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Rinaldo to have phone hearing for Ruhwedel hit

Apr 7, 2014, 8:30 AM EDT

Flyers tough forward Zac Rinaldo will have to answer to the NHL for his hit on Sabres defenseman Chad Ruhwedel.

The NHL Department of Player Safety announced Rinaldo will have a hearing on Monday with Rinaldo for an illegal check to the head. It will be a phone hearing and that means the most he can be sat down for is five games. With the regular season winding down and playoffs on the horizon for the Flyers, a long enough suspension could eat into the postseason.

Rinaldo was assessed a match penalty for his high hit on the rookie Sabres defenseman and has a history. He was fined $5,000 on Feb. 4, 2012 for two separate incidents and then received a two-game suspension for charging nine days later. None of that will be considered by the league in his suspension, however, since it was over two years ago at this point.

Here’s video of the play from CSNPhilly.com from last night in case you missed it.

142 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. toiletclown - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:42 AM

    Throw this scum bag out of the league. Brings absolutely nothing to the table. Repeat offender, should get at least 5-7 games.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM

      “Brings absolutely nothing to the table”

      your mom says the same thing about you still living in her house.

      • 7mantel - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:48 AM

        Funniest post in weeks !

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:05 AM

        Hahahaha! Funny! This from the guy who would ignore what the greatest minds of hockey have to say about the game. Seriously! Rinaldo! GIve it a break. Rinaldo -13…. Yeah! Brings a lot to the team…. 2Gs 2As….. Great 4th liner….

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM

        you’re making it blatantly obvious that you’re just trying to start an argument with me. please stop. it’s 9AM on a Monday, I don’t know how you have the energy to do this week after week after week.

      • c9castine - Apr 7, 2014 at 5:55 PM

        ibieiniid…thats the kind of comment you are constantly criticizing others for.

        why dont you tell us what he does bring to the table instead of turning into a defensive teenager?

      • President Charles Logan - Apr 7, 2014 at 6:50 PM

        LOL ibienidd, you and i have had our share of words over the past year but I got to hand it to you , that was funny and spot on!!

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 7:21 PM

        And at 845 on a Monday no less. Thx president

    • ntvd7 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:08 AM

      That’s a ridiculous statement…

      He’s a very effective player when he’s skating, hitting, and not doing this type of thing

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:14 AM

        toiletclown’s ideas on hockey are completely, 100% ignorable. he hasn’t had a legitimate hockey thought since he came up with the toiletclown version of the dump and chase.

      • hockey412 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:34 AM

        I’ve been one of his biggest detractors for about 2 years, but I did see what he adds in the Boston game. Not just the Lucic hit, the game in general. I’ve seen him target the other team’s aggitators just as much as anyone else.

        Hopefully he’ll learn from it and reel it back in.

      • WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:24 PM

        It’s too bad there isn’t a stat for “penalties drawn” or “pp goals scored after penalty drawn” because I’m sure he’d be close to the top in that stat.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:45 PM

        there is:

        http://www.extraskater.com/player/33/zac-rinaldo#production

        Pen and PenD. he’s actually not been that great at it this year. I think he’s more about the intangibles than anything though. I don’t know why everybody is arguing against us Flyers fans as if we’re saying he’s the best player in the league or something. all I’m saying, personally, is that he’s worth a 4th line spot and does his job sufficiently.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:45 PM

        although i don’t know if I’ve ever seen goals resulting from PPs as a tracked stat before. but I don’t see how that’s any more than just a product of a good PP and good timing.

    • jpelle82 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:24 AM

      assclown obviously doesnt watch hockey and joey….man. rinaldo is the epitome of a 4th line hockey player, he’s the kind of sandpaper every team needs over the course of a season. he’s young though, so its probably going to take some maturity before we stop seeing stuff like this from him. if he wants to keep his job he will have to learn, hopefully this is going to be the one that does it. there are plenty of guys that get 5-10 pts a year that bring a lot to their teams, you should know better than that.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:13 AM

        You want to talk about how 4th liners play a crucial part in the team’s game? Hawks! Pens! Bruins! Wings! Blues! Avs! Now we can talk.

      • laxman1944 - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:26 PM

        Could not agree more “pelle”

        Coach needs to chat him up a bit 2 senseless hits in the last 5 games or so, He needs to reign it back in a bit.

        But when the kid is in the line-up he does make a difference and the other team always knows when he is on the ice…….at least they had better.

    • laxman1944 - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM

      FLUSH

  2. ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM

    it’s 2 games to teach him a lesson about jumping, and 2 more to teach him how to not hit the head. Rinaldo learns from this and continues his explosive style. he’s thrown 226 hits this year, only one of which has even been questionable. keep it up Rin, f*** all the haters.

    • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:48 AM

      The guy is one of the worse 4th liners in the top 12 teams, which only demonstrates the lack of depth on the Flyers. This team will not beat the Rangers… if they finish in 3rd place. They may end up in the wild card sport if they keep choking. 4-4-2 run during the stretch is pretty bad. To slow on D and lack of depth up front won’ get them by the first round.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:50 AM

        I know what you’re trying to do, joey. i flipped out about you always talking sh** about the Flyers before. I won’t do it again. i know what Rinaldo is and what he isn’t, that’s good enough for me. cheers, asshole.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:58 AM

        I’m not saying he’s not good at what he does for the Flyers. Just saying that what he brings demonstrates a lack of depth. Guys like Rnaldo come a dine a dozen in the AHL, and their shelf span is short.

        BTW, I don’t give a hoot that you flipped or not, and I never ripped the Flyers. My assessment of their D won’t change because you flipped out… so you say you did.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:00 AM

        Just make sure you come around when they lose the final game of the first round and start scheduling tee times.

      • hockey412 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:05 AM

        You know he saved this conversation in the even that the Flyers knock the Pens out of the playoffs, right?

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:06 AM

        no, what you’re trying to do is get a written prediction out of me so you can quote me later if I’m wrong. you did it on the other Rinaldo article too.

        I don’t go around trying to prove my predicting prowess like you do… just to only quote the times I got right later. the games are coming in a couple weeks, I’ll watch them just like everybody else does to find out the result.

      • narfmoo12 - Apr 7, 2014 at 11:00 AM

        Flyers have 6 players with 20+ goals. LeCavalier has 19. Any other team showing enough depth to have 7 guys with 19 or more goals?

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 11:38 AM

        Hold on there. That’s not depth…. That’s a balanced offense in the top 9 forwards. Depth is how well all 4 lines contribute to the team’s success both offensively and defensively. Are you seriously comparing the Flyers’ depth with that of the Hawks, Pens, Blues, Avs, Ducks, Sharks…. C’mon! Get serious if you want to reply to my comments. Look beyond your noise before you assess your team.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 11:50 AM

        narfmoo, the Flyers have the worse Goal differential of the top 12 teams in the league. That is not depth young man. If anything, that is lack of…..

      • narfmoo12 - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:13 PM

        Wow. So balanced scoring and not relying on the top line to score all the goals isn’t depth? You literally just used a synonym of depth to say they don’t have depth. Also, outside of those 7 scorers are Couturier (Selke candidate) and Raffl (rookie who has played on all four lines, played wing and center, and kills penalties). The Flyers also took the Islanders top defenseman and made a solid third pair with MacDonald and Schenn. Depth.

        Your move “young man”

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:16 PM

        “Are you seriously comparing the Flyers’ depth with that of the Hawks, Pens, Blues, Avs, Ducks, Sharks”

        joey, you’re the only one i saw that did that.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:00 PM

        narf, “So balanced scoring and not relying on the top line to score all the goals isn’t depth?”

        You’re twisting what I’m saying to make a point. Depth goes beyond three lines and goes beyond offense. Depth is the ability for all 4 lines to play o & d effectively. Flyers’ current depth is limited to 9 or 10 forwards and swiss cheese at the d position. Like I said…. Flyers have the worse goal differential of the top 12 teams in the league. Can you explain that? I’d love to read what you have to say.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:12 PM

        the Flyers have allowed 220 GA. that’s compared with 202 for the Ducks, 207 for Chicago, 209 for the Aves. that’s not even that far off, and includes their slump to start the season. you keep saying that their defense is swiss cheese, I don’t get where you’re getting that.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:33 PM

        ok! Schenn, Coburn and Grossman get beat on speed. Holes in the their d. Then if you pressure them when they have the puck deep in their zone they cough up the puck. You can’t just look at the stat that satisfies YOUR view of your team. You have to look at the big picture. Look at Goal differential and where they fit in the league….

        Bruins +84
        Blues +68
        Ducks +49
        Avs +30
        Sharks +47
        Pens +53
        Hawks +52
        Habs +13
        Kings +31
        TBL +18
        Wild +1
        Rangers +22
        Flyers Even
        CBJ +12

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:34 PM

        how is goal differential more significant to how a defense is playing than how many goals they allow? you factor in the offense to get a better picture of the defense? you’re grasping at straws here Joey.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:51 PM

        Not really, ibie. Defense wins championship. Regardless of the team’s offensive weapons, it’s their inability to play effective d that will deny them the chance to play in the SCF. If the Flyers make to the SCF it will be because their d has tightened up and guys like Coburn, Schenn and Grossman, and the 4th line play near error free hockey.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:59 PM

        nonononono you’re not doing that. you’re not gonna take stands like that then cover your bases so that you’re always right. you said it here like 100x. the flyers aren’t deep enough, despite their 6 20 goal scorers. their defense isn’t good enough, despite being within 20 GA of 3 of the top teams in the league in that regard. and their 4th line isn’t worthy of winning a cup, despite that being the worst reason to ever rule a team out of winning. are you ruling out the Hawks, Aves, and Ducks because of their defense? or is the limit for good teams’ GA right now JUST beyond where the Flyers are? are you ruling out the Sharks simply because they don’t have one 4th liner with more than 4 goals?

        none of the argument that you’re making makes any sense.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM

        and again, all of their season-long numbers include a span of 10-15 games where they were an entirely different team. I can’t believe I’m arguing stats with you anyway when I watch every game and KNOW that their defense is a playoff defense…. ALL 3 LINES OF IT. if you’re wanting me to compare to the Bruins or Blues or Sharks, ok, the Flyers d is worse. but since when are playoffs as predictable as you’re saying they are?

