Skip to content

And then there were 7: Penguins eliminated

May 13, 2014, 10:00 PM EDT

Pittsburgh Penguins v New York Rangers - Game Four Getty Images

For more entries in this series, click here.

For all the regular season successes and stories of resiliency, the Pittsburgh Penguins have seen their postseasons end in very sour ways the last few years. You can now add “the bitterness of coughing up a 3-1 series lead” to that list of recent disappointments as the New York Rangers bounced them in Game 7 by a score of 2-1.

Let’s look at the complete picture, even if there might be some panic in Pittsburgh:

  • Sidney Crosby blew everyone else away in regular season scoring. His 104 points topped everyone by a large margin; no one else even crossed the 90-point barrier (Ryan Getzlaf came in at second place with 87).
  • Of course, things didn’t work out quite so well for Crosby during the postseason. Evgeni Malkin actually enjoyed a fantastic playoff run after “only” scoring 72 regular season points. Expect a mind-numbing array of stories pondering what’s wrong with Crosby … including maybe even a tangible update or two (maybe an actual injury update if applicable?).
  • Marc-Andre Fleury seemed to settle himself down after Mario Lemieux gave him a locker room visit following a tough first-round loss. Still, the questions about “The Flower” will probably persist amid his ups and downs. The interesting thing with Fleury is that unlike Crosby, Malkin and other key cogs, he isn’t locked up long-term … with a contract to expire after 2014-15, he’s approaching a real fork in the road.
  • The questions about head coach Dan Bylsma’s job security will probably be quite a bit louder, however. The amicable coach navigated the challenging waters of another regular season and helped Pittsburgh shake off the typical run of injuries to win their division, but work before mid-April is taken for granted now with the Penguins. He’ll be questioned for a perceived lack of adjustments and a variety of other failings that may or may not be his fault. Many believe this is finally the time that his second chances will run out.
  • While the big names are locked in, the supporting cast could change drastically in Pittsburgh. Matt Niskanen is the biggest free agent name to consider after a breakout season, but Jussi Jokinen joins the likes of Brandon Sutter and Brooks Orpik as the Penguins don’t have many players lacked up outside of the core. That could be intimidating or promising depending upon your opinion of GM Ray Shero (assuming he’s still the general manager).
  • The Penguins were patient after being swept from the 2013 Eastern Conference finals by the Boston Bruins, but will the franchise weather the storm this time? It’s difficult to imagine this team without some significant changes … the question is: how drastic will those alterations end up being?

109 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. isphet71 - May 13, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    Another great performance by THE GREAT CROSDINI!

    • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 13, 2014 at 10:18 PM

      They should call it the CONSOLE CENTER ahhahahaha

    • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 13, 2014 at 10:23 PM

      Does this mean the Pens cant win a cup this year ?

      • mangoman1966 - May 13, 2014 at 10:42 PM

        Come on. Elmer. Another beast has risen in the east which just pushes your pathetic flyers further down the totem pole

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 14, 2014 at 1:10 AM

        Up 3-1 in the series and lost

    • icelovinbrotha215 - May 13, 2014 at 11:44 PM

      Is it okay to call out Sir Sid? Or is that not allowed because he is the ‘face of the NHL?’

      • gnashty - May 14, 2014 at 9:23 AM

        I would say that Sid has recently gotten a lot of criticism over this series and last series(not as much as he deserves though). But give it to the Rangers. They played 2 of the top 3 point leaders in the NHL these playoffs and have shut them both down equally in a 7 game series. The Rags have a very very good defense with an even better goaltender. They literally swarmed Crosby this entire series and Giroux the series prior. Give the Rags some credit.

        With that said – the elite players in the league MUST find a way to get it done.. Neither of those 2 did.

  2. c1md6 - May 13, 2014 at 10:08 PM

    HAHAHAHAHAHA you Penqueens lost to the lowly Rangers!!!! At least of we had our starting goalie we would’ve taken care of the boo shirts. Wow what a joke the queens have become.

    • killerpgh - May 13, 2014 at 10:23 PM

      Mason has been in the 6 years. Still has ZERO playoff series win.

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - May 13, 2014 at 10:24 PM

        Dude your reachin

      • bmoreredfury311 - May 13, 2014 at 10:41 PM

        Boo! take your licks. Your hens suck, just like the other teams not playing right now. Get off your unrealistic high horse.

    • mangoman1966 - May 13, 2014 at 10:51 PM

      Lowly rangers. Don’t think so.

  3. apkyletexas - May 13, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    Were they trying to score in the 3rd period, or just biding their time for the game to end? There was one burst of high energy near the Rangers’ net with about 4 minutes left, but other than that a lot of laying back and standing around.

    Lemieux needs to start canning guys right away – starting with the top. I can’t see how you can keep Shero and Bylsma after putting together this train wreck of a roster.

    It’s become more clear than ever that Bylsma won with Therrien’s squad despite himself in 2009. The dude just has zero energy.

