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NHL coaches give picks for Jack Adams, Selke, Calder

Apr 8, 2014, 10:53 AM EST

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NHL coaches don’t get to vote for the winners of the Selke Trophy, Jack Adams Award, and Calder Trophy, but it looks like there’s not a ton of disagreement among them when it comes to who should be selected for those honors.

In fact, the Selke Trophy, which goes to the top defensive forward, was the closest of the three to being a tight race.

In a poll of 16 bench bosses conducted by TSN’s Bob McKenzie, 10 of them said they would pick 2012 winner Patrice Bergeron. The Bruins center ranks third in the league with a 58.8% success rate on the draw and is a key part in Boston’s penalty kill.

Jonathan Toews, who is the reigning champion, finished second in the poll followed by Anze Kopitar and David Backes.

When it came to who they would elect among their peers for the Jack Adams Award, which goes to the league’s top coach, Patrick Roy captured 11 of 16 first-place votes. In his rookie season as the Colorado Avalanche’s bench boss, Roy has transformed the team from one of the worst in the league to a serious playoff contender.

Boston’s Claude Julien and Detroit’s Mike Babcock finished second and third respectively.

When it comes to the Calder Trophy, which highlights the rookie of the year, the big question is if Tampa Bay Lightning forward Ondrej Palat‘s late surge has been enough to challenge Colorado’s Nathan MacKinnon. The answer among the coaches is clearly no as every single one of those asked would give MacKinnon the Calder Trophy.

MacKinnon is the first rookie since Jeff Skinner in 2010-11 to reach the 60-point mark.

  1. slaugin - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    Bergeron, Babcock, McKinnon IMO

    • thomasvanek - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:46 AM

      Babcock? The Wings have a chance to miss the playoffs in the first time in over 20 years. I’m not saying it is at all because of the coaching, but it also hasn’t been the best coaching.

      • 3yardsandacloud - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:46 PM

        You’re kidding right? You realize Babcock is pretty much running the Grand Rapid Griffins out there against NHL teams every night?

        The Wings starters have lost more than 400 games to injury this year and I believe they are going to set a record for franchise history of time missed. Furthermore, it is a more likely that Detroit will make the playoffs as they have been red hot down the stretch and have a 4 point lead over New Jersey (1 pt over Columbus), for the one of the last two spots.

        I’m not saying you don’t know what you’re talking about, I’m just saying that is Redwing’s hockey knowledge must be somewhat lax beyond what you heard 2 months ago on ESPN.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

        then again, if he’s gonna stick with even Bylsma in the talks (i realize he wasn’t in the article, but plenty of mention in the comments), he needs a better excuse than coaching an AHL team.

      • valoisvipers - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:00 PM

        With the man games lost that Detroit had, the trophy should be named after Babock.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:26 PM

        I’m not entirely sure how to read all this, and I honestly don’t care THAT much, but if this chart is right, I believe it says the Pens have more man games lost this year.

        http://www.mangameslost.com/nhl-man-games-lost-chip-tmitt-april-8-2014/

        i don’t often stick up for the Pens, but the only reason I can see Babcock qualifying for this award over Bylsma (as far as man-games go, not coaching. please look what my original statement was before you blast me about not evaluating coaches by their… coaching) is because Bylsma didn’t lose Crosby AND Malkin while DET lost Datsyuk AND Z. they’ve both had a rough shake, yet the Penguins sit a nifty 17 points ahead.

      • drewsylvania - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:46 PM

        I’d heard the Pens have lost more man-games that any team, as well.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:49 PM

        eh, if the detroit guys want to believe they have had it worse they can have it as far as i’m concerned. pittsburgh definitely dressed more players and had more man games lost but i said it in another post, vokoun is counting toward that number so i kind of throw it out the window, he never had a chance of playing with his condition and it was non hockey related so it shouldnt count. plus he wasnt even missed.

  2. toiletclown - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:08 AM

    Bylsma, Bergeron, Maata

    • erbaker67 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:13 AM

      No way Bylsma or Maata. I love the penguins but both don’t deserve awards. Maata has played great but not the same level McKinnon or Palat. Coaches can be Roy, Julien, Babcock, Berube.

