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Julien: Bruins are ‘perceived like the bad guys, and they’re the good guys’

May 12, 2014, 11:26 PM EDT

The Montreal Canadiens earned a decisive 4-0 victory over the Boston Bruins tonight, but before that could become official, things got heated between the two bitter rivals.

A major melee erupted at 19:36, which led to Boston’s Jarome Iginla and Montreal’s Mike Weaver receiving game misconducts. You can view the incident here:

At first glance, it looks like the incident escalated from Boston defenseman Zdeno Chara‘s actions, and the way the penalties were assessed (16 Bruins penalty minutes to 12 Montreal) seemed to reinforce the notion that the Bruins were the instigators.

It’s a notion, though, that Bruins coach Claude Julien took exception to.

“All I said was that we’re perceived like the bad guys, and they’re the good guys,” Julien said, per ESPN’s Mike Cole. “When Markov trips Chara and puts his stick between his legs, somebody’s going to react, whether it’s right or wrong, Zdeno reacted and then everything else happened. There was a slewfoot before, Desharnais on Marchand. It was a slewfoot. Those are things we keep talking about that are dangerous in our game.

“It’s a rivalry and there are some things going on on both sides. I’m not portraying ourselves as innocent here, I’m just saying it takes two teams to tangle and that’s what happened.”

The Canadiens certainly seemed eager to pin the blame on Boston with a jab via Twitter. The fans at Montreal’s Bell Centre got in on the action too, throwing white towels at Chara and Bruins forward Milan Lucic as they left (courtesy of The Score’s Katie Flynn):


With both team’s seasons on the line, this intensity should carry over into Game 7.

  1. cheetah440 - May 12, 2014 at 11:41 PM

    Let’s just say they represent their country appropriately.

    • cheetah440 - May 13, 2014 at 6:49 PM

      I’m shocked by last night. The fat lady sang and the Bruins still lost. Confusing to say the least.
      Oh well, beating the Canadians in game 7’s is always the sweetest.

  2. joey4id - May 12, 2014 at 11:45 PM

    If the roles were reversed the Habs would have done the same. No story here. Boys being boys. Move on.

    • imleftcoast - May 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM

      As Jason Botchford said this morning, “Julien says exactly the opposite of what he’s thinking. There are some heels on the Canadiens, but the Bruins are a team of heels.”

  3. patsfan99 - May 12, 2014 at 11:46 PM

    Classic Montreal. Markov with the trip and spear on Chara, then no one other than Weaver for Montreal will step up for their scummy actions. After it all though, they outplayed the Bruins, and once again the B’s shot themselves in the foot with the Miller turnover, it swung the momentum in Montreal’s favor

    • claudegirwho - May 12, 2014 at 11:58 PM

      Typical bruin thuggery

      • bruinsin7 - May 13, 2014 at 12:04 AM

        you were probably one of the people to throw a beer and towel at the players like a real tough guy

      • claudegirwho - May 13, 2014 at 12:53 AM

        You were probably the one making racist tweets

      • bruinsin7 - May 13, 2014 at 1:20 AM

        seeing how I am an African American, no I wasn’t. Nice try though

      • 7mantel - May 13, 2014 at 8:16 AM

        As one of your fellow pens fan wrote ,pens have the most suspensions ,so I guess your team is full of gutless pukes !

    • charlie24zz - May 13, 2014 at 12:26 AM

      Who cares about the towel. Lucic deserved it, he’s scum

      • imleftcoast - May 13, 2014 at 1:12 PM

        Flexing his muscle (not his brain obviously) on the bench in Game 5 was just bush league.

  4. charlieconway96 - May 12, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    Another day, another guy getting speared in the spear. Nothing to see here.

  5. muckleflugga - May 12, 2014 at 11:53 PM

    maybe it’s time to put the ‘nothing here move on’ reference to bed

    all a bit yesterday, wot

  6. Wineshard - May 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM

    At least nobody sprayed water on each other.

    • 19to77 - May 13, 2014 at 2:05 AM

      Thank God. Someone might have gotten hurt!

  7. tdrusher225 - May 12, 2014 at 11:55 PM

    Time to focus on hockey. One more game left to decide this series and then, hopefully, we don’t have to hear another word of this garbage. This kind of stuff just takes away from the game and it’s one of the downsides to a rivalry this intense. These teams, fanbases, and organizations genuinely do hate each other and all this whining and crying from both sides is getting annoying.

  8. hairpie2 - May 13, 2014 at 12:02 AM

    Canadiens are definitely like the kid in school that would verbally abuse you then when confronted hide behind his big brother. Either way, best revenge it to win game 7.

    • sweeneyrg - May 13, 2014 at 11:09 AM

      Sounds like a perfect description of Marchand chirping and hiding behind Chara.

