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Torts calls Canucks ‘stale,’ says it’s not 2011 anymore

Apr 14, 2014, 2:30 PM EST

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In what may have been his last public appearance as Vancouver’s head coach, John Tortorella told reporters today that the Canucks’ core needs to change.

“I felt from day one that it’s stale,” said Tortorella. “It needs youth. It needs a change. … We’re not in 2011.”

(You can listen to the audio here.)

Direct as the message may have been delivered, it was no big revelation. In fact, Mike Gillis emphasized the “need to get younger, faster and stronger” well before he was fired last week as president and general manager.

The Canucks’ core is comprised of Henrik Sedin and Daniel Sedin (33 years old), Alex Burrows (33), Ryan Kesler (29), Kevin Bieksa (32), Dan Hamhuis (31), and Alex Edler (27). Kesler and Edler have been linked to numerous trade scenarios (the former more so than the latter). The Sedins are generally considered untouchables.

As for Tortorella, his future in Vancouver remains uncertain. The consensus is that he’ll be fired as part of new president of hockey operations Trevor Linden’s overhaul, possibly as early as this week.

Related: Linden thinks Torts misused the Sedins

  1. tronn25 - Apr 14, 2014 at 2:41 PM

    I hope you like country music Torts. I heard Nashville is awesome if you are into simple living and middle America.

    On the bright side, he won’t have any issues telling his players apart.

    • upper90cheese - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:00 PM

      Nashville would never hire that silly little man.

      • barkar942 - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:54 PM

        DelZotto must be poopin his pants worrying for his job if Torts goes to Nashville.
        Trotz for Torts. Got an interesting ring to it.

    • patthehockeyfan - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:30 PM

      Not saying that Torts won’t go. The only way he stays is if Jay Feaster is hired as the Canucks’ GM.

    • charlieconway96 - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:52 PM

      Now that I think about it, Nashville’s roster might actually suit Torts. Wonder if Del Zotto is still bitter about that stuff from NY…

      • barkar942 - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:55 PM

        I didn’t get down this far to see your DelZaster comment….

    • flash8910 - Apr 14, 2014 at 7:03 PM

      Wait, Trotz was fired because the fans were tired of the no offense style…did you see what happened to Vancouver this year???

    • kaptaanamerica - Apr 14, 2014 at 7:53 PM

      Torts is stale with his shot blocking bull. The Canucks just need some youth injected and for Kassian to be given a role in the top 6 next season along with Jensen.

      Personally I’d like to see the following:

      Jensen Hank Burrows
      Booth Kesler Kassian
      Daniel Matthias Santorelli
      Sestito Richardson Higgins

      Hansen is a moving part to be packaged with this years first for a real piece to replace Booth on the top line (aka Kesler’s line).

  2. bwayblueshirt - Apr 14, 2014 at 2:54 PM

    If they do fire him, Nashville would be a decent fit. Washington, maybe. It would be hilarious if he ends up in Nashville though. Poor Del Zotto can’t get away from him…

    • stakex - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:16 PM

      Poor Del Zotto if Tortorella went to Nashville? Uh I doubt that.

      Del Zotto has been a shadow of the player he was under Torts. Yes, he spent time in the dog house and even the AHL at times when Torts was behind the bench, but he also showed flashes of brilliance that have all but vanished this year.

      He’s still young, and has significant talent, but on his current trajectory things don’t look good for Del Zotto. Tortorella ending up as his coach again might be the best thing that ever happened to him.

      • moarjam - Apr 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM

        Agreed. MDZ has only played NHL quality hockey under Torts. He couldn’t with AV or Trotz.

        I like MDZ and think he will eventually work out and be a quality player but at this point in his career, he is best suited for the Torts-no risk-get it out-throw everything off the glass-defensive style.

    • thesportsjudge - Apr 14, 2014 at 4:37 PM

      Washington? Ovi blockin shots….lol

  3. blomfeld - Apr 14, 2014 at 2:55 PM

    JOHN TOASTARELLA ?