    • 11111111111a22 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:14 AM

      A couple curious choices there…

    • jpelle82 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:18 AM

      another slap on the forehead courtesy of toiletclown

    • c9castine - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:42 AM

      while toiletclown is a toilet clown, for sure, his picks arent bad and its stupid for you guys to criticise him for it.

      maatta shouldnt/wont win but i certainly understand his choice. its well known how hard it is to play NHL defense at age 19 let alone as well as he has done it. McKinnon though really seperated himself from the pack second half of the year.

      Bylsma? Everybody talks about how banged up Detroit is, Penguins are above and beyond the most injured team in the league. They have 50 wins, Detroit 37. Beat Jack Adams leader Patrick Roy the other night with a whole host of AHLers.

      I think Roy should win for sure. Just saying his opinions arent that ridiculous. Berube, btw, is a joke. Everybody got all hot for Philly because they turned around what was an absolutely atrocious season but thats more about the players waking up than anything. Berube was already on the staff during the beginning, and its not like they are one of the elites. They are 4-4-2 in their last 10 games and are just hanging onto their spot in the playoffs.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:57 AM

        you make good points on why bylsma should be considered if babcock is and how maatta had a good start to a very promising career…but…you aknowledge that neither will win so you’re not really giving any kind of validation to assclown who definitively put a stamp on them so that they were going to be the winners in his small little mind. would not have been such a parade of thumbs if assclown had said something similar or anything really of substance…but he didnt. instead he just made penguin fans look bad….again.

      • c9castine - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:03 PM

        yeah i am. i also dont agree with his picks but i dont see how hes making penguin fans look bad by naming two (as i stated and substantiated) reasonable candidates as well as a BRUIN.

        just saying pick your battles. you make yourself look bad when you jump on a guy because hes a pens fan and named a couple of Penguins, meanwhile they are legit candidates and he included a Bruin in his picks. thats all.

        besides, i certainly dont view him as any kind of representation of Penguins fans.

      • flyerspsu - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:02 PM

        clearly no bias here from toiletclown and c9castine

        The Flyers were terrible last year, this year then they went 1-6 in preseason and 0-3 to start the season and were a train wreck, Berube came in and changed the entire teams system and gave a calming presence that stopped Holmgren from blowing up the core which he was fairly close to doing

        and in the last 10 games sure the Flyers are 4-4-2, and the Pens are 5-5, whats your point?

        Berube is 40-26-9 in his 1st season, changed the entire system and turned around the program, to say the him being in consideration for the Jack Adams is a joke is a joke in itself

        id give it to Roy as well, but Berube is certainly up there

      • hockey412 - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:08 PM

        Bylsma lost some of my confidence this year. Not because of the slide, hell they do that every year. There is a control/motivation issue on the team that is apparent.

        Neal knees a guy (doesn’t matter what guy) in the head, comes back and cross-checks, or punches, whichever you see, a guy in the head. Lost shifts? None, outside of the suspension. Jokinen takes an offensive zone penalty and loses half a period. He has to be able to step up and mold these guys, not as a buddy, and not as a Torts, but as a Babcock.

        I still think he’s a decent coach. Coach of the year, though.. no, not in my opinion. No disrespect to him, but if I had my vote it be Babcock and then Roy. Can’t believe Julien is mentioned above Cooper, either.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:10 PM

        how is hockey412 the only one to have mentioned Cooper on this whole post? him or Roy, no doubt.

      • c9castine - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:27 PM

        flyerspsu i find it funny you accuse me of being biased and then go ahead and make the statements that you did. i didnt pick anybody from pittsburgh to win these awards.

        people need to learn how to read. instead you adapted my statements to fit your own desire to argue. because im a pens fan. get lost. there is nothing to substantiate Berube being a pick. Maybe I will backtrack a little, hes not a joke, I only meant in the context of winning a Jack Adams, I dont see anything worthwhile there.