    • johninpa - May 13, 2014 at 10:18 PM

      Pathetic, just pathetic. We better see some big changes this off season.

    • bwayblueshirt - May 13, 2014 at 10:31 PM

      Coming from a Rangers fan, I don’t see how you can knock Sure, he over-acquired last year, but the only thing Shero did wrong was fail to address the one gaping 5-hole in the Pens line-up. With Vokoun injured he should have tried to snatch up one of the many goalies boarding flights at the deadline. Bylsma will be ousted, probably picked up by VAN or WSH (wouldn’t that be interesting), but I just can’t see much blame placed on Shero for this.

      • bwayblueshirt - May 13, 2014 at 10:32 PM


      • mangoman1966 - May 13, 2014 at 10:57 PM

        No.Sherpa gave him a lot of fire power last year. As for fleury hes a mystery to all of us pens fans. Don’t think he is mentally tough. Meant sheep not Sherpa. Tough night for us fans also lol

      • apkyletexas - May 13, 2014 at 10:59 PM

        They’ve got no leadership on the ice. They keep signing high-profile guys who want to get their own shots and points, and they’ve got no leadership and no one who can do the dirty work. It’s a deeply flawed roster, and it has been since Guerin retired.

        Shero put this roster together. It’s great for selling tickets and getting primetime TV slots, but it’s horrible in the playoffs against grittier teams. Shero has a flawed strategy, and it’s time to move on. If you are going to go with a new coach, you need a new GM involved in bringing in his guy.

      • bwayblueshirt - May 13, 2014 at 11:03 PM

        After watching you crash and burn last year, I felt that it was ultimately because instead of grabbing a guy to compliment what you had, you over-saturated your offense with big-name forwards, and wound up with a great fantasy roster, but zero chemistry in the bottom 9. Shero chose well in who to retain.

    • 7mantel - May 13, 2014 at 10:56 PM

      Last year after Shero’s every move Pen’s were calling him a genius and saying the cup was theirs ! Now they want his head !

      • broadstreetsbaddest88 - May 14, 2014 at 3:06 AM

        It’s the typical pens fans thinkin they got the best of the best all the time. Shero is not a good GM an cashed the entire farm team to fall flat on their faces. They have no big scoring forwards coming up an a couple defensemen they swear are the missing piece but have yet to show that. Shero is just as fault for this disaster as Bylsma. They both should roll and Mario grow a pair an put aggressive coach an GM in there. He’s too scared to fire anyone an hurt their feelings. The pens have been exposed an now you pens fans can realize you don’t have a good coach or GM an you never had. Shero inherited most this team or picks. Anyone can build a decent team with the top 3 pick like 5 years in a row. You now see he has done nothing but make this team decline over the years an not retool an fill certain needs. The pens play a more finesse game an are not tough at all. Playoff teams are built through grit an grinding an good leadership, none of which they have. All the crap they said about Giroux as a captain an now see why he’s way better leader then Crosby. This is what happens when ya talk sh^t an karma bites ya in the a$$…again, and again an again. Next time pens fans choose your words wisely cause it’ll always come back to bite ya

  4. gbart22 - May 13, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    C1 I don’t know who you root for but you can’t claim anything since you don’t know what would have actually happened. Grow up.

  5. jaybaileys - May 13, 2014 at 10:09 PM

    This is on 2 people in my mind Sid and Disco. Malkin was flying tonight sid barely showed any effort in the circle tonight i don’t know what i saw more him losing draws or Olli making bad decisions. Its a shame they are wasting these guys primes but thats how it goes. They weren’t good enough and the coach needs to go. 5 disappointments in a row in the playoffs just isn’t gonna cut it with that firepower.

    • kaptaanamerica - May 14, 2014 at 5:19 AM

      This is on the coach and GM…

      Shero made some bullshiite offers for Kesler and now the Pens are out of playoffs. Imagine what a heart and soul kind of player like Kesler could have done for the Pens. The guy plays like a beast.

      Maybe these idiots will address the gaping hole they have in heart on the team and make a real offer for Kesler in the summer. It’ll help the Pens in the east and help return the Canucks back to the top of the West.

      • gnashty - May 14, 2014 at 10:17 AM

        If they played Ryan at wing with Crosby I can see that working out well. The Pens like the Flyers do not need any more centers.

  6. gbart22 - May 13, 2014 at 10:10 PM

    Word to penguin fans be careful what you wish for with the changes or you could end up like Washington and Vancouver.

    • c9castine - May 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM

      we gave it much more time than they did.

      • thesportsjudge - May 14, 2014 at 12:58 AM

        Is it after game 7 yet? Wasn’t that your comment? Hiding out on this post?

        Just in case you have short term memory loss, here is both our posts:

        thesportsjudge – May 12, 2014 at 11:21 PM

        Funny how you come out to comment on this game, but where were your comments on game 6 in your series?




