenn? Neal had no right going after someone that hit Malkin?

        If you are, then I’d agree with you.

      • pepper2011 - May 30, 2014 at 1:59 PM

        I’m saying those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

        Your team is the dirty team.

  3. rushledger - May 29, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    He’s still an alright top 4 defenseman he will end up with good pay day.

    • pepper2011 - May 29, 2014 at 4:48 PM

      If he’s in your top 4; you are not winning the Cup.

      See the Penguins.

      34 year old Orpik is not 28 year old Orpik.

      • c9castine - May 29, 2014 at 6:03 PM

        how old is chara?

        you wonder why he looks like a pylon. deal with your own teams issues well deal with ours k pepper? thanks for the advice though been good hearing from you.

        i get the feeling you wear pink polos.

      • pepper2011 - May 29, 2014 at 6:13 PM

        Funny, I thought chara was a Norris finalist.

        You make it too easy.

        How many cups have pens made it to in last 5 years?

        Also- Dougie Hamilton will be more than ready in next couple years when chara is no longer elite.

      • c9castine - May 30, 2014 at 11:50 PM

        thats a comfy timeline you have there, last 5 years.

        hes a pylon.

        how many cups bruins have in last 25 years?

        here lets keep this real simple. both teams got bounced in the 2nd round this year. one of them won the president trophy.

        and you guys are always blabbering about regular season champs…

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2014 at 11:01 AM

        good effort.

        The whole point was how if Orpik is in your Top 4; you are not going to win a the Cup. I used 5 years to show his age. As in- the Pens haven’t won with this guy in the last five years, six years ago they did.
        Orpik was not playing in the NHL 25 years ago, For the last 5 years; he has been on very good penguins teams and not won. get it?

        The Bruins and Chara in particular keep getting called old, but he has been won a Cup, and been to another in that same 5 year span, so I suppose I am not too worried. It seems like they can make a run with Chara.

        really though, good effort.

      • c9castine - May 31, 2014 at 10:43 PM

        so your saying orpik is solely responsible for the outcome of the season?

        no effort needed.

  4. cjnbsc - May 29, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Niskanen is the Pittsburgh Dman you want in FA.

    • pjblake2redwings - May 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

      Niskanen is coming to Detroit!!

  5. pitpenguinsrulez - May 29, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    So long Brooks. You’re old and slow. You get burned a good bit nowadays. It’s time to see what all these defensive prospects can do. So long to Niskanen too.

  6. flyboystransport - May 29, 2014 at 1:27 PM

    He won’t get more than 2 years

    • storminator16 - May 29, 2014 at 1:55 PM

      100% agree with this sentiment.

      • flyboystransport - May 29, 2014 at 2:32 PM

        And it’ll be with a rebuilding team aka florida, edmonton

  7. hockey412 - May 29, 2014 at 1:33 PM

    It will be interesting to see what changes they make…they better get on this whole “GM” thing.

    I like Orpik. He’s been a solid 3-4D for a long, long time. He’s one of the few Dmen able to clear the front of the net. But, the problem is that he HASN’T been clearing the front of the net. I don’t quite share the same feelings about his footspeed. He’s not fast, but paired with someone faster than Paul Martin, he’d manage.

    I’d be all for paying off Scuderi and bringing Brooks back at the Scuderi rate as a 5-6D to end his career…but it’ll never happen.

    • steelpenbucs87 - May 29, 2014 at 3:43 PM

      I agreed with everything you said up until the last part. Frankly, I think Scuderi’s contract is still too rich for Oprik. If he were to take a pay cut – say to $2.5M – and sign for three years, then I’d be okay with it. Obviously that would be contingent on us ALSO getting rid of Scuds.

      With that being said, I fear the shoulder surgeries for Pouliot and Maatta may encourage the new GM to keep one or both (vomit everywhere) around, despite the fact that both should be ready early in the season, if not the start.

  8. storminator16 - May 29, 2014 at 1:54 PM

    I can see him as an Oiler. Mac T will claim “there was heavy interest….we had to jump in and make him an Oiler!” while there really isn’t any interest at all. Fast forward: Oilers land McDavid, Eichel, or Hanifin in the 2015 draft.

    MacT needs to do something epic (fail) since he missed out David Clarkson last summer. =)

    • pjblake2redwings - May 29, 2014 at 2:14 PM

      yea becasue David Clarkston came up big this year. I bet Toronto regrets that big time

    • storminator16 - May 29, 2014 at 8:58 PM

      How much of mess that would have been, huh? Everytime I saw a Leafs game this past season I laughed thinking about the fact Edmonton actually offered more money than what Toronto did. Ah, GMs are the source of the best comedy sometimes.

  9. jpat2424 - May 29, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    Why ? He stinks

  10. stixzidinia - May 29, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    As a Pens fan, I have a hard time believing there will be “heavy interest” in signing him to any kind of long term deal. Won’t happen.

  11. bwana63 - May 29, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    Hopefully, Oprick joins a Central team, to maximize the number of shots the Hawks have at him.

  12. nyrnashty - May 29, 2014 at 3:53 PM

    He turns 34 this September, he had 2 goals 11 assists last year, he’s old and slow maybe worth a cap hit of 2 million on a 2-3 year deal tops. I’m not really sure why the agent would expect heavy interest? Well, I guess an agent has to put a positive spin on their clients.