    Just listened to this on the TEAM 1040 and Torts was funny as hell, as usual. What’s really hilarious however is the way he keeps referring to the Canucks as ‘they’ instead of we ? It’s something in fact which he’s been doing all season long here ? … almost as if he knew from the beginning that he was only ever here only for a ‘good’ time as opposed to a long time ? Very strange yet very entertaining. Anyway, it’s essentially now a ‘given’ that this will be his final presser as a Canuckle and that’s a shame :(

    GO ‘GOOD’ TIMES !!! … TODAY, TOMORROW AND FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

    Blomfeld sidebar …
    the first ‘dance’ I ever attended was Trooper performing at Hugh McRoberts Gym one Friday night here in Richmond BC back in ’75 … great music, beer and lots of chicks that night ! … good times ! :)

    • valoisvipers - Apr 15, 2014 at 1:15 AM

      Hello friend, I had my hockey draft last night and you would be happy to know my first 3 picks were Koppy,Gabby and Williams. So, as you say Go Kings Go. They have a very tough first round match up the Sharks, I kind like that they will be starting on the road, win one of those and all their home games, sound like a recipe that they will have to bake 4 times this year.

      • blomfeld - Apr 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM

        RANDOM EXAMPLES OF ‘QUALITY’ HUMAN LIFE FORMS …

        1) Joey
        2) Valoisvipers
        3) Flugga
        4) James Johnson
        5) comrade Blomfeld :)

  4. stcrowe - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    I have never been a Tortorella fan, but he was given an impossible situation thanks to the blundering Gillis.

  5. joey4id - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Well! There’s another arrow shot at the head of Gillis. Keep going Torts…. You can spend next winter walking your dogs….. Wow! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

  6. canucks30 - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:08 PM

    Finally, someone in the Canucks organization telling it like it is.

    The future of the Canucks is Horvat, Shinkaruk, Kassian, Lack, Gaunce, Tanev, Jensen, Corrado, Cassels, Subban, and Fox.

    With a little draft lottery success and another bad year, maybe add a player like Aaron Ekblad and/or Connor McDavid to the mix or either Top 10 Draft prospects.

    Other than the Sedins, all current Canucks core players should be made available via trade. Kesler, Burrows, Edler, etc. in exchange for more quality prospects/draft picks.

    • canucks30 - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:20 PM

      The Canucks need to build a new core around the players I mentioned. Have guys like the Sedins and Bieksa bring them along for 2-3 years and then try to compete for a Stanley Cup circa 2017-2020.

      The key is making the right moves and being lucky. That’s the difference between how Chicago and Pittsburgh did it and what’s happened to the Oilers and Islanders. You have to be bad and be lucky enough to have generational talents to pick.

      For example, say the Canucks win the 2014 Draft lottery and pick Ekblad. Complete the rumoured Kesler trade at the draft for Derick Pouliot. Now all of a sudden you have to makings of a Keith/Seabrook or Suter/Weber type defence pair.

      It is possible to rebuild in a hurry.

      McDavid is the real key though. I think he’s a Crosby/Stamkos/Tavares type of #1 overall pick.

      • soro17 - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:54 PM

        Have you watched Pouliot play? He might get there, but he is a few years away. He makes Kris Russell look strong. His teammate Matt Dumba makes him look slow. For immediate impact, he would compare to Justin Schultz less 20%.

    • imleftcoast - Apr 14, 2014 at 5:33 PM

      He was brought in to develop young guys. Instead, he played the top 6 to injury, and just tried to make the playoffs. This comment is rich. If he’s auditioning for his next job, maybe we’re exchanging coaches with Edmonton this time?

  7. stakex - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:21 PM

    It didn’t matter who was behind the bench this year, the Canucks were going to have a hard time in the stacked Western Conference. There were already signs last year that the glory days of the current Canucks roster were in the past, and this year was the end result of too many years of complacency and negligence by Gillis.

    Torts wasn’t going to be a good fit for the Canucks from the start, however its 50/50 if ANY coach could have gotten this roster to the playoffs this year.