        Reply Report comment

        c9castine – May 13, 2014 at 12:29 AM

        who cares about game 6. game 6 won nobody anything.

        ive been consistent throughout this postseason that the only games that mean anything are the ones that win or lose a series.

        lets talk after game 7. win or lose ill field every comment you can throw at me.

        crickets? crickets in your head.



        Interesting the TU/TD also.

      • c9castine - May 14, 2014 at 12:52 PM

        yeah what are you trying to say.

        dont be ignorant. go into the “penguins eliminated” article where i layed all my views and opinions out for everybody to read and addressed pretty much every issue thats worth addressing with the team last night not long after the loss.

        you can dislike my opinions if you want but i have way more sack than some of you. i did exactly what i said id do all along.

      • laxman1944 - May 14, 2014 at 8:56 AM

        LOL…..up 3 to 1

        Typical Pitt playoff performance


      • c9castine - May 14, 2014 at 12:48 PM

        yes. i agree.

        am i supposed to be upset about that comment?

        boston still has a game to win there buddy. seems like a 50/50 chance to me. if it goes the wrong way, they are absolutely no different than the pens. unless of course the expectations are lower in boston.

      • c9castine - May 14, 2014 at 11:15 PM

        LOL… CHOKE typical boston performance

        regular season champs, playoff chokers.

  7. lowenni - May 13, 2014 at 10:11 PM

    Crosby and Malkin are enough to carry this team to a consistent top-3 seed, not enough to carry them to the Cup, simple as that in my opinion. Neal is overrated.

    Rangers meanwhile look great and Lundqvist is the best goalie in the world again IMO (maybe Price or Rask). Would not be surprised to see them in the Final or taking Bruins/Habs to seven games…Vigneault deserves a ton of credit for absolutely tremendous coaching.

    • courtjester1234 - May 14, 2014 at 6:18 AM

      Well hats because Crosby Sucks Maulkin Blows and Neal Swallows. It’s true.i have seen jerseys saying so. Who knows maybe the commish will find some way to get back into the playoffs through the losers bracket.

  8. broadstreetbeatdown - May 13, 2014 at 10:12 PM

    Is she crying in that pic?

  9. whiskytango333 - May 13, 2014 at 10:12 PM


    • dagrit5 - May 14, 2014 at 12:55 AM


  10. Tex - May 13, 2014 at 10:13 PM

    Those poor NBC announcers must be beside themselves

    • einjzmolf - May 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM

      The butthurt was strong with the announcements as they began to realize. Doc was even trying to get the puck to go in with 2.3 seconds left, when it was completely behind the net lol

      • Tex - May 13, 2014 at 10:24 PM

        Heh. I can’t wait to get home and watch the recording of the game. I shall savour their misery.

  11. broadstreetsbaddest88 - May 13, 2014 at 10:14 PM

    Hahaha oh this is so great. That picture is classic. Can’t wait to hear what these pens fans are gonna say now. All that sh^t talkin an now your golfing like the rest. Most underachieving team an Bylsma sucks. What excuse are we gonna here tonight. Crosbys one of the worst captains in the league. Everyone called this except the delusional pens fans

    • jaybaileys - May 13, 2014 at 10:31 PM

      i was one of the first commenters and think i said what most people here think they were let down big by their Capt. and the coach just wasn’t good enough. Henrik was pretty unreal the last 3 games though, this one especially. I think Sid definitely needs to take as much if not more than the coach though, He was horrible in the circle and barely fought through any checks. Showed bursts maybe twice the whole game and got caught in deep on the first goal. Glad you are enjoying in their misery though lol, Im kind of over it already, didn’t see them doing anything in the next round anyway. Looking forward to next year though and seeing who moves on the rest of this year, these are some of the best series top to bottom i can remember all of them going at least 6 games, no blowouts this round.

  12. rpiotr01 - May 13, 2014 at 10:16 PM

    I don’t think Crosby’s play was actually poor. He was around the puck, he was creating, but there was just something off about his mentality. He wasn’t focused on doing what he could to win, he seemed to focus on small picture stuff – winning/starting a scrum, not being pushed around, beating the D-man. Say what you want about Nash’s goal drought, the guy shut it, put his head down and did everything else in his power to help the team win with clean hits, really good defense, back checking, etc. Crosby just seemed to react poorly to every bit of adversity. Your team is up 3-1 – why engage in ANY nonsense after the whistle? Keep it shut, play smart and you win the series. Instead he played right into NYR’s hands.

    I’m not complaining, I’m psyched we won this series but it’s amazing how you can look back and see the little things that allow the unlikely to actually happen.

    • bwayblueshirt - May 13, 2014 at 10:36 PM

      Crosby was a petulant child, and should be stripped of his captaincy, quite frankly. All the spearing and holding the stick, and talking shyt while hiding behind the refs is pretty disgraceful. If you guys had had a captain with some salt, some experience, you might have been able to right the ship.