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

        Dude! Is today your day off? Dang! I gotta run. I watched the Flyers enough to know their weaknesses and know how to beat them. I pretty sure other teams have seen the obvious, and I’m more than I’ve seen. Every game I’ve watch we’ve seen mistakes from the three aforementioned d men which led to goals. The probability of that changing in the playoffs is very small. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. During the regular season most teams are fine tuning their their systems. In the playoffs they plot their strategy and tactics based on how they can exploit the weaknesses of their opponents. Makes sense that teams will be putting a lot of pressure on Grossman, Schenn, and Coburn, and try to make the offensive zone entries and their sides. hey! Don’t take my word for it. We’ll see what happens. Vigneault, Babcock, Hitch, Q are no dummies. They know how to exploit a team’s weakness.

      • narfmoo12 - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:32 PM

        Let’s see… LeCavalier got moved to the fourth line, and since then has scored 4 goals in his last 6 games. Raffl plays mostly on the 4th line, and has 22 points in 65 games and is a plus 2. Hall is always on the fourth line and is one of the top penalty killers on the 6th best PK in the league.

        You mentioned the Penguins as a team that has all 4 lines playing offense and defense effectively. The Penguins have 9 players with 20 POINTS (6 with more than 30), while the Flyers have 7 players with 19+ GOALS! How exactly are the Penguins rolling 4 lines that are playing offense and defense effectively? Oh that’s right, they’re not, and you’re just a troll.

        By the way, the Flyers are +17 in goal differential since Emery beat the snot out of Holtby. If you think the Flyers are the team that started 3-9-0, you really are as dumb as you sound.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:47 PM

        Hold on there a$$hole…. The Pens have +400 man games lost due to injuries… You could have at least compared your beloved Flyers to the Blues…. But no! Take the team who’s lost more man games than anybody else in the league. Who really sounds dumb a$$hole?

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

        YOU BROUGHT ALL THESE OTHER TEAMS UP! holy f*** you’re unreachable.

      • narfmoo12 - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM

        Wow…
        Craig Adams 79 games, 11 points, -14
        Tanner Glass 64 games, 13 points, -8
        Brandon Suter (3rd line center) – 79 games, 26 points, -5
        Joe Vitale – 53 games, 14 points, -1

        Defensemen
        Scuderi – 50 games, 4 points, -8
        Engelland – 55 games, 12 points, -5
        Orpik – 70 games, 13 points – 3

        …You said Penguins have everyone contributing on offense and defense. Quite a few guys not really contributing on offense and defense. I only compared them to the Penguins because they’re in the same division, and YOU SAID THEM!

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM

        narf, bad hockey IQ dude. You can’t even appreciate the year the Pens had in spite of all their injuries. They my friend epitomize depth. How many teams could have finished atop of their division with over 400 man games missed due injuries? Not many and certainly NOT the Flyers. The sad part is that you still can’t appreciate the Pens for what they’ve accomplished. Maybe if you get your head out of you rear one day you may be able to be objective.

      • narfmoo12 - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM

        Last reply …

        I never said I couldn’t appreciate the Penguins for the job they did. You said “Depth is how well all 4 lines contribute to the team’s success both offensively and defensively. Are you seriously comparing the Flyers’ depth with that of the Hawks, Pens, Blues, Avs, Ducks, Sharks” … then insulted me.

        I replied “You mentioned the Penguins as a team that has all 4 lines playing offense and defense effectively. The Penguins have 9 players with 20 POINTS (6 with more than 30), while the Flyers have 7 players with 19+ GOALS!”

        You then insulted me for using the Penguins as an example, after you used them as an example.

        I then showed you all the Penguins players who are showing two-way play at all, or even any play, and you insulted me again.

        Seems like you run your mouth, then are shown how wrong you are, and then insult that person. Brilliant work!

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:24 PM

        I never throw the first stone…. guy…. But will not back down when stones are thrown.

        Joey out!

      • c9castine - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:06 PM

        ibie, narf….

        i really dont think there was a better way for that insanity to end but with him saying “joey out”

        weve got a live one, folks.

    • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:13 AM

      That’s because your accuracy rating is so low that it doesn’t make it worth your effort. Written prediction? Everybody here knows what your prediction is going to be….. WTF. You think only I and 412 know what your prediction will be? Maybe you don’t have the balls to do so because you don’t want to be proven wrong.

