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Snider sees good and bad on 40th anniversary of Flyers’ first Cup

May 19, 2014, 4:30 PM EDT

Forty years ago today, the Philadelphia Flyers won the Stanley Cup for the first time in franchise history, beating the Boston Bruins in six games and triggering a huge celebration in the City of Brotherly Love:

The Broad Street Bullies won it again in 1975. However, they’ve come up short in each season since, despite having some very good teams.

In fact, since they last won it all, the Flyers have made it to the finals six times and lead the league with 15 conference-finals appearances.

“Well, it’s very frustrating,” owner Ed Snider told CSN Philly. “Everybody wants to win the Cup. As the years have gone by, it’s gotten more and more difficult because there’s more and more teams, there’s more and more parity, the quality of the executives around the league is outstanding, the quality of the coaching. Things have changed drastically in those years.”

That doesn’t mean Snider doesn’t appreciate what the Flyers have accomplished. He still has fond memories of their Cup wins, and even their six other Stanley Cup Final appearances.

He pointed to the injuries the Flyers have suffered along the way, from goaltender Bernie Parent in 1975-76 to, more recently, the loss of defenseman Chris Pronger, as contributors to the Flyers’ drought. Not as a way to say that Philadelphia has been unlucky, but just to highlight how difficult it is to win it all.

“Everything has to come together,” Snider said. “You have to stay injury-free. You have to have a good goalie, you have to have all kinds of things working for you. It doesn’t always come together at every time.”

As for his plans today, Snider doesn’t have anything special in mind. The Philadelphia Flyers’ victory is “ancient history.” He wants something new to celebrate.

  1. flyboystransport - May 19, 2014 at 4:44 PM

    Pelle Lindbergh dying didn’t help. The supposed brindamore for Shanahan trade would’ve helped lindros not get beat up as much. They’ve made a lot of dumb front office decisions that given what they have accomplished might have helped them win a few more

  2. pitpenguinsrulez - May 19, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    Have you ever seen the Flyers win the Cup? Cause unless you’re old as dirt you’ve never seen it!

    • barkar942 - May 19, 2014 at 5:19 PM

      Hey, little obnoxious puppy! I’m old enough to remember the Miracle Mets of “69 AND man walking on the moon for the first time! Watch who you be calling OLD AS DIRT!
      (jk)

      • mangoman1966 - May 19, 2014 at 10:16 PM

        You tell em old man.

      • barkar942 - May 20, 2014 at 12:51 AM

        LOL!

    • petersteelewannabe - May 19, 2014 at 5:43 PM

      Have you ever been in fear of your franchise folding due to fan apathy? If not, your a teen ager or younger.

      • iwt5007 - May 20, 2014 at 8:48 AM

        Hahaha nailed it!

    • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM

      You dont have to be that old to see the two Pens bankruptcies

      • steelcity333 - May 19, 2014 at 8:02 PM

        Just shows you how well they have been run. Two bankruptcies, near death of the franchise, and still have managed to win 3 Stanley Cups since the Flyers last won one. I think that’s pretty damn impressive.

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 19, 2014 at 8:49 PM

        Forgot to mention all that losing and mismanagement afforded them annual high draft picks, actually not all that impressive when you consider they were rewarded for being the dreck of the league for like 25 years

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 19, 2014 at 9:10 PM

        My bad 23 years of losing

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 19, 2014 at 9:13 PM

        Sorry for like 23 years my bad

      • flyerspsu - May 19, 2014 at 9:30 PM

        steelcity the Penguins were the laughing stock of the league for the 1st 25 years in the league which led to several top picks getting them once in generation talents like Lemeiux, after the Lemeiux era the Penguins went back to being the laughing stock of the league and in process got 4 straight top 2 overall picks that once again led to a once in a generation talent in Crosby and other great players

        there is absolutely nothing impressive about that, the Penguins just got lucky w/ players like Lemeiux, Jagr, Crosby, Malkin etc coming out in some of the years they were horrid gift wrapping the franchise a contender for years to come as a result of being so bad for so long

      • mangoman1966 - May 19, 2014 at 10:32 PM

        Bad owners. Greatest fans in the world. Your day may be coming little man.

      • steelcity333 - May 19, 2014 at 10:42 PM

        Thanks for the history lesson. Fortunately that is history. The Flyers Stanley Cup drought is not history because it is still going on.

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 20, 2014 at 6:36 AM

        The cup drought will end one day the fact the the Pens were the doormat of the NHL and had to be rescued by the NHL will never go away

      • steelcity333 - May 20, 2014 at 7:54 PM

        Neither will the fact that the Flyers went 40+ years, 40+ YEARS, without ending their season with a win. Ouch.

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 21, 2014 at 7:50 AM

        Hate to break the news to you but the Pens are on the same clock and if they don’t grab another one real soon in the crysb-malkin era you’s most likely will go bankrupt for a third time ! The clock is ticking hahahahaha !