      • mikedoc315 - May 13, 2014 at 11:33 PM

        I think part of the problem with the penquins getting eliminated the last few years falls right on the shoulders of Sidney Crosby. He has allowed other teams to get him completely off his game,he gets sucked in to the verbal jabs that go on and allows himself to look merely mortal instead of one of the best hockey players in the game. Thanks Sidney I love to watch you lose

      • thesportsjudge - May 14, 2014 at 1:01 AM

        Part of the problem was Crosby was handed the captaincy based on future offensive production at (obviously) far too young an age. He didn’t earn it.

    • jaybaileys - May 13, 2014 at 10:41 PM

      i think sids play was horrible especially tonight, terrible at the dot, got caught in deep on the Rangers 4 on 2 break on the 1st goal and did next to nothing but draw the only penalty, other than that he was not fighting through checks generating anything offensively and just bad. if he had any of Malkins fire the Pens would be moving on.

  13. broadstreetbeatdown - May 13, 2014 at 10:17 PM

    The best is the pathetic fans in Pitt. you could hear a mouse fart as quiet as that building was.

  14. c1md6 - May 13, 2014 at 10:19 PM

    Hahahahah don’t worry, you won’t see many comments cause like they’re fanbase not going to games and causing the team to declare bankruptcy they’ll disappear again, fraud fans. And like I said broadstreet is the future of this division, just give us out staring goalie and we dismantle the lowly rangers and the queens in less games.

    • flyerspsu - May 13, 2014 at 11:16 PM

      Mason or not the flyers got outplayed in that series and deserved to lose

    • footballfan - May 14, 2014 at 8:42 AM

      Oh if we had this and oh if we had that. You lost in the first round. Go home now….

    • doknyc - May 14, 2014 at 9:36 AM

      glad to see fraudstreet holding tee times for the pens…

  15. idonthavethebloodyoucrave - May 13, 2014 at 10:20 PM

    There’s a lot of blame to go around. Fleury with his soft goals and inconsistency, too many team turnovers, Crosby not leading by example, list could go on for awhile. However, this kinda underachievement with that talent packed will roster should result in a new coach.

    In fairness, it was probably a cup or nothing season for Bylsma.

    Goodbye, Coach Bylsma.

    Has anyone seen James Neal?


    • Tex - May 13, 2014 at 10:22 PM

      “Has anyone seen James Neal?”

      He’s looking for someone to knee in the dressing room

      • bwayblueshirt - May 13, 2014 at 10:37 PM

        More like the DEPRESSING Room! Amiright!!!

      • jaybaileys - May 13, 2014 at 10:38 PM

        Neal was pretty awful this post season too, thats for sure, its one thing not to score but to to take dumb penalty after dumb penalty is just insane. Another reason Bylsma will probably get canned, unless you are young i.e. Bennett you don’t get scratched for making dumb penalties or decisions.

    • thesportsjudge - May 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM

      Neal thought he won the Cup after he kneed Marchand in the head.

  16. crazemastercraze - May 13, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    Crash and burn

  17. southhillspensfan - May 13, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    Not one fan should have cheered for this team at the end. Deserved and will continue to deserve nothing but scorn. The days of lemieux seem like a distant past where captains were captains. Not whatever crosby is. Bylsma is a puppet and for the love of god someone get rid of scuderi, dont care how. Fans deserve so much more than this slop. Second most expensive ticket in the game is this is what im stuck watching. Maybe Mario will intervene and save us again. Our only hope.

  18. President Charles Logan - May 13, 2014 at 10:22 PM

    i was wrong .. oh well ….

  19. jrs45 - May 13, 2014 at 10:23 PM

    Hide in your little hole Pitt fans bahahahaha!

  20. arbruins - May 13, 2014 at 10:25 PM

    Hahahaha….like I said, “Bridesmaids, never a bride”.

    • jaybaileys - May 13, 2014 at 10:35 PM

      So bridesmaids have cup rings i guess? Last time i checked Chara has the same number of cups as Crosby

      • gallyhatch - May 14, 2014 at 7:32 AM

        Crosby doesn’t have as many cups as Shawn Thornton though.

        Just some food for thought.

  21. stakex - May 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM

    The Penguins stars didn’t perform when they needed to… its really that simple. On top of that, Fleury continued to allow soft goals with alarming regularity. He might not have had the big melt down of the past few seasons, but a lot of the Ranger goals (and Columbus’s in fact) in this series would be considered soft. Can’t have that every series in the playoffs if you are going to go deep.

    I would be shocked if the Pens don’t have a new coach behind the bench, and a new goalie in net to start next season.

    • jaybaileys - May 13, 2014 at 10:34 PM

      I think Fleury was pretty good the whole playoffs, he is not why they lost. The other goalie only let up 3 goals the last 3 games, he was better and the reason the Rangers won. Crosby was pathetic and will have to reconcile that this offseason and pretty much got his coach fired. 1 goal the entire playoffs was just ridiculous, hw was a major disappointment for me.

