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Report: Bruins had deal in place for Edler, but Canucks blew it

Mar 7, 2014, 9:45 AM EDT

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Vancouver Canucks GM Mike Gillis has had a rough few days and if the latest report is true, perceptions won’t be getting any better.

Fluto Shinzawa of The Boston Globe reports the Canucks had a deal set to go with the Boston Bruins on trade deadline day that would’ve sent Alex Edler to the Bruins, but there was a hangup:

They were waiting for the Canucks to deal Ryan Kesler to Pittsburgh first.

As we know, that never happened. The Penguins’ deal for Kesler was reportedly for Brandon Sutter and draft picks, but the two sides couldn’t agree. According to Shinzawa, the Bruins were set to send either Ryan Spooner or Alexander Khoklachev and Matt Bartkowski to Vancouver for Edler.

If that deal sounds familiar, it’s essentially the same package they put together to try and land Jarome Iginla last season, a deal they were beat out for by the Penguins.

As it was, Shinzawa said the Bruins got Philadelphia to eat a lot of money on the Andrej Meszaros deal because they were looking to save cap space to acquire Edler. The Flyers have to be excited they did that now.

Gillis said at the conclusion of deadline day that they entertained many offers but none met their needs. Instead, the only deal the Canucks got done was the out-of-the-blue Roberto Luongo trade to Florida that signaled they were ready to blow things up and start over.

Instead, they’ve got a (likely) grumpy Kesler and now Edler stuck on a team that looks completely deflated. A 6-1 loss to Dallas last night showed that off.

If the Canucks can’t turn things around and crash into the postseason, it sets up the NHL Draft as their next opportunity to get things done. It’s never dull in Vancouver.

  1. jpelle82 - Mar 7, 2014 at 9:50 AM

    incompetent fool. he should be holding hands with torterella in the unemployment line here pretty soon.

    • blomfeld - Mar 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM

      *** Additional Forensic Testimony Given by Comrade Blomfeld Last Year ***

      blomfeld – Sep 5, 2013 at 12:02 AM

      Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned …

      I can tell you friends that a colossal ‘storm of destruction’ is about to strike home here in Canuckle Land, one which is almost of ‘biblical’ proportions. For the fact is, every ‘possible’ thing which could go wrong is now going wrong and there will be the ‘devil to pay’ for this franchise and it’s fans, no two ways about it. So while a part of me ‘rejoices’ given the injustices which this team’s people have exacted on me in the past, another part of me still empathizes for the ‘horrific’ mayhem and carnage which these people are about to suffer …

      • blomfeld - Mar 7, 2014 at 11:23 AM

        *** And More … ***

        blomfeld – Sep 5, 2013 at 2:18 AM

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        Blomfeld: Who is this man ‘Badintent’ whose words echo the truth ?

        Ten Bears: I believe it may be one of those who we’ve listened to before ?

        Crazy Dog: Yeah whatever, but does this guy know where we can find some chicks ?

        Blomfeld: We will find women brother, however let us speak to this man in the meantime …

        ——————————————————————————————————

        As the ‘Great Storm’ approaches Canuckle Nation …

        Blood and destruction shall be so in use
        And dreadful objects so familiar
        That mothers shall but smile when they behold
        Their infants quarter’d with the hands of war;
        All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
        And Caesar’s spirit, ranging for revenge,
        With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
        Shall in these confines with a monarch’s voice
        Cry ‘Havoc,’ and let slip the dogs of war;
        That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
        With carrion men, groaning for burial.

        ps: while I’m positioned ‘forward’ here in the heart of Canuckle Land and you ‘safely’ due east in the Okanagan sector, I nonetheless implore you to take care during the coming storm and may God speed to you … comrade Blomfeld :)

    • machosasquatcho - Mar 8, 2014 at 12:23 AM

      High end content, blomfeld. Keep it up.

  2. canucks30 - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:00 AM

    That was a bad offer for a pending UFA in Iginla and it’s an even worse offer for Edler who is signed for 6 years at a reasonable cap hit.

    • elvispocomo - Mar 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM

      Both the Pens and the Bruins’ offers were terrible. No way you trade quality players under contract for scraps. That’d be like the Canucks offering Horvat and two firsts for Malkin, then asking the Bruins to trade Hamilton for Jensen and Diaz.

      • c9castine - Mar 13, 2014 at 9:59 PM

        Scraps? Haha…both offers were solid. And you just compared Keslar to Malkin. While Keslar is a good player when he wins a Cup a conn smythe a couple scoring titles and Mvps let me know.