      • steelcity333 - May 21, 2014 at 7:15 PM

        The only difference is the Flyers clock broke a LOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNGGGGGG time ago. The Penguins haven’t even had to change the batteries.

    • courtjester1234 - May 20, 2014 at 4:43 AM

      I seen both of their Cups and at 49 I’ll knock you the kcuf out elohssa. You see you can’t beat us old guys because you ain’t got the balls. Now go back to drinking your Starbucks as you go “free running” you pansy

  3. steelcity333 - May 19, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    Trying to not say anything……… It’s very difficult but I’ll try.

    • petersteelewannabe - May 19, 2014 at 5:41 PM

      I understand, I had to do the same thing when NYR took out your boys in game 7, it ain’t easy…but it is appreciated.

      • steelcity333 - May 19, 2014 at 6:44 PM

        Also should hold it back because your boys got knocked out one round earlier by the same exact team. Not much you could possibly brag about anyway.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - May 19, 2014 at 10:08 PM

      Except that our boys went back and forth with the Rags and ended up getting defeated. We didn’t have another full blown playoff melt down and piss away a 3-1 series lead.

      • steelcity333 - May 19, 2014 at 10:39 PM

        I couldn’t care less if we blew a 3-1 series lead in the second round or lost a hard fought series in the first round. Bottom line is we’re not playing anymore. It appears to me you’re fine with the Flyers losing in the first round as long as they fought hard.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - May 20, 2014 at 12:22 AM

        It appears to me your fine with the Pens quitting during the playoffs.

      • mangoman1966 - May 20, 2014 at 8:36 AM

        Lost seventh game to rangers because of a white hot goalie and stupid penalty. Ain’t like the raggers blew the doors off of the pens. Speaking of blowing the doors off your sister was telling me…

      • broadstreetbeatdown - May 20, 2014 at 10:10 PM

        Not sure what part of North America you’re from, but the western part of my state is called Pennsyltucky and that the sister thing is a pretty common thing over there.

        BTW losing 3 straight when you’re up 3-1 in the series can most definitely be classified as getting your doors blown off. You can get back to your toothless sister now.

  4. joey4id - May 19, 2014 at 5:30 PM

    Trivia question; who convinced Mr. Snider to purchase an NHL franchise?

    • maalea - May 19, 2014 at 10:23 PM

      .Boston Bruin fans, He saw hundreds of fans lining up to buy tickets for an also ran team.

      • joey4id - May 19, 2014 at 10:56 PM

        It was Lorne “Gump” Worsley. Ex NHL goalie

  5. President Charles Logan - May 19, 2014 at 5:43 PM

    to their credit they have made it to the finals a half dozen times since 75… but unfortunately , nobody remembers the runner up .

    • flyerspsu - May 19, 2014 at 6:28 PM

      sigh. not to mention all the close game 7 losses in the conference final to the eventual cup winners

      • President Charles Logan - May 19, 2014 at 6:51 PM

        that devils game 7 when was it ?/ 2000?? 2001? … lindros came back too soon…. then a few of those series a couple years later ya’ll had vs ottawa & buffalo where it seemed you guys couldnt score … even i was shocked

      • flyerspsu - May 19, 2014 at 7:28 PM

        Also I think it was 2004 vs Tampa in gm 7 before they beat a Calgary team the Flyers very likely would have beat

      • maalea - May 19, 2014 at 10:28 PM

        Lindros scored a goal in game 6 of that series, that was correctly disallowed, time ran out in the 2nd? period by about 2 tenths of a second.

        Game 7 he got laid out by Stevens.

    • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 19, 2014 at 8:51 PM

      Seems you did ..lunch time mmmmm good !

  6. statsdolie - May 19, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    Flyers have the highest regular season winning percentage since their last cup unfortunately none since then. Sigh

  7. flyerspsu - May 19, 2014 at 6:23 PM

    The Flyers are top 3 in pretty much every winning statistic since they joined the league, the big one they arent is Cups, it’s ashame b/c they could have easily could have won a few more and would be considered among the elite franchises

    • President Charles Logan - May 19, 2014 at 7:00 PM

      game 7 in 1987 vs edmonton when hextall won the mvp even being on the losing side..you guys were facing a dynasty then

      • flyerspsu - May 19, 2014 at 7:45 PM

        Yeah 85 w/ Pelle was another final loss to that dynasty, 97 I believe was a final loss to that Red wing ‘dynasty’as well but they got smoked in that one

      • 67nova - May 19, 2014 at 8:03 PM

        I believe the Oilers had the puck in the Flyers end for 18 minutes of the 3rd period in that game.

      • maalea - May 19, 2014 at 10:37 PM

        “76 Montreal starts 4 cup run.
        ’80 NYI start 4 cup run
        ’85-87 Edmonton 5 cups
        ’97 Red Wings 4 cups in 11 years
        ’10 Blackhawks 2 in 4 and still alive.

