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Report: No hearing scheduled for Orpik after Toews hit

Mar 31, 2014, 10:45 AM EDT

Pittsburgh defenseman Brooks Orpik has no discipline hearing scheduled following his big hit on Chicago captain Jonathan Toews in Sunday’s 4-1 win, the Chicago Tribune reports.

Orpik forced Toews from the contest entirely with under seven minutes to go in the second period, courtesy this blast:

Orpik wasn’t penalized on the play. Toews appeared to be holding his left arm/elbow upon leaving the ice but, following the game, ‘Hawks head coach Joel Quenneville said the staff didn’t feel the injury was serious and that Toews was listed as day-to-day.

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  1. hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 10:51 AM

    Get better soon, JT – and never, ever do that again. Hope it’s just a flesh wound.

  2. toiletclown - Mar 31, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Why would there be a hearing on one of the most amazing clean hits I’ve seen this year? Pens are starting to roll boys!!! Bennett’s playing like a monster!!

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:04 PM

      I believe the Pens are 4-5-1 in their last 10… not exactly lighting it up. Sorry but the Pens just aren’t scaring folks like they did last year. The Bruins are a far superior team (top to bottom) and the Flyers know how to play em better than anyone. Plus you know your Flower wilts when the games start to matter. Maybe they do better simply without the pressure of being the favorites but there are atleast 3 or 4 better teams entering the playoff gauntlet.

      • m1k3g - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:50 PM

        “Plus you know your Flower wilts when the games start to matter.”

        ….because we all know there’s no one more qualified to speak on the topic of clutch goaltenders than flyers fans…

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:20 PM

        Doesn’t matter who I’m a fan of, I’ve seen Fleury play plenty (both regular season and postseason). I know how shaky he is. And in fact the Flyers revolving door of goaltenders would actually give me more insight on poor goaltending. There’s no Vokoun to save you this season.

      • toiletclown - Mar 31, 2014 at 3:05 PM

        Flyers looked liked chumps against Boston yesterday. I can see how far that team will go in the playoffs

      • m1k3g - Mar 31, 2014 at 3:28 PM


      • jdlinder11 - Mar 31, 2014 at 4:33 PM

        I agree with you. The Pens lack the forward depth to beat the Bruins in a 7 game series.

      • c9castine - Mar 31, 2014 at 10:04 PM

        your right wouldnt call it rolling but posted two quality wins there and starting to play better.

        and im sorry but youll never convince me that a goaltender that wears a stanley cup ring is a choker.

        cant win every year, its as simple as that.

    • imleftcoast - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:26 PM

      Is there going to be a hearing every time someone gets hurt? Is PHT suggesting the NHL ban hitting or is this just trolling for comments?

    • laxman1944 - Mar 31, 2014 at 7:21 PM


  3. kingnuthin222 - Mar 31, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    And in other news Hockey is a physical sport and Mike Milbury is not the Commissioner of the NHL . Toews is a great player, glad he is ok, keep your head up son.

  4. muckleflugga - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    gooooood … let it get fixed on the ice but keep an ambulance handy

    orpik will drop like thursday’s panties on saturday night if anyone so much as looks his way twice … wait wait

    just in … the pittsburgh penguins are banning all cub scouts and girl guides from the bowl at penguins home games … all those fiercely coloured badges and all that teutonic posturing might just precipitate spontaneous turtling from our miss brooks and

    let’s face it … there are only so many back boards and neck braces to go around

    get down yea do it yea … do the jitterbug do the worm do the orppppp pppppiiiiik iiiik iiiik yea get down


    • speedstickmusk - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:34 AM

      ya…. you’re an idiot

    • edseverson3 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:23 PM

      It seemed that all those tough guys didn’t go after Mr. Brooks. Do you think you would have come out of your mothers basement to go after him? You sir are a tool and a troll. Who are you a fan of again?

      • claudegirwho - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:56 PM

        Boston. No surprise on why he’s trolling so hard

    • c9castine - Mar 31, 2014 at 10:08 PM

      what point are you trying to make by making comments about Orpik being sucker punched and knocked out on the ice? to whom are you addressing this, and what do you hope to get out of it?

      i only ask because I dont think Brooks reads the comment section on PHT.

      also, hes a married man, so i dont think Miss is the correct title.

