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Carcillo might get automatic 10- or 20-game suspension

May 23, 2014, 8:56 AM EDT

Most of the time, the length of a suspension is left to the discretion of the NHL’s department of player safety, but the punishments are much stricter when it comes to any physical aggression on a player’s part towards an official.

Consequently, Rangers forward Daniel Carcillo‘s playoff run might be over because of his actions during Montreal’s 3-2 overtime victory last night.

Here is the incident in question:

If it is determined that he “applied physical force” against an official “in any manner,” but didn’t intend to cause an injury, then he will be handed a suspension of at least 10 games. If Carcillo “should have known” that his actions “could reasonably be expected to cause injury,” then his suspension will be a minimum of 20 contests. That’s per rules 40.2 and 40.3.

TSN’s Darren Dreger’s “sense” is that one of those two rules will be applied to Carcillo.

The Rangers have a maximum of 11 games left in their postseason run.

There’s also a chance he might get a less severe three-game suspension if they decide that he physically demeaned or deliberately used “physical force to an official solely for the purpose of getting free of such an official.”

That’s rule 40.4 and the least likely to be applied out of the three, in the opinion of TSN’s Bob McKenzie.

“Well, he can’t do that, obviously, what he did there, but we’ll let the league handle that,” Rangers coach Alain Vigneault said.

He went on to argue that if the league called a penalty on Canadiens forward Brandon Prust for his questionable hit on New York’s Derek Stepan, then Carcillo’s actions “probably wouldn’t have happened.”

  1. theroc5156 - May 23, 2014 at 9:00 AM

    I didn’t see anything wrong with what Carcillo did. That f.uck.ing official should get the suspension. He was the damn aggressor.

    • mshantz22 - May 23, 2014 at 9:07 AM

      Haha, no. It’s one thing if a ref jumps in the middle of a scrap, but he wasn’t. Say what you want about the officiating last night, but this linesman was doing his job. 10 games seems a bit harsh, but you can’t elbow a linesman in the mouth in a fit like Carcillo did.

      • ctochester12 - May 23, 2014 at 10:02 AM

        What did Carcillo do that the linesman should have even put his hands on him, no the linesman is the one that should have been ejected from the game. Carcillo was standing there, not skating towards the fight or anything.

      • ctochester12 - May 23, 2014 at 10:04 AM

        Ok if the penalty was on Carcillo then the linesman was in the right.

    • jb8588 - May 23, 2014 at 9:23 AM

      I agree with what you said except about Carcillo not doing anything wrong. When the scrap began, Carcillo is merely just standing there watching and for some reason the lineman comes in and grabs him in an aggressive manner. The lineman was definitely the aggressor in this situation, but Carcillo still shouldn’t of hit the lineman like that.

      • jaguar0413 - May 23, 2014 at 9:58 AM

        Carcillo had already been penalized for charging. He is required to go immediately to the penalty box. The Linesman’s job is to escort him there and make sure he doesn’t get involved in an altercation. Linesman did his job. Carcillo should be suspended. My guess is 11 games.

      • avscup - May 23, 2014 at 10:02 AM

        Well it’s the linesman’s job to get players to the penalty box after a penalty is called on them. Thus, he was doing his job, perhaps a little rougher than necessary but Carcillo was putting up resistance and obviously looking for anyone else that wanted to dance. None of us know what was said.

      • slysipops - May 23, 2014 at 10:57 AM

        yeah right…just MERELY standing there with his halo shining bright !

    • valoisvipers - May 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM

      I too have watched this clip numerous times and have yet to see what aggression Carcillo allegedly did. Am I missing something here?

      • dbreslow56 - May 23, 2014 at 3:46 PM

        Are you serious? You didn’t see Carcillo push the linesman several times in an attempt to break away? Are you sure you watched the entire video of the same incident? I thought everyone knows to stop and let the linesmen do their jobs. It’s kind of like when the police stop you. Shut up and let them do their jobs. Carcillo is a mo-ron. A real ultramaroon. Boy, did the Kings ever dodge a bullet when they dumped that guy!

    • imleftcoast - May 23, 2014 at 12:28 PM

      Since this is the NHL, my guess: 1 game to Prust and $5k to Carcillo.

    • canadiensfanno1 - May 23, 2014 at 3:47 PM

      Bye bye carcillo, bye bye Stéphan, bye bye Brassard, bye bye Rangers

  2. 950003cups - May 23, 2014 at 9:09 AM

    Well deserved.