      • stakex - May 13, 2014 at 11:40 PM

        Fleury really wasn’t that good though. In the last four games of this series he had a S% of less than .900. Again, it might seem like he played pretty good because he didn’t completely collapse…. but he allowed far too many soft goals. The Pens will never win a Cup with that kind of play from their goaltender.

        In those last four games these are the soft goals he allowed:

        1. A weak backhander by Zuccarello in game four. The Pens won the game so no one really cared, but that goal made it 3-2 late and gave the Rangers a bit of life when they had none.

        2. Soft wide angle goal to Kreider to start game five. Not only was it a weak goal, but Fleury kicked a juicy rebound right to Kreider to being with. This goal is the one that started the Rangers come back, and with a better goalie in net would never have happened.

        3. Wide open slap shot from Ryan McDonagh that made game five 4-1. Another run of the mill save that Fleury simply wiffed on. That goal was big because it put the game out of reach for the Pens in the middle of the 2nd period.

        4. Incredibly weak backhand goal to Hagelin in game six. Another huge goal because it gave the Rangers a 2-0 lead early and allowed them to coast. Again, a good goalie makes that save and keeps his team from going down two (hell, a terrible goalie should have made this save).

        5. Brassard’s 3-1 goal in game six, which re-established the Rangers two goal lead after a push back from the Pens, was scored because Fleury misplayed the puck. He made a poor decision to lunge for the puck instead of simply taking the angle away from Brassard who could never have scored from where he was if Fleury simply stayed in the net.

        I didn’t include the Boyle goal tonight since that was a breakaway, but Fleury did leave a hole big enough to drive a truck through between his pads…. so its suspect. Still though, five questionable/soft goals in four strait playoff games is NOT “playing pretty good”. Lets also remember that Fleury is the sole reason the Columbus series was more dramatic than it needed to be. Yes, there are other players on the Pens that deserve a lot of blame, but in this day and age a team isn’t going to win a Cup when their goalie is giving up questionable goals almost every game. Its not going to happen, no matter how well he played between those goals.

    • mangoman1966 - May 13, 2014 at 11:06 PM

      They will have a new coach. That’s a fact. A fresh goalie would be nice. Fleury always made me nervous with a one goal lead late in the game. There will be on ice changes. Sid really did a choke job the entire playoffs. Maybe he has reached his peak in pittsbugh

  22. salmon90 - May 13, 2014 at 10:32 PM

    Shero should have bucked up for Kesler instead of trying to steal him with Sutter and some dog food.

    • prnst1023 - May 13, 2014 at 10:39 PM

      Wouldn’t of helped with the crappy coach we had directing us. Bring on Tortorella.

      • salmon90 - May 13, 2014 at 10:48 PM

        Bylsma will take the blame and the fall but he was not out-coached as many will claim. That being said maybe it’s time for a change. It’s like AV leaving Vancouver – he was canned in the hopes that a change would somehow spark the line-up…results showed that didn’t really work.

  23. ironyisadeadscene - May 13, 2014 at 10:41 PM


  24. c9castine - May 13, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    A lot of people are just acting like downright idiots in here. cindy this and blah blah blah. its stupid. its immature, and it means absolutely nothing. there is no insight in those comments.

    my problem has been all along that VERY few people can simply say what they see without spewing out pure spite and nonsensical garbage.

    i said id be here win or lose and i am. first things first. know that i NEVER ONCE predicted the pens to win anything – not a game, not a series, not the cup. but if you fockers thought i was going to throw anybody from my team under the bus at any point to a fan of another team, you just dont know me. will never happen. season is over, so ill dish it like i see it.

    1. dan bylsma needs to go. contrary to what crap some people say, hes a great coach. but something isnt working. his message is not getting across. they have been talking about playing one way for the last couple years but you hardly ever see it. saw it for about 3 or 4 games this post season. the rest of the time, you see hot dogging, garbage passing, loose nuetral zone play, bad coverage in the d -zone (its amazing we dont give up more goals than we do.), and wasted oppurtunities in the offensive zone. he can and will be successful in the future it just cant be with the penguins anymore. he, like the organization, is going to need to do his own evaluation of himself and figure out how to go forward. but it can not be here anymore.

    2. i dont care who crosby is. best player in the world or not, when you make 12 million dollars you need to be effective at the most important times. its why your here. you are not here to win regular season scoring titles as nifty as those might be. im not sure what happened here. i think a lot of it has to do with the way the organization being in his head about “long term health”. im willing to bet he was advised and coached to adjust his game so he doesnt enter the high traffic area that he used to. he used to be an incredible grinder, making plays in the toughest areas and taking the puck to the net. hes basically a perimeter player right now. he is never hungry going to the net anymore. he had that one season where he won the goal scoring title and then came out hard again the next year before being concussed. hes not playing the same type of game he used to.

    3. malkin is a non issue. thats good news.