  5. jpelle82 - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    duh. nbc again trying to make something out of nothing. the only outlet mentioning hearing, suspension, or even penalty.

  6. sjsharks66 - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:14 AM

    Typical pot stirring by PHT. As if anyone really thought there would be a hearing for this hit.

    • sabatimus - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:20 AM

      Did you see the comments on the other two articles about this? Granted, I couldn’t tell if the “dirty hit” people were drunk or homers, but..

      • comeonnowguys - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:30 AM

        I’d argue more haters than homers. That could be nit-picking, though.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:13 PM

      Looked clean (altho Orpik was relatively close to leaving his feet prior to contact), but this guy has a history of throwing dirty hits and refusing to face the consequences. Which I guess is smart in a way but also infuriating. I much prefer the Zac Rinaldo route where he’ll destroy someone and then never back down from a subsequent challenger… like yesterday with Iginla. But I guess that’s the Pittsburgh way.

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:08 PM

        So, clean hit and he followed the rules, but since he frustrates the other team, he should have to fight anyway. This is your argument?

      • jpelle82 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:50 PM

        dude that happened 1 time because of his hit on ericsson and even that wasnt a real challenge by thornton, he just skated up slew footed him and punched him while he was down. perfect example orpik broke eric cole’s neck one year…dont remember when…cole challenged him and orpik fought him the next season when they saw each other again. i dont know what history you could be referring to other than the boston incident but orpik has been pretty vocal about his stance on fighting for a while before then. also, you say dirty hits but he’s only been suspended once out of thousands of hits thrown (cole hit – 3 games). totally unfounded criticism. rinaldo is a young 4th line pest trying to keep a job whereas orpik is a 10 yr veteran first pairing defenseman…dont compare the two either…two totally different type of players in different stages of their careers.

      • shawnthehockeykid - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:51 PM

        Rinaldo takes dirty hits that aren’t even border line. He should. Orpik is at least border line. I believe both this and Eriksson were dirty, but you could understand both sides of the argument. Plus Orpik is out there to play hockey. And he doesn’t really destroy people bud.

      • bandree - Mar 31, 2014 at 3:18 PM

        Orpik plays over 20 minutes a game. Rinaldo barely plays 10. Orpik is probably around +-0 whereas Rinaldo is +- (-13). Meaning Orpik knows his job is to stay out of the penalty box whereas Rinaldo is just a goon. Learn your players so you don’t make yourself look so foolish.

      • c9castine - Mar 31, 2014 at 10:18 PM

        yeah id like to know what this history is?

        perception is everything i guess…there is a difference between big punishing hits and dirty hits. sure he ends up crossing the line now and again but no more than the average guy especially considering the way he plays.

        like i said before hall of famer scott stevens destroyed many a career and threw many hits with heads down, backs turned. but hes revered.

        but brooks orpik who plays for the pittsburgh penguins and only scores 20 points a year? hes a dirty hitter who looks for vulnerable people, and wont face the “consequences”

        i dont know why anybody would want to fight him anyway. there is a reason he throws devastating body checks. his chest and arms are freakin huge.

  7. pitpenguinsrulez - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Again this hit wouldn’t be an issue if this was done by an Original 6 team. See Kronwall. Also Mike Milbury is the same assclown that beat a kid with a shoe. Unless he bashing Ovechkin his hockey comments are trash. Get well Toews.

    • runhigh24 - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:20 AM

      Also of note about Kronwall: He never fights either but no one ever says he should “answer the bell” for the clean hits he delivers. No reason he and Orpik should be held to different standards.

      • pitpenguinsrulez - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:32 AM

        I agree with you but as I said the Penguins arent an Original 6 team. Id hate for Scott Stevens to be still playing cause I’m sure people would be crying about his physical play or even a guy like Darius Kasparaitis. Also if Orpik hits a fourth line player, is this really an issue? I doubt it.

