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Chara, Keith and Weber are this year’s Norris Trophy finalists

Apr 28, 2014, 11:38 AM EDT

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Boston’s Zdeno Chara, Chicago’s Duncan Keith, and Nashville’s Shea Weber are the three finalists for the Norris Trophy as the NHL’s best defenseman.

From NHL.com:

Chara…averaged a team-high 24:39 of ice time per game, nearly 3 minutes more than the next-closest player, and also placed in the top 10 among NHL defensemen in goals (17), plus/minus (+25), power-play goals (10) and game-winning goals (3). 

Keith led all defensemen with 55 assists and ranked second among blueliners with 61 points to power a Chicago offense that paced the NHL with 267 goals.

Weber ranked first among defensemen with 23 goals and set a franchise record for points by a blueliner with 56, leading the Predators in scoring for the second consecutive season. 

Of the three, Weber is the only one who’s yet to win the award. Chara won in 2009; Keith in 2010.

The last two recipients, Ottawa’s Erik Karlsson and Montreal’s PK Subban, also had strong seasons, with the former leading all d-men with 74 points. However, both finished as minus players (Karlsson -15, Subban -4), which despite the dubiousness of that statistic may have hurt their chances with Professional Hockey Writers’ Association voters. (Ottawa’s poor season as a team wouldn’t have helped Karlsson either.)

Weber also finished as a minus player (-2) on a Predators team that didn’t make the playoffs, which could hurt his chances. That said, Nicklas Lidstrom won the award in 2011 with a minus-2 rating, so voters have been able to look past plus/minus before.

As for some so-called snubs…

— Minnesota’s Ryan Suter led the NHL in total ice time, averaging almost 30 minutes a game, while scoring more points than Chara’s 40, with 43.

— Tampa Bay’s Victor Hedman had the third-most even-strength points (35), behind only Karlsson (43) and Keith (39).

— Calgary’s Mark Giordano was a favorite of the advanced stats community, with a 53.3% Corsi on a rebuilding Flames team that had poor overall possession numbers.

  1. ironyisadeadscene - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Keith for the win

  2. jkay1818 - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    definitely Keith. McDonagh was a snub too, but he has time, he’s really young.

  3. montrealbbr - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    I hope Weber wins it since he isnt a dirty player like the other two scumbags.

    • hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:52 AM

      haha no offense but Weber has a mean streak in him, same as Keith. Just ask Zetterberg’s forehead.

      • Idaslapter - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM

        Still whining about that uh?

      • hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:00 PM

        No, I remembered laughing when it happened at just how ludicrous is was…in no way laughing at head shots or injuries, just about the concept of actually ramming a guys head off the glass in that situation. I like Weber, also like Keith, so maybe you shouldn’t assume that anyone with half a memory, and willing to use said memory to refute a statement when someone throws stones at the other candidates, is ‘whining’.

      • titansbro - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:38 PM

        A good dman should have a mean streak.

      • hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:01 PM

        I don’t disagree with that at all, but I don’t think you can say Keith’s mean streak makes him dirty, and Weber’s makes him clean. That was the only point.

    • hawksin5 - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:49 PM

      keith? scumbag? u must not watch a lot of hockey. either that or you are very dumb.

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:57 PM

        He said something mean, once. A habs fan heard this and now he is dirty and should be banned from the league. I am thoroughly going to enjoy the B’s steamrolling this team. They give up 4+ goals a game to the Bruins and it’s gonna be a quick one.

      • hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:07 PM

        Keith is one of my favorite players, and no, he’s not a scumbag, but to pepper’s discredit, he has his own history (not just ‘saying something mean’). Someone above mentioned you have to have a mean streak and I agree with that – but my point is that Keith is a great player but he’s earned some of the comments. So has Weber, and certainly so has Chara. He’s no dirtier, for certain.

      • McFaddensPulledHammy - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:21 PM

        Hawks fan here. As far as Keith goes, I can make the case that he’s a dirty player/scumbag:

        High stick on Danny Sedin two years ago
        Mouth shot on Jeff Carter last year
        Alleged comment to Backes this year

        That being said, Hawks don’t win series without him. They are a different team with Dunc in lineup.

    • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:49 PM

      The last two Playoff series were the Bruins played were against teams and Fan bases I have utmost respect for in the Wings and Hawks. All three teams had moments I didn’t like, but they all play the game the right way for the most part. It’s hard not to respect what Abdelkader and Shaw (for example) bring to the table.

      It was so nice to go through an entire series where the fans weren’t whining about how dirty the Bruins were or how they dive.

      It is so easy to Hate the Habs. I am looking forward to going into a series not needing to find a reason to hate the Bruins opponent.

      Oh – back the actual article. Suter should have won. I didn’t think Chara had a great year, but I guess if you factor in his revolving parter (usually a kid), I guess it changes things.

      I would have gone:
      Suter
      Mcdonough
      Keith

      Chara

      • hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:18 PM

        Thanks for throwing something relevant in at the end, there. Believe me, most other fan bases endure their fair share of whining coming from the Boston proud.

        Oh back to the article – I don’t disagree with your rankings, it’s possible that there are a about 10 other Dmen this year that deserve to fill that middle slot and probably ranked higher than Chara. I think he was simply a big name to fill a slot. Sometimes they go with what they know.

      • Idaslapter - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:25 PM

        Suter, are you kidding?

    • drewsylvania - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:02 PM

      Not doing your fanbase any favors….

  4. hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM

    I guess you’d have to give it to Keith. Chara getting top 3 in nominations this year only proves that there is a lot to be said for branding, especially when it comes to writers voting.

    • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:10 PM

      You don’t give Chara enough credit. Which is fine, but he is a hell of a d man. Yeah sometimes a quick little guy blows by him, but if you don’t catch him flat footed; you are not getting around him. I have heard for years that Chara stinks; it’s the system, Rask isn’t that good; it’s the system. Yes, the system is fantastic, but you have to execute it, and he is the backbone. Chara would have been 4th on my list, but I think I can also take him for granted.

      If it is 100% system; why don’t all teams adopt their system? you need the right guys and the right center piece (Chara).

      Chara played with a handful of partners this year with the same or less experience than the guys Weber player with.

      The more I write, the more I am convincing myself he 100% deserves to be top 3. I have a hard time with a guy who was a -2 being nominated. Don’t get me wrong. Weber is Elite, but he was still a -2.

      • ironyisadeadscene - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:17 PM

        If he played for Pittsburgh these chumps would be singing a different tune on Chara. Take comments like his with a grain of salt. Too many fans of teams that just hate all things Bruins.

        It’s all good

      • hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:27 PM

        Why, because he played with other people? The article lists some fluff…he played more than anyone on his team (which can be said for most top D-men…it’s just the math of hockey)…he was top 15th in scoring, but also 17th in giveaways. No where near the top in takeaways, or hits, or blocked shots, or really doing anything but being a big boy out there…no award for that in my book. Lots of goals this year, but the majority of those came from power play. Being one man up and taking advantage doesn’t make you better, in my opinion.

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:49 PM

        How many goals did the Pens score against the Bruins in the playoffs last year?

        He can’t really hit, because every time he does; he get a penalty called for being stronger and bigger than the other guy. He doesn’t block that many shots because he forces everyone to the outside. Not too many guys challenge him. He does cough the puck up occasionally, but it’s usually on a puck that no other guy would have gotten to. You are looking at him in Vacuum.

        It would be like me saying Sid is overrated; he can’t put up numbers against elite D men and he cleans up on the weaker guys. (using 12-13 playoffs). It’s just not true. I bet if you asked Sid he wouldn’t think he was just big. Myers is just about the same size and I don’t see any nominations for him. With Scott back there too; you can see that just having big bodies back there served them well.

      • hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:16 PM

        You are saying that the number of goals scored by the Pens LAST year, should factor into the Norris voting THIS year? Or did I misinterpret that?