        Again, make sure you read. I am not saying Bylsma should win. Not even saying he should be a top 3 candidate. However, he was able to post 50 wins while having 505 man games lost. Philly had 197. Think about those numbers for a moment. Furthermore, 404 of the Penguins games lost are from Injury, only 39 of Philly’s are. Basically, they have been healthy all year. Penguins have been injured before the season even started.

        Now this is basically all in response to Babcock as a candidate, which I really dont have a problem with, but after some thought and reading hockey412’s post, how is that 3rd spot not John Cooper??

        Anyway, Babcock is there because of his teams injury issues while still grinding out a solid season and making the playoffs again. Games lost to injury? 246.

        Arguing with me about this is stupid. My picks BTW are McKinnon, Roy, and Bergeron. In case anybody cared about that.

      • hockey412 - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:34 PM

        Clearly no bias from you, either, Flyerspsu, right?

        Actually I don’t disagree with Berube being in contention, he’d be a strong contender. Much moreso than Julian…just thought the beginning of your post and the meat of your post were at odds with each other.

      • hockey412 - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:35 PM

        *Julien

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:08 PM

        “how is that 3rd spot not John Cooper?? ”

        I’m wondering how much being the Tampa coach hurts his chances vs the coaches of the Avs, Bruins, and Wings, huge hockey markets. i try to avoid talking about the club a person is on as a reason they got different treatment from somebody else, but various team biases prove themselves nearly every year come award time.

      • c9castine - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:18 PM

        Haha, you know damn well I AM a fan of that logic. The club a team plays for means almost everything. People got sick and tired of the Penguins getting and winning everything. Draft lottery, first winter classic, back to back cups runs, several rivalry series in a row. sidney crosby and malkin and their scoring titles. Creates a lot of pressure under a bright spotlight. It turned a lot of blind hatred against the team. Now that things arent always going their way, they suck, everybody sucks, the fans are dbags, they got no shot, they are chokers. Yada yada.

        Rinaldo is another example. Doesnt matter what he does. Hell always be a dirty worthless player who shouldnt be in the NHL – to everybody outside Philly.

        An objective person can look at him and say he needs to stop doing stuff like he did the other day, but is more than a serviceable bottom 6 forward and plays his agitator role well by drawing a lot of penalties and ticking a lot of people off, making them think about things other than executing their system and playing smart hockey.

        Cooper is in no man’s land down there.. But he dealt with a lot of adversity this year put together one of the more solid records in the East

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:21 PM

        not to mention, he did it with Ben Bishop and Anders Lindback, not Varlamov. (uh-oh, here comes some Bishop supporter hate)

      • c9castine - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:24 PM

        lol, i support bishop i think hes the real deal but at the same time, nothing before this year would have indicated he would play like this for an entire season. so i agree.

      • flyerspsu - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:59 PM

        My point is both are deserving of some consideration for a nomination, you went as far to say Berube being considered is a joke and then went on about how little hes done, how poor the flyers have played lately (4-4-2 despite the pens being 5-5) and just undermined everything Berube and the Flyers have done this season w/o much reason, that is why i brought up the bias

        both deserve consideration for a nomination

      • flyerspsu - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:04 PM

        hockey412 yeah that is certainly understandable considering I went on defending Berube, the coach of the team i follow, but i was only defending Berube in the sense of how c9castine called him being considered a joke and then went on undermine everything he and the flyers have done while praising everything Bylsma and Maatta did, i took that as bias, moreso the Berube and Flyers part

        im not even saying Berube should be higher than Bylsma, both are right around the top 5, just thought it was ridiculous how high he viewed his pens and low he viewed Berube and the flyers

      • c9castine - Apr 8, 2014 at 10:59 PM

        i think your being dramatic there dude. i admit i backtracked on the joke thing, I simply think he is not at all a candidate. I brought bylsma up in comparison to Babcock, and then even said he shouldnt be a candidate let alone win.