  13. njadvocate111 - May 29, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    Listen hockey412, you can make all the excuses you want to protect your little penguin boy toy. Bottom line is he is not good enough to make an impact on any team next year. He fought Erik Cole? Erik Cole jumped him, almost a year after Orpik broke his neck. Film dont lie. Thats not proving a point, thats showing part of the story to support the BS you spew. Bertuzzi jumped him when he almost ended Franzen’s career in a preseason game. He also fought Burrows, Lupul and Patrick Sharp. Scott wasn’t on the Sabres when Lucic hit Miller, they got him in response to that. You are proving our point. Do you think Thornton wanted to fight John Scott, or McQuaid wanted to fight Scott after the Ericksson hit? That is manning up, not fighting a guy that he could bench press, a year after breaking his neck. Its an embarrassment that you put him in the same breathe as Pronger, Chara and Weber. Listen to someone other than Mark Madden, it will probably do you some good.

    • hockey412 - May 29, 2014 at 4:33 PM

      Pretty sure he doesn’t need my ‘protection’ hahaha…but yes, Orpik did fight Cole, and Bertuzzi. You’re right, there’s Youtube of both.

      Credibility check for you – “almost ended Franzen’s career”???? You do know that he left the game with a Charlie Horse, right? Thank gad he rebounded from that cramp, man.

      And yes, to your point, Buffalo got Scott in reference to the Lucic running. But Scott fought Thornton instead. It was curious, huh….that debate isn’t new, it’s been on-going for some time.

      “That is manning up, not fighting a guy that he could bench press, a year after breaking his neck.”…so now you are saying he DID fight Cole? What the…..

      I do like Madden – er the supergenius – but I have no idea what his thoughts on Orpik or any Pens UFA are. I’m sorry to embarrass you by including him with Pronger (suspended more times than Orpik for bad hits), Chara (let’s not even discuss this, Patch), and Weber (Zetterberg/Backstrom…lots of hard hits here, some borderline). Actually I guess that’s how I include him in that list.

      This is fun :)

      • pepper2011 - May 29, 2014 at 6:08 PM

        The fact that you think you embarrassed anyone but yourself is funny.

        Let’s talk about chara. How many times has he been suspended?

        Let’s talk about “patch”

        Who tried to fight chara?
        Did the league change every rink in the game after that hit, pretty much taking responsibility for the injury?

        Lucic fought guastad for the miller incident. Scott trying to fight him was irrelevant to the miller incident beyond the fact that buffalo realized they had nobody with a sack besides guastad… Who they traded.

        Just like I don’t expect Matt Cooke to fight lucic every time he comes ton boston.

        You are wrong and live in a glass house of penguin hypocrasy and contradiction.

        If boychuk hit Crosby like that and bortuzzi or whomever came for him, he would answer.

      • hockey412 - May 30, 2014 at 8:43 AM

        Jesus you guys with your fighting jusitification. Read a little deeper and use context. The comment was about Dmen that play physical. I realize you’ve regressed to damn-near caveman status where you so heartily believe that playing physical means fighting. It doesn’t matter that no one stepped up on Chara, for example. The point was the commentor was saying Orpik is “bad” because someone’s career was at jeopardy. But you’ll justify the Chara hit and say the Habs fans are just whiney for the rest of your life. No…it was really, really effing dirty – one of the biggest embarrassments to a professional sports league of ALL TIME. But you don’t care about that. Because it’s all good, to you – no one stepped up. This mindset is not just sick, it’s dangerous for kids in hockey.

        You don’t have to like Orpik, or the precautions he takes to avoid CTE. Boychuk is one of the dirtiest players in the league – always sneaky too – with no honor whatsoever. We watch it all the time. We’ve seen Crosby be out of action for a considerable amount of time. But yeah…it’s all about ‘who answers’. Your mindset is stupid.

  14. hosewater2 - May 29, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    On July 1 it’s gonna be Meet the New Wade Redden, same as the Old Wade Redden

  15. penvik - May 29, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    Long time Penguins fan here. Losing Orpik is like a second birthday for me this year. Now if we can just drop Adams and Glass we’ll be on to something. Party time!!!
    Veteran defensemen are supposed to make the partner they play with better, this was the opposite for Orpik. Most of the time whoever his partner was had worse numbers playing with him.

  16. penvik - May 29, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    Pepper2011, did you realize in the new NHL, the way Orpik plays is the norm. You keep bringing up the players from the time before the instigator. Don’t try and tell us Penguins fans about abuse without answering for it. Crosby is the most abused superstar of all time (not my words, but directly from Don Cherry on coaches corner) and he hates the Penguins. But Cherry said in all his year he never seen a player abused night in and night out like Sid. Orpik doesn’t HAVE to fight anyone. Get over it already, it’s a joke that players have to answer for a big hit. I am all for dropping the instigator and going back to the way it was, but as it stands, you’ll just have to live with it.
    Also pepper2011, are you a Bruins fan by any chance? Because that would explain your argument to me. What Thornton did was 10x worse than anything Orpik as EVER done!! Period

  17. storminator16 - May 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM

    I love Pens fans. You are an enjoyable source of comedy.

    • drewzducks - May 29, 2014 at 9:39 PM

      I have to disagree. It’s quite sad that they believe their own stupidity. Has anyone ever seen a Pen’s fan and a Pet Rock in the same place, at the same time?

      • storminator16 - May 30, 2014 at 12:53 PM


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