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McLellan: Sharks got ‘cheated’ on game-winning goal

Apr 29, 2014, 2:09 AM EDT

Following Monday’s 4-1 loss to Los Angeles, the San Jose Sharks wasted little time in sharing their thoughts on Justin Williams‘ game-winning goal.

Here’s the video:

Following the game, former NHL referee and current TSN analyst Kerry Fraser explained that he would’ve disallowed the goal based on rule 69.6, which deals with loose pucks and rebounds.

The rule reads like this:

In the event that a goalkeeper has been pushed into the net together with the puck by an attacking player after making a stop, the goal will be disallowed.

If applicable, appropriate penalties will be assessed. In the event that the puck is under a player in or around the crease area (deliberately or otherwise), a goal cannot be scored by pushing this player together with the puck into the goal.

Fraser’s explanation?

Interesting debate, but a moot one as both teams are already looking ahead to Game 7. It’ll go on Wednesday in San Jose, at 10 p.m. ET on NBCSN.

  1. ethanmacleod1685 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:16 AM

    And is The reason why we lost game 6. LA is one hell of a team, I’m not gonna sit here and bash on them like their fans are on us,would rather acknowledge and congratulate them. It’s been one hell of a series and what a game 7 this is gonna be!

    Go Sharks

    • ethanmacleod1685 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:17 AM

      I must say tho, LA fans are being absolutely classless right now

      • 22lakings22 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:44 AM

        How about not scoring on a 1:38 5 on 3? Is that not one of the reasons for not winning Game 6? The refs practically gift wrapped this game for the Sharks, and luckily for the Kings, they were able to shut the Sharks down. Your first comment had a purpose but your second comment sounds like sour grapes. Game 7 is going to be awesome. Buckle up.

      • cybernetikghost - Apr 29, 2014 at 3:37 AM

        I don’t know what kings fans are doing that is classless but if I were a sharks fan, I wouldn’t throw stones when they were saying the things that they were following games 4 and 5. I think that kings fans’ pride is stinging a sharks fanbase that has had to eat a few helpings of humble pie.

      • nightfireop - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:06 AM

        clearly ethan has not shown up on PHT after games 1,2, and even 3. heh…talk about class; 2 problems with that:

        1) if you really want to dwell on that, look at some of the older articles and see some of the sharks fan posts.

        2) the usual “everybody _______ fan is classes” remark. remember, not everyone is blomfeld.

      • pirovash88 - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:23 AM

        So Kings fans are classless now, huh? Let me throw some quotes in here for you from some of your buddies when the Sharks led the series 3-0.

        [quote]GKG!! Go kings golf!![/quote]

        [quote]BOHICA, LOS ANGELES! Bend over, here is comes AGAIN![/quote]

        [quote]Get your golf clubs ready Kings fans. Blomfeld, who has gone MIA, has been spotted hitting the greens early to explain the peace we have experienced here on PHT.[/quote]

        [quote]Come on Sharks! Kill the Kings.

        Such an awful hack of a hockey team. A far cry from their cup run just a couple years ago.[/quote]

        [quote]SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!!!!!

        Couldn’t happen to a bigger bunch of d-bags. Enjoy your offseason, Los Angeles. We’re going to take Ol’ Yeller out behind the barn on Thursday and put one in its ear.[/quote]

        [quote]Fact of the matter, LA d-bags, did Raffi Torres not get taken out of the series last year when he was hit with Brendan Shanahanigans, we would have ended your run early last year too.[/quote]

  2. chitown26 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:16 AM

    Second worst ref in hockey: Chris Lee

    Worst ref in hockey: Tim Peele

    How these guys have jobs is beyond me. I love that you could hear Lee saying “I don’t know! I don’t know!” to McClellan on the bench during the explanation.

  3. bigben1513 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:31 AM

    Not a fan of the sharks or kings but I saw the puck still moving and not covered I thought it was a good goal

    • bildomatic - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:30 AM

      I agree, puck was loose and there should have been no whistle. The only thing that makes this questionable is the Kerry Fraser explanation about pushing the goaltender into the puck and not pushing the puck into the net. I guess from there it comes down to interpretation so who knows. Strange play.

