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Video: Roenick says MacKinnon is more dominant at 18 than Crosby was

Apr 19, 2014, 11:56 PM EDT

When any player scores six points in two playoff games (and three in each respective contest), people get excited. When that guy is 18 years old and those two postseason contests rank as his first two games, the praise gets downright bold.

Maybe it shouldn’t be surprising that Colorado Avalanche wunderkind Nathan MacKinnon inspired Jeremy Roenick to throw the words “Hall of Famer” and “more dominant than Sidney Crosby” around. Roenick specifically compared MacKinnon, 18, favorably to Sidney Crosby when he was at the same age:

Out of curiosity, let’s take a look at what MacKinnon and Crosby did in their rookie years.

MacKinnon (2013-14): 24 goals and 64 points (+20 rating) in 82 games played.

Crosby (2005-06): 39 goals and 102 points in 81 games played (-1).

Of course, it was easier to hit 100 points during that 2005-06 campaign, so context might help. MacKinnon’s 64 points tied him for 34th in the NHL’s leading scorers while Crosby finished sixth in his season. Of course, Roenick would almost certainly counter with this: MacKinnon’s seven points already top the five Crosby scored in five playoff games during his second season in the league.

It’s one of those highly subjective discussions that can go around in circles, but the bottom line is that they’re both outstanding and that the Avalanche seem to have a special player in MacKinnon. (Is he the best rookie since Crosby? Well, there are plenty of talented players who would have something to say about that, including Crosby’s teammate Evgeni Malkin.)

In case you’re wondering, Roenick had 18 points in 20 regular season games as a teenager with the Chicago Blackhawks (and four points in 10 games that 1989 postseason), so he knows a thing or two about prodigies.

  1. Wineshard - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:06 AM

    Yeah Roenick is not known to exaggerate. Wake up NHL!

    • billsin20xx - Apr 20, 2014 at 7:40 AM

      The same Roenick who said during the pre-game show what Lucic did was all part of hockey.

  2. titansbro - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:07 AM

    Eh hold your horses there Mr Roenick. McKinnon is nasty indeed & I love a good Sid Crosby bashing but I’m just gonna go ahead & disagree with you here. Prisoner of the moment much?

  3. valoisvipers - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:08 AM

    What’s in the water in Cole Harbor?

    • sheckyrimshot - Apr 20, 2014 at 1:27 AM

      probably pierre mcguire with scuba gear, binoculars, and a jar of vaseline

      • 19to77 - Apr 20, 2014 at 2:10 AM

        As one-liners go, that was solid bloody gold.

      • 101starmymedic - Apr 20, 2014 at 1:44 PM

        Lmao so much win in one sentence

      • spoon9z - Apr 20, 2014 at 3:56 PM

        such a disturbing image but you nailed it

      • mackattack29 - Apr 20, 2014 at 7:06 PM

        Haha I want to virtually shake your hand for that one. Hahaha the mental image of it all is hysterical.

  4. lowenni - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:09 AM

    It took MacKinnon longer into the season to start putting up points and he didn’t have Lemieux mentoring him but he’s close. Crosby had a pretty amazing season for an 18 year old, 102 points. MacKinnon’s totals were great too but not the same. That being said, he’s ratcheted it up to a whole new level in the playoffs. As of Roenick saying it, MacKinnon is perhaps the most dominant player in the playoffs. His rookie regular season is not comparable to Crosby’s, but his playoffs so far have been excellent, and I would not be surprised if two years from now we’re calling him one of the top-3 players in the league.

  5. live4hockey - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:13 AM

    let’s see here…
    Crosby at 18 – 102 points
    McKinnon at 18 – 63 points

    …Yup, you got it Jeremy…McKinnon at 18 is definitely more dominant that Crosby was at 18.

    • pfhockey - Apr 20, 2014 at 3:26 AM

      Well only one player made 100 points this season where in 2005-2006 was a scoring frenzy, several 100+ point players and had 49 players with 70+ points where this year there are only 18 players with 70+ points. Nearly 3 times as much. Not to mention Mac had been playing on the 3rd line for a while in the beginning. He’s in full stride right now and generally, all the plays he made IMO are more impressive than Crosby’s. Just the raw skill. Faster skater, better shooter, and potentially better playmaker (making room and making plays, not just passing). This kid seems to be really strong too. He is incredible. He could carry the team to the cup at the rate he’s going. cutting through the D of a solid D team and making great plays.

      • live4hockey - Apr 23, 2014 at 12:16 AM

        He is very good and is going to be great, but he was not nearly as dominate as Crosby was when comparing rookie seasons. That is what the comment was, not the stuff you listed.