        That was the whole problem. They were asking for way too much. They didn’t get it and aren’t going to get it at draft day either…they’ll get less.

      • elvispocomo - Mar 13, 2014 at 10:11 PM

        Bump old articles much? And while you’re at it, try and spell a player’s name right when you talk down about him while talking up marginal offers for one of the top two way forwards (and a Selke winner) in the game.

    • hosewater2 - Mar 10, 2014 at 2:05 PM

      Completely agree. Obviously the cool thing right now is to dump on Gillis, and I’m not here to defend him, but rather to simply say that he turned down two lousy trade deals. People would be laughing at him for making these deals, just as they are for not.

      This is all presuming that these press reports of the trade components are accurate, and there is no way to know. I think it is a stretch to blindly trust media outlets who report these things when they are paid for page views.

  3. nunan - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    You obviously don’t know Spooner, if that was actually a player going the other way.

  4. slaugin - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    If the Bruins not getting Edler means Pens don’t get Kessel than I am glad it didn’t work. And I don’t want Spooner in that deal

  5. salmon90 - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:06 AM

    Except for the fact that Edler has a no trade clause and basically said he wasn’t going to waive it. Other than that great reporting – Gillis blew by not caving in to Shero’s crappy deal.

    • bigtganks - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM

      Exactly. Let’s not let any facts get in the way that edler said he was never going to waive his NTC after it’d just kicked in. I don’t like gillis either but that’s like reporting the blue jackets had a deal in place for kesler and gillis blew it.

    • jpelle82 - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:23 AM

      keep holding onto hope man….but couple more games like last night and you’re going to be wishing he made these deals.

      • salmon90 - Mar 7, 2014 at 12:06 PM

        Because Sutter is a better option than Kesler? Not sure I’m following. Do you really think the Canucks would be better off accepting that deal?! Or because Edler doesn’t have a ‘no-trade clause’ (which he does). Don’t get me wrong – I’d trade Edler for a bag of pucks right now. All I’m saying is that even if a deal was there Edler said something along the lines of ‘you don’t sign a new deal to waive your no-trade clause in the first year’ (that’s not the exact quote but exact sentiments). To state that Gillis blew it is just piling on a narrative. Gillis has blown many things – this is not one of them and its lazy to report it is.

      • jpelle82 - Mar 7, 2014 at 1:54 PM

        is it better to keep a disgruntled player on your roster sucking up 5 million a year just so you might win 30 games a season? whats the point of holding onto him when you could get new, fresh talent in return, create a new vision for the future, all the while saving yourself some money and giving yourself more flexibility? sutter is 25, he just as good defensively and could probably even be an effective 2c if given the minutes. would another 1st round pick hurt? would a young d prospect picked up in the deal make it easier for you to move on from edler (or bieksa) too when the time is right? if you’re not ready to accept that the canucks are headed toward a rebuild then thats fine but you dont create a winning culture by pissing off veterans and dangling their livelihoods out there for the whole league to see. plus you’re not going to attract talent if you’re s****ing on the talent you do have.

      • elvispocomo - Mar 7, 2014 at 2:54 PM

        Who says he’s disgruntled? That’s the issue, where you believe that Kesler asked out like he was forcing a trade. Even then Kesler would have laughed at the Pens only offering Sutter and two late round picks trying to convince us to trade him. It’s not like he has a bad contract or is a bad player.

      • decaf45 - Mar 7, 2014 at 4:17 PM

        Lol. No thanks. A couple more games and the Canucks fans will be happy on drafting higher up. It’s not as if the cupboards were bare or they have no money to spend next year.

  6. terrier92 - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Bad move by Cunucks. Spooner is a good young player. Kinda glad deal did not go through. Since Pens did not get Kessler no harm no foul. Bruins will be fine. Expect to see Spooner playing for B’s in playoffs

    • drewsylvania - Mar 7, 2014 at 11:40 AM

      In place of who? I can’t see him replacing anyone in that lineup except for the 4th line. Maybe Thornton sits?

      • nunan - Mar 7, 2014 at 12:06 PM

        I don’t think he’ll replace anyone but I would like to at least see what he looks like on a line with Soderberg and Eriksson. That means potentially Soderberg moving back to wing and he’s clearly thriving as a center right now. It would also mean moving Kelly down to the 4th and sitting Thornton. I would like to see how those lines would produce. It would potentially provide more offense, with Spooner, and a more shutdown line with Kelly on the 4th. That line wouldn’t just be a 4th line but a line you could put out there against almost anyone. Fast and really strong defensively. I’d like to test that out before the postseason.

