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Rangers foiled by Sharks’ Niemi, controversial no-goal

Mar 16, 2014, 7:51 PM EDT

On one hand, there’s the story that New York Rangers fans can’t dispute: San Jose Sharks goalie Antti Niemi was sensational against their team on Sunday.

They might dispute the fact that he shut them out, however. Consider this no-goal for Carl Hagelin, who was coming off his first career hat trick:

Here’s the explanation via NHL.com’s Situation Room Blog:

At 16:45 of the second period in the San Jose Sharks/New York Rangers game, the Situation Room initiated video review to further examine Carl Hagelin’s wraparound attempt on the San Jose net. No camera angles provided to the Situation Room provided a clear image of the puck completely across the goal line. As a result, video review was inconclusive, therefore the referee’s call on the ice stands – no goal New York Rangers.

With this loss and various tiebreaker situations in mind, the Rangers now dropped out of the Metropolitan Division’s top three, leaving them as the bottom East wild card as of this writing with 76 standings points. One can assume that the NHL will hear more about the goal review process after such a high-profile team was on the wrong end of it on Sunday.

  1. sjsharks66 - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:06 PM

    They could not see that the puck completely crossed the line. Good call and bad call. I feel like it did cross and should have counted. On the other hand, glad they stuck by the rulebook. Sharks were dangerous in the Rangers zone. The King really kept the game close for them.

    • moarjam - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:39 PM

      I guess we were watching different games. The rangers had the sharks pinned in their zone for a majority of the game. The large shot discrepency would support that. Niemi was fantastic. He made a few saves that were point blank. He was just on all day.

      In regards to the no goal call…It’s a tough break but ultimately the right call IMO…I don’t think anyone (sharks fans included) will tell you they didn’t think that puck was in but the ref couldn’t see it and there wasn’t a good video angle bc niemi was blocking it. So by the law of the land it’s a correct call but yeeeah it was in.

    • punksinplay - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:23 PM

      What game were you watching dude? The Rangers had 41 shots on goal.

      • tdaveniii - Mar 17, 2014 at 11:35 AM

        Right call, terrible rule. The rule should not be that they have to see the puck cross the line; instead, it should be that there is video evidence from which we can reasonably determine the puck crossed the line. Here, we couldn’t actually see a picture of the puck over the line, but we know it had to have been over the line. With such a rule, the Sharks would have given up a goal here, and picked up about 4 in other games this season.

  2. kingsfan93 - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:16 PM

    These REFEREES are a COMPLETE JOKE to the NHL this season. I not just talking about this Ranger game, but A LOT of difference incidences that has gone on this season and these REFEREES SCREW-UP on. These REFEREES KNOW when they made a MISTAKE, that they can’t go back on it and say to the FANS “Okay WE were WRONG.”

    It is not only the teams getting cheated on by this crap, but us FANS that pay for the game that we go to.

    Someone gotta let these FOOLS know what’s up. It is just plain out RIDICULOUS.

    • stevefromsacto - Mar 18, 2014 at 11:05 AM

      They were NOT wrong. There is no way they could determine definitively that the puck went completely over the line.
      Want some cheese with your whine?

  3. mornelithe - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:24 PM

    I’m confused, did the refs not have the same footage as we saw in the video? Because the puck clearly crossed the line…very clearly, with replay there’s no possible alternate theory that doesn’t involve wormholes and tears in space/time.

    What’s the replay system even for, if refs can’t even watch a screen and make the right call. And, btw, this is from a Bruins fan, I have no allegiance to either team.

    • stakex - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:48 PM

      I completely agree that the puck was in the net, and it was frustrating that it was called no goal being a Rangers fan…. but the call was correct.

      The problem is the clip of the puck being pulled out of the net, in which it was obviously over the goal line, happened a few seconds after the whistle had blown. There was no video of the puck crossing the line, or sitting in the net at the time play was still ongoing…. as such it is possible, though unlikely, that the puck entered the net after the play was dead.

      I mean look at it this way… if such a goal was allowed to stand against whatever team you root for, you would probably be really pissed. I know I would be with no evidence it crossed the goal line before the whistle.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Mar 17, 2014 at 2:02 AM

      Leafs fan here who has always rooted against NYR. No, I did not see the puck in the net, but I saw it coming out of the net, and the only reason it could possibly have been coming out of the net is, duh, if it had been in the net, across the red line. Goal. Bad call.

  4. sjsharks66 - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:53 PM

    I think we were watching the same game. In the same game you must have noticed the 2 periods the Rangers outshot the Sharks, the Rangers were on the PP. The first period they had 20 shots, with 2 PP’s and not having to PK. The same goes for the third period. The second period the Rangers were out shot because the Sharks had the only PP of the period.

