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Weber sounds off after Preds eliminated from playoffs

Apr 9, 2014, 11:04 AM EST

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The Nashville Predators were officially eliminated from the playoffs for the second straight season on Tuesday — losing 3-2 in a shootout to Dallas — and following the game, captain Shea Weber teed off on, well, everything.

“Nobody likes losing. It’s frustrating,” he said, per The Tennessean. “I don’t know. I don’t know what to say. It sucks. I hate it. Everyone in here hates it, and it’s not a good feeling. Something’s got to change. We have to get better, and we have to find a way to get into the postseason.”

Weber is at an interesting time in his career. Now 28, he’s been to the playoffs on numerous occasions (six), yet never advanced past the second round and, since signing his mega 14-year, $110 million deal, has seen his team regress and fail to crack the postseason at all.

As such, it’ll be interesting to see what the Preds do in light of his recent comments.

With all due respect to Pekka Rinne, Weber is Nashville’s most valuable and important player. His name occasionally does surface in trade rumors, largely due to speculation of how much the Preds could get in return for his services and the notion that he’d welcome a move to a different market (somewhat verified by the fact Weber signed an offer sheet with Philly.)

There are already signs that Nashville is trying to go the extra mile for its captain right now. The team has been pushing his Norris candidacy hard over the last few weeks (see here and here), so it’ll┬ábe curious to see if GM David Poile echoes Weber’s comments about needing to improve the club.

 

  1. terrier92 - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:16 AM

    I advocated forever Bruins move Seguin and picks for Weber Oh well

    • nunan - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:01 PM

      I’m not sure the timing was ever right for that and if it was ever going to happen, it would have happened last summer, when the Bs had enough of Seguin. The Preds were not looking to use Weber as a chip then…and still aren’t. Seguin is the most valuable chip the Bs have been willing to use since Joe Thornton so if it was going to happen, he would have been part of it for sure, along with a ton of other pieces…but all just pipe-dreams. Scary thought though, I’ll give you that. Chara-Seidenberg-Weber-Boychuk..assuming Hamilton would have gone, too.

    • grocerystick101 - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

      When the Preds signed Shea Weber to that contract, they gave up the chance to receive four first round draft picks from Philly in return for their offer sheet. That means Nashville’s asking price in a trade was and is astronomically high, as in higher than four first round picks. I’m not sure the Bruins even had the assets to make it happen.

      • nunan - Apr 9, 2014 at 1:09 PM

        I think there is probably wiggle room there. If the Preds actually wanted to trade him, and Weber was unhappy, they would make it happen despite the ‘market price’ and rules regarding offer sheets, etc. Nobody wins if the player is unhappy and his salary is strapping the team financially. If it was going to happen, Seguin would have been the centerpiece and I assume Hamilton, since he’s an up and comer with a bright future. Then they would maybe have added pieces around that. But given the Bs interest in depth and the long term picture, not sure they would have done that. Some deals are just too much.

  2. thecheeman - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:31 AM

    “Losing sucks”
    “We need to get better”
    “We have to make the playoffs”

    Not to be a nitpicker here but is this newsworthy?

    • ibieiniid - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:53 PM

      seeing as how the news doesn’t ROLL out of Nashville, they gotta find SOMETHING to start a Preds Talk. them being eliminated is something. it’s better than if they just posted this:

      “Preds. Go.”

    • elvispocomo - Apr 9, 2014 at 1:17 PM

      When Weber speaks, you listen. :P

  3. dsonashville28 - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:32 AM

    It would help the Predators to trade Weber if they could get 3 top-6 forwards. However, what team would actually trade that combination for Weber? It would cripple them. Predators can’t get true value in return for Weber. Plus attendance would drop if he’s traded. Catch-22.

    • credible316 - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

      Nobody would trade for him with that contract.

      • bspray - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:45 AM

        That contract is front loaded, meaning he has already been paid the bulk of the money. It’s not that a team wouldn’t trade for him based on his contract, it’s that the Preds would be stupid to trade him now because they’ve already paid him the big bucks and the contract is reasonable from here on out.

