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Neal, Legwand receive fines for cross-checking and butt-ending, respectively

Mar 21, 2014, 3:43 PM EDT

A couple of fines to announce, via the NHL Department of Player Safety:

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  1. runhigh24 - Mar 21, 2014 at 3:48 PM

    To save time everyone should just copy and paste their comments from the previous Neal article. Just a suggestion.

  2. sjsharks66 - Mar 21, 2014 at 3:50 PM

    Well… Looks like I can see the future. Anyone need my psychic services for betting odds?

    • joey4id - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:05 PM

      Hey! Is that me with yet another account? I forgot I was supposed to copy & paste. So, here it is;

      sjharks66 – Mar 21, 2014 at 11:21 AM
      “the NHL made the right decision. I think he could have gotten a fine though”

      you’re welcome. 😉

  3. isphet71 - Mar 21, 2014 at 3:51 PM

    Right move by the NHL. These guys deserved some sort of punishment, but suspensions would be punitive against the 2 teams with the most injuries this season. It would have been wrong to punish one guy more than the other; that was a dirty game and both sides were guilty of the dirt.

    • jpelle82 - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:03 PM

      i really hope the league doesnt consider team injuries as a basis for whether or not they suspend players.

    • drewsylvania - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:15 PM

      What a crock of ****.

  4. penguins87and71 - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:01 PM

    The NHL needs to change their disciplinary rules, first off if a player purposely contacts the head, he should automatically suspended. I also think they should have a point system on the players. If a player is suspended 1-4 times they get suspended 3 games, 5-8 times 6 games, 9-12 times 9 games, and so on and so on. I also think they should penalize the team, if you have so many players suspended in a season, that team would get a hefty fine or lose a draft pick.

    • joey4id - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:08 PM

      “first off if a player purposely contacts the head, he should automatically be suspended”

      What do you do in the case of a fight?

      • jpelle82 - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:15 PM

        you’re just itching for the fighting conversation today arent you?

      • joey4id - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        Au contraire, mon ami. Merely demonstrating that you cannot have it both ways.

      • joey4id - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:27 PM

        Besides. If I really wanted to have that conversation, then I would just write about concussions related to fighting.

  5. girouxsalem89 - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:15 PM

    What goes around comes around.

    Next time Neal has a concussion I doubt anyone will feel sorry for him.

    • joey4id - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:08 PM

      Why stop at a concussion? I’m sure if you think hard enough without hurting yourself, you can come up with worse things that can happen to Neal. How about CTE? Will that make you feel better?

    • chanceoffleury - Mar 21, 2014 at 7:15 PM

      That comment insinuates that anybody felt sorry for him this past time. I think people pretty much gave up on him after the Marchand thing. To this day he’s never genuinely apologized for it which is the most disappointing thing for myself as a fan of his. It’s probably gonna be a while before he earns most people’s respect back. It’ll never happen if he keeps this stuff up.

      • valoisvipers - Mar 22, 2014 at 12:16 AM

        I’m still a big fan of Neal! That Marchand knee is way over blown. It was more an insult than injury.

  6. drewsylvania - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:16 PM

    How does Neal continue to get away with stuff like this?

    • cofran2004 - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:44 PM

      well he did get fined, so I wouldn’t say he got away with it. Then again, 5k for them isn’t even really a slap on the wrist. Its more like a whiney nerd saying to a bully, “heeeeyyyyy…. dont do that…..”

  7. penguins87and71 - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:17 PM

    Fighting is totally different, most of the time it’s two willing players. What James Neal did last night, and earlier this year would be considered automatic suspensions. The point is if you purposely make contact with the head(not in a fight), then you will be suspended.

    • joey4id - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:47 PM

      Ok. So, here is what you’re saying, and correct me of I’m wrong. In order to avoid head shots, which can potentially lead to a player being concussed, the league should automatically suspend a player. However, no suspension will be handed out to a player who purposely made contact to the head of an opponent with his bare fists to concuss or intend to injure that player during a fight because most of the time a fight involves 2 willing participants.

      If that’s what you’re implying then I am baffled, and amazed by such logic.

      Note: no fighting debate here. just questioning this poster’s illogical logic.,

      • penguins87and71 - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:32 PM

        Clearly you want to talk about fighting and concussions, because you won’t drop the subject. Like I said above their is a huge difference between fighting and getting a concussion, then someone coming up and cross checking you in the head. You know the risk of getting into a fight in a NHL game, your probably will get hit in the head, but I don’t know anyone who would sign up for getting unsespectively cross checked or kneed in the head. If you have such a problem with fighting in the NHL, why don’t you write a letter to Gary Bettmam voicing your complaint. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know the difference between getting punched in the head in a fight, and unsespectively getting hit in the head.

      • joey4id - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:52 PM

        I don’t have the intellect to understand the difference between getting punched in the head (can lead to a concussion), and unsuspectingly getting hit in the head (can lead to a concussion), and and don’t have the intellectual capacity to write a letter to Mr. Bettman. I rather let the more intelligent people like Bowman, Rutherford, Yzerman, Shero, Dryden and others take the case to Mr. Bettman. No debate on fighting here. Just wanted to understand your thought process.