    I am not saying the Rangers were dominated or played bad. They did out shoot the Sharks. However, the Sharks were very dangerous in the Rangers zone. Just look at how they kept the puck in the zone for the last 2 minutes. The Rangers could barely even pull the King.

  5. 7mantel - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:55 PM

    NYR missed a few good chances and it cost them both teams played a hell of a game !

  6. sjsharks66 - Mar 16, 2014 at 8:56 PM

    Agreed, was a very exciting game!

  7. anthonykornheiser - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:11 PM

    Sharks, wow take off those teal glasses. The game was insanely one sided. Niemi stole the game. Aside from the goal that was clearly in, the save on zuccarello, the stops on brassard and vlasic getting in the way of an empty net. You can come up with as many reasons as you like but everyone else saw the game too. Yes, they killed off some penalties and they did a good job shutting the door at the end, but come on. It was all niemi

    • btlpper68 - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:20 PM

      I’m a sharks fan and I agree rangers dominated 3 games in 4 nights really showed at least we got all 6 points

    • sjsharks66 - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:47 PM

      Yeah, sure. No one said Niemi was not the reason they won. All I said was that the Sharks were dangerous in the Rangers zone. The Sharks were out shot, got lucky that the rules saved them from a goal and they were lucky Niemi stood on his head. How the hell am I wearing teal glasses in a 1-0 game with a controversial goal, that I admitted should have counted? The game was not insanely one sided. It was a close game that could have went either way.

      • moarjam - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:00 PM

        Yeah idk I just never felt they generated much pressure. They just weren’t in the rangers zone much. I mean, I guess they were dangerous when attacking…they are a dangerous team…but it just wasn’t very often. Anyway it’s irrevant. They got 2 big points.

  8. anthonykornheiser - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    The game was one sided. Aside from air mailing the open net on a backhand in the first and the breakaway goal, the sharks weren’t dangerous. They’re an excellent team, you should be happy, it was a great win and that’s what really good teams do, but it’s ok to admit they were very outplayed and still came away with a win. The ice was tilted for about 52 mins of that game.

  9. stakex - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:54 PM

    I actually think us Rangers fans CAN dispute how good Antti Niemi was. I mean sure he seemed to be playing great…. but was it really him, or was it this Rangers team that seems to make every goalie look like a hero? Seriously, I don’t know how many times this year we have heard how amazing opposing team goalies have played. Eventually you can’t keep giving them all the credit, and have to start giving it to the players that really deserve it… and right now its a Rangers lineup that doesn’t have the word “finish” in their vocabulary.

    • moarjam - Mar 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM

      I hear what your saying because I’ve thought the same thing many times this year but I don’t think that as the case today. Niemi was real good. It would be an insult to him to say anything less. That save on brassard….unreal. Brassard’s reaction said it all.

  10. skr213 - Mar 16, 2014 at 9:59 PM

    Doesn’t matter who “dominated” whom. It ended 1-0. Probably should have gone to OT. At this time of the season, I can see how Rangers fans would be pissed. I remember our Sharks being in a similar situation a few years back and something like this cost us home ice advantage right near the end of the season. Can’t remember what year that was now. Anyway, point is these things happen. Refs aren’t perfect and in this case, the camera wasn’t perfect either. Hopefully, Rangers won’t miss the playoffs by one point.

  11. sharksfan97 - Mar 16, 2014 at 10:38 PM

    Whatever the case, and I realize this is easy for me to say being a Sharks fan, the Rangers look A LOT better under Vigneault than Torts. Although this season my be lost, the future is looking pretty bright in Manhattan, which is good for hockey.

  12. bbk1000 - Mar 17, 2014 at 5:42 AM

    Nice job to the refs….to stop play for that long and still screw it up.

  13. patshal - Mar 17, 2014 at 6:31 AM

    Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha!
    Go Bruins!

  14. blancanieves9 - Mar 17, 2014 at 3:06 PM

    Guess what, it’s sports. This season alone, Wingels has been “robbed” of three goals, Couture robbed of one…and that’s just off the top of my head. When it happens to your team it’s a mistake unforgivable, but when it goes in your favor it’s hard to complain. Beyond that, the Rangers had 40 other shots to make a goal, and Niemi stopped every single one of them. They had every opportunity to get past the non-goal call, but they didn’t. Sometimes, that’s just how the cookie crumbles. Your entire season shouldn’t be hanging in the balance of one call, and if it is, then guess what, you just weren’t good enough this year.

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