    • joey4id - Apr 14, 2014 at 5:59 PM

      Considering the Nucks were 23 11 7 at the half way mark I would say that you’re blowing smoke again, and that you have are clueless when it comes to facts. Torts lost the dressing room…. and it was downhill from that moment.

  8. muckleflugga - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    blomfeld

    great post … trooper, now there’s some memories … they’re still touring in some manifestation …

    my favourite album was knock ‘em dead kid … music great but chick on cover a dead ringer for my lady wife whom i met at nineteen at the u of c

    them was the good old days

  9. canucks30 - Apr 14, 2014 at 3:36 PM

    Live shot of blomfeld aka muckleflugga aka joey4id:

    Stop trolling every Canucks topic you boob.

  10. muckleflugga - Apr 14, 2014 at 4:04 PM

    canucks fans are hurting because their team got a thorough bag-slapping, after-which their coach proved himself to be a complete buffoon on national television

    there must be something in the water out that way, one national embarrassment after another … they just convicted three of the four charged with beating the one man who tried to stop the public mayhem in 2011

    the rest were too busy waving smart phones while police commissioned to keep law and order were mysteriously at home … watching the game and watching the riot unfold

    now that’s class

    as for flames missing playoffs, they show the most promise of any team in the nhl outside of red wings, who are themselves scary-good and deep beyond ken of the likes of john tortorella are the canucks’ shambles of an organization

    don’t get me wrong …

    i detest flames ownership after their money-grubbing effort to steal 20 million from federal public works grants so they could build private boxes for their millionaire friends … keep in mind the ownership group includes some of the richest men in canada

    schools were rotting and falling apart in the richest province in the dominion, but the standard conservative lie until your teeth bleed approach prevailed here in the land of the bastardized offspring of the great american republican whore

    now, the same leeches are lobbying for a new building for flames to play in as product of edmonton envy … setback when the floods brought a complete retrofit to much of the saddledome …

    i thought ken king was going to break down and cry … not for hurt caused by the flooding but because a carefully structured whine for a new building will be lost as the city of calgary tries to rebuild from the disaster while looking at prohibitively expensive flood remediation … billions are needed

    [ look at the candlestick park fraud for understanding as to what is really at play … theses vampires have their beaks in at every level ]

    the stink of corporate welfare begins at rexall place and comes south with every blue norther … these people are rich because their ability to rob from the public purse is one of the great standing traditions in the old west

    but flames will tell us how a few niggardly charitable efforts will warrant massive public outlay so hicks from the saskatchewan outback and northern ontario and central alberta and quebec should be paid eight million dollars to score nine goals

    have you seen the bigger piggies in their starched white shirts

    everywhere there’s lots of piggies living piggy lives
    you can see them out for dinner with their piggy wives

    clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon …

    • 2qswing - Apr 14, 2014 at 4:30 PM

      That is one angry muckleflugga

    • blomfeld - Apr 14, 2014 at 11:00 PM

      “You know, I bet that Flugga would be a great guy to have a couple of beers with eh?”

      ACHTUNG COMRADE FLUGGA !

      Friend, I bet that refrain has been said ‘many a time’ over the years by those who’ve had the pleasure of reading your electronic discourse here on the internets … good show, jolly good show ! :)

      • valoisvipers - Apr 15, 2014 at 1:22 AM

        I too would have a beer + a prime Alberta steak with Comrade Mucklefugga, he may be long winded but worth the read for sure.

  11. 950003cups - Apr 14, 2014 at 4:09 PM

    They would be in big trouble if they fire him. He’s needed in Vancouver. It’s not always the coach.