        Actually I did not say that Chara is overrated – I think he had a damn good year. I’d rank him around 7 or 8th best defender this year. Possibly 6th. Just can’t see any real reason to include him in the Norris top three, and when I hear people tank specifics it almost sounds like “well, we wanted Keith and Weber in it, and we needed a third, and we know him, and know he’s generally pretty good, so we’ll go with him”. As for the Sid thing, you are more than welcome to your opinion – if you think Sid is overrated, I don’t have a problem with it. But it’s about as relevant as your first rant.

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:56 PM

        Ever notice it’s always Pens fans? Get over it; you lost.

      • hockey412 - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:19 PM

        It’s an opinion on the votes, bub…maybe you should take it for what it is, and not look that deep into it.

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:48 PM

        No; you missed most of it. Chara is better this year than he was last year. He was paired with a revolving door of mostly young den (or Meszaros) and he got better as the year went on.

        You tell me not to look too deep into it, but you are the one reciting stats on hits, blocks, giveaways and takeaways.

        You: “…or hits, or blocked shots, or really doing anything but being a big boy out there…no award for that in my book”

        Kind of sounds like you are saying he isn’t that good. just sayin’

        No, I think Sid the best player in the league and that you (all Chara haters) tend to look at Chara in a vacuum; meaning one play, series, or whatnot. I am saying that that is stupid. It would be like looking at Sid and forming all opinions on him based on last years series against the Bruins. That just because Chara and the B’s were able to shut him down; it doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t be at the top of build around a guy list (right behind Bergeron).

      • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:53 PM

        im sorry did you just use last years playoffs to support the case for an award this regular season?

        stop getting al butt hurt man. nobody is saying chara sucks, or anything even close to it. none of us “biased pens fans” are even saying we have a better defenseman on our team.

        get a grip man. all we are saying is he did not have a norris trophy caliber year and just maybe, maybe shouldnt be one of the 3 nominees. i do believe we are allowed to make that argument and quite honestly depsite all the giddy bruins dans in here voting us down, we are making a really strong case and all you got is what happened to the pens last year.

        you know how many times i have heard bruins fans talking about that series in the last 6 months? and your gonna tell US to get over it?

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 4:46 PM

        @c9 – Do they teach reading comprehension in Pittsburgh? What I am saying has NOTHING to do with last year. NOTHING. He has been better this year. The reason I am referencing last years playoffs is to point out that it would be ignorant to use that as the baseline for the Pens players, just as the one or two games you may have caught Chara in this year aren’t what he should be judged on this season.

        -He was a +25
        -His team won the Presidents Trophy.
        -They won the presidents trophy and had the best goal differential of any team in the league. They did this with Seidenberg & Mcquaid both missing substantial time. Bartkowski(20), Miller(0), Krug(3), Hamilton(46) all had a combined 69 NHL games heading into this season. 67% from a 19 year old Hamilton.
        -He put up decent numbers, but I am not so concerned with this. His was a forward on the PP so that helped, but the fact that he was able to do it, and successfully shouldn’t be overlooked.

        In summary:
        It was Boychuk and Chara with pretty much 4 rookies all season long. They still managed to have the best goal differential, He was a +25. They were 8th in the PK % despite the rookies, They had the 3rd best PP mostly because of his net front presence (honest question, do other D men do this, Byfuglien?) They were the best 5 on 5 team in hockey. His goalie will more than likely win the Vezina – I guess that could go either way, but I’d bet Rask would rather have him in front of him than just about anyone else.

        And… we keep talking about the series because despite getting blown out of the water; you still think EVERYONE on the Bruins is overrated or undeserving of acclaim. They have now been the NHL’s elite for 3+ years and yet according to Pitt fans Bergeron is the only good player. Martin or Letang are better than Chara, Seidenberg, or Boychuk, Neal is better than Lucic, etc…

        Only because Babcock did it; it would be like looking at the Red Wings teams and saying Lidstrom isn’t that good, he doesn’t hit that much…

        After all this I went from thinking Chara shouldn’t have been top 3( I would have had him 4th, see above), to 100% sure he deserves it.

      • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM

        first of all insulting me and repeating yourself are not going to get me to see things your way.

        second, everyone? how can you say that?

        if you havent been paying attention ive said bergeron is the easy choice for selke and rask is the best goalie in the world. here let me put it in caps like you do because im tired of hearing your pouting about me thinking chara is ONLY a top 10 defender this year…

        PATRICE BERGERON IS A HECK OF A HOCKEY PLAYER AND PROBABLY THE BEST TWO WAY FORWARD IN THE NHL OR FOR THAT MATTER, THE LEAGUE HAS SEEN FOR A WHILE.

        RASK IS IN MY MIND THE BEST GOALTENDER IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW, UNQUESTIONED. HES WON THE BIG GAMES, PLAYED THE MOST CONSISTENT, AND IS STILL PRETTY DARN YOUNG. NOT WHO YOU WANT TO FACE IN THE PLAYOFFS AND PROBABLY THE SINGLE BIGGEST REASON FOR BOSTON’S SUCCESS

        stop being such a crybaby. you talk about reading comprehension and yet the essense of every single one of my posts has gone flying over your head.

        and you still havent given me 1 single reason why niskanen should be in the conversation of possible candidates like chara. in fact, in all the reasons you listed for chara, niskanen has as good of if not better case in those categories. you fail to see you made him look even better than the guy who is second place in votes.

        better +/-, more points, an equally young and inexperienced team, one that finished just a few points behind boston and a few places behind them in goal differential, as outstanding as boston’s numbers were in those categories.

        give it up man, your putting words in peoples mouths. nobody ever said any of the penguin’s defenseman were better than chara. please quote somebody and tell me where that happened. nobody said neal is better than lucic (although he is) where did that happen?

        wipe your nose you look like a mess.

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 6:56 PM

        I don’t read your posts unless they are replying to mine, Sorry. I am not crying about anything. I don’t think Niskanen is a Norris worthy dman. He is decent, but like I said; 1 game to shut down Datsyk, Giroux, Toews, etc… I am not taking Matt effin Niskanen ANYWHERE near the top of that list. Like I said; he is a decent young player, but nowhere near the caliber of the Chara, Weber, Keith, Suter, Giordano, Mcdonough, etc… There are a dozen, maybe two dozens guys ahead of him on that list. Heck Martin is a better Dman than him. He doesn’t show up on the offensive side of things as much, but the Norris trophy is the best defenseman. Karlsson shouldn’t and neither should Subban. I am not saying he is bad by any means; a solid 2 or 3, but he is not a number 1… Just my opinion. Stop crying; if his name pops up in the conversation (which it should have) again next year; then we can revisit this, but he’ll be on the Redwings, so I doubt you’ll care.

      • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 8:05 PM

        funny you say that you responded to the first post i made on this article.

        still havent given me a reason.

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 10:15 PM

        A reason for what? Niskanen? I did, he’s not that good. Not Norris Caliber; plain and simple.

        I don’t know how else to say it.

        Orr, Robinson, Bourque, Lidstrom and…Chara? ok… Suter? ok… Weber? ok… Niskanen? Hell NO!

        you really have a hard time understanding things, huh?

        I am not whining. I don’t care, and that annoys you; I am not sure why?

        I didn’t have Chara as a finalist, but now I do. I didn’t have niskanen as a finalist because he’s not that good. He’s good, just not THAT good.

        I don’t know what else you are looking for. You keep trolling and seem to be making stuff up. You are kind of making a fool of yourself.

        Again, don’t care what you think I am saying; you clearly do not have any sort of reading comprehension. You can continue to leave vague statements such as “Still haven’t given me a reason” and ” you are a liar” but you are throwing out random ship because you have no argument.

      • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 10:31 PM

        niskanen: 46 pts, chara 40 pts. niskanen +33, chara +25. gwg niskanen 6, chara 3.