  3. 950003cups - May 23, 2014 at 9:10 AM

    Rightfully so, nothing will happen to Prust.

  4. joey4id - May 23, 2014 at 9:11 AM

    Part of the blame for Carcillo’s behavior has to land on Driscoll. It’s not Driscoll’s job to man handle a player. These guys have to their job in a more passive manner.

    The refs are there to keep the peace and protect you from others and from yourself. As a player it’s very frustrating to be aggressed by one of them.

    Terrible job by Driscoll.

    • spiffy53 - May 23, 2014 at 9:30 AM

      i have to agree. the more you look at it, carcillo was not even looking at the fight when the linesman came over to grab him (this replay is not showing it-the other did). don’t get me wrong, carcillo is not in the clear here either. he was wrong too. we also don’t know if carcillo was told to get to the penalty box and ignored the order prior. I think both carcillo’s actions along with Driscolls need to be looked at. I am guessing 1 for prust, 3 for carcillo and maybe something from the league on what transpired regarding Driscolls actions.

      • idonthavethebloodyoucrave - May 23, 2014 at 10:40 AM

        The ref is in the right to remove ANY player from the surroundings of a situation if they deem it will escalate that situation by even the slightest manner. It makes even more sense when you add the fact that Carcillo was already penalized for charging, he was a direct factor in the emotional build up and aftermath, and he was very clearly agitated.

        I have no idea why you guys are getting so hung up on the ref removing Carcillo from the aftermath. He was in every right to do so.

      • dueman - May 23, 2014 at 2:05 PM

        It’s not the fact that Driscoll removed him, but rather the manner in which he did it. Driscoll was definitely being very aggressive in how he grabbed and removed Carcillo. I’ve personally never seen a linesman be that aggressive with a player that was not actually involved in an ongoing fight. Definitely a weird situation.

  5. 950003cups - May 23, 2014 at 9:12 AM

    But it really didn’t look like Carcillo did it on purpose. Maybe just give him one game. Just to make a point.

    • idonthavethebloodyoucrave - May 23, 2014 at 9:27 AM

      Kinda hard to do that. The rules are written regardless of intent as a deterrent to protect the referees.

      As the rules are written, Carcillo deserves a 10 game ban.

    • flyerspsu - May 23, 2014 at 12:51 PM

      it looked intentional to me, he even gave the ref a shot to the side before the 2nd shot

  6. govtminion - May 23, 2014 at 9:22 AM

    He definitely shouldn’t have been struggling with an official like that, but ten games- particularly in the playoffs- seems a little severe for this. Maybe a couple of games, I could see- he was kind of out of line, and he does have a history with the NHL front office to consider, but it’s not like he took a baseball-swing at someone or squirted water or something truly heinous like that. Seems like this is being made into something bigger than it should be.

  7. andyp03 - May 23, 2014 at 9:27 AM

    hopefully Carcillo chokes on a dick and dies.

  8. esracerx46 - May 23, 2014 at 9:30 AM

    Do Ranger fans really care if Carcillo is gone? Just wondering if you think he does anything of value for a hockey team.

    • bennydabeata - May 23, 2014 at 9:33 AM

      He has more goals these playoffs than the Habs’ captain

      • adszy2014 - May 23, 2014 at 1:27 PM

        But, only 2 points to Giota’s 6. Do you want to start to compare career stats too? Only 14 points in 45 games in the playoffs for Carcillo compared to 67 in 109 for Gionta…Maybe we can compare PIM’s 22 mins for Carcillo in these playoffs compared to a whopping 0 for Gionta.

    • homerx - May 23, 2014 at 9:35 AM

      He’s one of their only 2 enforcers so although not a bad loss a loss nonetheless.

      • esracerx46 - May 23, 2014 at 10:46 AM

        You don’t need an “enforcer” in the playoffs, let alone 2. If you have guys that will finish their checks, the enforcer becomes obsolete.

    • bmy0913 - May 23, 2014 at 9:51 AM

      Eh, he can make plays too. But we’ve also got to account for Brassard for the time being. There is a reason he was in the lineup in the first place. Rangers depth and rolling four lines is a big part of their overall game. If they lose anymore forwards, yeah they can put a body in there, but they are getting away from their game a bit.

      Problematic if Brassard doesn’t get back…not so much otherwise.