    • 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:37 AM

      have to ask you how old are you? if your 15 i’ll understand your argument

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:12 PM


      • 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:18 PM

        my bad , we all can’t be perfect

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:25 PM

        No problem, just helps your cause, when insulting someone else’s maturity level, to use 7th grade grammar at a minimum.

      • 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:51 PM

        do you mean like, sucker punch as one word ? I guess you’re not perfect !

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:01 PM

        Yeah, I guess I’m not as used to using that term as fans of some other teams 😦

      • 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:32 PM

        That’s ok 412 I couldn’t resist taking a jab at you ! That’s why they put erasers on pencils because we all make mistakes !

    • cofran2004 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:16 PM

      So…. bashing a guy you personally dislike is fine, but everything else he says is garbage? No no no… you can’t have it both ways sir.

    • dtownbeatdown - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:03 PM

      How many times are you going to post this? There are plenty of articles on prohockeytalk of kronwall too and his hits deemed questionable. Get over it you pansy.

  8. sabatimus - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    Nor should there be.

  9. ironmd778 - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    No hearing? What?? It was a friggin’ body check. Why would there be a hearing? You guys are brutal sometimes!!! Stop promoting the wussification of the game!

    • 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:52 AM

      That’s exactly what I said when Steckel ran into Crosby during the winter classic and all the Pen fans were calling for Steckels head ! It was a hockey play !

      • steelpenbucs87 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:07 PM

        Hahaha – uhhhh not quite. Don’t get me wrong, Steckel’s “hit” was an unfortunate accident, he was looking up ice and trying to get back in the play and he clipped Crosby in an unfortunate position. No fault at all there. But it wasn’t a hockey play, and it wasn’t a body check.

      • 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:12 PM

        it had more to do about how Pen fans reacted .

      • c9castine - Mar 31, 2014 at 10:23 PM

        uh, that wasnt a hockey play. there wasnt even a puck around.

        argue about intention, sure…but there was no “hockey” involved in what was going on there.

  10. pastabelly - Mar 31, 2014 at 11:52 AM

    It was a clean hit, but that doesn’t mean there was no intent to injure or that Orpik doesn’t play on the edge. There shouldn’t be a hearing. At the same time, Orpik should watch his back.

    • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:59 PM

      True….that’s where the “manly” attacks seem to be coming from, these days.

      The intent to injure thing is getting so old. This was a body check, and he only knows how to hit one way – hard. How many defensive players hit a guy softly? It just seeems like in the same post you are saying 1) he’s too rough, and 2) he should have to fight to prove how rough he is. It’s a maddening concept.

      How about this (not addressing you personally with this) – how about all fans and all players just stfu about “this person should have fought this person” and “ok you fought this guy but now you should have to fight this guy” and just PLAY THE DAMN GAME.

      If it’s necessary to “answer the bell” every time you cross the red line then by all means write it in the rulebook, submit a petition for the next GM meeting.

      • cofran2004 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:31 PM

        It’s fun watching penguins fans defend their team’s cowardly way of playing. Yes, they’re within the rules. They play the way the league allows them to. You can’t fault them for that. Then again, thats a lot like saying a kid that breaks things, back-talks, and swears in public is a good kid because their parent allows them to get away with it. It doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:38 PM

        Hahaha….wait ok…cowardly way of playing = playing within the rules? A body check is cowardly? A hard, legal body check is legal in the same way that a child swearing, and breaking things is? O….k…..Actually kids that swear, break stuff and back-talk are usually the little brats that get in trouble for sneaking up behind someone and punching them, aren’t they? And then talk about how it was ok because “they was mad”??? 😦

      • cofran2004 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:50 PM

        I’ll assume that since you only refuted the part of my post about the analogy i used, that you don’t have anything to say.

        Also, yes… those kids do most likely turn into those players. They wait until guys heads are down, and they blast them. This is the problem most people have with orpik, and a lot of the pens. Lets put it this way…. when 29 team’s fanbases think your team is dirty, and the only fanbase that doesn’t is yours, chances are…. you’re wrong. *Insert Dr. Cox doing the westminster bells wrong chant here*

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:00 PM

        You’re way off target now. So, you are saying that Orpik’s hit was dirty, and you aren’t allowed to hit players that are skating with their heads down, and that you’re team would NEVER hit someone that is skating with their head down, but instead would ease up and let them past? What team is your team, by the way?