  12. muckleflugga - Apr 14, 2014 at 4:26 PM

    canucks30 is

    himself the embodiment of why many canucks supporters were and continue to be topic of ridicule and scorn … unfairly washing the city of vancouver and its otherwise knowledgeable fan-base with their chronic juvenile stupidity

    with blunted brains lacking capacity to post anything beyond one line rejoinder, often augmented by embedded html, they habitually claim dominion over any subject related to their team

    like their kind proliferate herein, they lack wit, they lack capacity for humour and they claim right to call their betters trolls, while often advocating the banning of those who offer differing opinions

    they are a blight

    they are the unintended and mistakenly directed ejaculate that would have served a better world by sliding unnoticed into the crusty and unwashed back seat of the gut-rusted 1988 torino hosting their conception

    they are of little consequence until they learn how to engage discussion with thoughtful argument, or in the least a measure of humour implying a functioning brain capable of supporting need to consume otherwise precious oxygen

    away with you peasant

    • stixzidinia - Apr 14, 2014 at 4:32 PM

      Says the guy who thought Gretzky “was sold like a slave”. LOL

    • canucks30 - Apr 14, 2014 at 4:34 PM

      You mad bro?

      • blomfeld - Apr 14, 2014 at 11:09 PM

        *** somewhere out in sector D with Panzer Group Blomfeld ***

        Blomfeld: Tiger one to Tiger two, over ?

        Tiger Two: yes comrade ?

        Blomfeld: Tiger two, blow that piece of junk called ‘Canucks 30′ off the bridge !

        Tiger Two: consider it done … hail victory !

    • kaptaanamerica - Apr 14, 2014 at 5:00 PM

      I don’t think i’d call Canucks30 “mistakenly directed ejaculate,” but yeah I agree he is kind of clueless with the McDavid talk. Only fools look to tank for draft picks that may or may not materialize (although Edmonton has it down as a science).

      why anyone would want to have a bottom feeder team for any number of years is mind boggling. Look at Toronto 1 playoffs (only because of a shortened season) in the last 20 years or so…. who wants that?? laughing stock of the league (along with Edmonton now after this pathetic season)

      I’d rather have a team that gets into the playoffs where anything can happen if a team catches lightning in a bottle… or rides a hot goalchie…

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Apr 14, 2014 at 5:27 PM

        Exactly, for every Chicago, and Pittsburgh (who only became good after they won a lottery following a season where no games were played) there are Edmonton, Brooklyn Islanders, and Florida as examples of how being bad every year doesn’t guarantee becoming a great hockey team.

        Frankly the Canucks are probably better off trading current players and getting multiple first round picks to add a few higher tier players than losing with the hope of maybe winning the lottery to get McDavid.

      • kaptaanamerica - Apr 14, 2014 at 8:01 PM

        @atwatercrushesokoye, looks like we’ve found some common ground here lately. In any case, the flames won’t be shiite forever, like the Oilers currently seem to be, with another top 5 pick they’ll be on their way to respectability soon enough. I’d rather the Canucks not have to go through that kind of misery. i’m sure Linden will succeed where MG failed.

      • kaptaanamerica - Apr 15, 2014 at 1:36 AM

        I guess some people would call Canucks30 “mistakenly directed ejaculate”…. considering the thumbs down on my comment about not calling him that…

    • machosasquatcho - Apr 14, 2014 at 11:05 PM

      Get a job, blomfeld.

  13. stixzidinia - Apr 14, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    Tortorella’s act gets stale within 10 minutes of walking into a room. He’s a typical 5 foot nothing blowhard with a predictable Napoleon Complex. This guy will always have a short shelf life no matter what room he’s hired to run.

  14. muckleflugga - Apr 14, 2014 at 5:47 PM

    stixzidinia

    wayne gretzky was actually sold twice

    by marginal owners without means to compete with richer men in the hockey franchise game … any hockey fan with a clue knows that to be fact

    nelson skalbania signed gretzky to the indianapolis racers of the wha as a seventeen year old … hoping to bring fans in to save the troubled franchise … the effort failed

    skalbania then sold wayne gretzky to peter pocklington and the edmonton oilers of the same wha for $800,000

    pocklington had earlier gained a half share of oilers from skalbania in trade for a diamond ring, a painting and a rolls royce used in the film the great gatsby –likely etymology of the term the great gretzky … all human and material goods used as bargain-able commodities

    skalbania had sold the remaining half of the oilers to pocklington before becoming involved in indianapolis

    peter pocklington then sold wayne gretzky to bruce mcnall for fifteen million dollars …

