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PHT Extra: On the one-dimensional Alex Ovechkin, and what Oates should do

Apr 3, 2014, 5:27 PM EDT

Halford calls Alex Ovechkin a “one-dimensional player,” but in the nicest way possible. Brough implores the coach to stop playing the NHL’s top goal-scorer with a guy who has 14 career assists.

Plus, a couple of games you should watch this weekend.

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  1. nunan - Apr 3, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    Ovechkin is what he is…a stud on offense. A big, strong, aggressive forward. Put a team around him that is more well-rounded. Needs to be changes there..a change in culture…meaning a change in personnel on the ice and in the front office. Otherwise, they’ll continue to be a fringe team. Everything really comes down to management accepting change.

    • joey4id - Apr 3, 2014 at 6:11 PM

      And why can’t Ovi become “more well-rounded”? Would that not help him become a more complete player? What’s the problem with being more responsible defensively when your team is on the other side of the puck? Is it that difficult to back check all the way to the d zone for starters? No one expects him to win the Selke. Heck! No one expects the best offensive player on any team to win the Selke, but…. C’mon!

      • goodolejr - Apr 3, 2014 at 6:19 PM

        The biggest thing for me is the fact that he’s the CAPTAIN of the team. If he wasn’t the captain, then whatever, bring guys in who can play defense and let him stand around the faceoff dot in the offensive zone and then right outside the blueline when the puck is in the Caps’ zone. Of course he should want to be a more complete player anyway but it’s especially a big deal since he’s supposed to be the leader of the team. Seems to me he’s doing a good job leading them…just not in a way that is productive to winning a cup.

      • nunan - Apr 3, 2014 at 6:46 PM

        You’re over-simplifying it by asking “is it that difficult to backcheck?”. It’s not always about just skating as hard as you can to the defensive zone. But anyway, Ovi can become more well-rounded if he wants. He should. But that is not going to fix the Caps. People should stop focusing only on him just bc he is the superstar caption and focus on the rest of the glaring problems they have. One player doesn’t cut it and one player has never won the cup. And when it comes down to it, the guy is a generational talent. You play to his strengths. If they could play defense and Ovi is putting up 50 goals, they’ll be in the mix. The whole teams needs a revamp. I am not saying to tear it down but big changes need to be made. They’ve been trying with the group for too long and it’s not working. i mentioned changes and maybe that includes giving someone else the C. Not really the captain-type IMO. All the Ovechkin crying from people is overdone and completely missing the real issues. I also think he would play a better, all around game if the team didn’t crap the bed every year. Clearly not working.

    • joey4id - Apr 3, 2014 at 6:58 PM

      I think you’re under estimating the negative effect he’s having on the team dynamics. Ovi is currently part of the problem as others are. Unless he changes he’ll never part of the solution. With a huge contract come big responsibility which he had not accomplished. To understand you would have to be involved in hockey at a very competitve level or at least learned from those have.

      • c9castine - Apr 3, 2014 at 8:55 PM

        instead of expecting him to change after 8 years why not build different pieces around him and stop acting like he is captain and leader of the ship because thats just not his personality.

        playing hockey at a very high level is like, the go to dbag comment. if you have, trust me your not the only one, and i dont see what having played junior hockey would tell me about big contracts and responsibility or for that matter playing hockey in the NHL in general

      • joey4id - Apr 3, 2014 at 9:15 PM

        u left out the moat important “at least learned from those who have”.

        why would you want to build a house on a bad foundation? why build a team around a player who is lazy, has a low hockey IQ, and only thinks of scoring? bad foundation to build….. sorry. u too don’t get it. btw, playing junior is not the end all…. what’s more important is what you do after.

      • nunan - Apr 4, 2014 at 6:18 AM

        I disagree. Youre basically saying he needs to change or be traded (hence your point on the contract). Ovi is NOT going to change. He is purely an offensive player and if that’s not enough for the Caps or their fans, then he needs to move. Expecting anything different from him is unrealistic. If it comes to that, then clearly there is a cultural change that needs to take place…just a complete failure with a talent like that. You do what is necessary to make it work bc he is that good. I’m willing to respectfully disagree with your post up until the last sentence which is clearly just “tire pumping”.

    • joey4id - Apr 3, 2014 at 7:04 PM

      BTW, in the situation depicted in the video it is a simple as busting you a$$ all the way to the slot to prevent a pass to the player skating in late. Hockey 101.