      • cofran2004 - Mar 31, 2014 at 4:38 PM

        And I’m not saying you’re not allowed to hit players with their heads down. They just seem to be the only kind of hits orpik throws. It’s like he looks for defenseless players, and then onliterates them, and then turtles after he does so. This isn’t the hit to point at and scream about, but there are PLENTY of examples to point at. As I said… if you’re the only fans of 30 fanbases that don’t see how dirty some of your players are, maybe the other 29 fanbases aren’t the problem.

      • hockey412 - Apr 1, 2014 at 8:13 AM

        Actually I don’t think it’s 29 other fan bases that feel that way – be careful who you try to speak for. But yeah…all 29 other fan bases agree that the Bruins are certainly not the slightest bit over the top. Puhlease…you may be delusional. You do have Milbury on your side, that’s for sure…outside of that, things get a bit sketchy.

      • cofran2004 - Apr 1, 2014 at 9:41 AM

        I don’t care for the bruins either, but ask bruins fans about the pens and they’ll say the same thing. Actually, ask sharks fans, rangers fans, detroit fans, florida fans, edmonton fans…. actually, do I still have to keep naming fanbases? I think you get my point.

        Actually I don’t. Because you’ve probably been watching hockey since 2005. Wait wait… lemme guess… “No… actually I’ve been watching since 1976 blah blah blah.” Yeah. Sure. Every pen fan says that. Except their were barely any pens fans before that, so try again.

      • hockey412 - Apr 1, 2014 at 9:46 AM

        mmm hmmmm….just another a-hole. You blew your cover there. Sharks, Rangers, Detroit (maybe some Detroit actually), Florida, Edmonton, these fans have no qualms with the Pens. But, been watching since about 1980, seen a lot of changes in the game, in the teams, in the rules, and in society. But an a-hole remains an a-hole, to this day.

      • cofran2004 - Apr 1, 2014 at 9:53 AM

        I’ve seen complaints from every one of those teams fanbases. Not just here, other boards. Ans blew what cover? Lets face it… almost NO ONE cares for the penguins except those who are new to hockey, and those from pittsburgh. There are a couple people on this board who are pens fans who are cool. You are not among them. I’ve stated several times now that this wasn’t the hit to point at when claiming the pens are dirty. This was a good clean hit. My contention is that a good clean hit is very rare from Orpik. You deny that. Fine. Deny all you want. All I’m saying is that 99% of the league disagrees.

      • hockey412 - Apr 1, 2014 at 9:47 AM

        Only partially serious about that, by the way – debating aside, I don’t really think you’re an a-hole any more than I am.

      • cofran2004 - Apr 1, 2014 at 10:00 AM

        Okay… that’s fair lol. And I only say things like I say because all I’m really after most times are cheap laughs. I’m obviously not a pens fan, as you can see. I think I’m pretty easily identified as a rangers fans, but if you didn’t know, there it is. If I have offended you, I apologize. I have this problem of needing the last word in any argument I’m in, and I can be kind of a jerk about it. I won’t back down down from what I said, but the negativity I threw at you personally wasn’t necessary, and I’ll take that back.

        Anyway….. if you care to continue, we can. But I’d consider this horse beaten, wouldn’t you?

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:10 PM

        And wait, only part of your analogy? That was your entire idea, there, I disagree with everything you said, and your analogy is backasswards. You’re saying that guys that play within the rules are the real problem in this league. I get it. Yer smert as smert gits.

      • cofran2004 - Mar 31, 2014 at 4:34 PM

        No, I never actually called that hit dirty. I called the player, and by extension the team dirty. Learn to read, chief. I actually dont have a problem with that hit. Just the player in general.