      • pepper2011 - Apr 29, 2014 at 10:16 AM

        I am happy for you and him. He still wasn’t nominated because he’s not as good. Sorry.

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 10:27 PM

        Adam McQuaid led the NHL in +/- a couple years ago at +30. He’s good, but he’s not Norris caliber.

        Also, he is not the Pens top D pairing – Meaning he is not seeing the Top offenses every game. Martin and Orpik are their Shutdown guys. Scuderi when healthy too.

        You are the only one getting bent. Seriously. He got a couple 3rd & 4th place votes? good for him. atta boy.

      • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 10:32 PM

        how many games did paul martin play?

      • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

        i also like reilly smith, bartkowski (for obvious reasons), hamilton, iginla, krejci, and soderberg. i think they are wonderful players for different reasons.

        you liar.

  5. bigcat2330 - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    No mention of mcdonagh? Lol

  6. killerpgh - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Weber would get my vote. He anchored a defense corp of mostly young, unproven players. Lead team in PK and PP as well as overall ice time per game. The Predators scored 214 goals all year long. Weber figured in on 26.1% of them while come up 2nd on the team in goals, 1st in assists and points. The Preds used 5 different goalies this year. His +/- numbers would have been better if Rinne was hurt 3/4 of the year.

    • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:34 PM

      i dont know. saying he led a group of young unproven players and then citing the fact he led those guys in ice time and points is somewhat counter productive. of course he did…

      not a fan of the chara and weber selections. Pietrangelo would have been a pick, and tough to say on the other one. Hedman, Giordano, Niskanen, and McDonagh would all have been REAL choices. not a fan of the weber and chara PP stats.

      not trying to take anything away from them, but having a booming slapshot and scoring all those PP goals means nothing to me as far as being a defenseman is concerned.

      let me be a homer for a moment. niskanen had 46 points, led defenseman in +/- with +33, and also led them in GWG with 6.

      only two things held him back from this media award. name, and ice time.

      either way, gotta go to Duncan Keith…

      • pepper2011 - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:24 PM

        Wow – are you sure you are a Pens fan?

        I agree with most of what you are saying, but Chara also led a very young defensive team. I don’t think it had anything to do with his PP stats. He started off slow, but really picked it up 2nd half of the season when the Bruins D was crumbling.

        Niskanen is a nice player who had a nice season, but if you are heading into game 7 against your own Pens which guy on that list has the best shot of shutting them down? To me, its the three nominees and Suter and Mcdonough. Suter winning it.

      • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:13 PM

        niskanen can skate with todays top players. his team had a lesser goal differential than boston. much less. his rating still exceeds chara’s. this award has nothing to do with your game 7 scenario.

        you dont need to get all banged up about it. i wasnt trying to take anything away from chara he is still a top D-man…but this isnt 2010 anymore. there were certainly some young dmen playing for boston no doubt he didnt a good job leading his players as always.

        again, based on the regular season i have yet to hear a reason why he couldnt be a candidate other than his name. you surely didnt give me one there. id say his shutdown abilities are quite adequate given his +33 individual rating and top 10 team rating.

        tired of hearing that im saying this because im a pens fan or bias this bias that. like i said, give me a reason why not and ill listen. his 21:17 per game are a little less than some of these guys. only legitimate reason i can think of and its minor.

  7. stepanup - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    I’m a huge McDonagh guy, don’t get me wrong. He’s phenomenal and had a great season. He’s not in this class yet though. Suter should have gotten a nomination over Chara. Regardless, this is Keith’s award, largely because the Predators couldn’t give Weber a little more help. If the Preds could score and Weber’s +/- and assist total goes up, he’s the guy. Maybe next year.

  8. lowenni - Apr 28, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    For me it’s close between Chara and Keith, but I think Keith’s offensive numbers will give him the edge. Chara may be slowing down but has to be given a ton of credit for remaining a rock on the Boston blueline despite them being hit hard by injuries, and mentoring the many defenseman who came in and out of that lineup. He had a great year and put up some really solid point totals as well. Weber had a fantastic year but I think them missing out on the playoffs will really hurt his chances. Congrats to those 3 excellent defenseman.

