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Report: Crosby, Lundqvist avoid fines for Game 6 antics

May 12, 2014, 12:08 PM EDT

Pittsburgh captain Sidney Crosby and Rangers goalie Henrik Lundqvist have both avoided fines for their actions during a second-period skirmish during Sunday’s Game 6, per Sportsnet.

Here’s the incident in question:

Crosby’s “spear” on Dominic Moore was a hot topic for debate last night, partly because spearing has been one of the most consistent themes throughout this postseason, beginning with Milan Lucic’s on Danny DeKeyser (which resulted in a $5,000 fine) and continuing with Ryan Garbutt’s on Corey Perry (which cost Garbutt $1,474.36).

Lundqvist squirting Crosby with his the water bottle also received plenty of attention, especially in the aftermath of Boston’s Shawn Thornton getting fined $2,230.52 for spraying Montreal’s P.K. Subban in the waning moments of the Bruins’ Game 5 win. Thorton was dinged under the “unsportsmanlike conduct” umbrella and later admitted he “got caught up in the moment,” while Lundqvist took a more, how you say, quizzical approach.

“I always squirt it when I go off the ice,” Lundqvist told reporters, per Sportsnet. “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

  1. hockey412 - May 12, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Awesome quote by Lundqvist.

    No party in this was innocent. Not Moore for his hold and then cross-check, not Crosby (certainly), not Kunitz (certainly), not Hank. But none of it, outside of Kunitz, was anything worth getting in a tizy over. As a Pens fan, Crosby needed a hose turned on him. And if I’m Crosby dealing with Moore in that circumstance I’d have had a tough time not doing it too.

    • jayt123123 - May 13, 2014 at 11:59 AM

      Did you NOT see Crosby’s Slew Foot on Girardi during the same game? So basically you are saying that SLEW FOOTING opponents is A OK. IDIOT!

      • hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 12:06 PM

        No, I did NOT see Crosby SLEW FOOT GIRARDI! DID YOU SEE THE CROSSCHECK TO THE BACK OF CROSBY’S SKULL BY STAAL IN GAME ONE? IS THAT OUTRAGEOUS OR WHAT? WHY ARE WE TYPING IN ALL CAPS, IDIOT?!?!?!

      • hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 12:28 PM

        Ok my friend…you have to be joking. I just went out and looked and found a gif on puckdaddy. That was NOT a slew foot. Had it not been a complete dive by girardi, it would hardly have been a trip. Watch Girardi right before it – looks back to make sure crosby’s coming, bends his knees and readies himself, then looks forward like he has no idea what’s about to……WHAMMMM! He spins around, stick hand flying WAYYYYYY up in the air (no one does this while falling, ok?) to get the refs attention. If they had called Crosby, they’d have had to take Girardi for embellishing. I didn’t even see Crosby miss a stride…he’s not 10 feet tall, bud. What a crock!

  2. mornelithe - May 12, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    There’s a surprise. League’s confusing double standard on applying discipline evenly, depending on which team or stars are involved? Check.

    • hockey412 - May 12, 2014 at 12:25 PM

      I think there’s merit to looking at who’s doing it. Fining Thornton is a no brainer. Goon, off the ice, in no way involved with the play, already disciplined once this year. Fine him to calm his Bych azz down.

      • bwayblueshirt - May 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM

        It’s about the context. Thornton squirted Subban during a play, from the bench. Hank squirted Cindy after the play, which they were both involved in. It’s like whacking a guy with your stick. Do it from the bench, in the middle of a play, and you’re gonna get nailed. Do it after the whistle… hey, it’s the playoffs.

      • mornelithe - May 12, 2014 at 12:35 PM

        Never said fining Thornton wasn’t just. Simply said, applying the rules fairly/evenly is difficult for the NHL depending on the team/stars involved.

        Pretty sure Lundqvist wasn’t involved in a play, either…since, you know, the period was over. Since, you know, he admitted that ‘He does it everytime he comes off the ice’. And while Thornton deserved more of a fine, under this precedent, Lundqvist deserved something.

        And the precedent for spearing has been set multiple times already, this post-season, so yeah, Crosby deserved something as well.

        Unfortunately, the league is going to leave it to the players to mete out justice, which is where players get hurt.

      • drewsylvania - May 12, 2014 at 3:44 PM

        /facepalm.

      • hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 8:18 AM

        Do it really hard, though.

      • 7mantel - May 12, 2014 at 5:25 PM

        Can’t be a repeat offender if your never disciplined !

    • titansbro - May 12, 2014 at 2:32 PM

      I’m a Bruins fan & even I think he deserved the fine because he did it from the bench to a guy who was actually playing. If it had been after the whistle then, well hey, that’s just gamesmanship. Lundquist’s actions are not equivalent since the play was stopped. That said, Thornton’s fine was totally worth it to see Subban get his panties all bunched up after celebrating that meaningless goal as if he had just won the Stanley Cup.