  9. homerx - May 23, 2014 at 9:34 AM

    It’s hard to tell if he was trying to pull away or if it was intentional. I would hope carbomb knows better and it was accidental. However, much of this needs to be placed on the officiating which has been horrible across the board during the playoffs; especially last night. Between Prust’s hit of Stepan and Subban a.k.a Paul Bunyan and Mr. Slew foot, Montreal should have had another 10 minutes in penalties at least last night. And Subban should have got a game misconduct for the slewfoot.

    From my vantage point the refs let the game get out of hand and the NHL clearly wanted to help Montreal out last night. Has Stepan said anything about Prust’s “accidentally on purpose hit”?

    • bmy0913 - May 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM

      I haven’t seen anything from Stepan on it yet. Hell, even JR commented on it in the first period and called it out. He got asked if this was an “accidentally on purpose” hit in response to the Price injury and he got a bit heated calling in “purposefully on purpose”.

      Prust left his feet. It was clearly an interference, but could’ve at least been justified as charging. But he’s dirty, and I think it’s pretty clear the only reason principle contact was to the chest was because he had a bad angle and couldn’t line it up properly.

      Tokarski played well though. I was impressed with the kid.

  10. flyboystransport - May 23, 2014 at 9:48 AM

    Typical goon……

    • bmy0913 - May 23, 2014 at 9:54 AM

      Yeah, you must be right. Because he immediately circled Prust and dropped the gloves the second they got on the ice together.

      Man, I must have missed that typical goon behavior. Far be it for me to think I had a grasp on the situation. Thanks for the enlightenment, pal!

      Maybe we can exchange emails…will you teach me to hockey?

  11. montrealbbr - May 23, 2014 at 9:55 AM

    Haha! See ya next season scumbag! You dont hit an official like that!

    • jason9696 - May 23, 2014 at 10:09 AM

      What about Prust’s late hit? I’m sure you don’t think that warrants a suspension because you’re a Habs fan right scumbag?

      • dolphincult - May 23, 2014 at 10:17 AM

        ok Jason idiot, I don’t usually tag a comment but a late hit is called interference. That’s what the Prust hit was. Nothing more, nothing less. They missed a 2 minute penalty which often get missed. The point of contact was shoulder to chest. Watch it again. Carcillo will get a few games because there is no way around that. You know from the time you are in peewee hockey that you can not contact an official in any way. Easy on the scumbag crap.

      • idonthavethebloodyoucrave - May 23, 2014 at 10:25 AM

        I’m not a Habs or Rangers fan and I don’t think it warrants a suspension.

        Neither did Roenick or Olczyk.

        All agreed it should have been a penalty and was a missed call by the refs.

        If the puck were in the vicinity of Stepan, that’s a solid clean hit.

      • justinhbhb - May 23, 2014 at 10:31 AM

        “Montreal fans are scumbags”. Pathetic. Grow up and deal with your team’s loss and stop pretending that McDonagh’s baseball swing slashes didn’t happen. Bad calls go both ways ALL GAME LONG and in EVERY GAME.

      • bmy0913 - May 23, 2014 at 10:58 AM

        Dolphin,

        I’ve gotta disagree man. Yes, the hit was late. But the charge is what I think not only needs to be reviewed, but also shows his malicious intent. Come on man…we know Prust…we know his gamesmanship. It sucks, the Rangers bought into it and got undisciplined. But he was not going in to finish a check. He doesn’t just catch him with the shoulder, he thrusts upward from the legs. The only reason he didn’t leave his feet or catch him in the head is he had a bad angle.

  12. puckmepuckyou - May 23, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    You have to take into account whatever he was saying as well. He could have used threatening language that we didn’t hear. Definitely landed an elbow tho. This may be a set an example type of moment.

  13. hrudey - May 23, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    What led up to what happened is immaterial. I still can’t believe there were people justifying Bertuzzi’s hit on Moore because Moore wouldn’t skate up and let Bertuzzi have a go at him. Carcillo’s actions were reactive, and unfortunate, but the rules are clear – you hit an official, you miss a lot of games.

    • dueman - May 23, 2014 at 2:26 PM

      Actually what led up to what happened is definitely material. What do you think gets talked about during those suspension meetings? Also, what does the Bertuzzi/Moore incident have to do with any of this? Everything is taken into account when deciding punishment, except in cases where the punishment is automatic.

      • hrudey - May 23, 2014 at 5:15 PM

        In this case, it is (and was) automatic. And what led up to it in this case is immaterial; the simple response is “You hit an official.” Period, end of story. The Bertuzzi example was just to illustrate that no matter how indefensible an act is, there are always idiots still defending it (oh, Moore’s hit on Sedin was dirty, he didn’t want to fight, etc.). All of that is background, but the player is responsible for what he does, and in this case, he hit an official, end of story.

