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Bergeron, Kopitar and Toews named Selke finalists

Apr 24, 2014, 11:31 AM EDT

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The previous two Selke Trophy winners, Jonathan Toews and Patrice Bergeron, along with first-time finalist Anze Kopitar have been named as the three nominees for this season, the NHL announced on Thursday.

Given annually to “the forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game,” the Selke was taken home last year by Toews — his first-ever win — and captured two years ago by Bergeron, who won in a landslide with 106 first-place votes.

This year, Kopitar joined the fray. The L.A. center played all 82 games this year and finished second to Sidney Crosby in terms of minutes logged by a forward; Kopitar also logged more shorthanded time than any of the NHL’s top-30 scorers and won 53.3 percent of his faceoffs. By being named a finalist, the Slovenian becomes the first-ever player in Kings franchise history to garner a Selke nomination.

Bergeron, meanwhile, led the NHL with 1,015 faceoff wins — the most by any player in seven years — and led all Boston forwards in shorthanded time on ice per game. This marks the third consecutive year he’s been a Selke finalist, as he finished the runner-up to Toews in ’13.

Speaking of Toews, he earned his third Selke nomination in the last four years by finishing fifth in the NHL in faceoff wins (884) and percentage (57.2). “Captain Serious” also led all Chicago forwards in time on ice per game and finished second on the team in takeaways, with 51.

  1. sixchr - Apr 24, 2014 at 11:35 AM

    Totally biased in saying it because he’s my favorite athlete in any sport, Bergeron should win it. I think there’s a legit case to be made for Bergeron and the Hart Trophy as well but it’ll never happen.

    • kaptaanamerica - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:35 PM

      Toes shouldn’t be nominated, it should be ROR instead. But Bergeron should win. That guy is awesome.
      Weber, Suter and Pietrangelo (sp)…. with Suter winning. That guy is a machine on D.

      • kaptaanamerica - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:36 PM

        *for Norris those should be the nominees

      • comeonnowguys - Apr 24, 2014 at 3:47 PM

        What level is Canuck bias affecting that? :)

    • drewsylvania - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:03 PM

      Wouldn’t complain much about any of these. But Bergeron is better than Kopitar defensively. Toews I’m not 100% sure about. Though it’s worth noting that Bergeron plays over 2 minutes less per game than either of those two.

      I’ll go the homer route and pick Bergeron.

  2. imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 24, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Bergeron has a huge lead in voting already, he’s already won

    • imleftcoast - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:13 PM

      I think he had sown up after the Olympics. I was blown away by his performance in Sochi. Great player, and I say that as someone who couldn’t hate the Bruins more.

      • patfanken - Apr 24, 2014 at 3:50 PM

        Kind of surprised to see Tyler Seguin mentioned for the Hart Trophy. I know he had a lot of goals, but the reason the Bruins gave up on him can be summed up by this stat. The kid who was the throw-in in the deal, Riley Smith, has a better plus minus, by far, then the guy with the 37 goals.

        Hard to believe you can score 37 goals and only have a rating of +16, while the kid that no one ever heard of wound up with 20 goals and a +/- rating of +28. Even Louie Erikson who had a horrible year (for him), and only played in 60 games had a +14.

        Maybe Tyler Sequin will some day understand that there is a lot more to the game than just scoring goals, and the fact he didn’t understand it, is why he isn’t a Bruin. But what is even more perplexing is that someone gave him some Hart trophy love.

      • hockeyflow33 - Apr 24, 2014 at 5:43 PM

        They aren’t really comparable because one guy plays on a team that dominated most of the year and the other barely squeaked in the playoffs.
        He was a +23 and +34 the previous two seasons with the Bruins so to act like Seguin is terrible is just towing the company line. He’s a player who didn’t mesh with the Bruins system, much like Kessel.

  3. imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 24, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    Results so far

    Hart (28 ballots)

    1. Sidney Crosby (25-3-0-0-0) 271
    2. Ryan Getzlaf (2-18-6-2-0) 182
    3. Claude Giroux (0-6-8-9-2) 111
    4. Semyon Varlamov (1-2-7-3-2) 70
    5. Patrice Bergeron (0-0-3-2-4) 25
    6. Anze Kopitar (0-0-1-3-1) 15
    7. Jamie Benn (0-0-1-2-3) 14
    8. Tyler Seguin (0-0-1-2-2) 13
    9. Joe Pavelski (0-0-1-1-3) 11
    10. Jonathan Toews (0-0-1-0-2) 7
    11. Ben Bishop (0-0-0-1-3) 6
    12. Alex Steen (0-0-0-1-1) 4
    13-14. Corey Perry (0-0-0-1-0) 3
    13-14. Gustav Nyquist (0-0-0-1-0) 3
    15. Carey Price (0-0-0-0-2) 2
    16-17. Shea Weber (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    16-17. Duncan Keith (0-0-0-0-1) 1

    Norris (27 ballots)