      For me… it’s a game….. And I’m right with my predictions which is what pisses you off, and others. It pisses you off to hear the reality of your flyers.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:27 AM

        my “accuracy rating.” you’re the only person keeping “accuracy ratings.”

        but yes, reality, as predicted by joey4id.

        “Maybe Giroux is over paid with his $5 mil per/year this year and double that next year. ”

        “To make the playoffs they will have to finish about 7or 8 games above .500. This means their record for the next 72 games has to be in vicinity of 37 wins, 25 loses and 10 ties. They have to play 12 games above .500 over the remainder of the season. The math doesn’t lie, so, I don’t like their odds. Do you?” “If I were a betting man, I would bet against them. ”

        “it’s practically impossible for them to make up for loss ground.” “mathematically possible but unrealistic.”

        your track record on the Flyers this year hasn’t been that great either.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:29 AM

        you need to get a job or volunteer or something. no one should have the time to track everyone else’s predictions or previous posts unless they’re like 75 and retired and even then there are so many better things to be doing before you die. there’s like 30 articles on here a day….

      • jpelle82 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM

        *joey

      • c9castine - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:08 PM

        wrong about a certain selection to the canadian olympic team werent ya??

    • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:40 AM

      It’s not my reality when Grossman screwed up on the first B’s goal. Or when Reality! When Coburn got beat in side to B’s blue line to give up a 2 on 1 which led to a goal. Or when a B’s player blew by Schenn at the Flyers blue line for a clear break. That is the Flyers reality.

      Giroux overpaid? idk. Maybe. Ovi is overpaid. I would take Giroux over Ovi anytime.

      LOL! I thought I was the only keep track of accuracy rating. You have to admit that I was right again…. “To make the playoffs they will have to finish about 7or 8 games above .500.”

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:44 AM

        good thing you didn’t make that bet. you would have lost. so much for your predictive abilities.

        …and google goes a long way. “joey4id flyers.” returns plenty of results. no need to add it to any sort of database. that Excel sheet you’ve got going has got to be pretty impressive. well… not impressive. sad. but you get what I mean.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:57 AM

        LOL! Excel! Really! ibie! C’mon man! Let’s get serious…. You obviously haven’t read my post about how I use advanced techniques to find old quotes. I think it was kaptainamerica that asked. I can always go back and repost….. Only if you ask nicely though… ;-)

    • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:43 AM

      jpelle82, why? Why interject yourself into this conversation? YOU must have better things to do. “unless you’re like 75 and retired and even then there are so many better things to be doing before you die.” Stay out of this one.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:45 AM

        please stop saying “accuracy rating.” it makes me feel like a child for talking hockey at all.

      • jpelle82 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:53 AM

        you are looking for a fight apparently today though so you should welcome another willing combatant…oh wait….

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:00 AM

        jpelle82, ibie and I have a bro thing going on….. don’t get in the middle of it man. ;-) Don’t feel left out. We’ll get our time together in due time guy. Be patient.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:13 AM

        no we don’t. any kind of “bro thing” you’re feeling is a misread on your part.

    • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM

      dude! You actually replied to the bro think. That is funny!

    • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:26 AM

      bro/ibie, contrary to popular belief, I don’t get paid to blog, but I am being paid while I’m blogging. I do need to get some work done, so we’ll chat later about the suspension. c ya! ;-)

      • blackhawksdynasty - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

        News flash: playing solitaire on mom’s computer and doing internet reviews for 50 cents each is NOT a job.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:14 PM

        Newflash moron. That’s not my job. Try again.

    • steelpenbucs87 - Apr 7, 2014 at 11:04 AM

      I disagree with your reasoning, but end up at the same number. Knowing Shanny I would suspect its 2 for the concussion, and 2 for picking the head – that always seems to be the first two things out of his mouth in those videos.

      Rinaldo plays on the edge – and when you play on the edge you’ll occasionally go over the line. Every team has those players…. literally all of them.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:49 PM

        i can go with you on that reasoning. my guess was 4 games, I probably didn’t correctly choose the reasons Shanny would actually suspend though.

        you right. you right.

    • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM

      ibie, are you comparing Flyers depth with Sabres, Islanders and other bottom feeders? I’ve said it before and will say it again… measure the readiness and effectiveness of your team with those at the top. I don’t have a horse in the SC championship. You guys get all worked up because you get some unbiased and objective feedback from an expert. :-) YOU refuse to learn from the greatest minds of the game, so I don’t expect YOU to be objective and see the weaknesses of your beloved Flyers. I’ll admit when I’m wrong, but when it comes to the Flyers depth at forward and d, they are seriously behind the top six teams. I hope for the fans sake that management will address the weaknesses, otherwise the Flyers will be on the bubble at this time of the year for a long time to come. Your team is by no means close to any of the top six yet……

      Joey knows hockey….. ;-)

      • phillyphanatic77 - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:23 PM

        Did you seriously just refer to yourself as an “expert” and one of the “greatest minds of the game”?! Dude you don’t even understand the meaning of depth! The Flyers have depth. For you to say that having 7 20-goal scorers along with Couturier and Raffl (solid two-way guys) isn’t depth is completely asinine. And their D may not be great, but the one thing they have is DEPTH. Also, they have two productive netminders… depth. Not saying they’re elite anywhere but they’re deep. How could a hockey genius not understand this? Your whole argument against the Flyers hinges on their supposed lack of a 4th line (according to you), which is also wrong. Rinaldo is one of the top pests in the game. Adam Hall wins close to 60% of his draws, kills penalties, and even chips in occasionally on offense. Then the other wing spot is occupied by either Raffl, Downie, McGinn, or Rosehill… it’s a decent 4th line.