      • mornelithe - May 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM

        Follow the conversation, at no point have I stated Thornton shouldn’t have been penalized, or that Lundqvist should have the same exact fine.

        Thornton being fined for squirting water, however, does set a precedent under the ‘Unsportsmanlike’ rule, which Lundqvist violated.

    • adamdep211rukus211 - May 12, 2014 at 6:27 PM

      Mainly because it wasn’t during play. Duh!! Squirting subban while he is skating and has the puck is totally different. Hiking up your stick while the other player is holding it is totally different too. Has nothing to do with the players but the incident that happened at hand. Duh

      • mornelithe - May 13, 2014 at 6:29 PM

        By the way genius:

        “The NHL announced that he has been fined $5,000 over the incident, which occurred at the end of the second period. Lundqvist played coy when the issue was brought up later.”

        Must’ve been posted after your….response.

  3. westof1club - May 12, 2014 at 12:24 PM

    Nothing to see here. This is consistent with how we all knew the league would approach punishing “marquis” players.

    • hockey412 - May 12, 2014 at 12:26 PM

      What’d you want done, and why.

      • mornelithe - May 12, 2014 at 12:40 PM

        Lundqvist should’ve received a lesser fine than Thornton (How is that not ‘Unsportsmanlike conduct? Lundqvist drenched Crosby, where Thornton only squirted a bit of water at Subban, granted, it was during a play which is why I agree that Thornton’s should have (and was) the max allowable). And Crosby should’ve received a fine that bore some resemblance to the other players who’ve gotten dinged for spearing this post-season.

        Just because I’m a B’s fan, doesn’t mean I defend BS moves like Lucic’s spear, or Thornton screwing with the visibility of a pretty elite player, during a play (dangerous). I simply want to see the rules applied evenly across the board.

  4. snipedanglecelly13 - May 12, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Cindy you whining b1tch lol

  5. bwayblueshirt - May 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    I’m more concerned about the referees themselves. First the guy can’t get out of the way on a breakaway, and then he fouls up the call on Kreider. Don’t get me wrong, it’s no goal, but the contact was incidental after Kreids got pushed by Letang, and it was obvious. Referees keep trying to satisfy benches rather than call a game. How sad is it that I miss Kerry Fraser?

    • nebbah306 - May 12, 2014 at 3:57 PM

      I’m a fellow Rangers fan, and I think the penalty on Kreids was somewhat deserved because he turned his shoulder up almost like he was coming in for a check towards Fleury, but bottomline is it was a borderline call that shouldnt have been made.

      • bwayblueshirt - May 12, 2014 at 4:46 PM

        It looked to me like he was trying to tuck is elbow in to avoid contact, but I see your point. Either way, I think the contact by Letang absolves Kreids of responsibility.

  6. bgrillz - May 12, 2014 at 1:14 PM

    They both should have been fined. Just like Thornton and Lucic and Perry.

  7. lilgurgi - May 12, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    This is when Pens fans paint themselves into a corner. They say Thornton should be out of the league for the knockdown/punches to downed opponent he did on Orpik. However, if you watch the replay Kunitz comes over, knocks a guy down, and throws a few punches. Both incidents were after the play. The only differences (in the act, not the players involved) is that Orpik was hurt and the Rangers got into the scrum before Kunitz got more then 1-2 punches off.

    • bbgraf08 - May 12, 2014 at 1:46 PM

      Great point that hack writers like Mark Madden from Pittsburgh have completely ignored. Madden went on a tirade against Thornton, but has not said a word about Kunitz.

      • Tarsch - May 13, 2014 at 1:23 AM

        You obviously didn’t hear Madden’s rant about Crosby – he certainly was not writing for Pittsburgh – what a goon!

      • bbgraf08 - May 13, 2014 at 8:29 AM

        I am not talking about Crosby, I’m talking about Kunitz. Madden ranted and raved about Thornton for weeks and has been silent on this.

    • 7mantel - May 12, 2014 at 5:29 PM

      Watch the replay and Malkin throwing a punch at Moore while Kunitz is on top of Moore .

  8. njadvocate111 - May 12, 2014 at 1:47 PM

    Typical Pens fans playing victim, just as their fearless leaders always have. It is hilarious to see them call for the heads of Lucic, Perry and co, but when its Crosby? He’s just frustrated! Wouldn’t you be frustrated if you were him! Can’t blame him, he’s trying to play through it!

    • hockey412 - May 12, 2014 at 2:35 PM

      Who are you even talking about?

