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PHT Morning Skate: Was Meszaros enough for Boston?

Mar 6, 2014, 8:15 AM EST

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Andrej Meszaros was Boston’s one pickup at the trade deadline to help out their ailing blue line. Joe Haggerty says it’s not enough for a team looking to win the Stanley Cup. (CSNNE.com)

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Habs goalie Dustin Tokarski was a stud last night stopping 39 shots in Montreal’s shootout win. His reason for success? His lucky posts. (Montreal Gazette)

In case you were wondering, the Jets won’t be calling Alex Burmistrov back for any help with Mark Scheifele out with an injury. (Winnipeg Free Press)

The St. Louis Blues give up an average of 26.4 shots per game. That’s down eight shots from what Ryan Miller faced in Buffalo and he’ll need to get used to that lack of action. (Post-Dispatch)

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  1. pastabelly - Mar 6, 2014 at 9:16 AM

    No, Meszaros is not enough. The X Factor for the Bruins is Dougie (why doesn’t that ginger call himself Doug?) Hamilton. His maturity as an NHL player by playoff team will be the key as to whether the Bruins get back to the Finals. Neither Bartkowski nor Meszaros are probably good enough to be a top four defenseman. Hamilton will be be. The question is when.

    • titansbro - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:12 AM

      i thumbed up this comment simply because of the quote on dougie calling himself doug. no grown man should be called dougie, joey, tommy, or anything with an “ie” or “y” at the end.

      but i’m not sure that they could have or should have done more at the deadline. i trust chiarelli for the most part. in the past 3 years this team has been to 2 stanley cup finals & won 1. so i have to assume they are doing something right. it would have been great to get vanek seeing as how the habs gave up so little for him but the bruins issues are not with the forwards. and there weren’t any really good defensemen that moved yesterday. it would have been great talk to get a big name player at the deadline but we simply don’t know what they would have had to give up to do that. & there is a such thing as giving up too much.

      • pastabelly - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:35 AM

        Well, I was always okay with Bobby Orr. He could get away it.

        You can trust Chiarelli, but it’s also fair to criticize some of his moves. He’s made some good ones along with some really bad ones.

      • mgp1219 - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:36 AM

        hey titansbro,
        You mean Bobby Orr should have been called Bob? Does it really bother you that much??

        I agree with everything else you wrote, though. 100%

      • joey4id - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:54 AM

        Of course. It’s shameful to be called any of the aforementioned names. Piers Morgan, Anderson Cooper. Now those people must be credible. Why? Because they sound more credible. Right?

        John Wilkes Booth. Ted Bundy. All good names. Right? Dick Cheney. Dick. Now that one must tick you off. What other prejudices do you harbor?

        But you can’t be called Stevie Yzerman…. How about grown woman? Do you have a problem with that too? Hillary Clonton…

        Oy vey!

        Signed,

        Joseph

      • whatchutalkinabouthillis - Mar 6, 2014 at 6:04 PM

        What about Henrys? Should they go by Henr?

  2. bruinsfan55 - Mar 6, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Dougie is definitely ready for the top four in the playoffs I believe

  3. nhbsfan - Mar 6, 2014 at 9:51 AM

    I disagree with pretty much all the articles written by Haggerty. He’s a hack who thinks he knows hockey and doesn’t. I would have preferred that they got Philips, but he re-upped with Ottawa so not much they could have done there. I’m not sure which players they changed hands on the deadline could have been better? I think with the team as it stands, they are only 3 back from the Pens for the Eastern Conference lead, so subtracting too much would have been worse.

    I know Meszaros wasn’t that good for Philly lately, but at one point he was pretty good and maybe a change of scenery, and the Bruins system will give him a chance to turn things around. If not, he’s gone at the end of the season…no big loss. Also, I think the main benefit of both the new guys is to ease back on all the minutes Chara has been getting…so as long as they aren’t horrible, Chara can scale back and not be toast by the playoffs.