      • dickschofield8291986 - Apr 29, 2014 at 12:30 PM

        … pushed into the net together

        If “into” means “toward” you might be right, but if “into” means “into” then it should be a good goal because Stalock never went into the net.

        Plus, does “together” mean the goalie has controlled the puck or is just around it?

        It’s an interesting interpretive conundrum, but ultimately just academic, there’s no great injustice in a 4-1 game.

  4. aldog83 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:31 AM

    Willams was going BACKWARDS

  5. jason9696 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:33 AM

    The ref behind the net should have blown the whistle before Justin Williams pushed the goalie with his stick. That being said. I’m glad the Kings won.

  6. aldog83 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:37 AM

    Pavelski took Willaims OUT Williams was going BACKWARDS when he was taking a whack at the puck.

    The whack of the stick by a player getting body checked in the opposite direction of the net. did not propel stalock into the net.

    Watch the replay. Stalock felt the puck sliding between his pads and pushed the puck in himself.

    Fraser is wrong.

    • sw19womble - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:43 AM

      I think you’re confusing Stalock with a Coyotes goalie. ;)

    • imleftcoast - Apr 29, 2014 at 12:20 PM

      Fraser is wrong. I’m surprised he is overruling the ref behind the net. I hate both teams, but the ref had discretion and didn’t blow the whistle. I wouldn’t be happy as a Sharks fan, but they needed to pull it together.

  7. bigtganks - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:39 AM

    Geez McClellan… Then why didn’t your team score after that? Why did they give up two more goals? I can understand feeling cheated if you lost 2-1 but c’mon… Really???

    • bigtganks - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:44 AM

      Sharks fans feel cheated out of that 90+ second 5 on 3, and 3-0 series lead.

      • tdaveniii - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:29 AM

        This. I thought the call on the goal was horsecrap, as did most of my Sharks fan brethren, but I heard no one except McClellan blaming the loss on that call. The Sharks should have scored on the 5 on 3 and had plenty of time to come back even after the questionable call. And, bear in mind that McClellan was satisfied with the explanation at the time the call was made, so there’s even less reason for it to have any bearing on the game.

        The power plan and PK have been awful. I hope Larry Robinson can get this squared away before game 7.

      • imleftcoast - Apr 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM

        I think McLellan is probably trying to take some pressure off his team. Talk about anything other than blowing a 3-0 lead.

  8. seitz26 - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:46 AM

    Kerry needs to read the rule again.

    “In the event that a goalkeeper has been pushed into the net together with the puck by an attacking player after making a stop, the goal will be disallowed.”

    Stalock was pushed toward the net, but never into the net, and certainly never into the net “together with the puck”. The puck went in before his skates got to goal line. It was loose the whole time. One could argue that the incidental contact portion of 69.6 is implicated, but a) Fraser isn’t arguing that, and b) that would make the “pushed into net” language superfluous. There is simply no rule in the book that could be cited to disallow that goal without reading something into the rule that isn’t there.

    • troutguide - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:44 AM

      So an NHL ref says he would of disallowed the goal. Now LA fans act like they know more about the game….the bigger issue on this series is why is Stoll in this game. The league not doing anything to an elbow to the back of a player after initial contact is unexplainable. We won 3 in a row , LA won three in a row. LA clearly has the momentum. Biggest play so far, Stoll hitting Vlasick in the head and Thorton not playing physical until 2 min left in game 6. For my money, both Thorton and Boyle should be sent packing after this season. Both are showing their age in this series.

      • seitz26 - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:59 AM

        Read the rule, watch the replay. Tell me where in the rulebook you can find anything that would allow a referee to disallow the goal. Go ahead, I’ll wait.

        But you must be right, because Kerry Fraser never ever ever got a call wrong. Just ask Toronto fans.

  9. pitpenguinsrulez - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:57 AM

    WAH!!!! Maybe if your team could’ve closed out the Sharks earlier in the series then this wouldn’t even exist/be an issue. Also quit crying about a blown call. Suck it up and come to play on Wednesday cause if ya don’t then well you’ll join the illustrious club of blowing a 3-0 series lead.