    at pocklington’s request, the deal would not occur unless it was masked as a trade to make it acceptable to the nhl … marty mcsorley and mike krushelnyski accompanied wayne gretzky to los angeles while jimmy carson and martin gelinas and three first round picks headed to edmonton

    only the truly naïve would believe properties in the transaction, outside of gretzky himself, were worth fifteen million dollars in the day

    gretzky was leaving regardless … pocklington’s borrowing had caught him up and the alberta treasury branch was calling-in their loans … wayne’s contract was due for renegotiation in a period when contracts were spiralling upward …
    he subsequently signed a massive deal in los angeles which itself contributed to salary escalation

    all of skalbania, pocklington and mcnall served time in prison for shady business dealings … i rather admired skalbania but pocklington and mcnall are in my opinion, criminal scum and lying thieves worthy of tumour-ridden lingering deaths

    pocklington is an anti-labour capitalist hack currently finding refuge among his kind in palm springs, last refuge of the irrelevant and desiccated rich

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Apr 14, 2014 at 6:13 PM

      There’s actually more to the WHA story, Indy had decided to trade Gretzky, Gretzky was put on a private plane with no idea where he was going, it was going to be either Winnipeg or Edmonton, while the plane was in the air Skalbania offered the Winnipeg owner the chance to win Gretzky over a game of backgammon, if the Winnipeg owner one he got Gretzky if Skalbania won he would get part ownership in the Jets, the Winnipeg owner declined and Skalbania then traded Gretzky to Edmonton for cash, was announced as $850,000 but was actually $700,000.

    • slysipops - Apr 14, 2014 at 8:14 PM

      wow, you must be jacked up or practicing to write a book ! easy ….easy

    • blomfeld - Apr 14, 2014 at 11:14 PM

      Stand down friend ….

      the reason why Gretzky decided to go to LA in 88 was to placate a pair of breasts known as Janet … nothing more and nothing less …

  15. moogro - Apr 14, 2014 at 5:58 PM

    It’s possible Torts may not even catch on with a team for next year. Vignault ended up OK.

  16. billiam55 - Apr 14, 2014 at 6:43 PM

    canucks never should have let AV go.

  17. muckleflugga - Apr 14, 2014 at 6:53 PM

    atwatercrushesokoye

    we could write volumes on the gretzky thing … i remember $800,000 but who really knows and who really cares … they traded men like horses and dog meat

    the miami screaming eagles cum philadelphia blazers cum vancouver blazers cum calgary cowboys were in the same mix

    jim pattison tried to get the cowboys into the nhl on promise the calgary exhibition & stampede board would bring in an nhl grade arena to replace the stampede corral …

    good luck getting anything from that bunch of right-wing hayseed rubes that doesn’t promote a mythical period of ten years in our history when there was an actual range populated with cowboys

    beat defenceless four legged creatures to death in an annual drunken orgy called the calgary stampede well … that’s a different matter

    of course the stampede board was too conservative –and still are unless it involves bullying free held property out of the hands of citizenry using the courts– so the nhl refused any accommodation for pattison

    yet, the hypocrites running the nhl allowed the atlanta flames to move into the same stampede corral when the proper breed of millionaire stepped-in to bail-out that failing franchise

    while anticipating a saddledome built on the backs of canadian taxpayers paying for the 1988 olympics, and subsequently the abc network who paid 500 million for broadcast rights to the canadian olympic foundation

    [ never trade with horse-thieves, you end up with dogmeat ]

    • slysipops - Apr 14, 2014 at 8:17 PM

      we could write volumes ?

  18. slysipops - Apr 14, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    TORTS is either dumber than he get’s credit for, or sly like a fox . if you figure your sure to get canned anyway, maybe yapping about how the team stinks and needs new players will make the management think you need a chance with a different bunch of soldiers ? the guy avoided being tarred and feathered and run out of town all year , so who knows!

  19. canucks30 - Apr 15, 2014 at 1:42 AM

    I think I grossly underestimated the number of accounts possessed by blomfeld. He’s pushing double digits.

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