    • elvispocomo - Mar 7, 2014 at 2:58 PM

      Lots of skill from what I understand, but a little smaller player. Same with Khoklachev. The Canucks have those kind of guys already so how would that entice them to trade a D-man who just finished the Olympics with a silver medal while being paired with Karlsson (at the expense of OEL).

      If the Bruins had someone like Seguin to offer then perhaps a deal could be put together, but some ok pieces put together doesn’t get you a trade.

  7. rybo777 - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:19 AM

    Those are horrible returns on very good assets. Gillis would have been shot if he did those deals.

    • einjzmolf - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:33 AM

      Because it matters so much right now. Stick a fork in the Canucks.

      • kitshky - Mar 7, 2014 at 9:40 PM

        You’re comment is absurd.

        Vancouver *is* dead in the water, that’s not up for debate… but to suggest that means they should stop trying to get value out of their assets because of their predicament is… just flat out stupid.

    • jpelle82 - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:38 AM

      doesnt matter how good the asset is when you’re getting blown out of the building every night and the players dont want to be there anymore. two in the hand is worth more than one in the bush. its pretty clear the canucks arent making the playoffs and the rebuild should be coming on soon, why hold onto these guys when their value is high now and only going to drop as their contracts get shorter and their play on the ice becomes less than motivated? you think he gets more for kesler in a draft day deal when teams arent as desperate to upgrade? you think edler makes it through a 6 year extension with all the injuries, has he had a full season lately? shouldve dumped them while they could have

      • bigtganks - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:48 AM

        … it’s “one in hand is worth more than two in the bush”

      • jpelle82 - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:53 AM

        yeah my bad…you know what i meant

      • elvispocomo - Mar 7, 2014 at 3:02 PM

        And the “one in hand ” is Kesler and Edler while the “two in the bush” Sutter, Spooner, Bartkowski, a late round 1st and a late round 2nd.

      • elvispocomo - Mar 7, 2014 at 3:07 PM

        There is an argument that more teams could be involved since it’s easier from a cap perspective in the offseason to make deals.

        Edler played 45 of the 48 games in the lockout season, then 82 the year previous.

        Quantity does not equal quality. You don’t dump good players, you look to get good value back or keep them.

    • hockey412 - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:42 AM

      Those deals “as reported” aren’t great. That really wasn’t the entire package from Pittsburgh – there was to be a defensive prospect, just NOT the prospect that Gillis wanted. But in general he should be entertaining picks at this point. He’s sold off both goalies worth a damn, his stars are getting older and the ones that aren’t, want out.

      Other than that he’s a horrible manager of people and needs to be more proactive in arranging these deals, rather than sitting back saying “nope, doesn’t meet my needs”. Once he’s determined a player wants out, get it DONE. Look at Shero with Staal, who everyone in Pittsburgh still loves.

      • elvispocomo - Mar 7, 2014 at 3:14 PM

        The initially reported deal was Sutter, one of Despres/Domoulin, a 1st and a 3rd. They apparently ‘upgraded’ it to Sutter, a 2014 first and a 2015 2nd. Terrible – late round picks and a redundant center (since the Canucks had just picked up Matthias) for Kesler?

    • pepper2011 - Mar 7, 2014 at 11:10 AM

      Yeah, not so much. Spooner is going to be a top 6 forward. Probably top 4. A LOT Like Kesler. More speed, less physical. Better play maker. not as good defensively (yet)

      khokhlachev is a very good player. Doesn’t fit the Bruins mold per say. they seem to stay away from Russians. He will be a very good player. Top 6. He’s small, but tough, not afraid to go dirty area. Very Similar to Yakapov.

      Bartkowski- Great skater. getting better every time he is on the ice. been ‘traded’ twice now and still has good attitude. He’d be a decent 3rd or 4th Dman on most teams. GREAT passer. Great.

      If Edler wouldn’t waive his NTC to come to Boston; I don’t want him. Vancouver is his contract away from being relevant again. why would you not waive it for a chance to be a legit cup contender for next 5 years. The B’s have their core locked up. Chara is getting old, but Hamilton is 20 and will be a number 1 by the time Chara isn’t.