        360 more games lost to injury +10 wins in my mind creates a decent amount of seperation between the two. that being said i do think berube is a good coach, however hes going to have to do it a little longer than he has.

        praising everything maata and bylsma did? hardly. nobody ever asked me that question.

        maata has a lot of work to do one on one, needs to tighten up his skating (hes a big young guy) and use his big body a little better. when i say a lot of work to do one on one, i mean a lot.

        bylsma’s lineups are questionable sometimes. he tends to go with mucekrs and grinders over guys who can actually put the puck in the net and play his system properly. at times, his team lacks discipline in a bad way. i do however appreciate that he doesnt turn to yelling as a means of disciplining and instead tries to get his players to think about what they are doing. also, while his defensive scheme has improved and the numbers back it up despite what a lot of people think, he needs to adjust how the team moves the puck through the nuetral zone.

        you and a lot of other people need to start taking my words in the context they are given. instead of telling me what my opinion is why not just ask? instead you just got all hurt because i shot down the idea of Berube, even though i have been on record in various articles in recent history as stating they are a good team and Berube has done a great job of trying to mature the philadelphia culture.

    • btlpper68 - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:41 PM

      Bylsma is a horrible coach, has Crosby malkin Neal Kunitz letang fleury if you screw that up your in trouble

      • c9castine - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM

        this statement makes way way less sense than anything else said on here.

        letang had a stroke, in case you didnt hear, and played 34 games this year. Malkin missed (will miss) 22 games. Neal missed 26.

        And I thought Fleury sucked, no? At least that seems to be the common consensus.

        Not to mention, he hasnt screwed it up. 50 wins.

        So please, tell us why Byslma is a horrible coach.

  3. jpelle82 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    i dont think any of these are even a contest this year. bergeron, roy, mckinnon

    • drewsylvania - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:04 PM

      Agreed.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:38 PM

        funny how i get 3 thumbs down but you get 5 for agreeing

      • drewsylvania - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:43 PM

        These are the same people who think the only player who has ever thrown a clip is Brad Marchand, remember?

  4. smarshall3789 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:38 AM

    Penguin fans are a joke always putting their people in there that have no chance of winning instead of showing respect around the league! God I hate that town that area those stupid fans acting like they are the best! I can’t wait for my Wings to beat you in the 1st round! Anyway McKinnon Bergeron and Roy even though Babcock could give Roy a run for his money

    • jpelle82 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:41 AM

      tell us how you really feel….

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:09 PM

        i have a feeling you wouldn’t like it… if that was the abridged version.

    • hockey412 - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:11 PM

      aw, man…most Detroit guys are classier than that, bro. for shame.

      Now, please – stop judging Pens fans by what toilet clown says – I don’t think half the people on here think he’s really a Pens fan anyway. And, half the fans on this site, of any team, do the same thing….even yourself, just now. That’s what makes us ‘fans’.

      And further – shut up, a-hole.

      • toiletclown - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:40 PM

        I’m a huge Pens fan, live in Pittsburgh and honestly think there is no better franchise to cheer for. Just think if you were from Philly, your best player is Claude Giroux. Our 4th best player Chris Kunitz is a better hockey player than him. I actually feel bad for those bums who cheer for that team.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:04 PM

        huge Penis fan*

      • hockey412 - Apr 9, 2014 at 9:10 AM

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:17 PM

        Toilet clown you are more of an idiot than your comments indicate if you truly believe Chris Kunitz is a better player than Giroux. First off, their styles of play are totally different and not really comparable. But I think everyone outside of Pittsburgh would pick Giroux over Kunitz if they were building a team.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:21 PM

        Ok everyone outside of Pittsburgh and the Canadian National Team.

    • toiletclown - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:13 PM

      We here at the best sports city in the world laugh at people like you. Detroits not good enough to be in the playoffs. See you next year loser

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:14 PM

        you remember how the Pens season ended last year right?

        so you should probably shut the hell up about who’s good enough to win the cup.

    • c9castine - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM

      listen to yourself.

      get a grip.

    • miketoasty - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:51 PM

      Funny, I’m a Pens fan and couldn’t disagree more with ToiletClown. I think that hands down the Selke goes to Bergeron. He is probably one of the most important guys on that team.

      The Jack Adams obviously goes to Roy. He took a team at the bottom of the standings to a team that deserves respect and isn’t one to be taken lightly in the playoffs.