  14. justinhbhb - May 23, 2014 at 10:27 AM

    Prust’s hit was dirty and worthy of a fine and/or suspension. BUT THERE IS NO DEFENDING CARCILLO with these “the referees were too aggressive with him” statements. These guys are professionals and paid tons of money. Carcillo’s actions make the referees and league as a whole lose credibility and look like a bush league.

  15. 7mantel - May 23, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    What was the Canadians battle cry about not getting respect from the Bruins about ?

    • 7mantel - May 23, 2014 at 10:37 AM

      Whoever gave me the instant thumbs down ,Not being sarcastic !

  16. 950003cups - May 23, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    Radio is full of crying rags over refs missing the Prust hit. It was a first period hit. Stepan was fine and his head was never touched.

    So grab your tampons and wipe away your nagging.

    • President Charles Logan - May 23, 2014 at 11:50 AM

      950003cups who are you kidding?? you were once a Rangers fan many years ago .. until you couldnt afford to take the ferry across the river anymore as well as the MSG ticket prices

      • idonthavethebloodyoucrave - May 23, 2014 at 11:57 AM

        Or when he decided he wanted to root for a team that wins the championship more than once every 70 years … ZING.

      • President Charles Logan - May 23, 2014 at 12:17 PM

        i dont care , i aint a rangers fan anyways .. but i bet most devil fans back in day were fans of the rags or isles or heck even the flyers before the devils even existed

    • doknyc - May 23, 2014 at 12:23 PM

      yeah… and if it was a habs player, youd be whining about how life is unfair, the world is against you, and that the NHL is rigged….

      typical frenchie attitude…

    • dan1494 - May 23, 2014 at 1:10 PM

      Stepan has a broken jaw. The point of contact was the head. Wise up or get glasses

  17. tommydugan39 - May 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM

    Rangers played like kids running around thinking we got this won. We need to play team yes we are a fast speed go team but let’s control the puck first then go. No movement and too much scramble and flop. Time to refocus and get back to the hockey we can play……. One game at a time……

    • 91topgun - May 23, 2014 at 3:39 PM

      Lolololololololololololololololololololololololololol Rangers are garbage. You should be used to that by now. Even if they make it out of the series in one piece, there’s no way “king” hank can get lucky more than a handful of times against the west.

  18. imnotyourbuddyguy - May 23, 2014 at 11:00 AM

    Why does Carcillo wear a helmet? It’s not like there is anything to protect up there.

    Sure are a lot of weak opinions here
    So what if the linesman lol “man-handled” Carcillo. The response for that is to complain after the game to the league. Not physically abuse the ref.

    He’s toast

  19. 2qswing - May 23, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    I have no dog in this fight. One of the worst officiated games of the year. From the big obvious things like the Prust hit, and Suban slew foot to little things like blown icing calls, face off false starts. How they handled the aftermath of the Dorsett/.Prust fight … amateur hour.
    Carcillo is a marginally talented loud mouth mostly known for taking stupid penalties. But These 4 clowns working this game made a bad situation worse.

    People are asking “how could they all miss the hit ” answer… they saw it, they just didn’t call it.

  20. doknyc - May 23, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    carcillo should get one game, tops… hockey is a physical game, if you dont like it, well, the NBA is waiting for your viewing pleasure ….

  21. storminator16 - May 23, 2014 at 12:54 PM

    …..

    What stick hitting the linesman?
    What elbow?

    What the hell are you folks talking about? Driscoll was jostling with Carcillo, he didn’t have the best balance in the world there. This is all non-sense.

  22. skr213 - May 23, 2014 at 1:05 PM

    Seems very obvious to me that Rule 40.4 should apply. He was clearly using “physical force to an official solely for the purpose of getting free of such an official.” He wasn’t trying to do anything other than get free. Use of Rule 40.2 or 40.3 would be absurd overkill. Three games.

    • adszy2014 - May 23, 2014 at 1:30 PM

      10 + 10 for your stupid comment

  23. idonthavethebloodyoucrave - May 23, 2014 at 3:28 PM

    No brainer for the NHL.

    Carcillo is suspended for 10 games.

    Easy one to call.

  24. 91topgun - May 23, 2014 at 3:35 PM

    Lol who cares about the ECF anyway. They should just give the cup to the winner of the WCF. Lord Stanley is already planning his summer in Cali.

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