      • njadvocate111 - May 12, 2014 at 5:02 PM

        I am addressing you, or anyone else in a fan base that calls for a lifelong ban for a “goon” Shawn Thornton, but then wants special consideration to be taken for your stars. It is more or less an issue of accountability. Or what Torts said last year, that Pitt is the most arrogant franchise in the league, always pointing the finger, but then coming up with excuses for why your stars where justified in doing what they did. If you want the NHL to make calls based on the player and not the act, then it seems the NBA would be the perfect fit. Otherwise, get off your high horses and enjoy watching teams beat individuals.

      • hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 8:21 AM

        And Torts has long been the face of logic and reason within the NHL, is that what you are saying? I said in my post that clearly Crosby was in the wrong, and even said that I thought Kunitz’ actions should be looked at closer. Is that being an apologist? Is that calling for special consideration? Moore knew what he was doing, he’s been doing it all series and has been doing a great job at it. Crosby took the bait. What do you want from the league, an apology letter? His actions didn’t appear to even stun Moore, who came right back and cross-checked him, also uncalled. So I refuse to believe Crosby was going for castration there. You disagree, fine. You think the entire league is biased, but don’t acknowledge that it is you that is biased. No one’s coming up with excuses – it just happened. Not one of you idiots on here has even MENTIONED moore. Bias?

    • 7mantel - May 12, 2014 at 5:39 PM

      Hypocritical team from owner on down ,Mario threatens to leave NHL because of all the violence on the ice .Not a word when they goon it up every time they are about to lose , if the NYR’s are winning game 7, you can bet Sid and the boys will goon it up .

  9. davidmessina63 - May 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM

    It’s really about one kid squirting the other kid on the playground at recess. This whole water BS is blown out of control. It has zero impact on who wins or loses the game.

  10. matthews4 - May 12, 2014 at 2:24 PM

    Hey hockey412, Remember the “conversation” we had when I basically pointed out how Pens fans were amusing to me, because they complain about things there own organization does? Yeah we can nit pick about circumstances, but face it the ACT was the same. Kunitz = Thornton , Crosby = Lucic. Live with it.

  11. matthews4 - May 12, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    I almost forgot so what you are saying is it is the Who and not the What? So there should be different rules for different players? Crybaby should be given the benefit of the doubt, even though when ever he does not get his way in the playoffs he gets dirty with his stick. I know people don’t like Lucic, but at least he will stand and fight. Please don’t answer take your hypocrisy and move on.

  12. montrealbbr - May 12, 2014 at 3:10 PM

    What a joke! Crosby should have been fined and the same goes for Lundqvist. I used to think that Boston was the dirtiest team around but Pittsburgh is just as dirty only they get away with it because of their darling Crosby.

    • bsfan77 - May 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

      Amen bro. All the Pen fans jump all over these pages when it is the Bruins. But with Cindy it is ok.

    • ffrey3660 - May 13, 2014 at 9:32 AM

      So sick of the Cindy Crybaby sh#!. If he is the face of the NHL then he should stop acting like a little baby and just ignore all the minor egging’s he get’s, player’s know what get’s his goat and keep irritating him to keep him off his game. How to shut down #89, haze him like a 6th grader on the school yard. Cindy Crybaby face of the NHL, RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  13. drewsylvania - May 12, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    The inconsistency of the league on full display yet again.

  14. gallyhatch - May 12, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    Bruins fan here. . . .

    Crosby did not deserve a fine. Despite what every newcomer thinks, this sort of ‘extracurricular stick work’ happens all the time in the NHL and usually only gets called if it’s blatant. It’s a dirty little part of the game no one wants to admit to, but it’s very much there whether you like it or not.

    Lucic got a fine, his offense was pretty egregious, no argument here.

    Should Lundquist have been fined? Maybe, but at the same time I don’t really care. The NHL has had issues with consistency for a long time. I think head shots are a much bigger issue to address than two grownups quirting water at each other.
    I also have no argument with Thornton’s fine. As many have pointed out, it was from the bench during the course of play. He could have cost his team a penalty. I’m glad a fine is all he got, and I hope he gets his head out of his @$$.

    The best part of last night was watching Crosby skate away as if nothing happened, while his teammates jumped to his defense. Talk about a “Bych azz” move, at least Thornton will stand his ground. Crosby will wait until a referee is standing between him & an opponent before he decides to act tough. (emphasis on ‘act’)

    Where are all the Penguins fans condemning Kunitz for punching a guy while down on the ice? Where are all the Pittsburgh writers who condemned Thornton for punching a guy while down on the ice?

    The Pittsburgh hypocrisy is on full display today.

    Has C9 shown up yet? He’s surpassed 412 as my favorite Pittsburgh commenter, well him and 87 / 71, the guy who quit on the team when they were down by two goals to Columbus. That guy is great.