    4. neal is worthless. even if he scores 40 goals again, he isnt a very good “hockey player”. he makes terrible decisions with the puck. he misses the net on most of his shots these days. he takes stupid penalty after stupid penalty after stupid penalty no matter how many times hes told to stop. hes a detriment to the organization. find a way to get him out of here.

    5. brandon sutter emerged as a much more threatening offensive threat than he has been in the past. if he can carry a 3rd line like that consistently hes going to be a stud. also, jokinen, stempniak, and goc are all keepers. i liked what i saw there.

    6. dan bylsma started undrafted 5 foot nothing brian gibbons on sids right wing for a game 7. and sat beau bennett a 1st round draft pick with a ridiculous amount of skill. thats says a lot right there. gibbons has a future on this team/in this league as a 3rd line winger, but come on. was he smoking meth? terrible decision on one of the most important coaching days of his life.

    7. not convinced marc andre fluery can win another cup. he didnt fold like he did last year and the year before. he had some really solid games. but he cant play the kind of goaltending necessary game in and game out to win. maybe im wrong, but ive seen enough to gamble on that decision.

    8. GM ray shero needs to answer some questions. like why we keep drafting all these top end defenseman and then go sign rob f’in scuderi to a 4 year almost 4 mil contract. he must have been smoking meth with dan. im not sure he needs to be fired, but he needs to account for a long list of bad decisions, and bad drafting. hes a master trader…but thats just simply not enough. the trade luck ran out…hes getting good return but they arent having the effect guys like Gary Roberts, Billy Guerin and Chris Kunitz had.

    9. im sure i missed some things but ill try to wrap it up. in the big picture, pens still do better than most clubs but thats clearly not good enough and not good enough for them with their skill and experience. im perfectly willing to accept a mediocre 8th seed, bounced in the first round type of season in order to revamp things. we need a new coach with a new philosophy and to create a new culture. enough of this country club crap. we won in 2009 on hard work and on the identity that we were a tough team to play against. nobody fears the Pens anymore. it started when we adopted a “no enforcer” policy. and just got softer and softer from there.

    • c9castine - May 13, 2014 at 10:45 PM

      and no, im not gonna sit here and back and forth with people. im gonna go get my johnson wet. its the only way to cope with a loss such as this.

      good luck to those still in it. try not to act too stupid.

    • silvercrush33 - May 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM

      ever been so mad you wrote a 2,000 word essay on a message board?

    • whammy71 - May 13, 2014 at 11:23 PM

      You’re a joke… defended One Plan Dan this afternoon like you were his Mom…..and now #1, you say he has to go. Flip flop much?

      • c9castine - May 13, 2014 at 11:34 PM

        maybe you didnt read the part where i said ill never throw somebody from my team under the bus.

        besides, the game at that point hadn’t been played had it? if we won that game, this whole page doesnt happen.

        but we didnt. and thats an event that will solidify an opinion.

        has nothing to do with flip flopping man. ive seen some trends for a while now and some qualities on this team that i havent really liked for a while but wasnt ready to say “burn it” until now. definitely not gonna talk to you idiots. you have to give chances but in all things in life, women, business, sex…you gotta learn when to pull the trigger on something. and now is the time – to make changes. ive seen enough to know those things that i said.

        ive done a lot more to analyze a team and have useful things to say here than you ever have. sand you have no reason to be a dik about it.

      • laxman1944 - May 14, 2014 at 9:15 AM

        No….you’re the joke whammy lol……..go back to the basement.

      • pepper2011 - May 14, 2014 at 9:51 AM

        Whammy and C9 – my two favorites at each other throats. Beautiful.

        just to clarify – you are both full of it.

        If the B’s win tonight; it would Cap off a perfect 24+ hours of hockey.

        This is the 3rd team the Bruins have appeared to break (Van, Tor, Pitt)


      • gallyhatch - May 14, 2014 at 10:11 AM

        “ive done a lot more to analyze a team and have useful things to say here than you ever have. sand you have no reason to be a dik about it.”


        Statements like “Chara’s a kunt” and claiming that headshots are a part of hockey are not useful things. They are juvenile moronic takes from someone who doesn’t know what he’s watching.

        Get over yourself; you’re another Pittsburgh homer who doesn’t know half as much about hockey as he thinks.

        PS, I LOVE how you use the pronoun ‘WE’ when referring to the team you support. As if you do more than sit, and watch, and offer worthless opinions completely lacking any semblance of objectivity. It really speaks to your lack of perspective and maturity when you use the term WE, and is extremely indicative of your intelligence level. Please, keep it up.

      • whammy71 - May 14, 2014 at 10:14 AM

        Sorry Pepper – Bs didn’t break the Pens….the Cryers did the year before.