        This team consistently rolls 4 lines and 3 defensive pairings. They rarely shorten the bench. That you don’t know this indicates just how little you understand about the Flyers.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM

        lol everything on this page indicates that doesn’t understand anything about the Flyers and is getting more and more scared of a Flyers/Pens matchup. he’s simply trying to convince himself why the Pens will beat the Flyers…. since the regular season hasn’t done so so far.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:43 PM

        Relax….. not one of the greatest minds a la Bowman or Yzerman, Shero, etc… I can tell you one thing though, contrary to ibie and others I learn from these guys. Depth requires all 4 lines to contribute on defense and offense. No team with a goal differential of “Even” can say they have depth. Flyers have a balanced offensive contribution from their top 9 players. Very little from the 4th line in terms of offense and very below average in terms of defensive play. Every team in the NHL has to role 4 lines and 3 pairs of d. Otherwise they would run out of gas before March rolled around. So, thell us something we don’t know.

        We’ll agree to disagree and see how well they do in the playoffs. Hockey is a game of mistakes, and unfortunately the Flyers d men make a lot of them. Just watch the goals the B’s scored during their last game. And especially don’t look at the plus/minus because we all know that’s a dumb stat. ;-)

    • c9castine - Apr 7, 2014 at 5:58 PM

      1 questionable hit?? haha…im not trying to demonize the guy but come on…

      how about the time he jumped roussel? only thing that detracted attention from that was the thornton incident the next day.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 7:15 PM

        C9, hopefully you ended up seeing that I did actually give my opinion. And if you look at timestamps, I actually said 4 games on the 2nd comment of the post. Good call on roussel though. If I remember correctly, that was on a Saturday and I was at a family Xmas party… so I missed it and the replay slipped my mind. By the way, ive done my fair share of rinaldo-defending in the past. It never really works anyway. I tend to keep it to myself now Lol.

        Cheers

      • c9castine - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:15 PM

        I did get to reading something worthwhile later on, apologies. Still, I was hoping somebody like yourself would avoid the mom’s basement jokes, relevant as they may be. You usually have something good to say even if I hate it, and thats what this is really all about, not trading insults. Know what I mean?

        hold on now i gotta go reply to somebody who goes by the name pigeonbutt…

        i can only imagine what he has to say.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:51 PM

        I just really hate toiletcliwn with a passion. Plus, you gotta admit that WAS a pretty good mom’s house joke.

  3. joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:45 AM

    And there we have it…

    joey4id – Apr 6, 2014 at 11:27 PM
    Very objective observation. However, the seriousness of the injury will play a factor in the league’s decision. Tomorrow we’re going to read “Report: Rinaldo to have phone hearing for hit on Ruhwedel” Was this hit worse than Murray’s on Kosta? Expect at least 3 games and no more than 5 for a phone hearing.

    • blackhawksdynasty - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM

      Wow. You really are a pathetic loser who obviously has no life living in mom’s basement. I truly feel sorry for you kid. Maybe if you used your “special computer skills” on your resume you could get a real job like the rest of us and get out from under mom’s roof.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:00 PM

        blackhawk, LOL! Hey! I making money while I’m on here, though I’m not paid to be on here. Ha! Loser! Go punch your card, and be annoyed by your boss. Why the puck would I want to be like the mainstream bimbo that you are? All the little rats taking the train to go to the office. LMAO!

      • blackhawksdynasty - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM

        I AM the boss, dumbass, and my employees are not required to punch time cards – I don’t believe in them.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:05 PM

        Hahaha! Good for you. Boss! Now get to work. 💋

      • blackhawksdynasty - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:24 PM

        (Yawn)

        Get to work? LOL

        That’s what I have employees for….

        (And before you ask, no… you can’t have a job at my company. We are an EOE, but I have very high moral and ethical standards and expectations that you certainly do not meet)

  4. toiletclown - Apr 7, 2014 at 8:49 AM

    Get this hack out of the league before he snaps and goes off Bertuzzi-like and seriously injures or kills someone. He’s an embarrassment to the league.

    • laxman1944 - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:32 PM

      FLUSH…to the second power

  5. hockey412 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:01 AM

    Clearly will be suspended, clearly a bad hit, yada yada…look I’m no fan of the guy, but he made a bad hit and will pay for it. It happens – but we tend to get the pitchforks and torches out and focus all the outrage on one player until the next one comes along. And we’re all outraged and shocked again.