    • pitpenguinsrulez - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:59 AM

      Kings not Sharks, whoops.

  10. dannymac17 - Apr 29, 2014 at 3:24 AM

    Lmao did a sharks fan say that kings fans were classless? Why dont you pop over to the comments on ESPN and tell yourself that again.

    When this was 3-0 Sharks fans were calling for a sweep and calling Kings fans babies for the loss in OT.

    Now all of a sudden the tables have turned and the Kings fans are classless.

    Cant have your cake and eat it to homeboy.

    Fact is, that puck was still moving, my guess is it wouldnt have popped out the back before his skate hit the line if it were the other way around.

    Kings take 3 in a row and you feel cheated because of one GOAL?

    Puhhhhlease.

    Back to the Shart tank to break some hearts. Pound sand sissy lalas.

    • maalea - Apr 29, 2014 at 8:54 AM

      Anyone who goes to ESPN for hockey content, gets what they deserve.

      • pastabelly - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:30 AM

        ESPN is a four letter word when it comes to hockey (and many other sports as well) and you just have to hate the way they charge for so-called premium content. That garbage is nothing more than you can get for free at any trade rumor site.

      • dannymac17 - Apr 29, 2014 at 1:02 PM

        No doubt. But comments are comments no matter where you go. Those people who comment and human just like you and I.

  11. cybernetikghost - Apr 29, 2014 at 3:44 AM

    The problem with McLellan saying things like this is that it perpetuates a “woe is me” mindset. He shouldn’t be sending a message to his team, coaching staff, or fanbase that one call against you can determine your fate. You work hard, forget about everything that is out of your control, and will things to happen. It’s how they got good bounces in the first games. It would have been easy for the kings to give up in the series after that unfortunate bounce in game 3 for the OT winner.

    Luckily for everyone, there is a game 7 to have another go at things.

    • namriverrat69 - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:59 PM

      McClellan is throwing a hissy fit over the refs call so if the Sharks gag and lose game 7, it won’t be all his is fault. McClellan is doing what all coaches in his position do; he’s trying to save his job. The first one blamed on majestic loses is the coach.

      Both teams are great and it should be an all time great game. Especially for the winning . . . . . . . . .!! Hold on to your hats boys, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.

  12. kingsfan93 - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:48 AM

    McLellan, Couture, Stalock, and coaching staff all have eyes that are deceiving.

    McLellan making it seem like this is the ONE GOAL that is gonna be the difference maker in the series, is a lie. Why don’t for anyone on that Sharks team that want to sit there and believe that shouldn’t of been a goal go get their eyes checked.

    Also, how come there is no more of that crap talk from you sharks fans suddenly?
    When the Kings were down 3-0 in the series, you Sharks fans were all up on your high horses thinking all glory for the Sharks.

    • ethanmacleod1685 - Apr 29, 2014 at 8:48 AM

      Please stfu. We’ve outplayed you in every game in the series. That “one goal” could defeienly have been the difference maker as we may have scored after and eliminated you. You have no idea what your talking about!

      • seitz26 - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:09 AM

        We? Which number are you? As for the Sharks outplaying the Kings, you must have missed game five, and large portions of games four and six.

      • tdaveniii - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:33 AM

        Ethan, I’m a Sharks fan, but we have not outplayed the Kings in every game. I went to games 2 and 5 and have tix for tomorrow night. The Sharks did not shoe up for game 5. It was a disappointingly lackadaiscal effort — only Nieto, Hertl and Rafi showed up. L.A. absolutely deserved that win and also kicked the Sharks’ butts in game 6. If I see another open defender try a stretch pass rather than advance the puck, my head might explode!

      • kingsfan93 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:39 PM

        HEY ETHANMACLEOD1685 – I think YOU NEED to stfu already!

        Have you been watching the Kings vs Sharks playoff series at all? I doubt it. For someone like you to state what you said is full of ignorance and eyes that are deceiving to you, too.

        You are a bandwagon fan!