  6. Stiller43 - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:26 AM

    No real need to compare him to croz, but the kid looks like a BEAST

  7. muckleflugga - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:39 AM

    ooooooooh sacrilege … on easter weekend yet

    best not get within twenty feet of jeremy for a day or two … bound to be some lightnin’ … bound to be some pain

    don’t you do no travelin’ … fly in no machines

  8. govtminion - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:57 AM

    Not really sure I like comparing him to Crosby, but at this point I’m pretty sure we’re seeing the coming-out party for a superstar player. This kid is really something else… hard to believe he’s not even 19.

  9. pitpenguinsrulez - Apr 20, 2014 at 12:59 AM

    Really? More dominant than Crosby? Your joking right? Let’s see here Sid put up 102 with abysmal talent. Lemieux and Palffy *COUGH* retired before mid season and LeClair wasn’t the Philly version of himself. While the game has evolved since 05-06 to now, I wouldn’t call Mackinnon more dominant than Sid.

    • chinaski - Apr 20, 2014 at 4:34 PM

      He simply isnt more dominant than Crosby . The thing is not all of those guys who have a job and get televised do have to be credible. Many of them are just little morons and Roenick seems to be one of them. I mean give credit to McKinnon, he is a great kid, great talent but he no Crosby.

  10. Professor Fate - Apr 20, 2014 at 1:08 AM

    Three points in game 1 and four points in game 2 = seven points, no?

  11. tru2joelu4eva - Apr 20, 2014 at 3:46 AM

    what’s in mackinnon’s mouth in that picture?

  12. poconophlyer - Apr 20, 2014 at 7:35 AM

    Hopefully he doesn’t flop and whine like the greatest crybaby in the nhl. The nhl could use a superstar with some grit and character. Hey I don’t discount crosbys hockey skills, but I think all non pens fans would respect him a lot more if he just shut up, sta

  13. poconophlyer - Apr 20, 2014 at 7:37 AM

    On his skates, and act like a hockey player…ie Lemieux, Gretzky, etc.

  14. pone27 - Apr 20, 2014 at 9:41 AM

    The game is all not based on points people.

    While JR is my favorite player of all-time, so I am biased on most decisions/thoughts he has, I am not sure if its even worth trying to compare players at 18. To me, its pretty irrelevant.

    Being I do follow Junior hockey as well, and I watch these young kids that are high on the radar, I do have to say that Mackinnon is going to be a very special player, and if Roy and Co. do the right thing, this kid will easily be battling Crosby statistically in the future. I am obviously not a scout, so I am not going to guarantee anything, but IMO, Mackinnon will be a serious top player. The Avs better be sure to do whatever they can to keep Mac, Gabriel and Duchene on that roster.

    Side note: Another player, should he ever be capable of being surrounded by some sort of talent, Sven Baertschi on Calgary will be an amazing talent as well.

  15. hockeyfan763 - Apr 20, 2014 at 10:35 AM

    This good looks great but I won’t compare him to Crosby until he starts whining about every call and diving to draw a PP. You can’t knock Crosby off the puck if he doesn’t want you to, but when they need a PP he goes down like a 5 dollar hooker.

  16. atwatercrushesokoye - Apr 20, 2014 at 1:37 PM

    So in comparing him to Crosby does that mean that he’ll become one of the most overrated players in the history of the NHL just like Crosby? And yes Penguins fans it is possible to be one of the best players in the league and still incredibly overrated, just look at him being compared to Gretzky yet his individual and team accolades accumulated are more in line with a player like Paul Kariya.

  17. ctcork - Apr 20, 2014 at 2:04 PM

    Mackinnon is having a great playoff debut. He’s putting up QMJHL numbers in the NHL. I’m just hoping his old line mate Drouin can be a point machine for the Bolts next year. If Halifax gets knocked out of their playoffs he can technically join us, right? That’d be interesting to see his first NHL experience be a playoff game. Of course, it assumes we’re still in our series…

  18. 950003cups - Apr 20, 2014 at 4:41 PM

    Agreed. But can he do it every year?

  19. cutelittleguy02 - Apr 20, 2014 at 6:03 PM

    Hihihi compare to Crosby in his opinion. Lol

  20. mackattack29 - Apr 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM

    If he continues averaging 3.5 points per game. Then yes. He’s a lot better than Crosby actually. Hahahaha but I’m just hoping he can add in a point in every game and play the hard working game with speed and skill that he does so well. Plus with all his skill the points will come regardless.

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