  9. tmjm621 - May 13, 2014 at 12:09 AM

    They are the bad guys. Theyre the biggest assholes in the league. Its too bad iggy had to stoop down to their level.

  10. drewzducks - May 13, 2014 at 12:21 AM

    Claude, how about shutting your yap and getting your “angels'” heads out of their collective asses or you’re gonna have to invest in that 50 SPF for your chrome dome a lot earlier than you had anticipated.

  11. charlie24zz - May 13, 2014 at 12:21 AM

    This is rich

  12. mrpinkca - May 13, 2014 at 12:51 AM

    I mean how can you not root for these guys. Lucic has gone like 5-6 days without spearing anybody!

  13. c9castine - May 13, 2014 at 12:58 AM

    this is great.

  14. homegrowntalentmn - May 13, 2014 at 1:48 AM

    This is good for hockey!

  15. hockeyflow33 - May 13, 2014 at 2:08 AM

    The Canadiens just play an embarrassing style of hockey. How do you allow someone to just punch you in the face and not react? Gutless

    Then Markov getting punched and acting like he was hit by a bazooka.

    Just an absolute embarrassment to hockey.

    • charlie24zz - May 13, 2014 at 3:09 AM

      You Boston fans are so fixated on cheapshots and needless acts of aggression on behalf of the bruins players that you’re overlooking the beauty of hockey…even your coach is in denial, just be quiet please.

    • hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 8:06 AM

      It’s called discipline. They won 4-0. That’s why you don’t react. A gutless brand of hockey is punching someone in the face or back of the head after each and every whistle, looking for a reaction and penalty. REAL tough. Puhlease.

      • titansbro - May 13, 2014 at 8:20 AM

        montreal does that too. in fact, pretty much every team does that kind of stuff from time to time.

      • hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 8:25 AM

        Teams get in scrums. That’s not what I’m talking about. It’s part of Boston’s game plan…that’s different. It’s sickening to watch, there’s nothing ‘tough’ or ‘bad’ about it. It just sucks. Then of course we have to listen to Julien’s whining and moaning about how dirty the other team is, and ‘no no no, we’re the GOOD guys, RIGHT?’. Bah…hard to watch, hard to listen to.

      • pats2001 - May 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM

        there’s a simple solution, don’t watch if you don’t like it. like i’ve said in previous posts, its puttses like you that are making the game soft. bruins/habs is a rivalry. i know you don’t understand that because your team has only been around for a couple years. but in an actual rivalry playoff series this stuff does in fact happen. and i’m not trying to suggest the bruins are innocent by any means. but when markov makes a gutless play by blatantly lifting chara’s legs from underneath him when the game is clearly in hand, sorry sweetheart, there’s going to be a reaction from the bruins. now maybe you should go watch the nba if you can’t take the physical altercations that take place in a playoff rivalry series. and for that matter, stick to your own team. you guys have enough to worry about it

      • hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 11:18 AM

        It’s not a “brand” of hockey, icewipe. It’s illegal in the NHL, and has led to players’ careers being ended. What an effing shmo. So your take on it is that Montreal should take the bait, punch back, get penalized, and let Boston back into the game, huh? Works out great for the Goons. Nah – it’s sh1t.

      • pats2001 - May 13, 2014 at 11:39 AM

        you can look at as goonery if you want to, i’m not going to try and convince you otherwise. bruins and their fans look at it as okay, markov, you make a cheap play on chara at the end of the game which montreal is clearly going to win? we’re going to send a message that that stuff doesnt fly with us and you’re going to have your hands full in game 7. seems clear to me that markov was trying to get chara and the bruins riled up by making that stupid/cheap play and that’s exactly what happened. if i’m therrien or an assistant coach for montreal i’m annoyed with markov for stirring the pot when it was unnecessary. the game was already won and the bruins were clearly awful…perhaps that would have carried into the next game. why bother trying to fire them up heading into game 7? i’m not suggesting this is going to have a huge impact tomorrow night…but it might…the bruins were dead all night

  16. 19to77 - May 13, 2014 at 2:24 AM

    I wonder what Claude Julien thought about his “good guys” back when he coached the Habs.

  17. shwatson - May 13, 2014 at 3:11 AM

    Who’s he trying to convince?

    • elduguay - May 13, 2014 at 10:32 AM

      @shwatson… The refs. He wants them on B’s side for game 7 like usual because fair refs isn’t fair to the Bruins and Julien.

  18. hard2babuffalofan - May 13, 2014 at 7:11 AM

    Seriously Montreal fans ,, Subban is one of the cheapest guys in the league .. Between dives and faking injuries , he only hits anybody when their back is turned or your head down …trust me , not a Bruin fan , but at least they punch ( or squirt water ) in your face not your back ..