      • sumkat - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:21 PM

        Philly would take in in a heartbeat

        They would not give up 3 top 6 forwards

      • sumkat - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:46 PM

        @bspray

        The contract is reasonable as far as money paid out. But it’s still one heck of a cap hit

    • lordfletcher - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:44 AM

      Would attendance really drop off that much in a non hockey market if a defenseman was traded?

      No knock on either Nashville or Weber but your comments a bit of a stretch. More goals is what most fans want. Bringing in top talent (forwards) would go a long ways for attendance. As much as drafting Jones makes sense, not taking Monahan or others was a potential mistake. Nashville has done great with d prospects in all rounds and is yet to develop that elite goal scorer. Either trade for or missed opportunities in early picks may haunt.

      Not that this would happen but Ovechkin and Weber package could really help both clubs. Again. That won’t happen

      Best of luck but its going to be very hard seeing as what division their in. Avs. Chicago. Blues. Wild are going no where anytime soon but playoff bound. Dallas on the up as well. Maybe a package deal with Winnipeg but hard to move in same div.

      • beergold - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:16 PM

        Weber would be a God in Winnipeg and we would be glad to have Peg ownership do what it takes to bring him here!

      • ibieiniid - Apr 9, 2014 at 1:03 PM

        Byfuglien in a Nashville sweater is a funny visual.

      • elvispocomo - Apr 9, 2014 at 1:19 PM

        I’d suggest it would. Nashville may not be a traditional hockey market but they do have loyal fans. Moving Weber would signal another rebuild or at least a re-tool and fans want to see success now I think, rather than a great prospect pool and future stars.

      • lordfletcher - Apr 9, 2014 at 3:25 PM

        Trading Weber would not yield prospects he would bring instant NHL caliber players.

        I completely understand what your saying but I to hope the loyal fans understood a rebuild is more likely at this point in time rather than playoff runs in the near future. Division is too strong for Nashville’s current roster to contend with over 82 games.

  4. freneticgarfieldfan - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:40 AM

    Lame comments from him. Weber himself is part of the problem: he allocates such a massive share of the cap budget.

    • girouxsalem89 - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:55 AM

      He is arguably the best defenseman in the NHL, that contract is absolutely on par with a player of his caliber.

  5. bspray - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM

    The Predators need consistent scoring in the worst way. The problem is, no talented, free agent wingers are going to sign in Nashville as long as the coach is going to demand that they put equal emphasis on defense. You can count on one hand the number of talented, high scoring wingers that are considered two way players. When the Preds get talented scorers, if they don’t play both ways, they are banished to the AHL (Forsberg, Beck and Watson as recent examples).

    Either Trotz needs to change his style of coaching or the Predators need a new coach. The team is loaded on defense and set in goal. For all I know, the forwards they have may be talented enough to score 30 goals a season if they weren’t so afraid of getting healthy scratched for focusing more on scoring than on defense. Either way, the Preds aren’t going anywhere with the system they are employing now.

    Mr. Laviolette, there is a David Poile on line 1.

    • jcmeyer10 - Apr 9, 2014 at 11:53 AM

      Or they need different players. The Bruins have traded away Kessel, Seguin and Wheeler yet they manage to score goals. They lock up the guys that play both ways (Bergeron and Krecji) and build around them.

      You are right in something (players, coach, system) needs to change.

      • bspray - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:07 PM

        I agree with you on Bergeron and Krejci and I would even concede Iginla is a solid two way player to an extent, which is a big part of why Boston is where they are. Now imagine the Bruins if Marchand, Smith and Lucic were sent to Providence or frequently healthy scratches for not focusing on defense as much as offense. You would probably have a hard time recruiting top offensive talent during free agency and I think that is a big part of Nashville’s problem.

      • jcmeyer10 - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:14 PM

        Yah, I would imagine the Bruins in a similar situation had they not had the success of the last few years. I would imagine the players would not feel comfortable in a situation like Nashville. Iginla has been a revelation of sorts.