        If you want a dynasty, pray you can meet and beat the Flyers in the finals.

    • mangoman1966 - May 19, 2014 at 10:21 PM

      Coulda woulda shoulda.

  8. gbart22 - May 19, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    Should have kept Richards and carter

    • President Charles Logan - May 19, 2014 at 6:58 PM

      yep i agree. but … there’s a bunch of different opinions about that in flyers-ville

    • flyerspsu - May 19, 2014 at 7:53 PM

      i disagree, they got the good young pieces they wanted to build a good team, just every other part of the team has been bad and the team is still young and developing, Couturier, Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn plus picks is fine but when you lose Pronger and have the overpaid slow defense that doesnt even have a #2, trade JVR for Schenn and sign guys like Vinny that is always going to set the team back

      • mcphillthy - May 19, 2014 at 8:53 PM

        I agree with flyerspsu. I like both of those trades still! Losing pronger is what hurt the most. If we still had pronger we are a completely different team. That old Bastard had that big of an impact

    • broadstreetbeatdown - May 19, 2014 at 10:29 PM

      Yeah OK.

  9. muckleflugga - May 19, 2014 at 8:54 PM

    y’all

    here i thought president charles logan was just another semi-illiterate hick from america’s red-neck hick-ridden southland, presenting nothing more than uniformed opinion on any technical aspect of the game of hockey … i was in part mistaken

    y’all

    a fan but hardly a player, chucky clearly knows jack about hockey … but he’s not so illiterate as it would seem … the prez has a sly manner and self-deprecating presence i’ve never noticed while otherwise attempting to discern anything of consequence in his offerings: either inane attacks on other posters or repeating content of the blog itself

    y’all

    in weighty summary of flyers’ history, our own king biscuit boy was able to observe how nobody remembers the runner-up, this while noting flyers made it to the finals a half dozen times since 1975

    at least one ‘nobody’ remembered

    y’all

    • youvebeenphaneufed - May 20, 2014 at 6:36 AM

      didn’t bother reading this, especially when you start with “y’all”

  10. petersteelewannabe - May 19, 2014 at 9:29 PM

    Of the six Finals the Flyers lost;
    ’76, if Parent wasn’t injured, Philly gets Cup #3 in a row, no question.
    ’80, even though they got hosed by the worst missed off sides in playoff history, the Isles were still the better team.
    ’85, no comment, they were lucky to even win one against the Oilers.
    ’87, perhaps best Finals in NHL history, no Kerr, and tons of other injuries etc, still, they almost got it done in a seven game classic. Oh, what could’ve been. I loved this team, just as proud of them as the Cup winners, had more heart than any Pens team will ever know.
    ’95, going in, I was sure we had it in the bag…ouch, total domination by Detroit.
    ’10, given zero chance going in, and while Chicago was the better team, they were almost worthy of the 1987 team. I still think about Carter having three quarters of an open net with about a minute to go…and putting it square into Niemi’s face mask. It has to said though, if it went game 7, the heartbreak would have been even worse than that freak goal by Kane.

    • mangoman1966 - May 19, 2014 at 10:29 PM

      That was the only game I ever pulled for the flyers to win. Not many pen fans would admit that.

      • petersteelewannabe - May 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM

        Which game?

    • maalea - May 19, 2014 at 10:46 PM

      I think that the heartbreak was worse with Kane scoring on our ice, as we got screwed out of Kane buy the FN ping pong balls.

      • maalea - May 19, 2014 at 10:50 PM

        *by

  11. cjb5671 - May 19, 2014 at 11:11 PM

    I love the Flyers but the organization’s fascination with size has held them back for about 20 years now. You need skaters in today’s NHL. Hopefully Hextall has a plan to remedy our lack of speed.

  12. flyboystransport - May 20, 2014 at 1:23 AM

    What do most of the recent cup winners have in common? They’ve drafted the key players that helped them to a cup. I hope to god snider/Holmgren allow hextall to do what he said is the new direction meaning they’re gonna focus on player development more than free agency

    • youvebeenphaneufed - May 20, 2014 at 6:40 AM

      The problem is, they don’t have very many players to develop…I mean, unless you want to sit back and wait for 5-6 years. They have a good core nucleus of young talent with Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, etc. but they don’t have much in the AHL, and Laughton is still only like 18.

      • flyboystransport - May 20, 2014 at 9:15 AM

        And the reason for that is other than 1st round picks they generally don’t draft or developed nhl players through their system in particular dmen

  13. hockeyfan1701 - May 20, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    Interesting how great a regular season in this thread gets a pat on the pack even without winning the cup, yet that is troll bait when the exact same posters talk about the Penguins. Bottom line expectations are high for both teams, no one remembers who lost the cup, who won the Presidents Trophy, division title, etc. The only thing that is remembered is who has a Stanley Cup banner hanging from the rafters of their arena.

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