        Todd McLellan can make all the excuses he wants. It was just like last year in the playoffs when it was game 6 (I believe so?) when Vlasic shot the puck out of play, when there too was T. McLellan making a big dispute over it. Tell McLellan to stop the f’n bickering already. It carries onto the team.

  13. gbow1 - Apr 29, 2014 at 4:49 AM

    TM should have called a timeout after the blown call to settle himself and the team down. The game is not over with 8 min left.

    The bottom line in the Sharks have not had an answer for the third line in LA. Havlat, Pavs, and Wingles are not big/strong enough…..they were on the ice for the first two goals, and Wingles got called for the penalty that led to the fourth goal. Havlat blew coverage on the first goal, and was soft on the original shot on the 2nd goal….he will be back on the bench in game 7.

    Home ice and late change, is why these teams win at home 90% of the times that they play eachother. For game 7, Brown is back in, Pavs will be back on the top line, Torres will share time on the third and forth lines with Hertel, and Pavs and Thorton will step in to take any DZone draws for Shepard. Unfortunately, Nieme will also be back in….on a short lease. If Torres can handle the minutes, he will also be standing in from of the net on the first power play unit.

    If TM was a better coach, in game 4 in LA they would have played 3 Defensemen and 3 Forwards that have been sitting-out (with instructions to finish ALL checks and then some), and rested 6 players for game 5. The Sharks look like the are out of gas, and they could have used minor-leaguer’s to run-down the Kings in game 4 then crushed them with fresh players in game 5 at home.

  14. tlndma - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:00 AM

    I’ve never thought that Kerry Fraser knew the rule book.

    • namriverrat69 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:22 PM

      Frazier probably brushes up on the rules while he is in line waiting to buy hair spray. He is just another ref who has an opinion of rule 69.6. It has not been stressed enough that Stalock was not himself pushed across the goal. The loose puck slid away from him and entered the goal going to the back of the net before the edge of Stalock’s skate came close. The video says it all. You could ask every ref in the league and get different views and interpretations of the rule. The video says it all. Crying and whining won’t change the correct call in that situation.

      I don’t know the rule book. I love hockey and know the basic rules of the game like most fans of this, the greatest game in the world – except for Jai Lai of course. I did say fans, not fanatics. This is just from what I have read here about rule 69.6. I somehow knew the rule would be 69, my favorite temporature.

      • namriverrat69 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:26 PM

        Oops – typo on Fraser. I hope the legions can forgive me.

  15. heynyc61 - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:07 AM

    He’s defending a brother… I have no issues with that goal. What about the rangers getting robbed of a goal on Sunday Gotta be consistent refs

  16. matt14gg - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:24 AM

    Nothing signifies the NHL playoffs have begun quite like the Sharks choking away a series.

    • pastabelly - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:32 AM

      Well, the St Louis first round exit and Fleury yips also signify that April is coming to an end soon as well.

  17. patthehockeyfan - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:44 AM

    It’s obvious the whistle should have been blown when the puck disappeared. In that regard, the Sharks were robbed.

    The Kings know what it’s like to be on the receiving end of a bad goal call. Game against Detroit when a Wings’ shot was deflected into the net and out of play. Puck fell back down on to Quickie’s back and into the net. Refs called it a good goal.

    As I wrote then: Stuff happens. Sometimes you’re the windshield. Sometimes you’re the bug.

    Sorry to Sharks’ fans for this one goal. It shouldn’t have happened; but, it did. Let’s move on.

    • crushed49 - Apr 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM

      If it was 1 or 2 questionable/bad calls I’m pretty sure we Sharks fans would be understanding. However, when it’s multiple bad calls in every game, regular season or playoffs, while they are playing the Kings…it gets really frickin’ old. 2 examples: Brown’s hit on Hertl – nothing, damn near ruined his career but he’s a King, guess it doesn’t matter. And lets not forget about Stoll hitting the back of Vlasic’s head – wow! He got a 2 min rest. Meanwhile, a different player was ejected from the game and suspended 3 games for a similar hit.
      So, yeah, I would say Sharks fans have every right to wonder about the refs objectivity and ability fo do their jobs. If the shoe was on the other foot, the Kings would be the loudest damn crybabies in history.