    Time will tell…

    • thesportsjudge - Mar 6, 2014 at 11:41 AM

      When his twitter handle is HACKSwithHaggerty(I’m not a twitter user, so I am not sure of spacing) you should know Hacks is the key part. I like his enthusiasm, but he is a moron.

    • pepper2011 - Mar 6, 2014 at 12:18 PM

      Yeah- I thought he (Haggs) was decent, but he’s really not. This is a great pick up. Not because of how good Meszaros is, but because of the potential. When the B’s landed Seidenberg he was the same age, and virtually unknown. Julien’s system along with the (possible) mentoring from Chara could turn him into the next seidenberg. If not, oh well, they lost a 3rd rd pick. IF they took a Dman with that pick he wouldn’t be NHL ready until at least 2017. Miller is built for the playoffs – I think he is being underestimated.

      The D system here works. They seem to have confidence in Warsofsky, Castro, and Morrow if needed. As it stands now Chara, Boychuk, Krug, Hamilton, Bartkowski and Miller are a decent top 6. Add Mcquaid, Meszaros and Potter and they have depth. A lot.

      They didn’t lose anything. They probably could have sold out for Johnson, but I am not sure if it’s worth it at this point. Offseason maybe, but he has NEVER had a + season. never.

      They kept Subban, they kept Spooner, they Kept Khokhlachev. They kept Eriksson. They are in good position now and still have all their assets if they feel they need to make a move in the offseason.

      Everyone seems to be forgetting they have been in the Cup finals 2/3 years. Seidenberg hurts no doubt, but they have depth. I’m betting Smith, Soderberg, Iginla and Eriksson will be able to produce more than the ONE goal Jagr and Seguin were able to pitch in on 38 playoff games last year.

  4. grocerystick101 - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:17 AM

    I think Meszaros was actually the best and most obvious option for the B’s considering the price. All it cost was a 3rd round pick and they got a guy who has played with Chara both internationally and with the Sens. He’s probably not a top four D-man on his own but they got a guy who can play effective minutes as a compliment to Chara guaranteed.

    • govtminion - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:30 AM

      Completely agree. While there were other defensemen out there, this was a guy who gives them the toughness and grit they wanted, but without forcing them to give up important assets the way they would have had to for someone like Bieksa. Overall, I think Chiarelli did pretty good here- a mid-round pick for a decent defenseman for a playoff run is fine by me.

      Not everyone agrees, of course. One commenter on another site was furious that Chiarelli didn’t trade McQuaid and a fourth round pick to the Preds for Shea Weber- I had to close my browser laughing at that one.

      • flyboystransport - Mar 6, 2014 at 12:14 PM

        Messzaros is no better than a 5th dman. He had one good season with the flyers as a #5. May benefit with bostons d first system.

    • matthewmacisaac - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:22 PM

      As a Flyers fan, I think the Bruins stole him. Philly wasn’t using himfull time because he’s had injury issues, but he is skilled and has a knack for timely goals. I, personally would have rather seen the Flyers take a chance by trading Timonen, who has slowed to the point of making me wonder if he isn’t already retired. Timonen was a great player at one time but that time has passed. If they had traded Timonen,his reputation would have brought more in return, they could have plugged Meszaros into his role and at this point in their careers it would have been an upgrade. Good luck to Mez.

  5. nunan - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:26 AM

    All these ‘experts’ just take the fan approach of over reacting in the moment. They say things like “look at the price for Vanek…the Bs could have easily swing that”. It’s so simple to them. The idea of having to require moving a current roster player in order to make room for Vanek’s cap hit means nothing to them. It’s all just funny money. The idea of team chemistry means nothing either. Forget the fact that the Bs are already in a battle for the top spot in the east, forget that they’re in first in the division with games in hand….none of that matters bc these super-sensitive, over-reactive fans and media members only care about the past 24 hours. Truth is, it’s PC’s ability to NOT make certain moves that has helped create this run the Bs have been on. They’re in the conversation every year and they clearly have that next gear they kick into when the time comes, which most teams can’t say. I would have like Phillips but beyond that, nothing else made sense. Meszaros is depth and a big body…I’m fine with it. People also forget, PC made his big move last summer by trading freaking Tyler Seguin for Eriksson and Reilly (nm the other prospects) and bringing in Iggy. Eriksson hasn’t come close to what he is capable of. New team, and multiple concussions, etc. The guy was a regular 65-70 pt guy. He will come around and he has a bit, IMO.