      Goalies – Rask, Svedberg, Subban. They are 3 deep for years to come.

      Gillis waits too long. He over values his players, and gets lesser of a return. I Know he (edler) is a good player, but he’s a -27. Even the Cup year he was even and that teams goal differential was amazing.

      If they are such good assets; why have you won 1 playoff game in what will be 3 years (including this one) ? the return for Schneider is yet to be determined. (compare Horvat to Khokhlachev) – pretty similar. You got nothing for Luongo or Hodgson.

      In fact – you haven’t had anyone come up through the system in a while, so…

  8. 950003cups - Mar 7, 2014 at 10:53 AM

    Those “almost done deals” are meaningless. I remember reading about a deal that was almost done that would’ve sent Stamkos to the blue rags in 2009. In fact the two GMs shook hands and were awaiting to formal paperwork to be drawn up and signed.

    http://nypost.com/2010/04/04/rangers-had-done-deal-for-stamkos/

  9. drewsylvania - Mar 7, 2014 at 11:19 AM

    What a dysfunctional ****ing organization.

    • salmon90 - Mar 7, 2014 at 1:02 PM

      Don’t act like your Bruins have never screwed up a trade!

      Thornton!!

      Seguin!!

      No that’s ‘blowing it’!!!

      • phillyphanatic77 - Mar 7, 2014 at 1:33 PM

        I don’t think they blew the Seguin trade at all. The kid needed to be in a system where his pure offensive skills were valued…. that wasn’t Boston. Eriksson is a really good player, when healthy. The Thornton deal is another story.

      • pete387 - Mar 7, 2014 at 1:41 PM

        Difference is, the Bruins have remained a Cup contender since 2011. Canucks have hit rock bottom in just 3 years.

      • pepper2011 - Mar 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM

        Yeah- I don’t know how you can say they blew the Seguin deal. They are actually in a better position than if they kept him. They replaced Seguin and Jagr (1goal in 44 games combined) with Eriksson, Iginla, and Smith. I bet they get more than one goal this year. They also got Morrow and Fraser. Morrow is TBD and Fraser can score. He would be on at least half the NHL rosters as a 3rd line player. He could score 15-20 in the NHL given the opportunity.

        Seguin has all the talent in the world, but you subtract two games from his playoff career and he has done nothing. 1 goal in 22 games last year. He was completely ineffective in the Bruins system. He is afraid of the corners and is physically incapable of winning battles. He is for all intents and purposes Phil Kessel.

        Thornton – Yeah they blew it, but the argument goes that they didn’t think they could win a cup with Thornton as the center piece. Thus far; they have been correct. Sell Job or not that trade opened up the money to sign Chara the following offseaon.

        100% they should have got more back than bottom 2 dman and a 3rd line winger, but they blew it up. Vancouver lit the match and then put it out. They are caught in the middle, and they need to make a move.

        Bottom line is they would be in way better shape with Hodgson and Schneider than Horvat and Kassian. They probably could have dealt Lack for a 2nd (Berra) if he backed up Schneider this year.

        Kassian was response to the B’s – they forgot about the Kings, Hawks, Blues & (now) Ducks.

        The Bruins exposed the Sedins- Since that Cup run – they went from a PPG tandem to about .75 PPG. They are clearly not a big fan of being hit and hit often. I am not saying they are bad, just soft. Like Seguin.

        Toews and Kane are not like that. Perry and Getzlaf are not like that, Carter and Kopitar are not like that.

        Kane might actually be, but he seems un-hittable while still be effective ( i have never seen anything like it).

      • salmon90 - Mar 7, 2014 at 6:05 PM

        I don’t think we need to get into a ‘Sedins are soft’ argument…that’s so 2012. Let’s focus on this article which is saying Gillis blew a chance to get a deal done.

        If you’re the type that thinks players like Kessel or Seguin are ineffective in the playoffs because they’re ‘soft’ I don’t think this is going to go far. It’s the most archaic form of hockey argument – perpetuated by the Don Cherry/Mike Milbury’s of the world. No doubt you need some physical players on your team in the playoffs but to dismiss some players as soft and others as not is way too simplistic. Have a look at some of the top playoff contributors from the last few playoff years. All of these guys finished in the top 10 at some point in the last 3 years:

        Your very own Krejci
        Kane
        Sharp
        Hossa
        Kovalchuk
        Giroux
        Parise
        Sedin x 2 (what! how could they be there!!!)
        St. Louis

        You don’t think Kessel or Seguin would ever get into this group of thugs!? Come on!
        Also you’ve allowed for some retrospection in your assessment of the Thornton trade (allowing you to sign Chara) and some predictions with regards to Smith and Eriksson being better than Seguin. I will admit Kassian has not found his game and may never but we should at least allow some time here. Same with the goaltending situation. If Lack (or Markstrom) isn’t up to it then you’re completely correct that Gillis has failed miserably. Time will tell and for now a LOT has to go right in order for this not to be a complete botch job for Gillis. Let’s wait and see.