    • sabatimus - May 14, 2014 at 12:28 AM


      • broadstreetsbaddest88 - May 14, 2014 at 3:29 AM

        I love it how c9 calling out people for talkin trash when you are one if the biggest crybaby trash talkers on this site. It’s your turn to get it back an take it like a man an stop being a little girl like your captain. All season long you ran your mouth on how Crosbys the better captain an Bylsma the best coach an shero the best GM an always somehow tryin to baxk it up with meaningless stats. Well today’s your reckoning day. Hopefully you’ll now learn your team an organization is trash an underachievers. Maybe you’ll learn your lesson to shut your mouth an wait til the playoffs to talk trash when your team accomplishes something. Till then make sure you read every hateful comment on here that you so rightfully deserve an cry in your bed clinching your Sidney Crosby stuffed doll under your penguins bed sheets. When it rains it pours my friend

    • kaptaanamerica - May 14, 2014 at 5:57 AM

      So why didn’t you hold Shero to account for not pulling the trigger with a real offer for Kesler instead of the low ball bullshiite he pulled at the deadline. if he pulls the trigger and gives up real assets for Kes, you aren’t in this situation.

      The lack of push and heart you saw from Crosby is the exact opposite of what you get from Kesler when all the chips are on the line.

      • c9castine - May 14, 2014 at 12:46 PM

        getting keslar would not have changed anything on this team.

    • joey4id - May 14, 2014 at 8:15 AM

      Firstly, to throw anyone under the bus you’d have to be Lemieux or Shero.
      1) Bylsma needs to go
      2) Crosby didn’t step up in the playoffs
      3) Neal is worthless
      4) Bad player selection by Bylsma
      5) Not convinced MAF can win another cup
      6) Bad draft choices and FA signings by Shero

      You’re blaming players and management, and you’re ready to sacrifice someone.

      • c9castine - May 14, 2014 at 12:46 PM

        im not sure what your saying other than repeating what i said.

  25. timmyp716 - May 13, 2014 at 10:44 PM


  26. muckleflugga - May 13, 2014 at 10:52 PM


    great post, feeling your hurt … don’t stay away too long, your sanity is welcome respite

    nothing to hang your head about in here, i’ve enjoyed your commentary immensely

    • pepper2011 - May 14, 2014 at 9:53 AM

  27. justinpecora50 - May 13, 2014 at 11:07 PM

    This is just a tremendous win. The RANGERS and their fans should be proud. I had my doubts after the first few weeks of the season, but AV didn’t panic he said it would take time for his system to kick in and when it did this was a very different team than what we were used to seeing. Hank was his usual rock. Now they are one of only 4 that can win the Cup. Here’s to more excitement!!

  28. ducksk - May 13, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    The games, series are ebbs and flows. Pens lost the mo and couldn’t win 1 of three. Rangers smelled blood and I give them credit. Hank was really good. Sid looks tired and burnt out. It was a dam good series to watch. Remember, the game is like a German chick, one minute she loves you and the next she don’t.

    • sabatimus - May 14, 2014 at 12:27 AM

      Nice stereotyping.

      • drewzducks - May 14, 2014 at 1:54 AM

        Be kind, his mom was Eva Braun.

  29. cityofchampions27 - May 14, 2014 at 12:02 AM

    Agreed on a number of levels with a lot of you. But here are the common denominators of the last few Cup teams.

    Top Goaltender that can win when u don’t score 4+ goals every game and can steal series. (Cro, Quick, Thomas, Fleury pre2010)

    Solid captain (toews, zetterberg, bergy yes he is an A but not a guy like Sid. Be a guy your teammates can look at and respect ur heart not just ur skill. (Crosby game 2). If you’re the Best player in world — act like it. Tired of seeing ur face when ur chirp at the officials. I’d rather Malkin wore it. He had a very solid playoffs.

    Role players. Pitt needs a better stable of role guys in their bottom 6. (Think talbot, Kennedy, dupuis, guerin.). They’re too Top Heavy. Gotta blow up that ship if they want to lift the cup again.

  30. sabatimus - May 14, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    No matter what happens from here on out, this is karma for graymalkin’s utterly classless “bostonweak” hashtag.

  31. sabatimus - May 14, 2014 at 12:30 AM

    And, like clockwork, pitpenguinsrulez is nowhere to be found.

  32. sabatimus - May 14, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    I take solace in this: if the Habs beat the Bruins tomorrow, I’ll be rooting for St Louis and the Rangers.

  33. pwshrugged - May 14, 2014 at 12:40 AM

    The real issue with the Penguins here is simply that there aren’t any easy solutions to their problems.