      • nunan - Apr 4, 2014 at 6:25 AM

        So is that the only example of him not back-checking then? Obviously, the discussion is centered around his habit of not getting back, not one example in a PHT video. My comment is addressing the issue as a whole. And being a good def forward is about putting yourself in the right position in the offensive zone, and anticipating the other teams’ movement when breaking out just as much as it is about skating hard to get back. See Bergeron. Nobody complained about Ovi 5 years ago when the Caps were atop the standings. He wasn’t playing any differently then and yet, he was regarded as the best forward in the league. Invest in some defense already..

      • joey4id - Apr 4, 2014 at 8:50 AM

        No. its not the only example. its merely an example of him being unable to do the obvious thing when his team doesn’t have the puck. Does he have his place on an NHL team? Yes. But he should not be given the status as the franchise player, the face of the team, the player that typifies the character of the team. Can you demote him? No. It would be extremely uncomfortably around the team if they strip him of the C. He would be better off on a team where he can just be one of the players as opposed to being the face of team a la Toews, Crosby, Chara, Giroux, Getzlaf, Stamkos, etc…

  2. joey4id - Apr 3, 2014 at 6:07 PM

    Cup predictions… noting personal Cam, but I always get a kick looking back at old articles and reading how fans react….

    Cam Tucker: Washington Capitals over Chicago Blackhawks

    Stiller43 – Oct 1, 2013 at 12:07 PM
    The caps?! Lol they may not even make the playoffs thanks to getting out of that cupcake division

    pitpenguinsrulez – Oct 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM
    The Crapitals winning the cup? That’s laughable

    capsfan19 – Oct 1, 2013 at 1:02 PM
    Alright i get caps havent made it past second round but pens fans, who knocked the b’s out two years ago with basically the same lineup? Who got SWEPT by the bruins last year? Get off your high & mighty stool.

    I think the cup is a stretch but adam oates is the best thing to happen to this team in awhile. He took a guy, totally switched his position and guided him to be the leagues top scorer. That says alot and shows that the team is behind him.

    micklethepickle – Oct 1, 2013 at 2:18 PM
    Cam Tucker, you are my new favorite writer. GO CAPS!

    earpaniac – Oct 1, 2013 at 7:35 PM
    Put down the booze Cam Tucker.

    • c9castine - Apr 3, 2014 at 8:56 PM

      weird

  3. alexnewca - Apr 3, 2014 at 6:08 PM

    I have a strong feeling that neither Oates or GMGM will be here after this season. GMGM’s contract is up for renewal, so I doubt Leonsis will keep him since he has failed to bring the cup to washington for his 17 year tenure.

    • PSLouis85 - Apr 3, 2014 at 7:13 PM

      And that is where it really gets interesting. GMGM gone. Oates gone. Mike Green wants out. He’s threatened to retire if he’s not moved. If Laich isn’t bought out, riots should ensue. Brouwer needs to be moved at the draft because his value will never be higher and Wilson should take all his minutes. Penner + Halak + Laich + Green + Brouwer = $20 mil in cap space that a new GM should be able to use to bring in either UFA’s or make a trade for a big impact. Preferably both. Brouwer + Johansson + a 1st round pick should be able to fetch something pretty respectable and both those guys are completely expendable.
      It is going to be a very interesting offseason.

      • imf311 - Apr 3, 2014 at 8:51 PM

        Do you have a source on Mike Green wanting out or he will retire? That would be fantastic, but I’ve never heard anything about this before…

      • PSLouis85 - Apr 4, 2014 at 9:53 AM

        He’s wanted out for a while. Leonsis sent GMGM to Calgary in the summer of 2010 or 2011 to convince him to come back. GMGM was willing to accommodate a trade but Leonsis couldn’t bear to part with one of his “young guns”

      • imf311 - Apr 4, 2014 at 3:10 PM

        summer of 2010 or 2011 is not current.

  4. patthehockeyfan - Apr 3, 2014 at 7:52 PM

    Just to list the rest of Ovie’s +/- stats:

    2005 – 2006+2

    • patthehockeyfan - Apr 3, 2014 at 7:56 PM

      That shouldn’t have happened. Sorry.

      2005 – 2006 +2
      2006 – 2007 -19
      2007 – 2008 +28
      2008 – 2009 +8
      2009 – 2010 +45
      2010 – 2011 +24
      2011 – 2012 -8
      2012 – 2013 +2

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