  10. drewsylvania - Mar 7, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    To echo others, Khokhlachev and Spooner are both excellent prospects…while Edler is second-to-last IN THE WHOLE LEAGUE in +/-. Methinks certain Canucks fans evaluation of this trade idea is off-base.

    • salmon90 - Mar 7, 2014 at 12:15 PM

      Based on what?! Any Canuck fan I know would be thrilled if this trade was made.

      • bigtganks - Mar 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

        I know I would’ve but unfortunatley, Edler never would’ve waived his NTC, so it’s kind of a moot point.

    • nunan - Mar 7, 2014 at 12:59 PM

      I don’t think Spooner would have gone in a trade like this. Koko more likely paired with Bart. That’s just my opinion. Edler is good but not good enough to be shipping out your top prospect. I think Khoklachev is highly skilled and improving but I just don’t get the sense he is the type of player that will thrive in the Bs system. Who knows, I could be wrong, but given the fate of other more one dimensional players(Seguin and Kessel), I think he falls into that same category. Plus, they’ve already tried to trade him once.

  11. jovocop2112 - Mar 7, 2014 at 12:57 PM

    Title should read ‘but Gillis blew it’. The man is the anti-christ as far as Canucks fans are concerned. He should have gotten fired 2 days ago and I can only pray he gets the can at the end of the year.

  12. flyerspsu - Mar 7, 2014 at 2:07 PM

    The draft is in Philly this year, it will be interesting to see if Pitt or Philly acquire Kesler there

  13. decaf45 - Mar 7, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    Most of the Bruins fan here claims that Canucks were completely stupid not to take Spooner or Khokhlachev and Bartkowski. Just exactly who are these players that the Bruins are trying to ship out?

    Spooner:
    Spooner is a 2nd round pick that has a bit of offensive skill but has large holes in his game. Pegged as a 3rd and 4th liner on a Boston team, played 22 games but has 11 points. All assists though, which is mostly a result of his line mates scoring. Add the fact that he is 5’10”, is 42% on the face-off circle. Unless he improves, looks like his ceiling is a 3rd/4th line winger.

    Khokhlachev:
    A 2nd rounder Russian prospect with offensive instincts. Hasn’t been able to go beyond the OHL as he was struggling in the KHL. A 5’10” centre that has trouble skating backwards and lack foot speed.

    Bartkowski:
    Acquired from Florida in a trade, solid 6’1″ defensive defenceman. Finally cracked the B’s line up due to departures and injuries but have been playing well.

    Now let’s look at Alex Edler. He’s 27 and 6’4″. A gifted offensive defencemen that has scored over 30 points in 4 seasons, with 2 seasons scoring over 40 points. Has a heavy shot. Currently struggling and is a glaring minus 27 (along with most Canucks players in the minus territory). He’s in his 1st of 6 year contract with an acceptable average cap hit of $5M. Solid playoff performer in 2011 with game changing hits.

    In essence, Boston was trying to trade a 3rd liner, or an average prospect, and a 3rd pairing defensive defenceman for a 2nd pairing (1st pairing on the power play) offensive defenceman with a good cap hit and may be able to break out of a slump with a good partner. Canucks have too many great 3rd liners and has better defencemen coming up the system. None of those players meet the Canucks’ current needs. Also, not sure why the blogger would mention Iginla in this. The situation is different since Iginla will become a free agent and has no intention to resign vs Edler being signed for 5 more years. Definitely the offer doesn’t really make sense. If Boston claims Spooner and Khokhlachev is really that good, why would Boston ship them off? If Gillis had made the trade, you can be sure he’d be fired right off the spot immediately. Not to mention the fact that Edler refused to waive his no-trade clause so regardless of whether Kesler is traded or not, Edler ain’t going to Boston. Perhaps it is easier to blame Gillis for “holding” the market but if Boston was really serious about inquiring for Edler, a 1st rounder, a solid puck-moving D, and a mid/top prospect would have gotten the deal done (assuming Edler accepts). In the end, it was Boston poking around hoping for a bargain and blowing the deal.