      Calder should be pretty locked up by McKinnon at this point. He has been consistent throughout the year and really seems to be a stud.

      So, please go on about how “Stupid” all Pens fans are, and personally I think that any team (East or West) that currently sits in a playoff spot, has at least a chance to beat the Pens. I would say no team would be a “Easy” round at this point. We have a good team but there are a lot of shortcomings to be worried about.

      Oh and if you want to judge an entire fanbase on one or two people I would love to call all Detroit fans easily upset and whiners about things that other people say, always moaning about how terrible other fanbases are but instead I’ll continue thinking what I have been that the Detroit fanbase consists of a lot of passionate knowledgeable fans that understand the game since I’m not a closed minded neanderthal that can’t see beyond what they read on a computer.

  5. nhstateline - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:00 PM

    Claude’s done an excellent job with the Bruins and Babcock has done a great job with a really difficult set of circumstances and who doesn’t think Colorado is where it is because Roy has done a good coaching job but also knew some of the players they picked up on the cheap like Mark Andre Cliche and Max Talbot from his days in the Q. That to me is the difference, he didn’t just change the culture, he changed the team and did it relatively cheaply. He should win the Jack Adams for the combination. Bergeron should absolutely win the Selke. He’s the best, most consistent player on a truly excellent team. MacKinnon is a great choice for rookie of the year and Rask should win the Vezina given the year he had this year. Tuuka has shown he’s the real thing in a full NHL schedule and won several games himself for the Bruins the process. That said, Carey Price would be a good choice as well. He’s done the same thing in Montreal at times this year.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 1:17 PM

      are you thinking Roy had a lot of input into Sherman’s job? I’m not disputing that, as I don’t really follow the Avs well enough to know if Roy is that hands-on kind of coach, but picking up players and “chang[ing] the team” is kinda the GMs job. there’s another award for that.

  6. ntvd7 - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:19 PM

    How does Patrick Roy NOT win this!?!?

    He took that team from last place to the playoffs – In impressive fashion

  7. wishingtonredslur - Apr 8, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Babcock. Pretty much coached a farm team into the playoffs.

  8. phillyphanatic77 - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:13 PM

    It’s clear Bergeron is the top candidate for the Selke, but I hope Couturier starts to atleast get consideration over the next couple seasons. He’s been playing against the opponents top line for 3 years now (since he was 19) and has shut down some pretty noteworthy players. I remember once sequence in the most recent Bruins-Flyers game where he and Bergeron stole the puck from eachother in the corner about 3 or 4 times. But I guess he needs to get his offensive stats up to par, eventhough it’s a defensive award.

    Anyway Roy, Bergeron, Mackinnon seem like the easy choices.

  9. xx1111 - Apr 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Selke – Ryan O’Reilly leader in Takeaways with only 2 PIM for the year. Plays on the PP and PK is our best defensive forward by a mile

    ROY – Coach of the Year

    MacKinnon – Rookie of the Year

    yep im not being a homer either.. Avalanche have had a tremendous year

    Venezia – Varlamov should at least be a finalist since he has faced the most shots since our team likes to allow 40+ a night and has the most wins in the league and is top 4 in save %. PErsonally i think he should win as he has been dominate this year when no one expected anything from the Avs.

    Again you are probably thinking im a homer

    Hart – Crosby as he is the best there is.. could make a case for Varly to be a finalist here cause without him the Avs are finishing dead last

    • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:05 PM

      While you can make an argument for all the players listed you’re also seeing this entirely through an Avs lens. Ryan O’Reilly is a very good player but he’s just not the same defensive presence as Bergeron… yet. And Rask or Bishop would be my choice for Vezina, tho Varlamov certainly deserves consideration. You’re probably correct on Crosby, Mackinnon, and Roy but the Avs aren’t going to sweep the awards.

    • savoirlaire - Apr 8, 2014 at 3:50 PM

      If you are picking O’Reilly over Bergeron, you are not only a homer, you’re an idiot. That one is not even close…maybe in a couple of years, but certainly not now.

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