    A few snubs in my opinion: Ryan McDonagh and Drew Doughty, and my darkhorses: Matt Niskanen, Victor Hedman, Mark Giordano, John Carlson, and Marc Edouard-Vlasic.

  9. dboldave - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    You could make arguments for and against all of them. This is the rub in selecting winners of individual awards in a team game. I’m just glad to see actual defensive guys up there instead of guys who just put up lots of points.

    • ironyisadeadscene - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:20 PM

      Amen, no defensive liabilities who can only shoot the puck like Subban, Karlsson or Letang

  10. joey4id - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:07 PM

    No doubt in my mind that it should be Keith. This guy has brought his game to a whole new level. Everything he does, he consistently does well, and faster than any other d man in the league. I really don’t know how he can get better than he is now.

  11. bigtastegeno - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:13 PM

    Where is Matt Ni$kanen?

    • lowenni - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM

      He was great, but not top-5. Definitely proved he deserves a top-4 role, but judging by your “geno” username you’re clearly biased. He’s a very good defenseman, very underrated, but not worthy of a Norris. I did include him as a dark horse candidate in my comment.

      • lowenni - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:31 PM

        (top-5 in the league, that is)

      • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:45 PM

        just because hes a pens fan doesnt mean he has to be biased for thinking nisknanen is a good pick. you yourself said hes not a bad one.

        has as good of numbers as anybody and played top pairing most all year with a rookie. also, unlike weber, his team made the playoffs while he was playing that top pairing, with the leagues 7th ranked defense.

        theres not a whole lot of tangible reasons to keep niskanen off that list other than his name, lets be honest here…

        not saying he should win but talking about him as a candidate shouldnt be taboo or biased…in fact it should be welcomed. a real defenseman whos not there because of points and power play production?? we should want that…

        feel like i must end this with repeating myself…again, keith should win, and there are plenty of other good candidates besides niskanen.

  12. gnashty - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    Hal Gill 4tw

    • lowenni - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:42 PM

      Hilarious photo he took: http://www.hockeyinsideout.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/skillsy-tweet.jpg
      Love how his twitter handle is “skillsy”

    • flyerspsu - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:51 PM

      too soon.

  13. mellard1121 - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:16 PM

    Love chara as a bruins fan but I hope one of other two guys gets award they deserve it more this year I feel like…. I’d say keith then weber

  14. xdj511 - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:27 PM

    Poor McDonagh, snubbed from the snubs list!

  15. titansbro - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:35 PM

    Being from Nashville, but living in Boston I’d love to see it go to Weber or Chara. But something tells me it will be Keith. Happy to see the award go to a defensive defenseman though.

    But let’s not forget who Chara is. He gets a ton of hate on this site but I think if you took a poll of forwards & asked who they least want to battle against for 60 minutes most will say Chara.

  16. hawksin5 - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    suter got snubbed. Chara is the most overrated player in the league.

    • tlndma - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:12 PM

      Suter did get snubbed. I was watching Peter Chiarelli being interviewed, when he was told that Chara had been nominated He asked “who were the other two, Suter and…”. He laughed and shook his head when informed that Suter was not a finalist.

      Your second point is ridiculous. Chara is still the #1 shut down Dman in the league.

      • hawksin5 - May 1, 2014 at 3:25 PM

        ya as evidenced by his +/- last year against the hawks…….

    • pastabelly - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:28 PM

      Chara is not overrated, just overhated.

  17. drewsylvania - Apr 28, 2014 at 1:15 PM

    One thing’s for sure: When it comes to best defensive play, Karlsson and Subban have nothing on all three of this year’s finalists and plenty of others.