    But daaaaaaaammmmmmn some of the comments from the last article on this – from what I’ve seen Philly fans aren’t defending the hit, they are defending the player. No one’s hands are completely clean, it’s a tough league.

    • jpelle82 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:48 AM

      i dont like the team he plays for and sometimes i find myself wanting to punch him in the face sometimes…but…i like watching him play when its not against the pens. every shift is like watching a police chase on the news and the getaway car is approaching a busy intersection…you just know something is going to happen and every intersection he makes it through just builds anticipation for the next one. you want to root for him for the chase to keep going but then he does something like this and you remember he’s kind of a criminal.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:55 AM

        lmao alright, I can’t even hate on that analysis.

      • titansbro - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:55 PM

        pretty darn good post. lol

  6. zta7991 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:19 AM

    I honestly am happy that the flyers have gone this long without having a player suspended this year. I think NYR are the only other team in the metro who has not had a player suspended yet. It was a dirty hit but to say he offers nothing is a stretch. He is 2nd in the league at drawing penalties in the league and also has one of the highest amount of hits per 60 min played. He hasn’t had a hit like this in 2 years. So saying he needs to be thrown out of the league is just pure ignorance.

  7. sjsharks66 - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:54 AM

    ibieiniid what crawled up your ass today? You seem a little on edge. Usually your post are calm and collective. This morning you sound like your still drunk from last night. Haha

    Rinaldo SHOULD get 5 games. Looks like about 3-4 coming his way. Either way, glad the league is looking into it. But seriously, Rinaldo is just bad. He does not bring much to the table. I always had respect for him that he would drop the gloves anytime he was asked. Lost that when they played the Bruins. That’s about all the integrity he had. Now he’s just a goon who picks his shots, hits and fights. Boo!

    • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:58 AM

      I’m calm. It’s a Monday morning, and joey’s trying to get back at me for something I said Friday. it’s a bit annoying. i know he’s copy/pasting me, regardless of the fact that I never make predictions. w/e, he gets trollier and trollier (that a word?) every day.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:18 AM

        says the guy who copied and pasted the following;

        ibieiniid – Apr 7, 2014 at 9:27 AM
        “Maybe Giroux is over paid with his $5 mil per/year this year and double that next year. ”

        “To make the playoffs they will have to finish about 7or 8 games above .500. This means their record for the next 72 games has to be in vicinity of 37 wins, 25 loses and 10 ties. They have to play 12 games above .500 over the remainder of the season. The math doesn’t lie, so, I don’t like their odds. Do you?” “If I were a betting man, I would bet against them. ”

        “it’s practically impossible for them to make up for loss ground.” “mathematically possible but unrealistic.”

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM

        i’m talking about into your database, guy. you’re a creep. and you’ve become a huge troll. and nobody wants to hear your thoughts on fighting in the game. stop talking to me. you’re on toiletclown level.

      • blackhawksdynasty - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:53 PM

        Ibieiniid you hit the nail squarely on the head. Nobody likes joey, but sadly, I suppose he’s used to that reality.

    • goodolejr - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM

      He’s an energy guy, simple as that. And what did he do to lose your respect against the Bruins? Beat Iginla? Draw a penalty against Lucic when he went after Rinaldo following a clean hit? I’m sorry but why should a guy agree to fight after making a clean hit, especially when he drew a penalty for declining said fight? Just doesn’t make sense. While I agree with most that he doesn’t bring much to the table, having a guy with speed who isn’t afraid to hit (and has done a lot of work to keep the hits clean for the most part) is a good thing. Every team has them but it seems when they play for certain teams (ie. the Flyers) then they’re worthless. Seems silly to me.

  8. goodolejr - Apr 7, 2014 at 9:56 AM

    Definitely suspendable and with the concussion factored in, he’ll probably get close to the max 5 games. Even as a Flyers fan, I’m okay with this. He’s clearly done a good job becoming a better version of the player he was but you never want to see questionable hits like this. Rinaldo himself even admitted after the game that it was a stupid play. I’m going to ignore all the morons calling for him to be banned. Yes he plays with an edge, but as I said he’s done a really good job at cleaning his act up and not being detrimental to the Flyers and actually being a positive when he’s on the ice with the way he’s been drawing penalties. I don’t know how many “goons” would take a punch to the face and skate away to draw the penalty.

    Having said all of that, it is still alarming to see a lineup with both Rinaldo AND Rosehill and the Flyers better address that next week.

  9. puckmepuckyou - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Rinaldo is a different player this season. He doesn’t need to be a goal scorer to be an effective hockey player on this team. I do agree the +/- needs to improve . Bad hit for sure. Bound to happen when you play that type game. Suspension for sure, deserves one but not a scumbag player at all. He is learning to control himself. He is a wrecking ball.