    • c9castine - Mar 31, 2014 at 10:25 PM

      im not sure if i want guys throwing hits without the intent to cause physical damage. as long as its shoulder contact and not charging. (check and check)

      might as well pat them on the back.

      so, in the same sentence, you complain there might be intent to injure here when making a hockey play, and then declare he should watch his back. which stance is it that you take?

  11. pats2001 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    what a shocker. typical orpik running a guy when his head is down. not giving a pass to toews on this because he has to keep his head up. and i’m not suggesting this was a cheap shot. but this is vintage orpik. amazing to think about all the backlash against shawn thornton when he glass joe’d orpik. maybe someday people will realize why thornton did what he did, when you see orpik pulling this stuff. hope toews will be okay, he’s a great player and great for the league

    • pitpenguinsrulez - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:08 PM

      Typical Bruins fan.

    • edseverson3 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:28 PM

      Not giving him a pass. HA HA HA. That is one of the funniest things I think I have read. So, from now on if you are an elite player you shouldn’t get hit hard. Does this pertain to all sports or just hockey? But I guess you should have a goon chase you around, while your back is turned, trip you and while on the ground punch you in the face.

      • cofran2004 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:33 PM

        When its a goon gooning a goon, is it really gooning at all?

      • cofran2004 - Mar 31, 2014 at 4:47 PM

        Injuring guys, and not manning up afterwards is mainly what I’m talking about.

    • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:06 PM

      Thornton did what he did because he’s a honorless whore of a hockey player who wouldn’t BE in the league if he didn’t do what he did.

      Toews burned Orpik last game, when Orpik decided to give him a pass. He did his job, we’re all on here arguing the fact that he hit him too hard, from what I can gather. Clean hit but he hit him too hard? Bah….only fools would argue that Orpik hid or turtled from anyone. He stayed on the ice, and Sharp put him on his back. Case closed, hopefully Toews will be fine.

      It’s just crazy that Boston fans even think they have a leg to stand on, when they celebrate the other teams injuries.

      • shawnthehockeykid - Mar 31, 2014 at 3:15 PM

        Congrats. That was the stupidest thing I have read all day.

      • edseverson3 - Mar 31, 2014 at 3:30 PM

        cofran, I see that you are trying to be cute with your little word play, but explain to me what exactly makes Orpik a goon? Thornton wouldn’t be in the league if he didn’t fight. That is why he is goon.

  12. pats2001 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    you got that right pitpenguinsrulez

  13. kicksave1980 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:28 PM

    I’m a Hawks fan, and I don’t think the hit warrants a hearing or anything like that. Solid hit. But when you see someone like Orpik do that to your best player, it’s tough to see. Someone should have given him no choice and just drop the gloves on him anyway…clean hit or not. And if it would’ve been Seabrook doing that to Crosby or Malkin, you’d understand.

    • cofran2004 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:35 PM

      You can’t talk logic to most pens fans. They don’t get it.

      • cheetah440 - Mar 31, 2014 at 7:57 PM

        truth. they are a sad lot, total embarrassment to hockey. If you go around blowing people up, expect to be challenged and stand up like a man. Orpik isn’t a real man, he’s a cheap shot artist looking for the vulnerable guy that is in a defenseless posture and levels him. This seems to make Pens fans hard. Then again, they cheered the scumbag Cooke and loved what he did. It’s just the way Pitts rolls.

    • chanceoffleury - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:53 PM

      What’s there to understand, though? It’s not like Seabrook or Keith would have dropped the gloves either. Really, how often do you see them: a) pass on the open chance to shoulder check the other team’s best player, or b) fight in general, especially if it’s in response to a legal check?

      I think it’s silly to expect any team’s best players to fight. I can’t speak for all Pens fans, but I know personally that if Keith or Seabrook laid that hit on Crosby I’d be sad for Crosby, but I wouldn’t expect Seabrook or Keith to fight. The Pens need another top player putting himself in a possible injury situation like they need a hole in their heads. Orpik would have just been hurting his own team by dropping the gloves and removing himself from play.

  14. ndrick731 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:29 PM

    Typical Penguins fans here. Defending Orpik is fine. Just don’t cry when the same thing happens to Cindy. Because we all know if it happened to Cindy you all would be on here crying bloody murder.