  15. khar9 - May 12, 2014 at 4:28 PM

    100 percent penalty

  16. mrd5c - May 12, 2014 at 4:58 PM

    The “penalty” on Kreider was the most egregious piece of bad officiating of the game. Goal or no goal, he was pushed into the goalie from behind. The call was on the push from behind. A power play can change the course of the game, and in the playoffs every goal is critical. Let the players decide the outcome of the game. Why can’t the officials huddle up and make the correct call, like in the NFL?

  17. mrd5c - May 12, 2014 at 5:00 PM

    As for the decisions regarding Crosby and Lundqvist, who cares? Hank is all class and Cindy has none. Fun to see him unravel like a rotten onion.

  18. broadstreetbeatdown - May 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM

    A spear to the jewels is a spear to the jewels. I could care less about the water squirting. If Lucic gets fined then Crosby should as well.

    Pathetic, absolutely pathetic.

    • adamdep211rukus211 - May 12, 2014 at 6:33 PM

      I think it’s waaaaay different when the other player is purposely holding the best player in the world’s stick. That’s what he gets

  19. penvik - May 12, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    Die hard Pens fan here, just can’t defend Sidney Crosby at this point. He took on the responsibility of “captain”. Live or die by the sword, it is what it is, is he showing leadership? Lack of offensive execution when it matters is becoming a regularity. And when he’s not scoring, he’s definitely not doing something resembling leadership. For every action there will be reaction, will be very interesting to see what happens in the not so distant future.

    A game 7 win won’t be enough to cover this up either. A team wide attitude adjustment is in order.

  20. 7mantel - May 12, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Bettman would not allow Crosby to be disciplined so Lundqvist got a free ride !

  21. michael91148 - May 12, 2014 at 6:04 PM

    The league office has basically said that it depends on who gets squirted with water, if there is going to be a fine. I thought all receivers of the water were supposed to be equal ? Evidently not huh ? This had been going on for decades and NO ONE has ever been injured by having water squirted on them…. but are they suggesting that PK would be more offended than Crosby. Think it through boys….. you are starting to get on a slippery slope.

    Spearing has also been going on for decades and people have been injured. ALL spears should be punished. No excuse for this ruling……… In fact it used to be a 5 minute major… dont know if it still is.

  22. sportsfan69 - May 12, 2014 at 7:08 PM

    Let’s point out the history of Sidney Crosby and the Pittsburgh Pengiuns. When is the NHL going to stop favoring the Pengiuns. Last night’s disallowed goal was just another example of the Crosby factor. The officials are biased towards Pittsbugh. Enough is enough.

  23. sportsfan69 - May 12, 2014 at 7:10 PM

  24. 7mantel - May 12, 2014 at 8:45 PM

    NHL news reporting Lundqvist fined $5000.

  25. matthewmacisaac - May 12, 2014 at 9:27 PM

    At least they’ve stopped comparing Crosby to Gretzky. Mario was comparable to the Great One, but to even mention Crosby in the same breath as Gretzky is an insult. Gretzky was the greatest to ever lace up skates & acted with class on and off the ice. Crosby gets preferential treatment from the refs & still whines for more. He may have talent, but he’s an embarrassment to the league.

  26. peepeehead - May 12, 2014 at 9:43 PM

    Henrik should apologize. Cindy probably spent hours in front of the mirror so she would look good in front of the cameras only to have Henrik squirt water on her dress. The other thing Henrik is insensitive about is Cindy is probably on her period which made her throw a hissy fit at Dominic for telling her she looked fat. Henrik should send Cindy a thoughtful Hallmark card and some flowers and I’m sure it will all blow over.

    • Tarsch - May 13, 2014 at 1:33 AM

      @ peepeehead – I read your comment, but I had to look at your name to understand such lunacy!

  27. President Charles Logan - May 12, 2014 at 11:15 PM

    The fact that there was ever a thought of a fine ot the possibility of a fine over THAT is truly pathetic. It’s truly sad how much control the powers to be in this sport are trying to wave around at the players.
    The game is based and built and played off emotion , you’re not always gonna keep that emotion in check especially come playoff time…. i really wish the soccer mommy type of government that has taken over the rules of this game would go the f8ck away already and stop eyeballing every incident that’s slightly off the mark .

  28. Tarsch - May 13, 2014 at 1:43 AM

    @ President C L ” ….stop eyeballing every incident that’s slightly off the mark….” You mean like the way most on here would never do with Sidney Crosby, because after all, he has no right to be human like the rest of us – what a bunch of hypocrites – and calling others hypocrites. It’s called jealousy, pure and simple. You rarely have anything to criticize, but boy, when you have one little thing you jump all over him – it is truly sad!!!

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