    1. Duncan Keith (9-4-8-1-2) 173
    2. Zdeno Chara (5-8-10-3-1) 166
    3. Shea Weber (9-6-1-4-3) 152
    4. Ryan Suter (2-3-2-7-4) 76
    5. Drew Doughty(2-2-4-4-8) 72
    6. Alex Pietrangelo (0-4-0-3-5) 44
    7. Mark Giordano (1-0-0-2-0) 16
    8. Matt Niskanen (0-0-1-0-1) 6
    9. Victor Hedman (0-0-0-2-0) 6
    10-11. Ryan McDonagh (0-0-1-0-0) 5
    10-11. Nik Kronwall (0-0-1-0-0) 5
    12-13. Andrei Markov (0-0-0-1-0) 3
    12-13. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (0-0-0-0-3) 3
    14. Erik Karlsson (0-0-0-0-1) 1

    Selke (28 ballots)

    1. Bergeron (20-7-1-0-0) 254
    2. Kopitar (7-10-6-3-1) 180
    3. Toews (0-5-13-4-2) 114
    4. Backes (1-2-4-13-4) 87
    5. Hossa (0-2-1-0-1) 20
    6. Couturier (0-1-1-1-3) 18
    7. O’Reilly (0-0-1-2-6) 17
    8. Pavelski (0-0-1-2-1) 12
    9. Stastny (0-1-0-0-1) 8
    10-11. Plekanec (0-0-0-1-1) 4
    10-11. Getzlaf (0-0-0-1-1) 4
    12. Steen (0-0-0-1-0) 3
    13-19. Couture (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    13-19. Zetterberg (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    13-19. Little (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    13-19. Vermette (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    13-19. Cogliano (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    13-19. Thornton (0-0-0-0-1) 1
    13-19. Palat (0-0-0-0-1) 1

    Calder (28 ballots)

    1. Nathan MacKinnon (27-1-0-0-0) 277
    2. Ondrej Palat (0-19-7-1-1) 172
    3. Jacob Trouba (1-4-4-2-3) 67
    4. Tyler Johnson (0-2-5-6-7) 64
    5. Torey Krug (0-1-7-3-4) 55
    6. Olli Maatta (0-0-2-6-3) 31
    7. Hampus Lindholm (0-1-0-4-3) 21
    8. Frederik Andersen (0-0-1-1-4) 12
    9. Valeri Nichushkin (0-0-0-3-1) 11
    10. Tomas Hertl (0-0-1-1-0) 8
    11. Sean Monahan (0-0-1-0-0) 5
    12. Seth Jones (0-0-0-0-1) 1

    • matt14gg - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:02 PM

      This is great…any update on the Vezina?

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM

        No sorry, it’s just a copy and paste from a user on the HFboards, I haven’t seen one on the Vezina yet.

        http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1648701

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:08 PM

        Safe to say we already know that Crosby wins the Hart, Nate Mac wins the Calder, Bergeron wins the Selke, and that the Norris is going to be really close with Weber still not having won the award.

      • imleftcoast - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:14 PM

        It’s probably not going to Fleury or Miller.

      • matt14gg - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:32 PM

        It’s great to see that Bergeron is getting his due (both for the Selke and also some MVP love), but I’m a little disappointed to see that David Krejci is not getting any recognition for the Selke. He is a great defensive forward.

    • jonnyhammersticks - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:54 PM

      This is awesome I didn’t know this was public info yet. Nice to see Bergeron and Varlamov get some legitimate consideration for the Hart instead of it just be a leading scorer race. Also wow no love for McDonagh! I’m very surprised by that but maybe that’s just because I’m a Rangers fan.

    • florida727 - Apr 25, 2014 at 9:34 AM

      I’m biased as a Blackhawks fan, but I’d pay more to watch Patrick Kane play than anybody on the list. Eventually I think he’ll get his due.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 25, 2014 at 11:16 AM

        Kane isn’t even the best player on his own team, not even the 2nd best.

        Your Blackhawks are a contender because of what Toews & Keith brings to the rink every night.

        Kane is just another Kessel, without Toews and Keith the Blackhawks are the Leafs.

        You’re just not bias, you’re wrong

  4. aldog83 - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:26 PM

    KOPITAR.

    • ironyisadeadscene - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:22 PM

      Loses because of this play

      • shoobiedoobin - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM

        No he doesn’t. One play doesn’t make or break a season for a player. I’ve seen Toews get dangled plenty of times.

        These guys aren’t actually defensemen, keep that in mind. We’re not voting for the Norris.

  5. rushledger - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Vermette got shafted being so far down the list.

    • thailer35 - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:20 PM

      And Ekman-Larsson for not even being on the Norris list.

  6. tyn27 - Apr 24, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    Ok not saying any other players are not deserving, but from watching all teams play many times and watching so many games this year, here is my list.
    Hart – Probably Crosby but I don’t think he is the “most valuable” player in the league. I think he is the best but that’s different from most valuable. And I am a big Crosby fan but I’m a realist before anything else.
    Norris – Suter
    Selke – Pavelski
    Vezina – Varlamov
    Many other players are very deserving for the picks but this is just my opinion on watching these guys play the game on a nightly basis with their respective teams around them.
    I think the Norris could/should go to Suter or Weber but they don’t play on the East coast, or for an original six team. If Suter would have signed with Detroit or somewhere else instead of the Wild he would get the recognition and praise he deserves and probably won the award last year and possibly this year with how he controls the game, and same with Weber if the Philly thing would have worked out.
    If Pavelski wore a Blackhawks or Bruins sweater I think he would win the Selke award this year.
    The Hart trophy I just don’t know about anymore. Who knows the definition of “most valuable” player anymore. And yes I have read the definition.