    • pats2001 - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:34 PM

      you tell em ndrick731. and i was just looking at the comments about from pitpenguinsrulez about how the penguins aren’t an original 6 team so therefore this becomes a story? what does that even mean? are you insinuating that original 6 teams get special treatment from the media? from the league? i don’t understand

      • 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:09 PM

        You have to think like a15 year old ! After getting 5 thumbs down as of now I can only assume most people on this pht are 15.

    • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:00 PM

      It’s happened, repeatedly. Not too many people said anything. Everyone puts Crosby on his wallet, or tries. Maybe watch a game or two.

  15. 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Intentional or not the game is over, unfortunately Orpik will be remembered as a cheap shot artist rather than decent defenseman when he retires .

    • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:19 PM

      This was a clean play. Running a goalie, smashing someone’s head into a stanchion, suckerpunching someone from behind, punching people in the face at every whistle, and lastly kneeing someone in the head when they are down are cheap shots. Orpik will be remembered as a hitter, and a rough defenseman, someone that saw hockey as a sport best played with gloves on.

      • 7mantel - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:24 PM

        sucker punching is two words ! Do you mean like Crosby punching Boris Valabik from behind in the chops !

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:32 PM

        Sure, that counts as well. I was more talking about Boychuk and McQuaid (a.k.a. dirt) and their constant punches thrown in an effort to look tough for their delusional fan base, which are never called due to frequent withdrawals made from the 10 digit bank account of Mr. Jacobs, but sure, we can use Crosby there too. He’s certainly known for his punches.

      • gallyhatch - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:43 PM

        412, you forgot cross checks to the side of the head / face, and launching yourself in the air towards the head of an unsuspecting opponent.

        You know what they say about glass houses……

      • hockey412 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:52 PM

        Yes, sure! any contact with the head, I’m fine with that. I don’t believe I’m currently standing in a glass house, gallyhatch – I’m not defending any dirt here, just this hit. I’m defending the fact that Orpik shouldn’t have to fight after a clean hit. I’m not even saying no Penguins ever do anything dirty, am I? I actually brought up Neal’s knee to the head. But the holier than thou attitude coming from fans in a certain coastal city NE of Pittsburgh and the talk about “intent to injure” after a clean body check, when there is SO much dirt on the windows of that glass house, is just to much for lil old me to bear.

      • jpelle82 - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:35 PM

        all i see is brad marchand with these descriptions….

  16. bhwksfn - Mar 31, 2014 at 12:38 PM

    Turtle Orpik seems to pick on guys like Toews and Erickson and then runs an hides. I wonder why that is? Thornton gave him what he deserved. One goon chasing another goon. Nothing wrong with that!

    • kovodisc - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:04 PM

      Thornton is no good.

    • kovodisc - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:04 PM

      Thornton is no goon.

  17. sjsharks66 - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:08 PM

    Wonder how some fans would feel if the Thronton incident happened to someone on their team? Remember when Kronwall destroyed Voracek? Everyone went after Kronwall and he turned down any chance to fight. Should Rinaldo have done what Thornton did? Seeing as how the Kronwall hit was 10x more brutal than the Orpik hit on Ericksson.

  18. lunchboxray - Mar 31, 2014 at 1:58 PM

    That was a legal hit. Period. Toews was hit when he was “vulnerable” but the only reason he was “vulnerable” is because he dropped his eyes. Combine that with Orpiks hard hitting style and his innate ability to see when an opposing player is in those situations and you get what happened last night. To put it another way its the defensive version of what Toews does around the net, he just seems to be in the right place at the right time most of the time.

    And thats coming from a lifelong Hawks fan.

  19. kovodisc - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    Borderline hit IMO.

    Only problem I see with it is that Toews didn’t have the puck, Orpik had him lined up from 20-25ft out, and he left his feet to make the hit.