  10. sjsharks66 - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    ibieiniid Im just messin with you buddy. Hope you have a great Monday. It’s going to be a long week. :(

    As for the Boston incident. Im not so disappointed that he did fight Iggy, im just disappointed that he turned down Lucic. Especially after NBC made it seem like Rinaldo conquered the world for beating Iggy. I feel like he picks his fights, when most of those energy guys say yes to anyone.

    • hockey412 - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:25 AM

      I was kind of glad to see he didn’t fight him. Big clean hit, ballsy enough to lay the hit in the first place…the fact that it irritated/embarassed Lucic made it all the better.

  11. buddysguys - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM

    flyers suck

    • goodolejr - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM

      Riveting! Insightful! 2-thumbs up!

      • buddysguys - Apr 7, 2014 at 11:45 AM

        Thanks its at 4 thumbs up now!!!!! I know that when i am looking for a insightful and smart comment on sports i look right to the message board!!! That’s where the real writers are!

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:19 PM

        idk if you noticed, but PHT comment sections tend to have further (not necessarily better) insight into the article. I learn a lot here actually, your post aside.

    • goodolejr - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:36 PM

      It was a joke. As I was going through the comments reading different posts, I thought it was comical that the last comment was something as simple as “flyers suck.” Would have been just as silly to me if it were any other team.

      • buddysguys - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:26 PM

        oh by no means was i attacking you i was just going with the comedic flow we had…

    • goodolejr - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:34 PM

      Aww geez, now I’m the jerk! It’s hard to tell around here haha. My fault!

      • buddysguys - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:47 PM

        nope all good!!! at least were not on here learning about Hockey like ibieiniid

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 4:39 PM

        lol wtf are you doing here then?

    • cofran2004 - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:21 PM

      Tell us more! Such thoughtful analysis. Why don’t you go apply to ESPN? Barry Melrose is getting pretty old, and there’s only so long you can go 0-for-15 picking playoff series and keep your job.

      • buddysguys - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM

        sorry im straight to the point no sugar coating with my reports. I know when i see a team that sucks and they are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.

      • cofran2004 - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:16 PM

        …Except almost half the league has less points than them. Oops.

      • buddysguys - Apr 7, 2014 at 4:28 PM

        OOOOhhh we have a standing guy. #Analytics

        Doesnt take away from the fact that they suck.

      • cofran2004 - Apr 8, 2014 at 11:42 AM

        Your point was that they suck more than anyone. I just pointed out how very wrong you were. I’m not even a flyers fan… you’re just wrong :-p

  12. antmel30 - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:55 AM

    Joey4id guys like you have never played or know the game of hockey. Just because you watch hockey a lot on tv doesn’t make you an expert on the make of a team. If you have ever been apart of a team you realize the importance of an energy guy on every team. Every team in the nhl has an energy guy. A hit or fight could turn game around it’s how the game is played. The bruins have Thornton, pens have guys like glass and vitali or England. The rangers have Boyle ect.. There are many teams who have guys that could be replaced by a more skilled forward but they would not provide the spark you need that the energy guy would when team is down or flat and didn’t show up to play. Energy guys build trust and bond team by sticking up for any teammate and doing whatever it takes to get team going. Most of the guys do take penalties or cross the line. It’s hockey it’s always been hockey. I hate these fair weather fans who call them goons or say they don’t belong in hockey or call the flyers fans ignorant for supporting the broad street bully hockey that made flyers famous. Guys like Reinaldo have nothing to do with the broad street bully mentality. It’s all about getting the team going. Their place in the sport is warranted. Without goons as people would call them in hockey who will stick up for guys like Crosby or Giroux or any star on any nhl team. There would still be hits like Ronaldo’s no matter if guys like him would be in the league or not the problem would be there would be no policing for the hit and stars would be less protected. Maybe my opinion is wrong about the last couple sentences but I just can’t stand people who make comments about energy guys when they have never been on a hockey team or played to realize the importance of them in the gym and on a team.

    • toiletclown - Apr 7, 2014 at 11:26 AM

      How many times can one person misspell Rinaldo in 1 rant.

      • buddysguys - Apr 7, 2014 at 11:47 AM

        i thought his rant was about soccer star Ronaldo…..who funny enough is probably better than Rinaldo at hockey.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM

        how many can YOU post without ever saying anything?

      • laxman1944 - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:35 PM

        FLUSH……To the third power

      • cofran2004 - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM

        How many times did your mother attack you with a coat-hanger in the womb only to have your dumb ass survive?

      • laxman1944 - Apr 7, 2014 at 7:47 PM

        5………why??

    • ironyisadeadscene - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:45 PM

      Mr. Antmel30, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

      • goodolejr - Apr 7, 2014 at 1:54 PM

        I don’t know, I completely understand the point he was making. Yeah he rambled and yes he comically misspelled Rinaldo twice (two DIFFERENT spellings too) but he got his point across overall.