    • pepper2011 - Mar 6, 2014 at 4:13 PM

      Agree 100%. I am glad the Eriksson rumors were not true. Give him time. He had to get used to a new system, and when he finally did and began to look comfortable he got a concussion. He seemed to be just about back to where he was and he got another. If he can stay healthy that line is nasty. I also think they should bring Spooner or Khokhlachev (preferably Spooner) up for the playoffs and slide Kelly down to the fourth line. I love Thornton, but he doesn’t get a ton of ice time in the playoffs and he is (in my opinion) much more useful coming off the bench(scratched) as a energy boost if they start off slow. Eriksson, Soderberg Spooner is a very talented 3rd line and Paille, Campbell, Kelly would the best fourth line in hockey.

      • nunan - Mar 6, 2014 at 4:24 PM

        I have thought about that, too. For some reason, I love the idea of Kelly and Paille together. I think their similar in skill level and speed. And they’re great defensively. That line would get more ice time, I would think, and it would ease pressure on the other lines. I also think Spooner is ready and if he’s paired with two other skilled players, he’ll excel. Having three effective offensive lines will be a big boost. It’s something they haven’t had for a few years and is especially important given the injuries on defense.

      • pepper2011 - Mar 6, 2014 at 5:06 PM

        Plus – their D is going to be real tough to play against. Chara, Miller, Boychuk, Mcquaid, Meszaros,& Hamilton are all really physical.

        I think Krug and Bartkowski will be sitting a lot in the playoffs – it’s tough to sit that kind of offensive talent/awareness but Hamilton and Meszaros are more than adequate. I’m sure it will depend on matchups but Sid and co aren’t going to like going into the corners with the first six I mentioned.

        Miller will make a name for himself in the next 3+ months; much better skater than I thought and an absolute beast physically. reminds me of Douglas murray but 40lbs lighter (with as much strength)

    • jbink2585 - Mar 6, 2014 at 5:21 PM

      Mez is bigger body as hes been hurt often his physical play has diminished to being borderline extinct

  6. joey4id - Mar 6, 2014 at 10:59 AM

    These types of acquisitions to fill a roster spot left vacant due to an injury is hardly ever sufficient. You really don’t replace Datsyuk with Legwang. You can add a more experienced player to fill the gap, but you rely on that and other players to pick up the slack. These are stop gap measures which provide a service for the short term, and can add value when the injured players return to action.

  7. nunan - Mar 6, 2014 at 4:05 PM

    The trade deadline and all the Bs defense talk just reminds me how great Seidenberg is. He quietly goes about being a tough, shut down guy who defends the front of the net real well. Last year, we didn’t get to see him at full strength in the playoffs bc of the injury. We’ll miss him in the playoffs entirely this year. It’s too bad bc he really steps up in the spring. Starts throwing his weight around a lot. Him lining up Ovechkin in game 1 or 2 a few years ago comes to mind. The guy is fun to watch in the playoffs. Never know when he’s going to step up.

  8. jbink2585 - Mar 6, 2014 at 5:18 PM

    As Flyers fan, it all depends what Mez shows up, when healthy hes a 4 B type of d man but solid and can help any team, problem hes off injured and has been disaster in his own end. As of late he has been solid so I think it was solid Addition, he however is no Seidenberg, so as long as your expectations are not the ceiling then he should be fine and contribute.

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