    At least for the next four years, they’ll have four guys (Crosby, Malkin, Neal, Letang) counting for approximately $30M of their cap. That’s roughly what, about 40% next season? I know the cap goes up every year right now, but the Penguins are a very top-heavy team. This makes them a formidable regular season team, when depth is less important, but seems to be a recipe for disaster in the playoffs when they’re playing teams with long benches. There’s no solution to the cap problem – trading either Crosby or Malkin isn’t likely to happen, and no one would take Letang at that salary anymore, I don’t think. Neal’s $5M is actually not a bad deal, though. At any rate, as a result, the idea is that a leader steps up in that “core” – but as many other critics here have pointed out, that’s debatable. They need a guy like Guerin again, who can step in and pull everyone together. The gravity of his absence was an astute point above. But being too top-heavy can make it impossible to sign quality free agents, instead leaving a team with a rotating door of bench players constituting the 3rd/4th lines. Sometimes that works out, sometimes not. As observed in the initial article, Fleury actually had a good series and is a free agent after next season, besides, so let’s not debate the Flower’s sporadic play here; he wasn’t the reason they lost to the Rangers.

    If you want to blame Bylsma, that’s reasonable. His major success was the 2009 Cup, which he won with a team built prior to his arrival. I don’t think anyone will argue that the 2009 Pens team was superior to their more recent rosters. It’s possible that Bylsma has been exposed a bit these past couple years, not just because of the Penguins’ woes, but because of the embarrassing USA collapse in Sochi. I think he’s an above-average coach, personally, but not so much so as to be a master manipulator. No one is mistaking him for Quenneville, Babcock, or Julien, obviously. However, I don’t see a clear upgrade at head coach on the market right now. Unless they have internal candidates or a hot AHL coach to look at, I don’t see the Pens firing Bylsma to go after one of the recently deposed coaches like Trotz or Torts. Although Torts in Pittsburgh would be pretty stellar entertainment.

    As for Shero, I can lean more against him than anyone else here. He constructed an extremely flawed roster here and in doing so might have literally taken years off of Pittsburgh’s championship window. Not that the future is totally bleak, but let’s face it – Crosby’s and Malkin’s prime years are going to waste because there’s no depth behind them. One of my best pals is a Penguins fan, and I told him when they signed Letang that it was a bad omen – too top-heavy. That’s on the GM. However, I don’t see Shero getting the boot unless Bylsma does, as well.

    Guess we’ll see.

  34. the8man - May 14, 2014 at 6:45 AM

    Uh, lets give the Rangers some credit it. It’s the Stanley Cup playoffs and the teams left are pretty good. And when it comes down to one game and you are facing King Henry in goal, your chances are dim.

    No shame in losing the series to NY, they are a good hockey team. Now being up 3-1, you could say you missed an opportunity.

  35. spitfisher - May 14, 2014 at 7:33 AM

    BREAKING NEWS. The NHL has announced that the Kimberly Clark Corporation has announced the free distribution of it’s famous Kleenex branded facial tissues to the Pittsburg PA area and surround suburbs

  36. montrealbbr - May 14, 2014 at 8:01 AM

    Pittsburgh is terrible! How do you lose to the Rangers? Crosby is overrated and may be great in the regular season but is terrible when it really matters.

    Well thanks Pittsburgh because after the Habs crush the Bruins tonight the path to the Cup will be even easier than I thought! HAHA

    • joey4id - May 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM

      ferme ta gueule.

  37. wishingtonredslur - May 14, 2014 at 8:03 AM

    You know, y’all are making a lot of demands for a team that was just about bankrupt when the economy was good and has a jersey so insanely ugly that no one outside of Sydney Crosby’ mom and a person from Pittsburgh would buy it or wear it. Seriously how you couldn’t do with black, white and yellow what the bruins and the steelers did is beyond comprehension. In conclusion: stupid penguin.

  38. laxman1944 - May 14, 2014 at 9:21 AM

    Toilet……….Toilet……Where are you??

    Bobpine……….Bobpine………where are you???

    Whammy……..Whammy……….where are you????

    • whammy71 - May 14, 2014 at 10:21 AM

      I’ve been here – no need to call me out.

      I’ve said all along that this team is flawed. Even made a post right when the season started and talked about how the Pens window is closing and Sid and Geno are wasting their prime years. I was laughed at then….looks pretty spot on now.

      I even picked apart Sid in a post a few weeks ago. You must have missed it.

      But I still root for my team and only troll Filthy and Boston fans….cause their fan base is filled with Dbags.

      Notice I didn’t say one bad thing about the CBJs and Rags this year….and didn’t say one bad thing about NYI and Sens last year.

      So you sir….can suck it!

  39. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - May 14, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    All references to Crosby being the best in the league should come with an asterisk.

    Sidney Crosby, the best player in the NHL*

    *regular season only

  40. phillyphannnn83 - May 14, 2014 at 12:44 PM

    Biggest playoff choke artists in NHL history. Congratulations, you deserve it.

  41. ducksk - May 14, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Bingo whammy! A lot B’s fans and filthy fans are dbags. Sid looked tired and burnt out. Perhaps a cup and the C, and the C’s for Canada and all the pressure finally catching up.

Top 10 NHL Player Searches
  1. P. Kane (2124)
  2. P. Kessel (1537)
  3. M. Richards (1363)
  4. N. Backstrom (1251)
  5. M. Giordano (1145)