        All in all, I just think you needed to add a third option for things that could need change. We seem to understand eachother quite well.

        Do you think the Weber contract is a legitimate gripe or just a distraction from the actual argument?

  6. elmerbrownelmerbrown - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    You could have been a FLYER d ~bag

    • thesportsjudge - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:31 PM

      That was his intent when he signed the sheet. Nashville matched. Calling Weber a “d ~bag” shows your level of intelligence, or are you calling the Flyers “d ~bag” since, never mind, I doubt you can comprehend why.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 9, 2014 at 1:09 PM

        “You could have been a Flyer D.

        Signed,
        Bag”

        he may have meant that. never know, he could be a man named Bag.

        nevermind, i don’t know what he could have possibly meant by that.

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - Apr 9, 2014 at 3:27 PM

        Keep giving yourself thumbs up D ~BAG

      • thesportsjudge - Apr 9, 2014 at 3:32 PM

        Oh Elmer, haven’t you figured out you can ONLY thumbs up once? Granted I have made some dumb/controversial statements(and probably will do so in the future) but it seems most of the commenters are on my side for this one.

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - Apr 9, 2014 at 3:36 PM

        Why would i call the flyers dbags for giving him one of the best contracts in nhl history and yes iam calling him a dbag because in this day of the high paid athlete he could have insisted on getting out but he was a giddy wirh the money and being the face of the franchise f em

      • ibieiniid - Apr 9, 2014 at 4:19 PM

        no…. he couldn’t have. once he signed the offer sheet, he opened himself up to be locked up by the Preds, despite where he WANTED to go. the offer sheet was him trying to come to Philly/lock in that paycheck. the Preds matching the sheet was Nashville making the decision for him instead. out of his control the very minute he signs that sheet.

    • elvispocomo - Apr 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM

      Don’t blame that on Weber. He signed the offer sheet indicating he was willing to go, blame Nashville for matching, or Holmgren for not putting together a good enough deal to get him from them. Gillis – despite just being fired – put together the best proposal to get Weber of anyone, a one year offer sheet that would have taken him to free agency even if Nashville had matched.

      • elmerbrownelmerbrown - Apr 9, 2014 at 3:39 PM

        Holmgrens deal made them give him one of the nhls best contracts ever so he can thank paul

      • elvispocomo - Apr 9, 2014 at 4:51 PM

        What makes you say that’s one of the NHL’s best contracts ever? The massive front end signing bonuses? The back diving final 3-4 years that take him to 40? The not all that insignificant cap hit?

        I’m 100% certain no one in Nashville is thanking Holmgren.

  7. 2qswing - Apr 9, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Shea,
    This is the hockey gods paying you back for smashing Franzens head into the boards 3 years ago in the playoffs, and the wimps at “player safety” not suspending you.

    • valoisvipers - Apr 9, 2014 at 6:10 PM

      That was not the Mule’s head that Weber smashed into the boards. It was Zetterberg’s head.

      • 2qswing - Apr 10, 2014 at 1:53 PM

        my bad. but you get the idea

  8. isphet71 - Apr 9, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    The Wings will trade you Datsyuk, a first, and a third round pick for him?

    Weber is beast and any team would be lucky to have him. I’m afraid Nashville wouldn’t get anywhere if they traded their best D, though.

    Nashville needs better depth at D and more creativity/offensive punch to get good. Their offense just isn’t dynamic enough and lacks consistency. It doesn’t scare anyone. Hard to say why – could be scheme, could be it doesn’t have enough speed and talent. Kind of reminds me of the Blackhawks before Kane and Toews and Hossa got there – good depth but no gamebreakers on the front end.

  9. flyboystransport - Apr 9, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    Seeing that voracek, read, Coburn and 2 1st rounders for weber was offered by the flyers I dont think the preds get an offer close to that at this point. His contract is too big and he has a limited no trade clause

  10. tmcgee71 - Apr 9, 2014 at 8:26 PM

    Shea, please come to Philly! Homer, please make it happen!

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