    • shoobiedoobin - Apr 24, 2014 at 2:49 PM

      No one should be thumbing this down. You nailed it.

  7. beepbeepbeeplgb - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    jaden schwartz will win this award someday. He is such a great defender. Don’t know the numbers but he has to be up there with most steals.

  8. shoobiedoobin - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:26 PM

    Kopitar is better defensively than both of them. I like Bergeron but Kopitar is better. Toews is the most overrated player in hockey. Hell, give it to Kopitar just because he doesn’t cheat on draws like the other two.

    In reality this should be Datsyuk’s award any time he’s healthy.

    • shoobiedoobin - Apr 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM

      Disclaimer: I don’t care either way. This whole thing has been a popularity contest for years anyway, especially considering the majority of voters don’t watch.

    • comeonnowguys - Apr 24, 2014 at 3:49 PM

      “Toews is the most overrated player in hockey.”

      I wish you would have put that first so that we would know right away you have no idea of what you speak.

      • shoobiedoobin - Apr 24, 2014 at 3:51 PM

        He’s treated like the second coming and he’s not even the second best player on his own team. He’s overrated, cry about it.

      • comeonnowguys - Apr 24, 2014 at 8:22 PM

        Let’s be clear: one of us is “crying about it.” And it’s not me.

        I don’t think he’s the second coming. But he has a pretty solid case for Top 5.

        You can go back to not caring now.

  9. flyerspsu - Apr 24, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Its nice to see Couturier already getting recognized as one of the best defensive forwards in the game at the age of 21

    Id go Bergeron for the Selke, but Kopitar imo is the most underrated player in the league

  10. hawksnation91 - Apr 24, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    It’s about time Kopitar get’s recognized, he’s been a excellent defensive player for years.

    I would like to see Toews take it home, I’m a Hawks fan, but I think it will be Bergeron this year. He has great stats and has been a force all year for the Bruins.

    • stratomaticfan - Apr 24, 2014 at 4:47 PM

      Kopitar did get recognized…that’s why he’s a finalist and his fans should be proud of that. But Bergeron is still the class of this discussion and should win.

  11. bwana63 - Apr 24, 2014 at 3:15 PM

    Blows my mind that Hossa never makes this list.

    • shoobiedoobin - Apr 24, 2014 at 3:48 PM

      Same reason Filppula was never acknowledged for his stellar defensive play-he’s not the best on his team so it’s extremely rare to get a vote.

      There are tons of great defensive forwards, but only the popular players get voted. Pavelski will finish 8th in voting but really he’s better than half the guys in front of him. Tons of bottom 6 grinders are WAY better defensively than Toews or Bergeron but no one knows who the hell they are. It’s seriously just a popularity contest. The voters don’t actually watch-that’s the fact no one wants to talk about.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM

        I’ll be the one to LOL at the statement that there are tons of bottom 6 grinders that are better defensively than Bergeron.

        Bergeron has speed they don’t have to get back into plays and the ability with his stick to steal pucks. A healthy Datsyuk has the same abilities, and you won’t find many bottom 6 guys that has both of those abilities.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 25, 2014 at 11:30 AM

        And they don’t win draws like Bergeron either, your statement was kinda true about some players, but when you get to the elites like Bergeron and Dats it completely falls apart.

      • shoobiedoobin - Apr 28, 2014 at 12:16 PM

        i don’t put as much stock into draws. if there’s a guy who is better at shutting down players but wins a few less draws, i’ll still take him. bergeron can win draws (and cheats a little, let’s not play the bias game and just be honest) but there are better shut down defensive players. just off the top of my head, drew miller or darren helm are better at taking opposing players out of the game and they’re both faster than bergerson (helm much so). they can’t win draws like him (i remember when wingers used to win this award before we all became brainwashed and obsessed with faceoffs) but they can shadow guys better than him.

    • imnotyourbuddyguy - Apr 25, 2014 at 11:24 AM

      It’s not like Hossa is going unnoticed, of the 28 known voters who posted their votes, Hossa was sitting in 5th behind Toews, Bergeron, Kopitar and Backes

  12. mellard1121 - Apr 25, 2014 at 6:51 AM

    Bergy has the best corsi rating of anyone on this list he won more faceoffs then anyone in the past seven years plays against the top line every game and starts more of his shifts in the dzone then the other two , so I don’t get how you can say hell win cuz its a popularity contest I think his numbers dis credit that theory , that being said the other guys on the list are all deserving and I’m so glad to see kopitar getting love and I agree with the other guy pavelski is an awesome two way forward and hoss should get more love too

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