    • jpelle82 - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:29 PM

      i’m sure what you meant to say is he had the puck and didnt leave his feet. unless you just didnt see the video of the hit…

      • drewzducks - Mar 31, 2014 at 5:37 PM

        When you said earlier that “all I see is Brad Marchand with these descriptions” I wasn’t sure what you were getting at. A player who plays at and occasionally over the line who also has averaged 25 goals and a +30 since he became a regular in ’10-’11, leading the league this season in SHG and amassed 11 goals and 19 points during their Stanley Cup winning season ? I’m sure you’d take a player of his skill, even with the warts, on your beloved team.

  20. pats2001 - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:03 PM

    maybe the boston media can nominate thornton for the masterson trophy, just like the pittsburgh media did for cooke. pens fans and media live on a different planet. that all being said, the pens players and organization from top down are pu–ies and they were exposed last year in the playoffs. and i don’t think bruins fans have ever suggested that guys on the team are saints by any means. but at least they answer the bell when challenged. orpik is the perfect example of how soft the pens and their fans are

    • edseverson3 - Mar 31, 2014 at 3:40 PM

      Don’t get me wrong, right now the Bruins are the best team in the East. They dominated the Pens in the ECF last year. But your comments make very little sense and are not tangible to any part of the argument.
      I will say that as far as an organization and fans being pu-ies, video taping other teams practices and then using those illegal tapes to win super bowls and not winning since, would make a very good argument for cheating and being exposed.

      • pats2001 - Mar 31, 2014 at 4:18 PM

        haha..thanks. and assuming you’re a steelers fan (i’ll be quick with this, i know some people don’t like the non hockey talk on here) if you honestly believe that what the patriots did with the video taping the sidelines gave them enough of an advantage to change the course of a game (and also if you believe the pats were the only team doing this) then you are either a moron or a cry baby. even bill cowher himself said it wasnt enough of an advantage and that other teams did it as well. so which one are you? a moron or a cry baby?

  21. leprekan - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:38 PM

    If it was a penalty it would be boarding, as Toews was in a vulnerable position just away from the boards, however if you read the 2nd paragraph of the boarding rule it is up to the ref to decide if Toews put himself in the vulnerable position, which I believe he did in this case

    41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently in the boards. The severity of the penalty, based upon the impact with the boards, shall be at the discretion of the Referee.

    There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a defenseless position and if so, he must avoid or minimize the contact. However, in determining whether such contact could have been avoided, the circumstances of the check, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position immediately prior to or simultaneously with the check or whether the check was unavoidable can be considered. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.

  22. footballfan - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:40 PM

    The best part about reading all of the stupid comments here???? Everyone from Pitt and Chicago are calling the hit legal and everyone else disagrees. That’s pretty darn funny! Any fan of a team with Marchand on the roster needs to shut up about anyone from any team playing dirty!!! Period……

  23. calden99 - Mar 31, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Good there shouldn’t be anyways clean hit

  24. thegreatmorpheos - Mar 31, 2014 at 4:25 PM

    When I saw the headline here, I thought this was probably written by Mike “The worm” Milbury and now I’m not surprised to see it’s written by Mike “The Hack” Halford.

    I’m not a Hawks fan or a Pens fan, but that was a clean hit all day long and just because the biggest bozo in the booth made some stupid comments about it during yesterday’s intermission is no reason for the biggest bozo writer to put up a story about nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. graymalkin26 - Mar 31, 2014 at 4:39 PM

    Pens will lose because of goaltending…haha!

  26. bhwksfn - Mar 31, 2014 at 5:29 PM

    I never thought I would say this as a Hawks fan, but, I really missed John Scott last night!!!

  27. macdega - Apr 1, 2014 at 12:04 AM

    Mil bury should stick to what he knows: ruining franchises like the Islanders.

    • thegreatmorpheos - Apr 2, 2014 at 12:20 PM

      And beating up 12 year olds.

  28. gr8twhitey - Apr 1, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    The only reason this hit has become an issue is because that pompous idiot Milbury took to running his mouth and hating on the pens yet again. Aren’t announcers and commentators supposed to convey unbiased opinions…..Milbury can’t get past his hatred for the pens to even form a logical opinion on the game. Please get rid of this guy

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