  13. President Charles Logan - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:39 PM

    Joey you’re creepy … you must have a whole slew of folders where you actually save and store people’s quotes on here , probably from months and years back. Get a hobby, or try getting a job sometime… you dont always wanna be this low on the Food Chain now do ya?

    • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 12:51 PM

      he’s got binders upon binders full of men.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM

        LOL! Is that a Freudian slip ibie? :-)

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:48 PM

        is that a gay joke? classy. I’m talking about how you document our comments (mostly men) in folders, or binders.

    • laxman1944 - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:16 PM

      “It puts the lotion in the basket”……

    • blackhawksdynasty - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:20 PM

      Seems he’s perfectly happy doing online surveys and reviews from mom’s computer. Not exactly CFO material, but to each his own.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:11 PM

        Hey! I’m the boss! CEO dude.

  14. skr213 - Apr 7, 2014 at 2:28 PM

    I’m not sure why this is just a phone hearing. He’s a repeat offender. He left his feet. The hit was directed at the head. The victim has a concussion. Seems like if the NHL is being consistent, this should be an in person hearing with more than just 5 games.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM

      probably just because of that first sentence there. I’ve heard (i think in the novel that is this article’s comment section) that you have to have had an incident within the past 18 months to be considered a “repeat offender.” that’s probably the determining clause as to why just a phone hearing.

      • toiletclown - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:19 PM

        This Rinaldo character is what’s wrong with the NHL today. The sooner they ban thugs like this the better the game will be. Do the right thing Shanahan

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 4:02 PM

        look, he ALMOST made a legitimate thought. not yet though guys. one day he’ll realize that trolling PHT gets no results. until then, we get uninformed sh** like this.

      • joey4id - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:20 PM

        No guessing…. Directly from the CBA boys. (and my mother’s computer in her basement)

        (d) status as a “first” or “repeat” offender shall be re-determined every eighteen (18) months on a rolling basis. For example, where a Player is suspended for the first time, he becomes a repeat offender if he is suspended again within eighteen (18) months of the first incident. If he does not have another suspension within eighteen (18) months of the first incident, his next suspension will be treated as a “first” offense.

      • skr213 - Apr 7, 2014 at 4:35 PM

        Fair enough. Even without technically being a repeat offender, seems like consistency with some suspensions earlier in the season would warrant an in-person.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 4:36 PM

        wheel of justice, my friend. it’s the wheel of justice

        http://www.nhlwheelofjustice.com/

  15. djshnooks - Apr 7, 2014 at 3:26 PM

    Too bad John Scott didn’t get to smash that punks teeth out and sweep the ice with his bloody face.

    • ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 4:03 PM

      oh man, your team is so tough. you have a big guy that nobody wants to mess with. what’s the Sabres record again?

  16. muckleflugga - Apr 7, 2014 at 5:11 PM

    and here we are ladies and gentleman with our featured bout this morning… a featherweight tilt between longstanding antagonists

    in this corner wearing rainbow trunks and sporting spatulated fingers and coke bottle spectacles coated with cheetos dust we have self-proclaimed and notorious self-quoting hockey authority … the mashugana mauler … joey4id

    [ smattering of applause intermingled with jeers erupting into raucous hooting amid clatter of emptying sterno cans ]

    and in thisssss corner wearing a fabulous ensemble of orange spandex highlighting a spectacular rhinestone flyers logo traced in glitter dust we have notorious self-quoting hockey authority … sugar gay ibieiniid

    roaring applause drowning the whisper of beluga caviar and mum’s being inhaled through cultured yet ravenous snouts …

    as they shake hands before retreating to their corners some background for our viewers here …

    it would appear joe has a bit of a snarl on this morning … while wandering through the canyons of hockey news and popular mechanics magazines overwhelming his snug yet frumpy bedsitter, joey discovered he’ll be needing to rent more warehouse space to store this season’s printed in triplicate pht quotes and predictions –not easy for a single man only able to draw welfare in eight counties and

    not to be outdone ibby arrived in a rare foul humour suffering a gin-drunk hang-over after discovering his lady wife coming home at three in the morning with her pantyhose inside out and wearing miss-matched ruby stilettos –one felt one patent one in her size and one in a man’s …?

    let’s get ready to rum baaaaaaaaaaal

    • blackhawksdynasty - Apr 7, 2014 at 10:29 PM

      ^^^Holy crap that was funny^^^

      Bravo, muckle. Bravo.

      • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:29 AM

        seriously.

  17. muckleflugga - Apr 7, 2014 at 6:24 PM

    four games …?

  18. ibieiniid - Apr 7, 2014 at 7:04 PM

    I still couldn’t not laugh reading a classic muggle… even if I was gay in it.

    but ya, Mondays and Fridays tend to be a little slow as far as work goes.

  19. muckleflugga - Apr 7, 2014 at 7:47 PM

    ibieiniid

    gay as in a joyful spirit enriching our lives herein

    ya big numpty

    • ibieiniid - Apr 8, 2014 at 8:30 AM

      i do, however, take offense to “self-quoting.” i don’t do that, do I?

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