  19. hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 8:04 AM

    Claude is delusional enough to be dangerous.

  20. sjsharksfan11 - May 13, 2014 at 8:36 AM

    Boy the Montreal fans sure are classy. Just another reason to hate that team and their childish goal horn

  21. matthews4 - May 13, 2014 at 8:40 AM

    So Let’s see Punk Kid Has tried to punch Bergeron in the back of the head, tripped Lucic and did punch him in the back of the head, and had to apologize for ducking out of the way of a check, The Bruins are scum right? Let’s not go hockey412 here, complain about the B’s being dirty when you have one of the dirtiest player in the game. B’s can be dirty. I have a problem with hearing about damn water by Thornton rather than the cowardly act that probably participated it. It just seems like the B’s get painted as bullies and Montreal are choir boys by the media. That is just a joke. Anyone who has laced them up knows they would rather have a guy who squares up to you, than a guy he continues to go at you with the stick. I ask you honestly for the most part given those definitions which are the B’s and which are Habs.

    • hockey412 - May 13, 2014 at 9:14 AM

      So you are upset about one guy on another team that treats your players like every member of the B’s treats players of opposing teams. Good one. There’s no honor in a game plan that entails punching after every whistle. I’m not going to feel bad for Boston when an opposing player does it to your boys, either (but thanks for the message). The thing is, you finally see my point, I think. You can’t call Subban out and still believe the B’s are ok for doing the same things, can you?

      THAT is why I don’t like the Bruins. Gifted team, no doubt. Just can’t watch the goonery. Neal is one guy. Boston has more than it’s share of scum, more than it’s share of Neal’s, and a game plan that encompasses a goonish part of the game that I despise. And you don’t like it when it’s done against you, it seems.

      • infectorman - May 13, 2014 at 8:41 PM

        “So you are upset about one guy on another team that treats your players like every member of the B’s treats players of opposing teams.”

        Every member huh?


        Not one of them plays like that, fool. You’re worse than a woman with your incessant b1tching about the Bruins

        Newsflash; It’s an emotional game and the “Chosen one” is more of a cheapshot instigator than anyone on the Bruins, by faaaarrrrrrr

        U really ought to stop trolling for once and stick to your team from that armpit of a city you root for.

      • hockey412 - May 14, 2014 at 9:01 AM

        Boychuk, Soderberg, and Campbell most certainly do. Boychuk is one of the WORST. Soderberg was the guy that jumped at Price and knocked his helmet off after a play, right? He’s always flopping on the goaltender after the whistle at the slightest HINT of contact from behind. If that happened to Rask, you could bet that Julien would be out there throwing stones from the second story of his glass house again. So basically, I disagree with you. I’m glad you like your team, but if you can’t see the dirty play from the B’s you’re hopeless.

      • infectorman - May 14, 2014 at 3:15 PM

        I see the dirty play. I see it from EVERY team ALL the time in the NHL. There’s a difference between being one of THOSE players (Matt Cooke) and playing with an edge and emotion.
        The players I listed don’t even approach the BS play of Subban and his instigator style. Marchand? Yes. Thornton, definitely. Lucic, yes.
        Subban is the Bill Laimbeer of the NHL

        The guys I mentioned? No.

        les miserables having been playing right along – all along with the B’s style, so as the good Lord said, he who is without sin cast the first stone.

        BTW, I’m glad you replied, I was worried you may have taken a nose dive off of the Roberto Clemente bridge after last nite. Back to the drawing board for the Pens

      • hockey412 - May 14, 2014 at 3:24 PM

        Like the Matt Cooke and Shawn Thornton/Chara/Lucic type you mean?

      • hockey412 - May 14, 2014 at 3:25 PM

        And no, I’d cheer for the Pens as far as they got, but I never saw them getting past round 2 with that roster this year. Smaller cap on a team so top heavy doesn’t work. But that cap is going to rise.

      • infectorman - May 14, 2014 at 4:16 PM

        How many careers have Thornton, Chara and Lucic ended?

        Cooke, on the other hand should be prosecuted for multiple counts of assault and battery.

        Not even close

      • hockey412 - May 15, 2014 at 9:06 AM

        All three have come very close to ending at least one. And how many did Cooke end? None.

      • infectorman - May 15, 2014 at 9:58 AM

        Really, What effing planet are you living on, anyway?
        yeah, Try Mark Savard hit

      • hockey412 - May 15, 2014 at 10:09 AM

        And Savard returned from that hit. That isn’t the hit that ended his career. It’s just what Boston fans like to tell themselves.

        Also, unlike what Thornton did to Orpik, What Chara did to Patch, and what Lucic attempts to do on every shift (and did to Miller), what Cooke did, at the time, was LEGAL. Scary, but true.