      • namriverrat69 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:40 PM

        Here comes Shark fan CRUSHED 49 with the persecution complex. Whenever the Sharks play the Kings every single call goes the King’s way. These poor helpless Sharks are picked on by the refs in a conspiracy that must come directly from the Commissioner’s office. I can’t argue with that logic.

        I do have to agree in one respect. Since the Kings aren’t being picked on and you are, i must sumise that the Sharks are the loudest damn crybabies in history. Good Job CRUSHED 49 in leading your troops in sportsmanship.

  18. dmarado - Apr 29, 2014 at 7:46 AM

    Two losses in deciding games, two complaints about calls on the ice. Sharks, try playing better hockey instead of complaining about the other team.

  19. billiam55 - Apr 29, 2014 at 8:51 AM

    the sharks didnt look like the team they were in games 1 and 2 though.

  20. joejacks - Apr 29, 2014 at 9:00 AM

    Officiating in the first round has been a disappointment

  21. Hard to BeLeaf - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Refereeing has been terrible these playoffs, but as a hockey fan, it’s hard to be upset this series is going to game 7. It’s been great.

  22. reeggss - Apr 29, 2014 at 11:54 AM

    Stalock was not in net, puck came out from under him when he never had control.
    How about Pearson going for a scoring chance, stopping in front of Stalock AS the whistle blew and gets unsportsmanlike for it?!?!

  23. vstar1us - Apr 29, 2014 at 2:00 PM

    You think you got cheated, just look at the Wild! They have been tagged in the rump a few times by less then desirable calls. The refs need to be held accountable.

  24. slysipops - Apr 29, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    where is BLOMFELD ? KINGS are making GUPPIES out of the SHARKS and he is MIA ??

  25. titansrbeast - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:03 PM

    Honestly, the Kings are a damn good team and even when the series was 3-0 Sharks I was one of the few who thought LA could and would make a series out of it. With that being said, I really did think that 2nd goal was BS just for the fact that SJ has had multiple games ruined over being on the wrong side of the “intent to blow” rule. Chris Lee’s whistle was damn near IN his mouth, but he never meant to blow the play dead? Either way, game’s over and on to 7 but I definitely think last nights game had OT potential if not for that 2nd goal.

    Good luck in game 7 Kings fans, hopefully you’ll need the luck more than we will. If Sharks lose this game, I just may cry a little (out of what would almost be related to nerd rage). If we WIN the series, I think I might break something out of excitement (because I’m no more mature than a 10 year old when SJ wins).

  26. davidmessina63 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:35 PM

    I don’t care either way who wins this series but I will say that goal should not have counted. I remember a Bruins goal being disallowed because they used the “Dead in the Head” rule. Ref never blew his whistle but said in his head he was going to. Goalie clearly had the puck covered. Would the Sharks collapse as they did had that goal not counted? Who knows. Either way I don’t see either one of them making it too far with the collapses both teams have demonstrated in round 1.

  27. kingsfan93 - Apr 29, 2014 at 5:51 PM

    For those of you that really want to believe Stalock getting pushed into the net and shouldn’t of been a goal all have eyes that are deceiving to you.

    I understand that you may be a fan of the Sharks or whatever. But when J. Williams tipped the puck in-between A. Stalock’s legs (5 hole), J. Williams was following up with the play. While he was on his side lying down he was was taking a few jabs at the puck because it was LOOSE. Why do you guys think A. Stalock kept looking in back of himself? The referee even knew it was loose.

    I know it is a real nail biter. But suck it up you guys and move on.

    T. McLellan is just finding excuses to keep his job next season.

  28. titansrbeast - Apr 30, 2014 at 3:31 AM

    Well K. Fan, did you see the part where the R. eferee said if he was reffing the game, he would have disallowed it. So clearly not everyone’s eyes “deceived” them. If the Sharks got that goal I would have loved it, so I can’t say you shouldn’t…but at least be open minded about it.

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