      • charlieconway96 - Mar 21, 2014 at 6:45 PM

        I waited as long as I could to chime in on this but…

        Joey, have you ever played hockey?

      • shortsxit34 - Mar 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM

        Joey is a huge insider, haven’t you heard?

      • joey4id - Mar 21, 2014 at 7:57 PM

        charlie, I don’t understand the relevance of your question, and let’s not have this discussion. Say your piece and we can move on.

      • charlieconway96 - Mar 22, 2014 at 2:34 AM

        Nice attempt at a deflection there Joey. Maybe you have played hockey, or maybe you’re a low level politician in the making… We’ll never know.

        Since it seems that you don’t actually play the game, let me put it into terms you might understand.
        When you get in your car and drive to the grocery store, you’re expecting other drivers to obey the laws and rules of the road, sure you could get in an accident but you don’t really have to worry about someone taking a run at you. When a player gets angry like this and decides to take a hack at someones head, imagine someone tries to run you off a freeway by ramming their car into you and intentionally causing you serious physical harm. The law has heavy penalties that deter people from doing this sort of thing, sure idiots still do it but they’ll pay and be way less likely to do it again.

        And now back to hockey, sure, a player assumes plenty of risks while playing, but you don’t expect someone to take a swing at your head. Yes, it does happen but the NHL needs to take the head shots seriously and apply serious fines and suspensions for them.

        And since I know you want it, yes, fighting is one of those assumed risks I mentioned before (unless of course Ray Emery decides to jump you).

  8. sjsharks66 - Mar 21, 2014 at 4:47 PM

    Again we have everyone just focusing on Neal. While Legwand speared a player and was just as dirty as Neal was last night. Come on people. Can people just talk about what happened, instead of focusing on one issue in a 60 minute game? Yes, Neal caught him in the head. The stick rides up and I doubt he meant to hurt him. But check this out, in the same breath I will say that Neal needs to cut this sh**t out! He hurts his team by not just taking a penalty. He hurts his team by helping give the pens a bad name. He thinks about himself in these situations and someone needs to have a serious talk with him. They’ve tried benching him, now they need to tell him if he does not cut it out he will not be a Penguin next season.

    It reminds me of the Orpik/Thornton situation. While i hate beating a dead horse, it kind of goes hand in hand. When that incident happened a handful of people put their biased hate aside and realized that Thornton made a mistake. While other people on focused on “Orpik sold it.” “How did a gloved hand knock him out” “the pens are divers”.

    Im just so confused on why it always has to be blunt comments like, “Neal is a pos” “Crosby sucks” “the pens dive”. Why not have an actual conversation about what happens, like grown ups?? The only reason I use the Pens in this example is because that’s where this all happens the most. It happens with other situations also, but not as repetitive and one sided as these.

    End rant, bring the thumbs down.

    • patthehockeyfan - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:44 PM

      “Why not have an actual conversation about what happens, like grown ups??”

      Clearly, sharks, you forgot where you were posting.

    • flyerspsu - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:59 PM

      I swear this sjsharks guy is a pens fan

      • sjsharks66 - Mar 22, 2014 at 12:25 AM

        You busted me Flyerspsu. I guess I will go throw away all my Sharks merchandise, playoff towels, hats, pennants, posters, signs and old ticket stubs. I REALLY LIKED ALL THOSE! 😦

    • whlskey - Mar 21, 2014 at 8:04 PM

      The major difference with your Orpik/Thornton argument is whilst playing in that same game, and mind you the whole instigating reason for the Orpik/Thornton incident, is Neal blatantly sticks his knee out to hit Marchand in the head while Marchand is down on the ice and away from the play, but post game Neal denies intent and acts the fool.. Thornton on the other hand, speaks of how awful and disgusted he feels, takes full responsibility, condones his own actions, and you can even see how visibly upset the guy was with himself for doing that to Orpik. That’s why people continually hate on Neal, but most people have forgiven Thornton.

  9. hockeyflow33 - Mar 21, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    Fines should be out the window after a player has a certain number of infractions.

  10. chanceoffleury - Mar 21, 2014 at 7:24 PM

    To put this into perspective, $5000 is 0.1% of Neal’s salary. I get 4x that much taken out of my salary if I drive in the HOV lane because I’m running super late for work……….

    Great work, NHL. I’m sure this will be the “ah-hah” moment that brings him to enlightenment and persuades him to change his ways.

    • 7mantel - Mar 21, 2014 at 7:32 PM

      Maybe they should make it 5% for first infraction ,10% for second with a cap of 15%! Hit them in the pocket and they will think twice about taking a cheap hit !

      • valoisvipers - Mar 22, 2014 at 12:20 AM

        Yeah, like the NHLPA will let that happen! Come on Mickey, think a little before posting.

      • 7mantel - Mar 22, 2014 at 7:21 AM

        how did the NHLPA do during the last CBA ? Bettman n the owners call the shots ,sad but true !

  11. mp1131211 - Mar 22, 2014 at 3:04 AM

    I think it’s really sad that a player can’t cross check another one in the face in this league anymore. I mean, remember the days when this would have been considered “agitation?” Next they’ll be punishing players for hitting each other with their sticks. Ridiculous!

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