    * On a side note, Canucks is a write-off this year but considering how much cap space they will have, and a few key pieces still on the team, things will turn around quickly and it will not be a full rebuild (like Edmonton or Calgary).

    • pepper2011 - Mar 7, 2014 at 5:16 PM

      Also- B’s don’t like Russians; they worry they will leave and often have a tendancy to be one zone players.

      100% Spooner was not in on that deal. I do not think they would trade him unless the return was unbelievable. He will be the You are right he will not be the 1 or 2 center on the Bruins for a long time. That is Bergeron and Krejci. He is insurance against Krejci wanting to get a huge pay day.

      Seguin was a 3rd line winger for the Bruins. He seems to be doing ok.

      The Bruins systems hurts offense, but they know how to play come playoff time. Krejci could lead the league in scoring or at least be up there if he wasn’t forced to play the D he does. See playoff stats when everyone plays like the B’s do.

      The Bruins use the regular season to create good playoff habits. It works for them.

    • pepper2011 - Mar 7, 2014 at 5:30 PM

      How did you come up with this garbage?

      Seriously?

      Bartkowski:
      “Acquired from Florida in a trade, solid 6’1″ defensive defenceman”

      Nope offensive d man. Great Skater; becoming better defensively and more physical. A top PP guy.

      “Khokhlachev: A 2nd rounder Russian prospect with offensive instincts. Hasn’t been able to go beyond the OHL as he was struggling in the KHL. A 5’10″ centre that has trouble skating backwards and lack foot speed”.

      Kid flies and has 37 pts in 48 games this year in the AHL.

      From Eilte prospects :An offensively talented scorer. A very good skater with great creativity. A good playmaker but an even better finisher. Has soft hands.

      Spooner:
      “Spooner is a 2nd round pick that has a bit of offensive skill but has large holes in his game. Pegged as a 3rd and 4th liner on a Boston team”

      HOCKEY NEW: Has good playmaking ability, two-way presence, leadership qualities and the versatility to play both center and wing.

      Maybe you and Gillis have the same bunk website you look at. Eyeball test usually works.

  14. pepper2011 - Mar 7, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    Alexander Khokhlachev – was pegged as mid to late first rd pick who is a point a game at 20 years old for the Providence Bruins (this year). He started real slow too.

    Ryan Spooner: Yes a second rd pick, but so were Bergeron and Krejci. just sayin.

    blowing off his assists is not a good move. Kid can play. Yes, he has struggled at faceoffs, but he will be a Top 6 forward. If he can’t improve his faceoffs (I mean we are 22 games into his NHL career). He has been a point a game player at every level. He will be a consistant 50+ pt guy in the NHL. He is not sniper, but a heck of a playmaker. Faster skater I have ever seen. He also played a lot with Matt Fraser who is now in the AHL with him. Watch the passes on the 2nd goal and the Speed and vision on the third.

    Bartkowski – is a lot more than that. Great puck moving defenseman. Most dmen don’t’ come into their own until their mid 20’s. Very few make an impact before then. He has had a hard time cracking the lineup because of how good the B’s D is. He would be the 4th or 5th on most teams. See what he did in the playoffs last year.

    This is why your team stinks and B’s will be battling for a cup again.

    A few things to think about:
    Boychuk: 2nd Rd (61st overall) pick traded by colorado for Matt hendricks
    Seidenberg: 6th round (172nd overall)
    Mcquaid: round 2 #55 overall (McQuaid was traded by the Blue Jackets to the Boston Bruins in exchange for a fifth-round pick)
    Krug: NOT DRAFTED
    CHARA: 56th overall
    Bieska (151 overall)

    It’s not where you are drafted; it’s how you play.

    Datsyuk 171st overall.

    Proof:

  15. harpdog - Mar 10, 2014 at 2:49 PM

    considering Gillis was on the Golf Course 1/2 hour before the trade deadline ended tells you how serious he was on trading either Edler or Kesler for those offers. Typical Boston reporting. If you don’t get your way you go and whine to the public that it was the fault of someone else. Step to the plate and offer some real talent for the Canucks number one defense man.

  16. harpdog - Mar 10, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    I want to add that if those players Boston offered for Edler were so good, why is this the second year in a row he has tried to trade them. You tried to screw Vancouver and now you are mad you didn’t.

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