      • infectorman - May 15, 2014 at 10:27 AM

        One of the dirtiest hits I’ve ever seen and a MAJOR contributor to his ultimate demise. Did it have to happen? NOPE. GOONERY on the highest order from Mario’s bunch.
        Keep believing what you want to believe, dude, I care no more…
        Good luck to your Steelers this year

      • hockey412 - May 15, 2014 at 10:39 AM

        Wait wait wait – so you’re saying Chara’s hit wasn’t and it NEEDED to happen….Lucic running Miller and in general the way he boards people and hits in the back…they NEED to happen…Thornton, with his CTE all ablaze, NEEDED to jump someone from behind without regard to whether or not they live or die…but that hit, which was legal at the time (violent, but according to the rules at the time, not dirty), was goonery. wtf? That makes so much sense.

  22. parasolmonster - May 13, 2014 at 10:07 AM

    Note the drinks hitting the glass at the end of that GIF.


  23. leeeroooyjeeenkiiins - May 13, 2014 at 10:18 AM

    If you combined the tears of both of these teams you’d have more salt than the Pacific Ocean. The best thing about this series by far is that one of these groups of obnoxious whiners will cry their way to the offseason in just a couple days.

  24. mjdkid100 - May 13, 2014 at 10:36 AM

    Hmmm, wonder why Chara and the Bruin’s reacted…

  25. skeeterbarnes - May 13, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    Boo friggin’ hoo. Coaches using the media to create some sort of “us against the world” mentality is hardly news anymore. By the way, when they won the Cup, officials regularly either swallowed their whistles or looked the other way when the Bruins mugged Canuck after Canuck.

    Therrien does the same thing. He thinks the Habs should never be penalized and that the refs have it out for them.

    Losing coaches b!tching and moaning about the officiating is not interesting anymore. Either grow a pair, accept that you lost and prep for Game 7 or shut your yaps.

  26. goalie007 - May 13, 2014 at 11:25 AM

    I know all that “sending a message for the next game” crap is exactly that – crap, but I couldn’t help but wonder what a useless goon like Shawn Thornton (5 goals, 3 assists, 8 points for the season, 1 assist in the playoffs) was doing on the ice with 2 mins to go in a 4-0 game. The Bruins will try to goon it up in game 7, here’s hoping it’ll be like the old days and the Habs will skate rings around them for the win.

    • pl4tinum514 - May 13, 2014 at 12:04 PM

      Julien was pissed off and sent him out on purpose, all the while telling the ref to “calm the f–k down”. Dude is a complete lunatic/a$$hole.

    • hockeyflow33 - May 13, 2014 at 1:14 PM

      5 goals for a 4th line player is actually really good.

    • crusty14 - May 13, 2014 at 3:26 PM

      He is on the ice at that time because he is a 4th line guy, eating up minutes in a game that was decided. Should the bruins play their 1st line guys for the last 4 minutes and tire them needlessly? Every coach of every team would put the 3rd and 4th liners out in that situation to eat up the clock

  27. montrealbbr - May 13, 2014 at 11:30 AM

    Boston is just made up of classless thugs who cant keep up with skilled teams so they just resort to trying to hurt players and cheating. I will be so happy tomorrow night when the Bruins lose and all of their fans go into hiding for a few months.

    • crusty14 - May 13, 2014 at 3:27 PM

      and markov played such a clean game and had nothing to do with starting that final scrum

  28. pl4tinum514 - May 13, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    If the Bruins are such good guys Claude, explain to me why as soon as a classy guy like Jarome Iginla joins the Bruins, he becomes a complete f–king goon.

    • drewsylvania - May 13, 2014 at 1:04 PM

      Iginla has always had some fighting in his game. We just didn’t hear about it much since nobody ever hears from Calgary.

  29. drewsylvania - May 13, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    So we get to have yet another 100 comments from Hab homers about how their team never does anything bad and the entire Bruins team should be gassed. Yawn.

    • charlie24zz - May 13, 2014 at 1:36 PM

      Hey buddy

  30. matthews4 - May 13, 2014 at 1:10 PM

    Tool, first off i have never defended acts that were not out of retaliation. What I’am saying is that there is a clear double standard with you. Kunitz, and Crybaby would be crucified for their actions if they were Bruins. I don’t expect you to feel sorry for us, I expect at some point for you to look in the mirror and say i have seen the enemy and it is me. YOUR TEAM DOES THE SAME THINGS. BTW are you really going to say Bergy deserved what Punk Kid did to him? If Crybaby had half the class Bergy does nobody would hate his arrogant self-entitled attitude so much. In summary so you can grasp it If Marchy or Lucic start things without pacification have at it, however if they are tripped beaten in the back of the head then yeah the “goon ” thing goes Bye-Bye.

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