  18. imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    How known voters have voted so far…

    Josh Cooper John Vogl Luke DeCock Ken Wiebe Justin Bourne Brad Ziemer Dennis Bernstein Bob McKenzie* Ross McKeon Damien Cox Sean Gentille Haggerty John Hoven Tom Gulitti James Mirtle Dave Pollak Jeremy Rutherford Friedman** Spector Lazerus Jim Diamond Helena St. James Iain MacIntyre Stephen Whyno D.J. Bean Arthur Staple Shelly Anderson*** Ken Campbell Frank Seravilli
    Ryan Boulding Gary Lawless and Ed Tait

    * Revealed only top 3
    ** Revealed only Hart vote in order
    *** Only 1st place votes

    Norris (27 ballots)

    1. Duncan Keith (9-4-8-1-2) 173
    2. Zdeno Chara (5-8-10-3-1) 166
    3. Shea Weber (9-6-1-4-3) 152
    4. Ryan Suter (2-3-2-7-4) 76
    5. Drew Doughty(2-2-4-4-8) 72
    6. Alex Pietrangelo (0-4-0-3-5) 44
    7. Mark Giordano (1-0-0-2-0) 16
    8. Matt Niskanen (0-0-1-0-1) 6
    9. Victor Hedman (0-0-0-2-0) 6
    10-11. Ryan McDonagh (0-0-1-0-0) 5
    10-11. Nik Kronwall (0-0-1-0-0) 5
    12-13. Andrei Markov (0-0-0-1-0) 3
    12-13. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (0-0-0-0-3) 3
    14. Erik Karlsson (0-0-0-0-1) 1

    • imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:05 PM

      No Subban, that’s a large fall

      • drewsylvania - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:07 PM

        Can’t stand Subban, yet I’d take him over Karlsson. At least Subban tries on defense. Karlsson is a 4th forward.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:10 PM

        Ya so was Paul Coffey, but damn they can move a puck up ice.

        I remember Coffey well, complete useless in his own end without the puck.

        Gotta take the good with the bad though sometimes because a D man that can make those passes or lead the puck from one end to the other are few and far between.

  19. pastabelly - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:27 PM

    I’m a Bruins fan and can’t make a good case for Chara. He had a good season, but shows his age at times. He was very effective as a forward on the PP and that led to many goals, but you can’t argue that has much to do with defense. He’s stepped up his game in the playoffs, but this is a regular season award and Keith should get it. Chara’s nomination is great and should get him a step closer to the Hockey Hall of Fame. Weber will get one of these awards someday. As for Subban, he’s a puck mover and an offensive threat, but not very good on defense. I like the shift from Letang, Subban, Karlssson to the better defensive guys like Keith, Chara, and Weber.

    • c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:20 PM

      woah. objectivity.

  20. shutton83 - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:31 PM

    Any 3 of these guys would be a good choice. Keith blends good D with the ability to pass and score as well as anyone. Weber has a powerhouse slapshot and great offensive prowess with an improving ability to be an amazing lock down D, and lastly Chara has been great on the PP this year with him screening in front and there’s no denying that when he’s on the ice it’s to shut down the oppositions best guys. For my money Keith just had to good a year to deny but Chara is a close second and may even take it, Weber got hurt by the Preds having a down year.

  21. dontbsuchapuss - Apr 28, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Should give it to weber after all if he stays in Nashville he won’t win anything else in his career

  22. c9castine - Apr 28, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    the sky is blue.

  23. hockeyflow33 - Apr 28, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    I’m glad to see the award is going back to a defenseman

  24. slaugin - Apr 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM

    I want Chara (Bruins Fan) but think it will go to Keith. I’m actually good with any of the 3 candidates to win the Norris. This is the first year in a bit that actually has 3 all around top D Men, not just the flashy point getter.

    • theblakfox - Apr 28, 2014 at 8:42 PM

      Ya I like all these choices. Its good to see that the votes are going towards not only great defensive forwards, but taking into consideration some of the intangibles. Each player shows great leadership in their group. Heck, Weber hasn’t won one yet, just give it to him! They are all amazing.

      • theblakfox - Apr 28, 2014 at 8:43 PM

        defensive defensemen**….geez

  25. phillyphannnn83 - Apr 28, 2014 at 8:46 PM

    Damn you Nashville!

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